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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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Porcelina
United Kingdom3249 Posts
On August 08 2012 09:53 iNcontroL wrote: the dumbest part is your misinterpretation of what I was doing.. I actually said specifically why I was talking about it. You not hearing it or choosing to ignore does not make me dumb.. I did not say that you were dumb, I have very little reason to believe that is the case. The reasons for it being brought up were that it showed character growth on the part of Naniwa and to show a contrast from how the community treated Puma's transfer from TSL to EG in comparison to Naniwa leaving Quantic. The background for why it came up does not make it better to just stating that either one or both of the parties (probably both, seeing that they seemed to be in agreement however unclear it all was) were lying about the split without bringing anything of substance concerning it. I do not envy you the position of having to speak on community issues involving drama, sometimes knowing tons more than any random poster on Team Liquid does without bringing up stuff like this though. I just do not see where this could ever head except to create drama and to cast doubt as to how one could trust Naniwa (which many people will not anyway based on general dislike or previous behavior) or Quantic again when it comes to statements. With how much exposure is on people that are active in the scene, it must be really hard not to create that kind of situation from time to time. But whatever, I am a bit at odds with myself as to whether to continue this discussion at all; if the claim that it was all a lie is not going to be substantiated, I wish it would just go away because nothing could be gained from it. | ||
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Rezudox
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HotGlueGun
United States1409 Posts
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
On August 08 2012 10:08 hifriend wrote: So a player leaves his team before his contract ends. Both parties say it was on friendly terms. They thank each other publicly. Naniwa goes on a talk show and gives us several reasons for leaving the team. And you want the community to react to this, how exactly? I mean the sc2 community is good at drama and all, but there's not much to work with here. Do you wish for the community to just assume everyone's lying and start speculating wildly instead? Sorry but this comes off as extremely petty. "A bad thing happened to me so it's only fair it happens to everyone else." you missed out the key point that naniwa and sase have both said publicly they wont split up and they will stay on the same team for the foreseeable future | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
On August 08 2012 10:13 L3g3nd_ wrote: you missed out the key point that naniwa and sase have both said publicly they wont split up and they will stay on the same team for the foreseeable future I don't think that's relevant at all. I can sympathize with what naniwa said, namely that they were stuck together in a non-english speaking country for several months, which makes them fairly isolated in a sense. He says they did everything together while living under the same roof, so I don't see how them eventually getting on each other's nerves is surprising or even that big of a deal.. | ||
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ChuCky.Ca
Canada2497 Posts
On August 08 2012 10:11 Rezudox wrote: Quantic and Naniwa part ways (for whatever reason) in a professional manner in the eyes of the public. And Geoff charges in to kick a beehive he has no reason kick. Comparing The Naniwa/Quantic situation to the TSL/Puma situation is a really strange thing to do considering Geoff just cast himself in the role of crazy coach Lee. The only difference being coach Lee actually had a reason on some level to be involved with that situation. Why be that guy Geoff? why are you bringing up useless stuff and pointless drama why be that guy Rezudox? | ||
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TitleRug
United States651 Posts
On August 08 2012 10:17 ChuCky.Ca wrote: why are you bringing up useless stuff and pointless drama why be that guy Rezudox? There is nothing useless or pointless about what Rezudox said. Rezudox is being the good guy. | ||
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Rezudox
207 Posts
On August 08 2012 10:17 ChuCky.Ca wrote: why are you bringing up useless stuff and pointless drama why be that guy Rezudox? I dont think what I said was particularly inflammatory or unreasonable. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17686 Posts
On August 08 2012 09:43 Tachion wrote: I guess "real talk" isn't so real after all  oh my esports...what if the Tasteless and Day[9] masturbation story is true?? | ||
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coolcor
520 Posts
