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On June 16 2011 05:07 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 05:03 Malinor wrote:On June 16 2011 04:55 Blasphemi wrote:On June 16 2011 03:55 Drteeth wrote:On June 16 2011 03:10 Blasphemi wrote:On June 16 2011 03:05 Scythias wrote:On June 16 2011 02:59 Mackus wrote:What makes TB great and why a lot of people enjoy his stuff, is because he doesn't pander, that's what a lot of interacting usually is, he twitters facebooks even posts on this forums how is that not enough? Yes, and he's usually rude every time to people who asks questions or gives opinions. A quick scroll down to his history of tweets would justify my claim. Not saying the claim isn't justified i'm saying that's the appeal. Going by how many people like TB and watch his vids i'd say it's working out pretty well for him. I think quite a lot of people watch him for the amusement of him not understanding the game, missing drops etc.. 20k people tuned in on Sunday to look for missed drops .... REALLY?? And 450k people watched MLG. Clearly the number of people who want to see top players commentated by people who understand the game is much higher than people who want to see good players commentated by Total Biscuit applying radio commentary to something you can see with your eyes. Did you just compare a 3day, biggest SC2 live event in North America, with players from all over the world, $14000 prize money and best caster lineup in the world, to a one-day €1000 8player euro-only invitational, just to say that Totalbiscuit is bad? I hope I am missing the sarcasm here (in that case I apologize). 20000 viewers for such a small tournament is an amazing feat, and I did not think that TB would have that big of a following. He doesn't have that big a following. Total Biscuit streaming his own games is like 2k people. Those 20k are fans of Thorzain, Morrow, White Ra, Nerchio, Kas etc...
So why don't you invite those 8, cough up a couple of thousand dollars and reap the benefits of /commercial with 20 000 viewers? Because you wouldn't, because no one knows who you are, and no one cares who you are.
The difference between some kind of schmuck like you and TotalBiscuit is that he does have a big following, and you're just a nobody.
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On June 16 2011 05:02 Nerdslayer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 04:57 Blasphemi wrote:On June 16 2011 04:55 chickenhawk wrote:It was a small Sc2 tournament with a handful of European players, how is that a fantastic day for E-Sports? It's not even a fantastic day for Starcraft 2, nevermind the millions of e-sports fans who couldn't give a damn about Starcraft. Because it proved that a small tournament with just a small cash prize, 1500 is nothing comparing to GSL or any other sport, can have a 15+ viewer count. It didn't prove that at all, everyone knew that for a while. For a comparison he had about the same vieiwers as Idra does on his low quality stream with him saying nothing. Really Blasphemy everyone knew it? Wow, im glad we got you here on these wonderfull forum to presume how many knew about this tournament. I didnt knew about it but I did tune in to see it. And idra dont do 20k wievers in his stream once again I ask you to stop spawning shit and provide some goddam facts.
Total Biscuits stream: http://www.justin.tv/totalbiscuit
Idra's stream: http://www.justin.tv/eg_idra
Notice Idra has more views. This is despite the fact that Idra has only ever streamed his grainy ladder games almost always with his voice muted and he frequently goes weeks at a time without streaming.
Total Biscuit streams almost every day and streams his tournaments and probably some WoW and other games in the same place and still he has less views than Idra.
Total Biscuit has his followers obviously, but to say he is extremely popular within the Sc2 community is flat out not true.
http://www.justin.tv/liquidhuk
http://www.justin.tv/incontroltv
Apparently people would also rather watch muted streams of Huk and InControl that tournaments and streams of total biscuit.
Idra often has 20k viewers if he streams at peak times.
User was temp banned for this post.
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Wheat mentioned visa trouble as a reason for some of the Koreans not being able to participate the upcoming DH. South Korean citizens actually don't need a visa for the Schengen countries, so I don't get where his information is coming from o_O?
