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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
TLPD DOES have complete stats, every tournament game ever played by a known pro player is in there. You can get any match up win %, overall win %, win% within a specified time period, head to head win % against a specific player, win % on a map, that map's race match up win %, etc. Everything djWheat is talking about is in TLPD. He should just use it during his cast if he thinks it'll add so much, instead of talking about how it would be great if it existed, when it already exists. | ||
Antoine
United States7481 Posts
Map versions are pretty straightforward, if you can't tell the difference by looking at the map images it generally means that the higher-numbered version has spawn position/ramp blocker adjustments. there is a weakness in that you have to manually add the kr+int data together yourself if you so desire, but we're looking to address that somehow. here's the link: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1614_NaNiwa/games http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/1614_NaNiwa/games | ||
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Jinsho
United Kingdom3101 Posts
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ixi.genocide
United States981 Posts
I think that your examples of butchering starcraft on tv is flawed because you aren't taking into consideration the preparation of a match up. I think that asking for a live game is not possible and because of that we need to look at the possibilities of a replay centered show. Since a replay does not have the odd timings of a "PP" in the middle of the show you can actually set up and rehearse an entire show before you film it and parse out the timings. An example of that would be something like... example- After watching a game between MVP and MC you see that MVP does a stim timing at 7:30 and an exciting battle happens there. Because you have know that it would be best to watch through that scene without interruption and you can do things to stretch the times before (or shrink preferably) that commercial break. In the end you would have an 90 match reduced to 42 minutes but you would still have all of the exciting moments being dictated by the commercial breaks. Show starts off with an introduction of the players, hosts and show A brief overview of the first 3-4 minutes is talked about. The interesting part of the infrastructure/build planning is shown The interesting quirks about that game is shown. A brief overview and then a cut to commercial. Return you have a brief overview of what happened up until the next major engagement The time through the engagements etc A brief summary of game and cut to commercial. Game 2 and 3 don't need the intro but they would essentially take the same process. While I don't really advocate for television (nor am I against it), I don't think that the "butchering of the game" as you are describing it should be a keynote. There are tournaments that aren't live and they are fine, there are ways to cut to a commercial without missing the action and there is a way to make the slow parts of the game crunched so you can fit a full match in 1 hour. | ||
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Grettin
42417 Posts
Vods here if you missed the show: VoD Part 1 VoD Part 2 | ||
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Gotmog
Serbia899 Posts
I listened for the 1st 30-45min (biggest waste of time ever), then i just started skipping for a few min at a time, trying to get to some interesting topic... but no...whole show is about growth of esports bs.... I just wish i could've seen some topic list for the show before i waste an hour of my life on something like this again -_- My god...i never thought i was gonna write something like this about inside the game/stotg.......... | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
We tweeted what it was going to be about and at the beginning we clearly stated what we were going to discuss. You seem pretty terrible at listening to shows if you missed that.. additionally, sorry we got you so upset. You should ask for your money back. | ||
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Grettin
42417 Posts
On November 23 2011 18:14 Gotmog wrote: Oh my....i hated....HATED this last ep -_- I listened for the 1st 30-45min (biggest waste of time ever), then i just started skipping for a few min at a time, trying to get to some interesting topic... but no...whole show is about growth of esports bs.... I just wish i could've seen some topic list for the show before i waste an hour of my life on something like this again -_- My god...i never thought i was gonna write something like this about inside the game/stotg.......... To be honest, it's completely your fault. Previous page, someone POSTED the tweet about what is most likely going to happen, as well as both, Incontrol and DjWheat tweeted what is going to happen for sure. Yes, maybe it was a bit boring and it was only about "growth of esports", but you shouldn't be complaining if you didn't bother to check what is coming, especially if you know you are not going to like it or it doesn't interest you one bit. e. meh, Geoff was faster. T_T | ||
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Deckkie
Netherlands1595 Posts
On November 23 2011 18:04 Grettin wrote: Surprise few people are bitching yet again. Nothing seem to be enough to some of you, ever. Vods here if you missed the show: VoD Part 1 VoD Part 2 Thank you  | ||
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Gotmog
Serbia899 Posts
On November 23 2011 18:19 iNcontroL wrote: lol We tweeted what it was going to be about and at the beginning we clearly stated what we were going to discuss. You seem pretty terrible at listening to shows if you missed that.. additionally, sorry we got you so upset. You should ask for your money back. On November 23 2011 18:23 Grettin wrote: To be honest, it's completely your fault. Previous page, someone POSTED the tweet about what is most likely going to happen, as well as both, Incontrol and DjWheat tweeted what is going to happen for sure. Yes, maybe it was a bit boring and it was only about "growth of esports", but you shouldn't be complaining if you didn't bother to check what is coming, especially if you know you are not going to like it or it doesn't interest you one bit. e. meh, Geoff was faster. T_T Fair enough. My bad. | ||
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HydraLF
Hong Kong626 Posts
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Darksteel
Finland319 Posts
On November 23 2011 09:53 Zzoram wrote: djWheat has no idea how TLPD works. TLPD DOES have complete stats, every tournament game ever played by a known pro player is in there. You can get any match up win %, overall win %, win% within a specified time period, head to head win % against a specific player, win % on a map, that map's race match up win %, etc. Everything djWheat is talking about is in TLPD. He should just use it during his cast if he thinks it'll add so much, instead of talking about how it would be great if it existed, when it already exists. Yeah, I suppose casters could have enough downtime between matches to look up some statistics or have someone else of the production crew do that. For example I don't recall any mention about Naniwa vs DRG match history in Providence. They had some pre-game trolling about Naniwa not getting good enough. On retrospect, they played eachother in Anaheim and DRG won 2-0. In Providence they played the exact same maps and Naniwa won 2-0. They could have used stuff like that hype up the match even more, if someone had 2 minutes to spend on TLPD (including DRG's 100% winrate on Dual sight before Providence). I have no idea how busy the casters are, so maybe they could have one statistics guy per stream to look up stuff when they what matchup they are going to broadcast. | ||
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ZergX
France436 Posts
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Omnipresent
United States871 Posts
If you want epsorts to grow, these are the kinds of conversations we have to have. It's really unique that they're asking us to be a part of it, instead of just having MLG or another organization discussing this behind closed doors. | ||
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Hoodlum
United States350 Posts
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Omnipresent
United States871 Posts
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ZergX
France436 Posts
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UBavarice
Sweden358 Posts
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Magnitoo
Serbia125 Posts
On November 29 2011 07:11 UBavarice wrote: Does anyone know if there'll be an episode airing tomorrow? ^This. I don't want to stay up for no reason  :D | ||
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
This evening on Inside the Game djWHEAT and the gang will be bringing you their thoughts and predictions for this weekend's NASL. We'll also be taking your questions via e-mail, Twitter, and the phones - so be sure to submit them quickly if you haven't already! Send us a tweet @iTG_SC2, or e-mail us at itg@onemoregame.tv. Catch us tonight! Inside the Game starts at 12AM UTC / 7PM EST / 4PM PST and is brought to you by SteelSeries and Sixpool Gaming. Written on Tuesday, 29 November 2011 15:04 seems like it :o | ||
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