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SteelSeries just posted a really nice feature on EG.IdrA that discusses his career from joining eSTRO back in 2007 up until his move back to the U.S. It's informative for those interested in how he first became a professional gamer.
Here's an excerpt: + Show Spoiler +Even before leaving for South Korea, Greg was infamous for his outbursts in games. He would sometimes berate his opponents for "cheesy" plays, and in South Korea where losing face is worse than losing games, his loud mouth had earned him a reputation as a player who says want he wants. If you ask Greg, he actually feels that he has earned an unfair reputation. - Honestly I think it's largely overblown stuff based on reputation. I mean, I do get mad when I lose games, and occasionally when I lose in a particular stupid fashion - like the games versus Masq or Silver or whatever, I will tell my opponents what I think of them. You can read the entire article at http://steelseries.com/gaming/teams/evil-geniuses/player-interviews/1on1-with-idra
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Great stuff. Wouldn't be complete without the BM towards HD and Husky LOL
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Haven't seen an interview with him in awhile. Thanks!
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Very nicely put together interview. I enjoyed it.
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Amazing.
Has a couple of typos, but it's awesome.
Thank you :}
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Like the interesting format
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He looks quite introspective with that first shot. Nice article, an interesting read.
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I loved the quote "oddly enough the more people that hate you, the more they want to watch, so in some way it's almost beneficial". I'm glad he sees it like that because it really is the truth! You don't even have to look any farther than professional wrestling so see that people love the bad guy, or at least who people perceive to be the bad guy. Not to mention plenty of teams would want to be associated with him because they know he can draw an audience of haters and fans alike. (I know that the IM team has said they would never take him, but certainly he wouldn't have any trouble finding a place if something happened to Evil Geniuses)
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Great article. I agree with Idra that his reputation is over-blown. Idra should be known as more of a guy who says what is on his mind, not someone who is bad mannered or a crybaby (especially that).
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Great article. Especially for those who are unfamiliar with Idra's history.
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this is an amazing article straight out of a magazine
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This is an article that should be in a non starcraft newspaper or something, to get people curious about the starcraft scene, the questions, format, answers are very good (maybe best I''ve seen yet) but not much new for someone who knows who he is/was.
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It reads oddly, as if it was written before he moved back to the US and then they just tacked the last few months on in the last paragraph :p
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Really nice interview, I didn't know Idra had so many freckles, that's pretty neat, there is not enough freckled faces where I live. Anyhow really nice how it does a big overview and I had forgottent that he started in Estro then CJ Entus.
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I thought it was pieced together in a unique way. Instead of being a simple Q + A they made it into more of a reader's digest sort of piece. Its more of a short biography of his Starcraft career. It was different and I liked it. Thanks for sharing ^_^
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"Then hd and husky upload it because they need an excuse to draw viewers" lool <3
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Beautiful article.
Steelseries does really good bios. Rapha's (from Quake) is just as amazing.
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Really interesting article, however it felt like they were repeating themselves several times on the first four pages.
Still... It's interesting to see Idra's take on all the stigma he gets for BMing.
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That was a great article. I always enjoy what Idra has to say.
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Excellent write up. Made me want to hear more tho. Greg has one of the most unique "Live your Dream" story in our generation. IMO.
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I love this bio, really puts a personality behind that name tag that we will see in many tournaments to come.
It also must be pretty neat to have the feeling that thousands of people around the world are a fan of YOU and not just your play
(Also) someone please make a cereal guy comic of the "IdrA could have a girlfriend!" line, i would but i always ruin them haha
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i actually really like IdrA, he seems like a smart gamer yet also interesting and willing to respond to questions with interesting answers. Granted i don't agree with some of the BM but no one's perfect
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Sick article imo. Thanks for sharing!
I remember being pretty pissed back in 2007 or w/e when idra was the one that got to go to Korea. He wasn't really considered an absolute top foreigner or anything at that point. I couldn't have been more wrong.
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Very cool read, huge Idra fan so this is all super interesting to me.
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- And then those go up on YouTube because HD and Husky need an excuse to draw viewers, and then everyone sees that and it just circles around since I already have that reputation.
HOLY CRAP! It's about time a pro gamer said that. This is what bugs me the most about HD and Husky. When I first started following SC2, I listened to their casts. Over time, they have grown to be just (IMO!) casters that want to make a quick video and get views. It really irks me that they cast these stupid games and give the players bad images to make a quick buck, but like Idra says, they need an excuse to draw viewers. And now that I think about it, Psy has been doing the same exact thing HD and Husky are doing. Yay... Another caster trying to make a quick buck posting shit videos. Time to unsub from him as well.
Edit - I know people are going to attack me for saying "Why shouldn't they make money?!?!?!" I'm not saying they shouldn't. I'm saying they shouldn't post shit games that defame players just to make a quick buck. It's just stupid.
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To many people, such a transition would be a frightening experience. looks like there's something missing?! (page 2)
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Great article, really. I've discovered a new aspect of a gamer who is sooo overwhelmed by clichés, and I'm pleased of that, even if it's not really an objective description of IdrA.
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Thank you for the interview, seems like it was done some time ago, but with the presentation it's understandable it took some time to get out
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United States12235 Posts
The content of the article was good, but it was very distracting reading through the many typos and omitted words. Things like "Greg lost in Round 32" instead of "Round of 32" and "lost to fellow player Jonathan Walsh" instead of "lost to fellow foreign player Jonathan Walsh" really affect the readability of it.
I also think it's funny how in this article Idra says that most South Korean progamers have no personality (professionally speaking) which is borderline annoying to him, when at recent events (MLG Dallas I believe?) he has said that personality is irrelevant.
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Really interesting to read about when he moved to korea, as I didnt follow the bw scene and well didnt knew about any thing of all this awesome stuff for 13months ago its really interesting to hear about why he decided to go etc.
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The photos were nice and Idra's answers were interesting, but man, the editing of that interview is horrible. Direct quotes from Idra are mixed up with descriptive fluff text without an easy way to distinguish the two, weird column divisions, all those brackets... really hard to read.
I guess that's the DTP'er inside me speaking, though
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Very nice interview and I especially enjoyed the graphic design. Really sleek.
Kudos Steelseries! (For the best keyboard ever and a great interview!)