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On June 16 2011 04:49 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 04:29 Drteeth wrote:On June 16 2011 04:19 zev318 wrote:On June 16 2011 03:55 Drteeth wrote:On June 16 2011 03:10 Blasphemi wrote:On June 16 2011 03:05 Scythias wrote:On June 16 2011 02:59 Mackus wrote:What makes TB great and why a lot of people enjoy his stuff, is because he doesn't pander, that's what a lot of interacting usually is, he twitters facebooks even posts on this forums how is that not enough? Yes, and he's usually rude every time to people who asks questions or gives opinions. A quick scroll down to his history of tweets would justify my claim. Not saying the claim isn't justified i'm saying that's the appeal. Going by how many people like TB and watch his vids i'd say it's working out pretty well for him. I think quite a lot of people watch him for the amusement of him not understanding the game, missing drops etc.. 20k people tuned in on Sunday to look for missed drops .... REALLY?? u make it sound like 20k viewers tuned in only because TB was casting or something and the quality of players had nothing to do with it. those were pretty good 8 players and it wouldnt surprise me if people turned in even if they disliked TB's casting. some people could have just muted it. That wasn't what I was saying at all. Sunday was a fantastic day for esports and I'm glad I was a part of it. It was a small Sc2 tournament with a handful of European players, how is that a fantastic day for E-Sports? It's not even a fantastic day for Starcraft 2, nevermind the millions of e-sports fans who couldn't give a damn about Starcraft.
When someone put their own money in and organised a very well run and very well organised tourny with some great players and games I would say its a great day wouldn't you?
And they call TB the cynical brit ....
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So if someone thinks Idra is a top level foreigner then they are a fanboy? That doesn't make a lot of sense man. Idra has consistently shown good results in the IPL, MLG, EGMC, NASL, GSL and many other showmatches and tourneys.
Anyone with half a brain can tell you he's among the very best.
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On June 16 2011 05:13 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 05:02 Nerdslayer wrote:On June 16 2011 04:57 Blasphemi wrote:On June 16 2011 04:55 chickenhawk wrote:It was a small Sc2 tournament with a handful of European players, how is that a fantastic day for E-Sports? It's not even a fantastic day for Starcraft 2, nevermind the millions of e-sports fans who couldn't give a damn about Starcraft. Because it proved that a small tournament with just a small cash prize, 1500 is nothing comparing to GSL or any other sport, can have a 15+ viewer count. It didn't prove that at all, everyone knew that for a while. For a comparison he had about the same vieiwers as Idra does on his low quality stream with him saying nothing. Really Blasphemy everyone knew it? Wow, im glad we got you here on these wonderfull forum to presume how many knew about this tournament. I didnt knew about it but I did tune in to see it. And idra dont do 20k wievers in his stream once again I ask you to stop spawning shit and provide some goddam facts. Total Biscuits stream: http://www.justin.tv/totalbiscuitIdra's stream: http://www.justin.tv/eg_idraNotice Idra has more views. This is despite the fact that Idra has only ever streamed his grainy ladder games almost always with his voice muted and he frequently goes weeks at a time without streaming. Total Biscuit streams almost every day and streams his tournaments and probably some WoW and other games in the same place and still he has less views than Idra. Total Biscuit has his followers obviously, but to say he is extremely popular within the Sc2 community is flat out not true. http://www.justin.tv/liquidhukhttp://www.justin.tv/incontroltvApparently people would also rather watch muted streams of Huk and InControl that tournaments and streams of total biscuit. Idra often has 20k viewers if he streams at peak times.
Did you just compare viewership between the ladder games of a top Grand Master player, often considered the best foreign player in the world and a midlevel platinum player? I don't even know to begin with a statement as asinine as the one you just made.
People watch IdrA's stream because they know he's a good player. Most top level Grand Master don't even break 1000 live viewers, yet TotalBiscuit streams with 2-4k often, and he's in platinum.
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Arguing with Idra´s cult minions is like pissing into the wind
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On June 16 2011 05:10 Nerdslayer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 05:02 Blasphemi wrote:On June 16 2011 04:05 Nerdslayer wrote:
I cant belive Stateofthegame aka Djwheat is putting up with Idra he is bashing and hating on every from cruncher to huk to mc to TB.
Idra is an ambassador for the sc2 Esport scene what an embarrasment.
