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The elephant in the room here:
Slasher is making money from this kind of content.
Slasher will be out of a job if he is no longer leaking this content.
Alex, while not done professionally, suggested that Slasher is soon going to be out of a job and content soon when the teams stop contacting him.
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On January 16 2013 10:58 fuzzylogic44 wrote: I agree with Alex but I think Slasher is a nice guy, just misguided, and I feel bad for the public flogging he's getting.
The problem is that Slasher is the only one in this position so he obviously takes the brunt of it.
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Alex Garfield went full Alex Jones. You never go full Alex Jones.
Slasher keeps dodging the same question >.>
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On January 16 2013 10:59 Whitewing wrote: I think Alex went a little overboard making his point but it was well made. He kind of went off his rocker though and shouldn't have done that on a public forum.
Boiling over like that in public by saying "I'm done with you, etc." was very unprofessional of him, yes. It wasn't the first time he did this. That's why I like EG players, but am not really willing to support EG the company.
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On January 16 2013 10:57 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 10:55 SafeWord wrote: Slasher doesn't even answer the question STOP BEATING AROUND AND ANSWER.
I have lost all respect for slasher, hands down. basically this
Please just try to see it not all black/white. Its not that simple.
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When reading Harry Potter, having a note float down onto your book that says
"Snape kills Dumbledore" ~Slasher
Does not provide anything. The viewer is going to find out snape kills dumbledore as they finish the book. They will find out in the carefully crafted way the author intended it. Spoiling for the sake of spoiling isn't journalism and it ruins hype.
Again: However, if Slasher isn't doing it, someone else will. Slasher is not the real enemy here, and that should be kept in mind.
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Slasher is not your PR arm!, demanding that he should not write stuff that people that are not yourself have told him is stupid!
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Honestly this is just making Slasher look horribly dumb.
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On January 16 2013 10:56 Shinobi1982 wrote:Poll: Do you (eSports enthusiast), like that Slasher is leaking early news?No (72) 51% Yes (68) 49% 140 total votes Your vote: Do you (eSports enthusiast), like that Slasher is leaking early news? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No
Poll is useless, I don't like that he's leaking stuff, but I agree that it's necessary an well within his right.
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On January 16 2013 11:02 SiguR wrote: When reading Harry Potter, having a note float down onto your book that says
"Snape kills Dumbledore" ~Slasher
Does not provide anything. The viewer is going to find out snape kills dumbledore as they finish the book. They will find out in the carefully crafted way the author intended it. Spoiling for the sake of spoiling isn't journalism and it ruins hype.
Again: However, if Slasher isn't doing it, someone else will. Slasher is not the real enemy here, and that should be kept in mind.
There is a huge difference between a team signing a player and spoiling a book.
Even you must know that's a completely stupid comparison.
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On January 16 2013 11:02 Brindled wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 10:59 Whitewing wrote: I think Alex went a little overboard making his point but it was well made. He kind of went off his rocker though and shouldn't have done that on a public forum. Boiling over like that in public by saying "I'm done with you, etc." was very unprofessional of him, yes. It wasn't the first time he did this. That's why I like EG players, but am not really willing to support EG the company. I believe the "I'm done with you" was meant in completely professional context. I.E., Alex Garfield will no longer conduct business with an individual who has continuously failed to even attempt any kind of contact.
Or, more to the point, Slasher (and GameSpot) will be refused contact with anyone on EG.
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On January 16 2013 11:01 IRL_Sinister wrote: The elephant in the room here:
Slasher is making money from this kind of content.
Slasher will be out of a job if he is no longer leaking this content.
Alex, while not done professionally, suggested that Slasher is soon going to be out of a job and content soon when the teams stop contacting him. not true at all. slashers continued point is that he is a legitimate journalist cuz he also does legitimate journalism. we're saying its bad for him to ALSO do the 'breaking news' stuff and that it may even be bad for him as it costs him his sources and credibility.
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On January 16 2013 10:59 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 10:58 archonOOid wrote: Alex made a fool of himself. He went on a rant and used explicit language. Oh no, how utterly terrible of him.
Well he is a professional team owner. I would expect a little more maturity from him.
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If teams are, in IdrA's words, "marketing agencies," shouldn't that put them in direct competition with journalists? Clamp down your own leaks or live with the consequences. Slasher's job isn't to do what's best for EG or TL. It might be nice if he could do what's best for EG and him, but that's a judgment call. If they can convince the regular audience that it's best to ignore Slasher, then Slasher will be forced to change, but you can't force him directly.
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On January 16 2013 11:01 fuzzylogic44 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 10:59 EleanorRIgby wrote: holy shit when are they gonna talk about stuff inside the game, all this journalism drama is so stupid. It's not stupid it's an important issue for the health of the SC2 scene. It doesn't matter shit, seriously if anyone believes that Slasher in any way can damage the SC2 scene then you need to check your reality. The worse that would happen is that Slasher would be excommunicated. I like the discussion with Slasher and TB more than with Alex since they seem to be actually talking with each other instead of going " FU FU YOU ARE WRONG"
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Slasher really should reach for the exclusive content and go with reporting on the announcement by organization instead of breaking news without any other content.
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Fuck Slasher. Srsly. He is so retarded.
User was temp banned for this post.
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If they work together they can accomplish so much more with organized and insightful press releases at specific targeted times. Slasher doesn't care, wants to leak a lazy news article so he can say that he knew first and he is the best.
Eventually he will burn enough bridges that he will be out of a job.
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On January 16 2013 11:05 Ansinjunger wrote: If teams are, in IdrA's words, "marketing agencies," shouldn't that put them in direct competition with journalists? Clamp down your own leaks or live with the consequences. Slasher's job isn't to do what's best for EG or TL. It might be nice if he could do what's best for EG and him, but that's a judgment call. If they can convince the regular audience that it's best to ignore Slasher, then Slasher will be forced to change, but you can't force him directly. it's more convoluted than that, lots of organizations are involved and have to be privy to that information and we cant control all of them. it's in slashers best interest to work with the organizations here and to respect them, because as alex says he's costing himself information and if he just used what he has less lazily he could work in tandem with them and get just as many, if not more viewers.
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