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On April 30 2011 06:35 Excalibur_Z wrote: The content of the article was good, but it was very distracting reading through the many typos and omitted words. Things like "Greg lost in Round 32" instead of "Round of 32" and "lost to fellow player Jonathan Walsh" instead of "lost to fellow foreign player Jonathan Walsh" really affect the readability of it.
I also think it's funny how in this article Idra says that most South Korean progamers have no personality (professionally speaking) which is borderline annoying to him, when at recent events (MLG Dallas I believe?) he has said that personality is irrelevant.
I believe his stance has always been that, fans shouldn't care, but at the same time he acknowledges that they do, and if that's the case, then having personality is better.
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i like all the serious mode pictures!
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I wouldn't call this an interview but it was still cool to read
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Cool article. Doesnt have that much new information about him but still a really fun read. Recommended for all.
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NaDa comes up to me at BlizzCon and says "Long time, no see", so it has lost it's impact.
I'm sure IdrA is the only person who doesn't quiver like a little girl talking to her crush when he is spoken to by NaDa.
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Nice interview. It's good to see some of IdrA's background and realise how the living and social conditions of the team houses can change a person.
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Great read. At first I thought it was old because it kept referring to Idra's GSL career as if he was still living in Korea. >_>
OCD: Why are the quotes preceded by "-" though? In some parts you can't visually differentiate between Idra's words and the interviewer's. There's also some typos.
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If you're unfamiliar with Idra, it seems that he's socially inept and fits the stereotype but he presents himself really well in interviews, much much better than 99% of the progamers interviewed right now.
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This interview was really good. Thumbs up
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Probably the best interview/summary of a player so far.
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Nice interview, I really like IdrA. The fact that he is coldly honest all the time is awesome, plus he brings the drama and entertainement and he is an awesome player.
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Nice article, many typos and like someone said previously, omitted words were quite annoying. I like the design/layout of the article, very clean.
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Did anyone else notice a lot of the pictures were flipped? Something that kind of bugs me.
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United States22883 Posts
Interesting article, although a lot of it is old for IdrA fans.
The writing and editing is pretty mediocre, though. :| This line especially deserves a /facepalm.
Greg doesn't sugarcoat things. In his old Michigan schoolyard, they would probably say that "he is keepin' it real". The black population in Kalamazoo is like -15%.
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Nice article, was a good read
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Yeah, this is pretty dated. The Starcraft 2 world is moving fast.
Nice though, nonetheless.
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On April 30 2011 07:10 Jibba wrote:Interesting article, although a lot of it is old for IdrA fans. The writing and editing is pretty mediocre, though. :| This line especially deserves a /facepalm. Show nested quote +Greg doesn't sugarcoat things. In his old Michigan schoolyard, they would probably say that "he is keepin' it real". The black population in Kalamazoo is like -15%.
Hey hey hey, white people can be sayin keepin' it real too, dawg.
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On April 30 2011 07:14 Mailing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2011 07:10 Jibba wrote:Interesting article, although a lot of it is old for IdrA fans. The writing and editing is pretty mediocre, though. :| This line especially deserves a /facepalm. Greg doesn't sugarcoat things. In his old Michigan schoolyard, they would probably say that "he is keepin' it real". The black population in Kalamazoo is like -15%. Hey hey hey, white people can be sayin keepin' it real too, dawg.
I'm incredibly Caucasian and I feel like calling you a honky.
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sweet article, love the pictures as well
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Meh, nicely done interview but it looks like its 3 months old, there is nothing in it that the community already didnt know to be honest, i was hoping for some new information and not something i can read in liquipedia.
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Nice interview. Hope he goes back to Korea soon.
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that just made me an even bigger fan of idra! awesome article
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Enjoyable interview, it's really nice to see a professional "character piece" of one of these players. IdrA really gets more of a bad rap than he deserves, he's a decent kid, I think.
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United States22883 Posts
On April 30 2011 07:14 Mailing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2011 07:10 Jibba wrote:Interesting article, although a lot of it is old for IdrA fans. The writing and editing is pretty mediocre, though. :| This line especially deserves a /facepalm. Greg doesn't sugarcoat things. In his old Michigan schoolyard, they would probably say that "he is keepin' it real". The black population in Kalamazoo is like -15%. Hey hey hey, white people can be sayin keepin' it real too, dawg. Fair enough. Still, the whole thing is like a copyeditor's nightmare.
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I don't think I learned anything new, but it was a nice writeup for the most part.
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Such a fantastic lengthy interview, always enjoy reading his interviews.
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Outdated but good article. He even mentions Firebathero, which is hilarious.
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On April 30 2011 07:29 Ben... wrote: Outdated but good article. He even mentions Firebathero, which is hilarious.
this is exactly what i thought.
Love the format tho.
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I love the formatting they used on that. I really enjoy whenever designers take a risk and try out new things (and I feel that, right now, especially with HTML5 becoming so big, we're experiencing a change in formatting and many new ways of doing things are popping up).
Overall, a pretty good article. However, it was incredibly disorienting since it's focusing on what was basically the end of 2010 even though we're about to enter the middle of 2011. Hell, only the last paragraph talked about IdrA moving back to the US and the rest of the article made it seem like he was going to stay in Korea forever.
Also: OMG A PIC OF IDRA SMILING (obligatory).
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Nice interview, even further proves to me that I know Idra's game plan . He's not the bad guy people make him out to be, but he's not your "all is good you can walkover me" type of guy either. Losing sucks and he's vocal about losing, shows that he cares for the game.
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Wow, Idra's was going to RPI to study physics on a scholarship? Dang, that is legit!
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Always good interviews with IdrA
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SS is pretty awesome and they're doing a lot for ESPORTS. Nice interview and site layout.
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Lol Idra and I have something in common now. We both nearly went to RPI before deciding to do something completely unrelated. Great interview. Shame he isn't in Korea anymore, but it was probably the right decision at least monetarily wise.
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Very lengthy interview. Good read.
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ended pretty fast, i was hoping to get more into detail about his united states return, but it seems like this interview was done way before that, damn shame. o well it was still a really good interview, very entertaining read
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It's worth to read it all, IdrA's interviews are always interesting and this is one is very well done.
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Honestly... Isn't Colbi regularly violating the 'no advertising' thing? I read the excerpt and that wasn't much.
I guess I don't support ESPORTS enough.
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An article talking about idra isn't advertising steelseries just because it has the name in the URL.
