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Rampager
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia1007 Posts
June 29 2011 01:04 GMT
#1001
On June 29 2011 09:57 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 09:57 Arishok wrote:
So in the end, SOTG with its 10-15k viewers gets heavily damaged, ITG with its 4-6k takes 1/2 the speakers to a new show with a completely different style......

All because of sponsor issues?......

They essentially killed the most popular podcast in SC2



Ya, ITG draws way less people than SOTG ever did.


SotG didn't draw the huge numbers it did now for the first 10-20 episodes. ITG is doing pretty good considering.
pieman819
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia457 Posts
June 29 2011 01:04 GMT
#1002
On June 29 2011 09:55 Mauldo wrote:
I would like to say a few things:

1) THANK YOU for asking the community to stop with the "ESPORTS is going to die if you do (blank)" talk. It gets so annoying when people say that Destiny breaking a contract is going to kill esports. I've been saying it for a while when I couldn't handle the sheer ineptitude shown by people in the past, but finally you and incontrol have told a good 3500 people to please stop. That might make a dent in things.

2) I'm really glad you brought Alex on to talk about incontrol leaving State of the Game. The way he explained it makes a lot of sense. SOTG presented a situation where there would be direct conflict of interest with sponsors, you moved Incontrol to another show that didn't conflict (which you just happened to have to make), and that's basically it. No one left on bad terms, and Alex is reinforced that idea today. I'm glad for that.

As far as "They're so competing, it's on Tuesday," SOTG is on at what, 10:00pm? I think the timeblocks could go ITG to SOTG with maybe an hour and a half of a break between or so. And that's assuming that JP isn't moving it, which is speculation until JP says anything about it. I'd think that JP will move it to prevent any kind of viewer loss, and if he doesn't, I don't think there will be much of a loss at all.

Overall, thank you so much for this episode. Hopefully people will listen and understand. They probably won't, but here's to hoping.

Weren't iNcontroll and DJWheat two of themost vocal "don't rant about how shitty MLG Dallas was because it hurts Esports" guys?
Hi
dano101
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada92 Posts
June 29 2011 01:04 GMT
#1003
Guys, EG is a CORPORATION, they don't owe us shit and will try to maximize their profits and their image. Their goal is to make money through sponsorships etc, and if there is a conflict of interest with another corporation, they will not associate themselves with that "product". I do find it interesting that Mr. Garfield is actually on the show discussing it, but in my opinion it would have been better if he didn't come on at all. Kinda feel worse about the situation than I did before.
If it bleeds, we can kill it.
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
June 29 2011 01:05 GMT
#1004
Can we please go back to talking about starcraft?
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
June 29 2011 01:05 GMT
#1005
anywho, it's too laggy to listen to right now, I got the jist of what I was looking for.
Blitz Beat
Profile Joined May 2011
United States178 Posts
June 29 2011 01:05 GMT
#1006
Didn't know about it until Alex mentioned it but... Basically all the shows (or most of the shows) on OneMoreGame are sponsored by and created by EG? If so, this kind of clarifies the perspective the shows are going to take. ~_~
Defrath
Profile Joined February 2011
United States30 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-29 01:06:32
June 29 2011 01:05 GMT
#1007
On June 29 2011 10:01 Nimic wrote:
I like iNcontroL, but at some point the straw-man arguments need to end. He always feels the need to exaggerate the negative things/comments, or at least focus on them. Most of us aren't trying to troll you at all times. Some of us have more or less legitimate concerns. Ignore the people using ridiculous hyperbole or name-calling, insults, etc.

I have a weird feeling about EG. I like iNcontroL, most of the time (or rather most of the time I love him). I also like SirScoots, particularly after the interview at... Columbus? People like Machine and Axslav, I don't mind them at all. I do sort of dislike Idra, but I think most of the SC2 fanbase "sort of" dislikes Idra. But despite all of this, I don't like EG as an organization. I'm not sure it makes sense.

Wait, you don't like an organization because they lead a player in a direction that best suited his interests? The fact that EG allowed this to be talked about in Geoffs defense on a podcast says a lot about them as an organization. Yes, it is unfortunate that he isn't on SotG anymore (he was my favorite pillar), but jesus christ, be realistic.

EDIT: And not only that, but it is clearly not entirely EG at "fault", if you'd want to call it that.
What is the color of the night?
Renoir_scII
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada112 Posts
June 29 2011 01:05 GMT
#1008
This lag is so bad. I'm getting around 5 seconds of audio every 30 seconds or so.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
June 29 2011 01:05 GMT
#1009
On June 29 2011 09:55 zyzski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 09:52 krews wrote:
On June 29 2011 09:48 zyzski wrote:
alex garfield is still one of the smartest people in esports, dude has been killin it for years


guess you dont know about promod

one project that didn't work doesn't discredit everything he's done throughout the years.
he built the best esports org in the world from the ground up and he's only 26.