I don't particularly like Idra as a character within the SC community but he is one of the best Brood War and Sc2 foreigners of all time and a mainstay of the community for years, to compare him to a guy like Total Biscuit is just mind blowing. Mr Idra fanboy you are delusional he is not one of the best sc2 foreigners he is howver one of the most hyped sc2 foreigners. Why do you keep spawning crap when you got no actually facts to back it up? What has Idra won recently beside an IGN season one with alot of medicore NA. Watch Dreamhack, I woulnt be supriced if Idra cant make it out of his group. But enough of Idra´s skilllevel thats not the argument. And I dont compare Idra to total biscuit one is a player and one is a caster and atleast the player could give some compliments to the casters that have showcased them to the world. TB,husky,HD etc. Becuase without those casters and many others Idra would be playing in his mom´s basement. He should feel very privileged he is in this position he is today and atleats he could give some courtesy to the members of the community that has made sc2 esport what it is today I will take TB over Idra any day of the week. TB provides new fans to this sport all Idra does is promote BM. I know that is hard to understand for the Idra cult and his minions
This is just way too bad/dumb a post to bother responding to fully.
Idra was a professional Starcraft player before Total Biscuit had even played the game, he spent 2 years on professional Korean team. He most definitely does not need HD/Husky or Total Biscuit in order to make a living from this game. He is without doubt one of the most successful Sc2 foreigners alongside Jinro and Huk.
Idra should learn some manners and respect, but for guys like Boxer and his fellow competitors, he is bang on about Total Biscuit.
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On June 16 2011 05:13 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 05:02 Nerdslayer wrote:On June 16 2011 04:57 Blasphemi wrote:On June 16 2011 04:55 chickenhawk wrote:It was a small Sc2 tournament with a handful of European players, how is that a fantastic day for E-Sports? It's not even a fantastic day for Starcraft 2, nevermind the millions of e-sports fans who couldn't give a damn about Starcraft. Because it proved that a small tournament with just a small cash prize, 1500 is nothing comparing to GSL or any other sport, can have a 15+ viewer count. It didn't prove that at all, everyone knew that for a while. For a comparison he had about the same vieiwers as Idra does on his low quality stream with him saying nothing. Really Blasphemy everyone knew it? Wow, im glad we got you here on these wonderfull forum to presume how many knew about this tournament. I didnt knew about it but I did tune in to see it. And idra dont do 20k wievers in his stream once again I ask you to stop spawning shit and provide some goddam facts. Total Biscuits stream: http://www.justin.tv/totalbiscuitIdra's stream: http://www.justin.tv/eg_idraNotice Idra has more views. This is despite the fact that Idra has only ever streamed his grainy ladder games almost always with his voice muted and he frequently goes weeks at a time without streaming. Total Biscuit streams almost every day and streams his tournaments and probably some WoW and other games in the same place and still he has less views than Idra. Total Biscuit has his followers obviously, but to say he is extremely popular within the Sc2 community is flat out not true. http://www.justin.tv/liquidhukhttp://www.justin.tv/incontroltvApparently people would also rather watch muted streams of Huk and InControl that tournaments and streams of total biscuit. Idra often has 20k viewers if he streams at peak times.
So TB isn't far after three of the biggest names on teamliquid? damn, thats actually way better than I thought.
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On June 16 2011 05:17 SolHeiM wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 05:13 Blasphemi wrote:On June 16 2011 05:02 Nerdslayer wrote:On June 16 2011 04:57 Blasphemi wrote:On June 16 2011 04:55 chickenhawk wrote:It was a small Sc2 tournament with a handful of European players, how is that a fantastic day for E-Sports? It's not even a fantastic day for Starcraft 2, nevermind the millions of e-sports fans who couldn't give a damn about Starcraft. Because it proved that a small tournament with just a small cash prize, 1500 is nothing comparing to GSL or any other sport, can have a 15+ viewer count. It didn't prove that at all, everyone knew that for a while. For a comparison he had about the same vieiwers as Idra does on his low quality stream with him saying nothing. Really Blasphemy everyone knew it? Wow, im glad we got you here on these wonderfull forum to presume how many knew about this tournament. I didnt knew about it but I did tune in to see it. And idra dont do 20k wievers in his stream once again I ask you to stop spawning shit and provide some goddam facts. Total Biscuits stream: http://www.justin.tv/totalbiscuitIdra's stream: http://www.justin.tv/eg_idraNotice Idra has more views. This is despite the fact that Idra has only ever streamed his grainy ladder games almost always with his voice muted and he frequently goes weeks at a time without streaming. Total Biscuit streams almost every day and streams his tournaments and probably some WoW and other games in the same place and still he has less views than Idra. Total Biscuit has his followers obviously, but to say he is extremely popular within the Sc2 community is flat out not true. http://www.justin.tv/liquidhukhttp://www.justin.tv/incontroltvApparently people would also rather watch muted streams of Huk and InControl that tournaments and streams of total biscuit. Idra often has 20k viewers if he streams at peak times. Did you just compare viewership between the ladder games of a top Grand Master player, often considered the best foreign player in the world and a midlevel platinum player? I don't even know to begin with a statement as asinine as the one you just made. People watch IdrA's stream because they know he's a good player. Most top level Grand Master don't even break 1000 live viewers, yet TotalBiscuit streams with 2-4k often, and he's in platinum.