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Awesome interview!
Nothing new but i really like how it shows the "real" IdrA.
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Loved the interview was really nice :D
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Was this really just uploaded? If so how long have they been sitting on it, the 'current events' in it are pretty old.
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On April 30 2011 07:48 ghrur wrote: Wow, Idra's was going to RPI to study physics on a scholarship? Dang, that is legit! I'm not that surprised though. I don't mean to offend anyone, I've got offers on the table to study physics next year, but us physicists are probably the most easy to stereotype nerds and its not a big step to imagine Idra applying to study physics.
He's right when he says his bm slightly blown out of proportion. I think a lot of people can respect him for speaking his mind, personally I would trust somebodies opinion more if they always spoke their mind instead of never wanting to hurt anybodies feeling (not that that's bad, a happy medium is probably best).
My problem with Idra is sometimes he speaks his mind unnecessary. if you're answering questions about other players then its fine to speak your mind about them, but he sometimes just insults people during interviews when its not really related to the question. I can't think of when it was, but there was some interview on stage at MLG Dallas where he insulted Huk before he'd even been asked about him, and its not the only time he's done something like that.
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Nice interview even though it seems slightly dated. Since I really wasn't into BW it helped me see what his past was and a first hand look into what the BW pro gaming scene was in South Korea. Thanks for posting!
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Sick interview, I love idra even more!
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Good read even though it was slightly long and seems kinda outdated. Enjoyed it nonetheless.
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On April 30 2011 05:55 Xapti wrote: Great article. I agree with Idra that his reputation is over-blown. Idra should be known as more of a guy who says what is on his mind, not someone who is bad mannered or a crybaby (especially that).
Yea, I totally agree with this. I think Idra's reputation has just sort of snowballed and taken on a life of its own. He just doesn't give a f**k what people think, gets pissed sometimes, and it all rubs some people the wrong way who seem to be looking for excused to cry "bad manners".
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That is one of the best interviews I've read regarding Idra
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I'm probably the only one here, but I didn't like where IdrA (or the article's writer) mentioning HD and Husky. I don't see the need to have to name names.
I've been watching HD and Husky's casts since retail, and it's actually funny coz if you listen to HD talk about IdrA, you'd think that he has a man-crush on him (well, not as bad as PsY, though ahahaha!).
I'm a proud IdrA-fanboy, and even moreso if there's in-game BM'ing. Oddly enough, this bm on HD and Husky (which I assume stems from the HDH tournament last year?) seems unnecessary IMO.
GLHF IdrA for NASL!
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On April 30 2011 05:43 bwally wrote: Great stuff. Wouldn't be complete without the BM towards HD and Husky LOL
Lol. But I have to agree with him. The whole silver, masq thing that happened was blown out of the hole.
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The timeline of this article seems so incongruent. The first page covers 18 years, the second page covers a year, the third through ninth cover another year or so, and then the very last little paragraph covers half a year (and very tournament/action packed half year at that).
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i liked the interview. idk why there were so many errors though lol.
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wow thats one bad ass interview, really nicely written article, gives some great insights in his carreer in gaming imo!
Loved it!!! <3 Idra & Steelseries
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I'm doing a translation to PT-BR.
:}
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On April 30 2011 08:35 flyingbangus wrote: I'm probably the only one here, but I didn't like where IdrA (or the article's writer) mentioning HD and Husky. I don't see the need to have to name names.
I've been watching HD and Husky's casts since retail, and it's actually funny coz if you listen to HD talk about IdrA, you'd think that he has a man-crush on him (well, not as bad as PsY, though ahahaha!).
I'm a proud IdrA-fanboy, and even moreso if there's in-game BM'ing. Oddly enough, this bm on HD and Husky (which I assume stems from the HDH tournament last year?) seems unnecessary IMO.
GLHF IdrA for NASL!
Look at IdrAs win rates. (hint, they are all around 65%)
Look at Husky's videos and idras win rates (hint, they are around 10-20%).
It's partially his fault people new to the scene assume idra is a dick.
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Really good interview, well written and and a good read. Thx steelseries.
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On April 30 2011 08:54 Mailing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2011 08:35 flyingbangus wrote: I'm probably the only one here, but I didn't like where IdrA (or the article's writer) mentioning HD and Husky. I don't see the need to have to name names.
I've been watching HD and Husky's casts since retail, and it's actually funny coz if you listen to HD talk about IdrA, you'd think that he has a man-crush on him (well, not as bad as PsY, though ahahaha!).
I'm a proud IdrA-fanboy, and even moreso if there's in-game BM'ing. Oddly enough, this bm on HD and Husky (which I assume stems from the HDH tournament last year?) seems unnecessary IMO.
GLHF IdrA for NASL! Look at IdrAs win rates. (hint, they are all around 65%) Look at Husky's videos and idras win rates (hint, they are around 10-20%). It's partially his fault people new to the scene assume idra is a dick. I think those video make idra popular to the new viewers hate or love. If you really want to see how much a dick idra can be i can just go read some old tl threads. ( like the one that how idra whined about his lost to a unknown chinese bw player.)
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Nice article but they had some grammar issues I think: (I would rather live in Korea than back than in the States...i dont get it?) lol maybe its just me
nice pictures too
greg field fighting
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Awesome interview! Great read. ty
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Some typos, but overall it's pretty good.
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On April 30 2011 05:55 Xapti wrote: Great article. I agree with Idra that his reputation is over-blown. Idra should be known as more of a guy who says what is on his mind, not someone who is bad mannered or a crybaby (especially that).
Well I think he should be considered bad mannered... but not a crybaby or anything to that extent. The fact that he blatantly tells some opponents that they suck is bad mannered... and personally I find it very interesting so I am not saying it as an insult... but when people call him a crybaby, QQer or whatever else... I disagree with them.
At the same time I do understand that people have seen him getting frustrated, but many pros do that while getting less attention for it because they don't have a reputation for it.
As for the article... well done!
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I don't understand why he left korea to play in the nasl when there's plenty of people that live in korea that also play in the nasl. He could be doing both gsl and nasl at the same time.
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Oh my GOD !
What and incredibly awesome read of awesomeness. I have to admit that Greg might be looking like a bad-mannered kind of person in public, but he really has some personality, since he has no shame to say what he is thinking. I think that's something to be proud of.