I wished that the mod worked out since it would have been cool to see CS 1.6 w/ CSS graphics. The thing about CS ProMod is that the CS community had very high hopes. There was the whole controversy how the project team welcomed donations and there was little to no update on the project for months. Because of that the community thought it was nothing but a scam and they offered only screenshots of the CS map remakes. Besides that, they hired some pretty big named people like the guy who made/worked on CPMA and people believed that the mod will come out to be great. Then there was the whole failed hype when the first patch came out and the mod felt like shit to the majority of the community.
Shirolol
Profile Joined April 2010
England504 Posts
June 29 2011 01:06 GMT
#1010
Lag is making it completely unwatchable for me, black screen for 30 seconds then 1 second of audio.. Then back to blackness. :\
Korean Netizen wrote: My ears died from the static and the music and my eyes died from the depressing gameplay and bad observer.
RoyalCheese
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic745 Posts
June 29 2011 01:06 GMT
#1011
On June 29 2011 10:05 Blitz Beat wrote:
Didn't know about it until Alex mentioned it but... Basically all the shows (or most of the shows) on OneMoreGame are sponsored by and created by EG? If so, this kind of clarifies the perspective the shows are going to take. ~_~


They are sponsored by steel series.
Kennigit: "Chill was once able to retire really young, but decided to donate his entire salary TO SUPPORT ESPORTS"
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
June 29 2011 01:06 GMT
#1012
Didn't take Inside the Game long to turn into Sotg 2.0. Didn't Sotg also start as a "strat" show and evolved into a gossip/drama one? Either way they are both in the same spot now.

If they were serious about making this a sc2 show about strats I don't see why they feel it is necessary to even respond to the people attacking them. They did what they did because they could, not because they cared what anybody else (even JP) thought. Fine. It's over. Move on everyone.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
June 29 2011 01:07 GMT
#1013
On June 29 2011 10:06 Shirolol wrote:
Lag is making it completely unwatchable for me, black screen for 30 seconds then 1 second of audio.. Then back to blackness. :\


me to T_T.
When I think of something else, something will go here
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
June 29 2011 01:07 GMT
#1014
Too bad, this show sounded interesting, but I can't listen to it because it keeps freezing. Is this a problem on my end?
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
June 29 2011 01:08 GMT
#1015
On June 29 2011 10:05 Defrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 10:01 Nimic wrote:
I like iNcontroL, but at some point the straw-man arguments need to end. He always feels the need to exaggerate the negative things/comments, or at least focus on them. Most of us aren't trying to troll you at all times. Some of us have more or less legitimate concerns. Ignore the people using ridiculous hyperbole or name-calling, insults, etc.

I have a weird feeling about EG. I like iNcontroL, most of the time (or rather most of the time I love him). I also like SirScoots, particularly after the interview at... Columbus? People like Machine and Axslav, I don't mind them at all. I do sort of dislike Idra, but I think most of the SC2 fanbase "sort of" dislikes Idra. But despite all of this, I don't like EG as an organization. I'm not sure it makes sense.

Wait, you don't like an organization because they lead a player in a direction that best suited his interests? The fact that EG allowed this to be talked about in Geoffs defense on a podcast says a lot about them as an organization. Yes, it is unfortunate that he isn't on SotG anymore (he was my favorite pillar), but jesus christ, be realistic.


It's not just this. Oh, it's partly this. Not mainly because of the fact that iNcontroL jumped ship, but more over how the whole thing was handled. But come on, let's be honest here. There's been a few more of these over the past few months.

Mainly, I think EG have a PR issue. Which is very ironic, considering they have iNcontroL on the team, and also SirScoots who seems to have a way with words.
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
June 29 2011 01:08 GMT
#1016
Oh well, I guess I'll need to watch this episode in the archive.
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
June 29 2011 01:08 GMT
#1017
On June 29 2011 10:07 -_- wrote:
Too bad, this show sounded interesting, but I can't listen to it because it keeps freezing. Is this a problem on my end?


It's not. It's not even a problem on your end of the world. Unwatchable here too :\
Domination
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1177 Posts
June 29 2011 01:08 GMT
#1018
This is hilarious. Picking the most absurd arguments instead of addressing the more reasonable complaints. Most people don't care about Incontrol leaving or SotG or anything like that. It's about people asking "so is it about EG sponsorship issues?" and sirscoots and djwheat going "LOL NO YOU GUYS ARE STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORISTS" and then it turns out to be complete horse caca.
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-29 14:09:09
June 29 2011 01:09 GMT
#1019
Nevermind
With no power comes no responsibility?
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
June 29 2011 01:09 GMT
#1020
Yeah, JTV isn't so great right now since it cuts off and on.
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