People don't watch TB for his Starcraft, they watch him for his personality, and clearly his personality is 10 times less attractive to the community than watching a good player play in silence. Which demonstrates where the priorities of the majority of the community lie.
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Notice Idra has more views. This is despite the fact that Idra has only ever streamed his grainy ladder games almost always with his voice muted and he frequently goes weeks at a time without streaming.
Total Biscuit streams almost every day and streams his tournaments and probably some WoW and other games in the same place and still he has less views than Idra.
Total Biscuit has his followers obviously, but to say he is extremely popular within the Sc2 community is flat out not true.
And yet he gives everything back to the community!!! Every dollar he made on commercials were to the players, I dare Idra to do that.
Also TB channel only has a couple of months!!! And it has already 3 million views! And more followers than Huk and Incontrol. And he only playes gold league starcraft in it.
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Mr Idra fanboy you are delusional he is not one of the best sc2 foreigners he is howver one of the most hyped sc2 foreigners. Why do you keep spawning crap when you got no actually facts to back it up?
El. Oh. Freaking. El. Where are YOUR facts to back up this statement?
I will take TB over Idra any day of the week. TB provides new fans to this sport all Idra does is promote BM.
Go back and read the post that got TB banned and then come back here and talk about BM. That post is appallingly typical for TB. It was somewhat more vulgar than I've seen from him before but he regularly lashes out like that at people who dare to disagree with him, regardless of how civilly they do it. I've personally been told by TB on Facebook to go fuck myself because I respectfully disagreed with something he said in his review of Rift.
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On June 16 2011 05:19 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 05:10 Nerdslayer wrote:On June 16 2011 05:02 Blasphemi wrote:On June 16 2011 04:05 Nerdslayer wrote:
I cant belive Stateofthegame aka Djwheat is putting up with Idra he is bashing and hating on every from cruncher to huk to mc to TB.
Idra is an ambassador for the sc2 Esport scene what an embarrasment.
I don't particularly like Idra as a character within the SC community but he is one of the best Brood War and Sc2 foreigners of all time and a mainstay of the community for years, to compare him to a guy like Total Biscuit is just mind blowing. Mr Idra fanboy you are delusional he is not one of the best sc2 foreigners he is howver one of the most hyped sc2 foreigners. Why do you keep spawning crap when you got no actually facts to back it up? What has Idra won recently beside an IGN season one with alot of medicore NA. Watch Dreamhack, I woulnt be supriced if Idra cant make it out of his group. But enough of Idra´s skilllevel thats not the argument. And I dont compare Idra to total biscuit one is a player and one is a caster and atleast the player could give some compliments to the casters that have showcased them to the world. TB,husky,HD etc. Becuase without those casters and many others Idra would be playing in his mom´s basement. He should feel very privileged he is in this position he is today and atleats he could give some courtesy to the members of the community that has made sc2 esport what it is today I will take TB over Idra any day of the week. TB provides new fans to this sport all Idra does is promote BM. I know that is hard to understand for the Idra cult and his minions This is just way too bad/dumb a post to bother responding to fully. Idra was a professional Starcraft player before Total Biscuit had even played the game, he spent 2 years on professional Korean team. He most definitely does not need HD/Husky or Total Biscuit in order to make a living from this game. He is without doubt one of the most successful Sc2 foreigners alongside Jinro and Huk. Idra should learn some manners and respect, but for guys like Boxer and his fellow competitors, he is bang on about Total Biscuit.
Are you telling me Idra had 20k viewers on his stream when he was playing bw?