Thanks for posting this
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After reading the interview, my take on IdrA is a lot different... wow, after all that has happened to him before going to Korea, and while being in Korea, (I won't say anything, I won't spoil some one) I feel good for him, and I'm going to be an even bigger fan of him, he is amazing
IDRA FIGHTING!!
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I've been an IdrA fan since the BW days and this interview is one of the better ones lately. It's nice that he got a chance to talk about his reputation since it really is blown out of proportion. A lot of people who meet IdrA in person can tell that he is a chill and nice guy at times. It's just his gamer persona that he gets shit for. People can talk shit about IdrA all they want, but at least he can back it up by being a great player and one of the best Zerg players in the world. I didn't think about it too much, but it's true what he said about HD and Husky. Back in the early days, they would upload videos of IdrA losing and having IdrA bm the other player.
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This guy has the biggest personality out of anyone. The game would not be the same without him thats for sure. Great article and very well written!
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On April 30 2011 09:20 Attica wrote: I don't understand why he left korea to play in the nasl when there's plenty of people that live in korea that also play in the nasl. He could be doing both gsl and nasl at the same time.
MLG, IEM, Dreamhack, IPL, etc.
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Honest and blunt, good article.
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Idra and TLO are so precious in the SC2 scene. Best wishes to these 2!
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I <3 idra IDRA HWAITING!!!!
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At first he moved into the apartment of Nick 'Tasteless' Plott, an American StarCraft® commentator who had been commentating Pro League games. Within a week after that, Greg was set up in his own apartment .
Ouch.
Love all the random ass pictures of him staring off so deeply into the distance.
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Well done with the interview, It was very professional on all parts, thanks colbi
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Nice article, i didnt know he thought TLO was funny o.o,
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On April 30 2011 09:20 Attica wrote: I don't understand why he left korea to play in the nasl when there's plenty of people that live in korea that also play in the nasl. He could be doing both gsl and nasl at the same time. He said this in a previous interview, im paraphrasing, is that theres more chance to win money in small tourneys, than huge tourneys where the skill is really high. Basically he sees more growth in the foreign scene than korea. Im paraphrasing
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loved this article/interview, haha those pictures are pretty epic....how its all set up is so epic to xD oooo he loved the liquid guys...HuK anyone? xD
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On April 30 2011 10:59 anonmice wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2011 09:20 Attica wrote: I don't understand why he left korea to play in the nasl when there's plenty of people that live in korea that also play in the nasl. He could be doing both gsl and nasl at the same time. He said this in a previous interview, im paraphrasing, is that theres more chance to win money in small tourneys, than huge tourneys where the skill is really high. Basically he sees more growth in the foreign scene than korea. Im paraphrasing
He sees more money outside of Korea. Not anything to do with growth, that's just assumption. I'm pretty sure he and any other realistic person would see there isn't much growth to eSports outside of Korea. It's already pretty big as it is, for what it is. But right now he can make more money where the competition isn't as difficult of course.
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On April 30 2011 09:59 Mailing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2011 09:20 Attica wrote: I don't understand why he left korea to play in the nasl when there's plenty of people that live in korea that also play in the nasl. He could be doing both gsl and nasl at the same time. MLG, IEM, Dreamhack, IPL, etc.
and he has already done the korea things for years and years already
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Germany25657 Posts
very nice interview, always like these
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Interesting articles and interesting pictures haha. Love this Idra guy
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Decent interview I saw the word girlfriend somewhere and went O_O
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Great read!
Keep on going with your style, IdrA. You are, as ever, pushing the Starcraft & Esports community forward!
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Anybody else see the word Evil Genuises spelt backwards :D?
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It might be too late for Idra's reputation. As the old saying goes: "people remember the bad more than they remember the good". Idra could save children from a burning building, but he'd still probably be more famous for his outbursts.
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On April 30 2011 07:10 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +Greg doesn't sugarcoat things. In his old Michigan schoolyard, they would probably say that "he is keepin' it real". The black population in Kalamazoo is like -15%. Exactly.
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Steel series called the NASL the North American Starcraft League at the bottom of page one, lol... North American Star League, Great interview though thanks! One of the best IdrA interviews yet, a lot of great content thanks for posting!
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I've always thought Idra was a whiny little bitch... but this interview was very good and I have a new found respect for him. I'm not ready to sign up for his fan club or anything, but I thought it was a great read and find myself hoping he does well in the future.
Good job.
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Respect is viewed much differently in the East. Understand that before you think you have an unfair reputation you have made yourself. Gross.
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The little tid bit in the actual post about the rage thing is very true.
After meeting Greg in person and seeing him play and interact with people, he is nothing like what people see him as currently.
He made a great quote awhile ago as well saying "If you dont get mad when you lose, then you dont care enough"
People need to reverse this internet generated personality that really isnt what hes like.
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Total Baller. Imo, he should grow his hair back, so he looks like the total badass he is! IDRA <3
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Nice read, i hadnt realized Idra is only 21, he looks like hes in his mid 20s.
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"Then hd and husky upload it because they need an excuse to draw viewers"
Well this is probably true.
Idra feels that the pro scene is too boring and bland, so he shows some emotion.
They get uploaded on YouTube and people give him a bad wrap because those are the games they see... Of course, there's also the thing where whenever someone on the ladder beats Idra they are going to post it up because they were largely the underdog.
Coming full circle, these are the games that most people want to see (of course there are people that want to see him win :D ) but yeah, I agree this is why they get put on YouTube... They are interesting and draw viewers. Can't really blame them :D
Edit: Hah, I should also add that this is a really good interview and certainly showcases a different side of Idra (or a progamer in general) that we normally don't get to see. I hope we get to see more interviews like this in the future.
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Interesting read although the article itself was kind of poorly written. Seemed to repeat alot of stuff over and over.
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Good to see him talk about his reputation a bit more. I respect that he is a straight shooter, opinionated and gets pissed, because it reminds me of my take on life. Keep calling people out when you get pissed IdrA, it gives me something to laugh about.
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Good interview, and I really like the layout of it.
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Nice article, but the font is really bad... or does anyone like this?
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Thanks for sharing this man!
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On April 30 2011 14:00 DrShaw wrote: I've always thought Idra was a whiny little bitch... but this interview was very good and I have a new found respect for him. I'm not ready to sign up for his fan club or anything, but I thought it was a great read and find myself hoping he does well in the future.
Good job.