On August 08 2012 09:56 JackDT wrote: He was coming at it from the angle of being on the other side for once, and how strange that felt to see the PR from that perspective. I agree it may have come off a little strange though. He also said he thought it was interesting people wanted to know more about puma going to eg but trusted Naniwa was saying the truth about why he left. But I really don't get how anyone could be confused about the difference between the two events that caused that. This was the first we heard about Puma. Manager Lee noted that "It is disappointing that we have to make a decision like this, but it's extremely objectionable [T/N: displeasing, disgusting, etc] that Evil Geniuses would ignore the coaches completely and directly go talk to the player" TIG confirms that Puma will be joining Evil Geniuses. EG made an offer to Puma after they made it to the round of 4, and after that, Puma had decided that he would accept EG's offer. Puma revealed his intentions to the TSL manager after coming back to Korea. Manager Lee decided to respect the player's wishes in the end. He noted that "It's really disturbing. It feels like the player I raised was just stolen away from me.", adding that "There needs to be a system to stop foreign teams from stealing Korean players like this" Of course the community went crazy over that and some wouldn't instantly believe the EG response because there are two sides to chose from. If anyone in the industry posted a similar message saying Naniwa leaving was disturbing and objectionable for some reason when it happened I think we'd have a similar big drama thread over it. But now that there was really only one side of the story there is nothing to do unless he wants the community to regularily call any PR statement a lie based on almost nothing. (If only Chobopeon got his esports reporter kickstarter funding he could have broke this story. He was right all along about nobody else giving us the truth we were all fools to ignore him!!!) you missed out the key point that naniwa and sase have both said publicly they wont split up and they will stay on the same team for the foreseeable future That is not enough for the community to call out lieing. How many poeple saw that quote and remembered it until now? Of those people if someone brought it up in the thread and said "hey Naniwa remember that old quote about not leaving Sase? I do not believe your explanation that friends can grow to not like eachother as much after living together for a while. We all know that roomates always get along perfectly together forever so tell us the truth!" would people get behind that poster or would they call him a conspiracy theorist who better stop randomly accusing people. | ||
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Shaddar
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
On August 08 2012 10:32 Shaddar wrote: I am sick of people alluding to things going on behind the scenes and people lying without explicitly saying what is going on or giving sources or anything. It just creates unnecessary rumors and speculation, which sometimes can be more damaging than the truth. Either say everything or nothing. I second this notion, way too much pandering around. | ||
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kardinal
Sweden154 Posts
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On August 08 2012 10:32 Shaddar wrote: I am sick of people alluding to things going on behind the scenes and people lying without explicitly saying what is going on or giving sources or anything. It just creates unnecessary rumors and speculation, which sometimes can be more damaging than the truth. Either say everything or nothing. Wheat and Scoots usually rail on slasher when he does this on Live on Three, and you can see he kinda attempted to get more out of incontrol about it ;p I think Wheat shares your views at least. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On August 08 2012 10:13 HotGlueGun wrote: I agree with Geoff, why would Quantic just let one of the most popular AND successful foreigners of all time leave their team? That would be like Millenium dropping Stephano or Liquid dropping Hero. or like eg losing grubby. nani gave the answer already that quantic doesnt have the funds to send him to all the events he wants to go to and pay him the money he wants to earn. until i hear something different that sounds like a reasonable reason to me. On August 08 2012 10:32 Shaddar wrote: I am sick of people alluding to things going on behind the scenes and people lying without explicitly saying what is going on or giving sources or anything. It just creates unnecessary rumors and speculation, which sometimes can be more damaging than the truth. Either say everything or nothing. i honestly dont care either way about people being fluffy or alluding to this that and the other, its all part of the conversation. if people want to say something they are more than welcome to but everything has consequences and i dont think incontrol is going to want to have to answer the criticism hes gonna get for fluffing around some issue that no one knows about yet. if he did want to answer those questions he wouldnt of had to allude to anything in the first place ;/ | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
except when Grubby went independent, his contract was up | ||
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
On August 08 2012 10:17 hifriend wrote: I don't think that's relevant at all. I can sympathize with what naniwa said, namely that they were stuck together in a non-english speaking country for several months, which makes them fairly isolated in a sense. He says they did everything together while living under the same roof, so I don't see how them eventually getting on each other's nerves is surprising or even that big of a deal.. well the fact you think it isnt relevant is why youre an idiot User was warned for this post | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On August 08 2012 11:14 L3g3nd_ wrote: well the fact you think it isnt relevant is why youre an idiot naniwa confirmed on real talk, after speculation from people who saw them together recently that they had had a minor falling out due to the constraints of living together 'alone' for months at a time. for anyone thats everspent that kind of time with another guy before its something very easy to understand, its hard to live with 1 friend that long and not fall out over something minor. i dont understand what you are trying to imply? nani admitted him feeling less tied to sase is a factor in his departure. | ||
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