His popularity has skyrockted since sc2 launch. Stop being stupide. The sc2 community has made Idra what he is today and atleast he could say thx you instead of insulting casters like TB
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On June 16 2011 05:23 piegasm wrote:Show nested quote +Mr Idra fanboy you are delusional he is not one of the best sc2 foreigners he is howver one of the most hyped sc2 foreigners. Why do you keep spawning crap when you got no actually facts to back it up? El. Oh. Freaking. El. Where are YOUR facts to back up this statement? Show nested quote +I will take TB over Idra any day of the week. TB provides new fans to this sport all Idra does is promote BM. Go back and read the post that got TB banned and then come back here and talk about BM. That post is appallingly typical for TB. It was somewhat more vulgar than I've seen from him before but he regularly lashes out like that at people who dare to disagree with him, regardless of how civilly they do it. I've personally been told by TB on Facebook to go fuck myself because I respectfully disagreed with something he said in his review of Rift.
hmm beside he havent actually won anything the last 6monhs beside IGN season 1 with medicore americans
You know good players win tournaments or didnt you get that memo?
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On June 16 2011 05:23 Nerdslayer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 05:19 Blasphemi wrote:On June 16 2011 05:10 Nerdslayer wrote:On June 16 2011 05:02 Blasphemi wrote:On June 16 2011 04:05 Nerdslayer wrote:
I cant belive Stateofthegame aka Djwheat is putting up with Idra he is bashing and hating on every from cruncher to huk to mc to TB.
Idra is an ambassador for the sc2 Esport scene what an embarrasment.
I don't particularly like Idra as a character within the SC community but he is one of the best Brood War and Sc2 foreigners of all time and a mainstay of the community for years, to compare him to a guy like Total Biscuit is just mind blowing. Mr Idra fanboy you are delusional he is not one of the best sc2 foreigners he is howver one of the most hyped sc2 foreigners. Why do you keep spawning crap when you got no actually facts to back it up? What has Idra won recently beside an IGN season one with alot of medicore NA. Watch Dreamhack, I woulnt be supriced if Idra cant make it out of his group. But enough of Idra´s skilllevel thats not the argument. And I dont compare Idra to total biscuit one is a player and one is a caster and atleast the player could give some compliments to the casters that have showcased them to the world. TB,husky,HD etc. Becuase without those casters and many others Idra would be playing in his mom´s basement. He should feel very privileged he is in this position he is today and atleats he could give some courtesy to the members of the community that has made sc2 esport what it is today I will take TB over Idra any day of the week. TB provides new fans to this sport all Idra does is promote BM. I know that is hard to understand for the Idra cult and his minions This is just way too bad/dumb a post to bother responding to fully. Idra was a professional Starcraft player before Total Biscuit had even played the game, he spent 2 years on professional Korean team. He most definitely does not need HD/Husky or Total Biscuit in order to make a living from this game. He is without doubt one of the most successful Sc2 foreigners alongside Jinro and Huk. Idra should learn some manners and respect, but for guys like Boxer and his fellow competitors, he is bang on about Total Biscuit. Are you telling me Idra had 20k viewers on his stream when he was playing bw? His popularity has skyrockted since sc2 launch. Stop being stupide. The sc2 community has made Idra what he is today and atleast he could say thx you instead of insulting casters like TB
Perhaps Total Biscuit should respect the community of the game he's currently making money from. He should at least respect us enough to understand the game itself. He was streaming during MLG, that is just absurd. How can anyone who claims to love the game stream during MLG? This is a massive tournament, with the best players in the world and he'd rather ladder?
Would a football commentator miss out on the World Cup final?
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On June 16 2011 05:26 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 05:23 Nerdslayer wrote:On June 16 2011 05:19 Blasphemi wrote:On June 16 2011 05:10 Nerdslayer wrote:On June 16 2011 05:02 Blasphemi wrote:On June 16 2011 04:05 Nerdslayer wrote:
I cant belive Stateofthegame aka Djwheat is putting up with Idra he is bashing and hating on every from cruncher to huk to mc to TB.
Idra is an ambassador for the sc2 Esport scene what an embarrasment.