This.
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Great interview. When do you switch to terran again? No, just kidding. gl in the future.
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having spent quite a bit of time in Korea, I would also prefer to live here (I'm sitting in a hotel in Korea writing this ^^)
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this is maybe the best interview i have read so far...really enjoyed it! GOGO IDRA!
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he makes a fair point about husky and HD imo. Almost every Idra game that ends up on their channels has BM, or a discussion about BM. Gives people the wrong impression that he just rages all the time
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Pretty nice biography but i agree with others that the writing and editing was pretty disappointing :/
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omg an idra interview!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Hey guys, thank you for the kind words regarding the interview. If you have any feedback (I btw have no clues where the typos are from, they are definitely not in my final draft...) please send me a private message.
And sorry for that it's dated, we generally try to make these articles very generic in terms of time, but it's pretty hard to know that Greg decides to go back to the US only a few months after the interview.
On a personal note I'll have to say that Greg is one of the most easy going esport players I've ever talked to. He seems intelligent and incredibly good at reflecting upon himself and his reputation. Thumbs up, really.
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Good interview, I really agree with idra that the whole BM-story is just something people do to draw viewers and create some drama. Honestly and personality is what attracts real fans, thats why idras fanbase is the most loyal of all I think.
Go idra!
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The website looks like shit to me in both Opera and Firefox. What browser do you guys use? And why do they post an interview that you can barely read in the most common browser -.-.-.-!! but thanks
edit: looks so-so in internet explorer. the font is still annoying as hell :x
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Even though pretty much all been 'said/read' before. Interesting read, really professionally made in my eyes.
Good job. :-)
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On April 30 2011 20:25 skrillakid wrote: The website looks like shit to me in both Opera and Firefox. What browser do you guys use? And why do they post an interview that you can barely read in the most common browser -.-.-.-!! but thanks
edit: looks so-so in internet explorer. the font is still annoying as hell :x
Perfectly fine in Chrome.
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Very nice interview
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Really nice interview and i think this is even better because SC2 is bringing in a lot of new viewers everyday and many of them just watch a video on youtube about idra which is edited to have a series of BM moments of idra with some catchy music, so it's like brainwashing someone to think of BM as soon as they hear the name idra, sad but true. This interview gives a better view of his path since he started going pro. it's crystal clear that his rep is overblown. keep up the great work idra.
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Good read . Best of luck to Idra hope he competes and loves it for a long time!
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Great interview, always have been and always will be a big fan of IdrA, keep up the good work!
Also thank you for a strange but nicely written interview.
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Such a nice interview well set up and presented.
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Good start
With an economical crisis soon approaching, starting his college education seems like a no brainer.
Yes because Idra has in fact psionic powers that allow him to see the future ^^
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Nice interview. They do repeat themselves a little but I don't mind.
It's very nice to see his whole opinions not just some random cut-out BM. I agree with him when he says that the way pro gamers act is kinda boring. You can say more than a gg and still be polite
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Idra for sure is an amazing player and of course adds color to the esport scen. THough he will always be an arrogant and cocky whiner who just should learn to think before he speaks.
Just because something is true does not mean you have to say it, and when you so many times have talked trash that later on turned out to be not true its just starting to be embarassing.
But as always, there just has to be a bad guy or enemy if you call it that. People need that dark side to either love or hate!
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Awesome interview, IdrA is a boss.
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Nice interview. I find i kind of silly that he calls out HD/Husky for uploading the games where he BMs, when he definitely knows that a lot of the attention surrounding him is because of his BM. He uses it to stick out from the crowd - he's not just being frank. Take for instance the interview he did with Kingston HyperX where he out of nowhere in the last paragraph called out the players on ROOT for being terrible. He knows it sparks controversy and in turn gives him attention, more fans and in the end more revenue.
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It seems like the article was written quite some time ago
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The interview was done 6 or 7 months ago, kind of annoying to see it posted just now
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Yeah, it's pretty weird how they would let such an outdated interview get published.
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I'd just like to add that, firstly Idra is an amazing player. If this game was completely figured out (which it never will be) he would undoubtedly by one of the very best in the world. His bm doesn't really affect his games, but his negative attitude does. I'm sure some great philosopher has said something like this, if not then I'm claiming it now. There is no progress without the belief that there can be progress.
Idra has a history of complaining about other races being overpowered, and maybe they are, but believing that it is impossible to win against players of equal skill if they play that race makes it so difficult to find new strategies to beat them. Fruitdealer is a good example, at a time where nobody believed that it was possible to beat a good Terran as Zerg he found a style that worked. Personally I feel this attitude is what holds back development of strategies for all races when they are losing more, it just happens that right now and for some time, Zergs have been seen as the least powerful.
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On April 30 2011 23:08 Eufouria wrote: I'd just like to add that, firstly Idra is an amazing player. If this game was completely figured out (which it never will be) he would undoubtedly by one of the very best in the world. His bm doesn't really affect his games, but his negative attitude does. I'm sure some great philosopher has said something like this, if not then I'm claiming it now. There is no progress without the belief that there can be progress.
Idra has a history of complaining about other races being overpowered, and maybe they are, but believing that it is impossible to win against players of equal skill if they play that race makes it so difficult to find new strategies to beat them. Fruitdealer is a good example, at a time where nobody believed that it was possible to beat a good Terran as Zerg he found a style that worked. Personally I feel this attitude is what holds back development of strategies for all races when they are losing more, it just happens that right now and for some time, Zergs have been seen as the least powerful. I'm assuming you missed the part where Fruitdealer was whining about the state of his race, just like Idra always does?
It's a good example of how balance whine does not equate to someone not trying. NesTea, the other Zerg GSL champ, is on the same boat.
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Hmm I don't think it is strange that Husky and others focus on his rage because it is a part of the way Idra plays starcraft. His bad attitude loses games for him as it did already when he played Brood War.
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Very nice article. I hope IdrA wins everything in the future. He's my idol.
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Doesn't anyone realize that IdrA looks like Peter Parker from spiderman? rolf.
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Yeah nice article. Would recommended to anyone who doesn't know who IdrA is!
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Good stuff IdrA!
Keep Raging Raping!
haha honestly though excellent read well presented, I always try to catch your matches, glhf!
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Thanks for posting. I love reading stuff like this.
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Nice interview, interesting part about how Idra think about korean gamers personalities, or rather abscence of them.
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After reading this article, my respect for Idra has grown. Training in a Korean pro-house... wow! I could not dedicate myself to such a strict regime.
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I honestly don't understand why Husky even gets mentioned on TL. Let him sell his shitty shirts and provide content to youtube crowd all he wants. He's irrelevant here.
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I used to think Idra was just a guy who got annoyed too easily when losing but after reading the article he seems a bit more like a normal guy, it was kinda funny how he disrespected HD and husky :D
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On May 01 2011 00:23 devilshootsdevil wrote: I honestly don't understand why Husky even gets mentioned on TL. Let him sell his shitty shirts and provide content to youtube crowd all he wants. He's irrelevant here. Doesn't he commentate for the TSL?
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good interview, but if you put up an article as big as this, check the spelling. It's really annoying to read with too many typos D:
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On May 01 2011 00:31 Elroi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2011 00:23 devilshootsdevil wrote: I honestly don't understand why Husky even gets mentioned on TL. Let him sell his shitty shirts and provide content to youtube crowd all he wants. He's irrelevant here. Doesn't he commentate for the TSL? Yes
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Just read the article. To be honest, I'm not a fan of how it was written. The writer tried to hype different parts too much for drama, even though Idra wasn't doing that at all. Also, there were a lot of grammatical mistakes as well as incorrect pronouns and bad sentence structure.
Articles like that are still great for the community, but I wish it had been done better.
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Idra has proven time and time again he doesn't have the mindset to become a competitor. This isn't because he's rude and speaks his mind, it's because he lets his anger get in the way of his quality of play, it's very easy to tell "good idra" and "angry Idra" by just watching him play. I agree that it's very natural for players to get angry, but someone like Idra who has spent so much time training and building his life as a professional SC2 player should have definitely learned by now not to let it affect how he plays his games.
Also, it would be hilarious if he actually just went full out Firebathero on people (IE throw a bowl of rice on the ground, take off his shirt and go swimming after he wins).
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There is a mistake. It's Grack! Who are all of you to question Boxer?
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Love the way he tell his opponent about his honest views <3
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On May 01 2011 00:23 devilshootsdevil wrote: I honestly don't understand why Husky even gets mentioned on TL. Let him sell his shitty shirts and provide content to youtube crowd all he wants. He's irrelevant here.
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Agree. Sorry that you get banned
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On May 01 2011 01:06 Pfhor wrote: Idra has proven time and time again he doesn't have the mindset to become a competitor. This isn't because he's rude and speaks his mind, it's because he lets his anger get in the way of his quality of play, it's very easy to tell "good idra" and "angry Idra" by just watching him play. I agree that it's very natural for players to get angry, but someone like Idra who has spent so much time training and building his life as a professional SC2 player should have definitely learned by now not to let it affect how he plays his games.
Also, it would be hilarious if he actually just went full out Firebathero on people (IE throw a bowl of rice on the ground, take off his shirt and go swimming after he wins).
ugh, more random IdrA hate for no reason. He doesnt have the mindset to become a competitor? tell that to all his 2009 1st place wins in brood war and his RO8 GSL achievment/how hes tearing up the foreigner scene atm.
you do realize that happens to every best player right?...its called tilting, its when you feel you play pretty well and should be in a way better position than you are and you start to lose faith that you can win the match. So your saying every other player doesnt tilt??
absolutely rediculous
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Idra has always been a sore loser even through the SC/BW years. He cries and complains like a little b*tch. I remember once he kept spamming me stupid comments on how over rated 2 gate openings were.
Idra it's time to grow up. If you want to be attractive toward sponsors how about you man-up and grow some balls. Take your losses like a real man.
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On May 01 2011 01:16 dusthoof wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2011 00:23 devilshootsdevil wrote: I honestly don't understand why Husky even gets mentioned on TL. Let him sell his shitty shirts and provide content to youtube crowd all he wants. He's irrelevant here.
User was banned for this post. Agree. Sorry that you get banned 
You'd be surprised how many fans Idra has gotten from their channels.
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Interesting interview but the person who came up with the layout should be fired. And "hemosphere"? Really?
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On April 30 2011 23:12 cordlc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2011 23:08 Eufouria wrote: I'd just like to add that, firstly Idra is an amazing player. If this game was completely figured out (which it never will be) he would undoubtedly by one of the very best in the world. His bm doesn't really affect his games, but his negative attitude does. I'm sure some great philosopher has said something like this, if not then I'm claiming it now. There is no progress without the belief that there can be progress.
Idra has a history of complaining about other races being overpowered, and maybe they are, but believing that it is impossible to win against players of equal skill if they play that race makes it so difficult to find new strategies to beat them. Fruitdealer is a good example, at a time where nobody believed that it was possible to beat a good Terran as Zerg he found a style that worked. Personally I feel this attitude is what holds back development of strategies for all races when they are losing more, it just happens that right now and for some time, Zergs have been seen as the least powerful. I'm assuming you missed the part where Fruitdealer was whining about the state of his race, just like Idra always does? It's a good example of how balance whine does not equate to someone not trying. NesTea, the other Zerg GSL champ, is on the same boat. You assumed right, but I think my point still stands. Fruitdealer knew TvZ was imbalanced but he played a style that made it possible to win. A couple of times recently I've seen Idra say something along the lines of 'I'll beat x, I'll beat y, but then I'll lose to z because he plays Protoss.' I don't think that's the attitude of the person who will figure out the strategy to beat the current Protoss style, although I'm sure when someone does figure it out Idra will be one of the best at applying the new strategy.
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On May 01 2011 01:19 Dawski wrote: you do realize that happens to every best player right?...its called tilting, its when you feel you play pretty well and should be in a way better position than you are and you start to lose faith that you can win the match. So your saying every other player doesnt tilt??
Other players don't tilt nearly as much as Idra does.
Stop classifying the things I say as "Idra hate" when it's really not that simple. I do not hate Idra, I hate the fact that as incontrol said he's constantly defeating himself in tournaments. It happened in Dreamhack when he 6 pooled against MC after going toe to toe with him in the previous game, it happened in TSL when he went in completely overconfident and lost to something he should have won against, and to a lesser extent it happened in MLG when he lost to hallucinated Void Rays. This is "tilting" yes, but Idra does this almost every fucking tournament. I'm sure even HE knows that he needs to fix this mindset before he will be a winner.