I don't particularly like Idra as a character within the SC community but he is one of the best Brood War and Sc2 foreigners of all time and a mainstay of the community for years, to compare him to a guy like Total Biscuit is just mind blowing. Mr Idra fanboy you are delusional he is not one of the best sc2 foreigners he is howver one of the most hyped sc2 foreigners. Why do you keep spawning crap when you got no actually facts to back it up? What has Idra won recently beside an IGN season one with alot of medicore NA. Watch Dreamhack, I woulnt be supriced if Idra cant make it out of his group. But enough of Idra´s skilllevel thats not the argument. And I dont compare Idra to total biscuit one is a player and one is a caster and atleast the player could give some compliments to the casters that have showcased them to the world. TB,husky,HD etc. Becuase without those casters and many others Idra would be playing in his mom´s basement. He should feel very privileged he is in this position he is today and atleats he could give some courtesy to the members of the community that has made sc2 esport what it is today I will take TB over Idra any day of the week. TB provides new fans to this sport all Idra does is promote BM. I know that is hard to understand for the Idra cult and his minions This is just way too bad/dumb a post to bother responding to fully. Idra was a professional Starcraft player before Total Biscuit had even played the game, he spent 2 years on professional Korean team. He most definitely does not need HD/Husky or Total Biscuit in order to make a living from this game. He is without doubt one of the most successful Sc2 foreigners alongside Jinro and Huk. Idra should learn some manners and respect, but for guys like Boxer and his fellow competitors, he is bang on about Total Biscuit. Are you telling me Idra had 20k viewers on his stream when he was playing bw? His popularity has skyrockted since sc2 launch. Stop being stupide. The sc2 community has made Idra what he is today and atleast he could say thx you instead of insulting casters like TB Perhaps Total Biscuit should respect the community of the game he's currently making money from. He should at least respect us enough to understand the game itself. He was streaming during MLG, that is just absurd. How can anyone who claims to love the game stream during MLG? This is a massive tournament, with the best players in the world and he'd rather ladder? Would a football commentator miss out on the World Cup final?
There are extremely many commentator who misses the world cup. Are you kidding? Everybody is not invited everywhere you know. Dumbest argument I've heard in a long time.
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On June 16 2011 05:21 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 05:17 SolHeiM wrote:On June 16 2011 05:13 Blasphemi wrote:On June 16 2011 05:02 Nerdslayer wrote:On June 16 2011 04:57 Blasphemi wrote:On June 16 2011 04:55 chickenhawk wrote:It was a small Sc2 tournament with a handful of European players, how is that a fantastic day for E-Sports? It's not even a fantastic day for Starcraft 2, nevermind the millions of e-sports fans who couldn't give a damn about Starcraft. Because it proved that a small tournament with just a small cash prize, 1500 is nothing comparing to GSL or any other sport, can have a 15+ viewer count. It didn't prove that at all, everyone knew that for a while. For a comparison he had about the same vieiwers as Idra does on his low quality stream with him saying nothing. Really Blasphemy everyone knew it? Wow, im glad we got you here on these wonderfull forum to presume how many knew about this tournament. I didnt knew about it but I did tune in to see it. And idra dont do 20k wievers in his stream once again I ask you to stop spawning shit and provide some goddam facts. Total Biscuits stream: http://www.justin.tv/totalbiscuitIdra's stream: http://www.justin.tv/eg_idraNotice Idra has more views. This is despite the fact that Idra has only ever streamed his grainy ladder games almost always with his voice muted and he frequently goes weeks at a time without streaming. Total Biscuit streams almost every day and streams his tournaments and probably some WoW and other games in the same place and still he has less views than Idra. Total Biscuit has his followers obviously, but to say he is extremely popular within the Sc2 community is flat out not true. http://www.justin.tv/liquidhukhttp://www.justin.tv/incontroltvApparently people would also rather watch muted streams of Huk and InControl that tournaments and streams of total biscuit. Idra often has 20k viewers if he streams at peak times. Did you just compare viewership between the ladder games of a top Grand Master player, often considered the best foreign player in the world and a midlevel platinum player? I don't even know to begin with a statement as asinine as the one you just made. People watch IdrA's stream because they know he's a good player. Most top level Grand Master don't even break 1000 live viewers, yet TotalBiscuit streams with 2-4k often, and he's in platinum. People don't watch TB for his Starcraft, they watch him for his personality, and clearly his personality is 10 times less attractive to the community than watching a good player play in silence. Which demonstrates where the priorities of the majority of the community lie.
Again I don't even know where to begin, because that statement is just wrong.
People watch IdrA for his personality as well, and the only times IdrA ever had 20k was when he was forced to do live commentary for losing a bet with JP. He struggles to break 8-10k with just dubstep and silence, which is nowhere near the 20k you claim he has whenever he streams at peak times.