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On May 01 2011 01:46 Pfhor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2011 01:19 Dawski wrote: you do realize that happens to every best player right?...its called tilting, its when you feel you play pretty well and should be in a way better position than you are and you start to lose faith that you can win the match. So your saying every other player doesnt tilt?? Other players don't tilt nearly as much as Idra does. Stop classifying the things I say as "Idra hate" when it's really not that simple. I do not hate Idra, I hate the fact that as incontrol said he's constantly defeating himself in tournaments. It happened in Dreamhack when he 6 pooled against MC after going toe to toe with him in the previous game, it happened in TSL when he went in completely overconfident and lost to something he should have won against, and to a lesser extent it happened in MLG when he lost to hallucinated Void Rays. This is "tilting" yes, but Idra does this almost every fucking tournament. I'm sure even HE knows that he needs to fix this mindset before he will be a winner. He's already a winner. Watch IPL or NASL, man. He's tearing shit up.
And that's bullshit that other players don't tilt as much as he does, you just don't notice it as much when they tilt because IdrA has a reputation for "getting angry" even though almost every single player who is good gets angry after losing. Even Sheth has said on stream that he gets emotional after losing, he just doesn't direct it outwards.
People need to stop with this amateur psychology bullshit. IdrA was in a slump, now he's not in a slump. Every player goes through that.
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its a interesting interview. I always wanted to know how it was backstage away from the game. I like how he found some company with tasteless and artosis after he lived in a house where he could not talk to anyone
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On May 01 2011 01:27 Atmosphere[CF] wrote: Idra has always been a sore loser even through the SC/BW years. He cries and complains like a little b*tch. I remember once he kept spamming me stupid comments on how over rated 2 gate openings were.
Idra it's time to grow up. If you want to be attractive toward sponsors how about you man-up and grow some balls. Take your losses like a real man.
this is kind of ironic it's an interview hosted by one of his biggest sponsor
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Great to see an interview/article about IdrA but I thought it was so terribly written that it distracted me from enjoying it. There were a lot of mistakes that would have been caught by just one single person proofreading it.
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I've really gained a bit of respect from Idra just from this interview.
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Eh, Good for someone new to IdrA I guess. But there's no new content in there for anyone who has already readd every IdrA interview ever made
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This interview was BOSS-status. But as JackOscar said, nothing really new popped up.
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no love for the translation =~
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If it wasn't for youtubers like HD and Husky bringing SC2 hundreds of thousands of new viewers his BM sorry ass would never be able to make a living off SC2 and he would still be a crappy B team member in a gaming house.
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hes been making his living for years now, even before sc2 came out...
and imo, no one really watches husky and hd anymore. its all about the nasl, gsl, iem, dreamhack, mlg, tsl, and player streams.
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He was only able to move out of Korea because of SC2. As I said, he would still be stuck on a BW B team and hating his life.
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On May 01 2011 04:52 RajaF wrote: If it wasn't for youtubers like HD and Husky bringing SC2 hundreds of thousands of new viewers his BM sorry ass would never be able to make a living off SC2 and he would still be a crappy B team member in a gaming house. No, no he wouldn't be. He would be just where he is now, one of the best sc2 pros. HD and Husky just gave people who were new to sc2 a person to hate - but before sc2, a LOT of people hated him for his BM in scbw and shit talking, even though he was the best foreigner in scbw.
If you want to hate him, at least hate him properly.
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Let me restate this. If it was not for youtube casters, SC2 would not be as popular in the western world as it is. Simple, the competitive scene would again be only based in Korea, and it would be a shitty scene at that since most koreans still watch BW.
And as for the DaggothReborn, lol at no one watches husky and HD when their most recent videos all have more viewers then the most viewed GSL / NASL / IPL / TSL3 VODs.
I don't watch them anymore, but most casual followers do. And those are the people that will ultimately dictate if SC2 will make it mainstream or not. So we should all be basically thanking the heavens for youtubers or there would be no way leagues like NASL could exist.
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If he accepted the scholarship from Rensselaer I would've met him there, talk about coincidence.
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Now that was a great interview.. Answering like a boss, and the design of the page and all was very nice.. ^^ Great read..!
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Of course Idra is a good player, but he seems a little bit arrogant to me.
Anyway i would love to play Zerg like he does. Sometimes it's pretty amazing to watch.
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I'm never quite sure whether I like or hate Idra - sometimes I think his bm is a bit too much, but after reading this interview I think he has a point about personality - it's more entertaining to watch someone like him than someone who shows no emotion. And of course, he has great macro.
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On May 01 2011 01:27 Atmosphere[CF] wrote: Idra has always been a sore loser even through the SC/BW years. He cries and complains like a little b*tch. I remember once he kept spamming me stupid comments on how over rated 2 gate openings were.
Idra it's time to grow up. If you want to be attractive toward sponsors how about you man-up and grow some balls. Take your losses like a real man. I'm not sure you understand how sponsorships work, so let me be the one to give you advice. Stop talking about things you don't understand. Thanks.
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On May 01 2011 04:52 RajaF wrote: If it wasn't for youtubers like HD and Husky bringing SC2 hundreds of thousands of new viewers his BM sorry ass would never be able to make a living off SC2 and he would still be a crappy B team member in a gaming house. I love how, just by writing that, you proves his point about the haters.. ^^
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An amazing read! definitely my favourite profesional player. This just shows that he is human like all of us and hard work and practice is what you need to be able to win.
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Anyone else notice that they reversed a couple of the pictures of him? just thought it was funny, also
In his old Michigan schoolyard, they would probably say that "he is keepin' it real
I'm sorry but that was a really funny way of putting it.
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Take note of the picture on page 7. This is the first time in history that IdrA has smiled.
Interesting article, I hope to see more like it in the future!
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as a journalism student, i aprove this D:!
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Really nice interview.
And I agree completely with what he said about Husky. A caster for gold leaguers that tries desperately to get viewers and abuse IdrA's replays to try getting some attention. It's sad, but unfortunately both casters don't have future in the SC2 commentating scene, so they have to get as many viewers in their sad channels, and that didn't help IdrA.