And I fail to see how being a personality in the community is bad. People watch Bill O'reilly not because he's a genius, but because he's a personality. People watch Jon Stewart not because he's a genius, but because of his personality. People watch HuskyStarcraft not because he's a genius, but because of his personality.
All I can see coming out of your mouth is jealousy.
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On June 16 2011 05:26 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 05:23 Nerdslayer wrote:On June 16 2011 05:19 Blasphemi wrote:On June 16 2011 05:10 Nerdslayer wrote:On June 16 2011 05:02 Blasphemi wrote:On June 16 2011 04:05 Nerdslayer wrote:
I cant belive Stateofthegame aka Djwheat is putting up with Idra he is bashing and hating on every from cruncher to huk to mc to TB.
Idra is an ambassador for the sc2 Esport scene what an embarrasment.
I don't particularly like Idra as a character within the SC community but he is one of the best Brood War and Sc2 foreigners of all time and a mainstay of the community for years, to compare him to a guy like Total Biscuit is just mind blowing. Mr Idra fanboy you are delusional he is not one of the best sc2 foreigners he is howver one of the most hyped sc2 foreigners. Why do you keep spawning crap when you got no actually facts to back it up? What has Idra won recently beside an IGN season one with alot of medicore NA. Watch Dreamhack, I woulnt be supriced if Idra cant make it out of his group. But enough of Idra´s skilllevel thats not the argument. And I dont compare Idra to total biscuit one is a player and one is a caster and atleast the player could give some compliments to the casters that have showcased them to the world. TB,husky,HD etc. Becuase without those casters and many others Idra would be playing in his mom´s basement. He should feel very privileged he is in this position he is today and atleats he could give some courtesy to the members of the community that has made sc2 esport what it is today I will take TB over Idra any day of the week. TB provides new fans to this sport all Idra does is promote BM. I know that is hard to understand for the Idra cult and his minions This is just way too bad/dumb a post to bother responding to fully. Idra was a professional Starcraft player before Total Biscuit had even played the game, he spent 2 years on professional Korean team. He most definitely does not need HD/Husky or Total Biscuit in order to make a living from this game. He is without doubt one of the most successful Sc2 foreigners alongside Jinro and Huk. Idra should learn some manners and respect, but for guys like Boxer and his fellow competitors, he is bang on about Total Biscuit. Are you telling me Idra had 20k viewers on his stream when he was playing bw? His popularity has skyrockted since sc2 launch. Stop being stupide. The sc2 community has made Idra what he is today and atleast he could say thx you instead of insulting casters like TB Perhaps Total Biscuit should respect the community of the game he's currently making money from. He should at least respect us enough to understand the game itself. He was streaming during MLG, that is just absurd. How can anyone who claims to love the game stream during MLG? This is a massive tournament, with the best players in the world and he'd rather ladder? Would a football commentator miss out on the World Cup final?
lol comparing the MLG to the world cup. I dont even know why I bother with you Blashemy
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On June 16 2011 05:28 ribboo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 05:26 Blasphemi wrote:On June 16 2011 05:23 Nerdslayer wrote:On June 16 2011 05:19 Blasphemi wrote:On June 16 2011 05:10 Nerdslayer wrote:On June 16 2011 05:02 Blasphemi wrote:On June 16 2011 04:05 Nerdslayer wrote:
I cant belive Stateofthegame aka Djwheat is putting up with Idra he is bashing and hating on every from cruncher to huk to mc to TB.
Idra is an ambassador for the sc2 Esport scene what an embarrasment.
I don't particularly like Idra as a character within the SC community but he is one of the best Brood War and Sc2 foreigners of all time and a mainstay of the community for years, to compare him to a guy like Total Biscuit is just mind blowing. Mr Idra fanboy you are delusional he is not one of the best sc2 foreigners he is howver one of the most hyped sc2 foreigners. Why do you keep spawning crap when you got no actually facts to back it up? What has Idra won recently beside an IGN season one with alot of medicore NA. Watch Dreamhack, I woulnt be supriced if Idra cant make it out of his group. But enough of Idra´s skilllevel thats not the argument. And I dont compare Idra to total biscuit one is a player and one is a caster and atleast the player could give some compliments to the casters that have showcased them to the world. TB,husky,HD etc. Becuase without those casters and many others Idra would be playing in his mom´s basement. He should feel very privileged he is in this position he is today and atleats he could give some courtesy to the members of the community that has made sc2 esport what it is today I will take TB over Idra any day of the week. TB provides new fans to this sport all Idra does is promote BM. I know that is hard to understand for the Idra cult and his minions This is just way too bad/dumb a post to bother responding to fully. Idra was a professional Starcraft player before Total Biscuit had even played the game, he spent 2 years on professional Korean team. He most definitely does not need HD/Husky or Total Biscuit in order to make a living from this game. He is without doubt one of the most successful Sc2 foreigners alongside Jinro and Huk. Idra should learn some manners and respect, but for guys like Boxer and his fellow competitors, he is bang on about Total Biscuit. Are you telling me Idra had 20k viewers on his stream when he was playing bw? His popularity has skyrockted since sc2 launch. Stop being stupide. The sc2 community has made Idra what he is today and atleast he could say thx you instead of insulting casters like TB Perhaps Total Biscuit should respect the community of the game he's currently making money from. He should at least respect us enough to understand the game itself. He was streaming during MLG, that is just absurd. How can anyone who claims to love the game stream during MLG? This is a massive tournament, with the best players in the world and he'd rather ladder? Would a football commentator miss out on the World Cup final? There are extremely many commentator who misses the world cup. Are you kidding? Everybody is not invited everywhere you know. Dumbest argument I've heard in a long time.
I mean watching in on TV, in a Bar or in the Stadium, wherever.
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On June 16 2011 05:29 Nerdslayer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 05:26 Blasphemi wrote:On June 16 2011 05:23 Nerdslayer wrote:On June 16 2011 05:19 Blasphemi wrote:On June 16 2011 05:10 Nerdslayer wrote:On June 16 2011 05:02 Blasphemi wrote:On June 16 2011 04:05 Nerdslayer wrote:
I cant belive Stateofthegame aka Djwheat is putting up with Idra he is bashing and hating on every from cruncher to huk to mc to TB.
Idra is an ambassador for the sc2 Esport scene what an embarrasment.
I don't particularly like Idra as a character within the SC community but he is one of the best Brood War and Sc2 foreigners of all time and a mainstay of the community for years, to compare him to a guy like Total Biscuit is just mind blowing. Mr Idra fanboy you are delusional he is not one of the best sc2 foreigners he is howver one of the most hyped sc2 foreigners. Why do you keep spawning crap when you got no actually facts to back it up? What has Idra won recently beside an IGN season one with alot of medicore NA. Watch Dreamhack, I woulnt be supriced if Idra cant make it out of his group. But enough of Idra´s skilllevel thats not the argument. And I dont compare Idra to total biscuit one is a player and one is a caster and atleast the player could give some compliments to the casters that have showcased them to the world. TB,husky,HD etc. Becuase without those casters and many others Idra would be playing in his mom´s basement. He should feel very privileged he is in this position he is today and atleats he could give some courtesy to the members of the community that has made sc2 esport what it is today I will take TB over Idra any day of the week. TB provides new fans to this sport all Idra does is promote BM. I know that is hard to understand for the Idra cult and his minions This is just way too bad/dumb a post to bother responding to fully. Idra was a professional Starcraft player before Total Biscuit had even played the game, he spent 2 years on professional Korean team. He most definitely does not need HD/Husky or Total Biscuit in order to make a living from this game. He is without doubt one of the most successful Sc2 foreigners alongside Jinro and Huk. Idra should learn some manners and respect, but for guys like Boxer and his fellow competitors, he is bang on about Total Biscuit. Are you telling me Idra had 20k viewers on his stream when he was playing bw? His popularity has skyrockted since sc2 launch. Stop being stupide. The sc2 community has made Idra what he is today and atleast he could say thx you instead of insulting casters like TB Perhaps Total Biscuit should respect the community of the game he's currently making money from. He should at least respect us enough to understand the game itself. He was streaming during MLG, that is just absurd. How can anyone who claims to love the game stream during MLG? This is a massive tournament, with the best players in the world and he'd rather ladder? Would a football commentator miss out on the World Cup final? lol comparing the MLG to the world cup. I dont even know why I bother with you Blashemy
MLG is the World Cup, Champions League, European Championships etc.. of Starcraft along with GSL. If you don't watch the finals of those I really don't see how you can consider yourself a competitive Sc2 fan.
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