I really hope to see IdrA coming back to Korea thou, I feel that Korea is his place, here in US I feel that IdrA is playing against inferior players that either get lucky or cheese/abuse the hell out of the game to try beating IdrA, for example scrubs like Cruncher, a player that I personally have destroyed in the ladder numerous times managed to beat IdrA thanks to the sad state of balance. At least in Korea he will be playing players of his level and even if he gets cheesed you know you are not losing to mediocre master level players.
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On May 01 2011 05:00 RajaF wrote: Let me restate this. If it was not for youtube casters, SC2 would not be as popular in the western world as it is. Simple, the competitive scene would again be only based in Korea, and it would be a shitty scene at that since most koreans still watch BW.
And as for the DaggothReborn, lol at no one watches husky and HD when their most recent videos all have more viewers then the most viewed GSL / NASL / IPL / TSL3 VODs.
I don't watch them anymore, but most casual followers do. And those are the people that will ultimately dictate if SC2 will make it mainstream or not. So we should all be basically thanking the heavens for youtubers or there would be no way leagues like NASL could exist.
The only viewers that watch HD and Husky, specially Husky are the gold leaguers and below players, or the extremely casual players, like team-game chumps and players that spend their time playing custom games and still trying to beat the campaign.
That being said, those players are NOT the ones supporting E-sports nor SC2, those players watch the ocassional cast and are still trying to beat a 6 pool in the ladder on their daily 4v4s, they are NOT the ones that pay for a season in the GSL or NASL, nor the ones helping balance the game by playing at the highest level (600+ masters), therefore your comment is completely wrong.
Having THE BEST NA player ever, being flamed by gold leagues that watch casters for noobs like Husky, IS NOT a good trade-off. Regardless, IdrA doesn't care, nor anyone that matters, the only players that get offended by IdrA or are in this Anti-BM-IdrA crusade are exactly those same noobs that watch Husky, which leads me to believe you are one of them.
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He's such an amazing player and because of that he has a right to BM I guess... lol .. nope!
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On May 01 2011 09:30 Dopeyabyss wrote: Take note of the picture on page 7. This is the first time in history that IdrA has smiled.
Interesting article, I hope to see more like it in the future! have you forgotten about that smile when he missed artosis' high five?
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wow this looks like a professional interview. just like the one idra did for cnn. if cnn only knew how much he cusses. lol.
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I enjoyed the mirrored images as well. Really? Can't correctly place images that have names on them INCLUDING YOUR OWN COMPANY?
poor.
The rest was fine, though.
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Really agree with what he said about HD and Husky, especially Husky, he just seems to cast so many bullshit Idra games that really aren't worth watching to get cheap views.
I do think Idra is really important for the Sc2 scene, firstly because hes a very popular player who believes in solid play (which can only be a good influence on newer players) and also because his drama is very entertaining.
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Some interviews always seems like it was done more than a month or two ago.
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I just want to know. Did idra make any friends with anyone that is korean?
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Amazing article, thank for that.
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Naturally, the featured excerpt focuses on Idra's BM. There's gotta be more to him than that. :p
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On May 01 2011 12:38 Tacoss23 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2011 05:00 RajaF wrote: Let me restate this. If it was not for youtube casters, SC2 would not be as popular in the western world as it is. Simple, the competitive scene would again be only based in Korea, and it would be a shitty scene at that since most koreans still watch BW.
And as for the DaggothReborn, lol at no one watches husky and HD when their most recent videos all have more viewers then the most viewed GSL / NASL / IPL / TSL3 VODs.
I don't watch them anymore, but most casual followers do. And those are the people that will ultimately dictate if SC2 will make it mainstream or not. So we should all be basically thanking the heavens for youtubers or there would be no way leagues like NASL could exist. The only viewers that watch HD and Husky, specially Husky are the gold leaguers and below players, or the extremely casual players, like team-game chumps and players that spend their time playing custom games and still trying to beat the campaign. That being said, those players are NOT the ones supporting E-sports nor SC2, those players watch the ocassional cast and are still trying to beat a 6 pool in the ladder on their daily 4v4s, they are NOT the ones that pay for a season in the GSL or NASL, nor the ones helping balance the game by playing at the highest level (600+ masters), therefore your comment is completely wrong. Having THE BEST NA player ever, being flamed by gold leagues that watch casters for noobs like Husky, IS NOT a good trade-off. Regardless, IdrA doesn't care, nor anyone that matters, the only players that get offended by IdrA or are in this Anti-BM-IdrA crusade are exactly those same noobs that watch Husky, which leads me to believe you are one of them.
Some of this is correct however I think you're missing one very important point. The POTENTIAL for the casual fanbase of people like HD and Husky to get more competitive and hardcore with Starcraft or Esports in general is there. They undoubtedly help with the growth of sc2. Whenever Husky casted in the TSL he would post a video on youtube and more people would be watching the tsl stream than usual because of that. No one cares if gold leaguers are flaming pro's, as long as the interest and views is there it's a positive thing for everyone.
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Great content. It was a very nice read.
Constructive critisism though: That's definately too many editor's notes (I think), and it is kind of annoying (to have the context of almost every statement explained (like this (to make sure the readers understand (the message)))).
+ Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler +But then again, I've studied journalism and communication. Perhaps I'm just being elitist and everyone else is fine with this form.
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Very nice! I support IdrA!
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On May 01 2011 12:38 Tacoss23 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2011 05:00 RajaF wrote: Let me restate this. If it was not for youtube casters, SC2 would not be as popular in the western world as it is. Simple, the competitive scene would again be only based in Korea, and it would be a shitty scene at that since most koreans still watch BW.
And as for the DaggothReborn, lol at no one watches husky and HD when their most recent videos all have more viewers then the most viewed GSL / NASL / IPL / TSL3 VODs.
I don't watch them anymore, but most casual followers do. And those are the people that will ultimately dictate if SC2 will make it mainstream or not. So we should all be basically thanking the heavens for youtubers or there would be no way leagues like NASL could exist. The only viewers that watch HD and Husky, specially Husky are the gold leaguers and below players, or the extremely casual players, like team-game chumps and players that spend their time playing custom games and still trying to beat the campaign. That being said, those players are NOT the ones supporting E-sports nor SC2, those players watch the ocassional cast and are still trying to beat a 6 pool in the ladder on their daily 4v4s, they are NOT the ones that pay for a season in the GSL or NASL, nor the ones helping balance the game by playing at the highest level (600+ masters), therefore your comment is completely wrong.
So... how should pepole who are completely casual start watching SC2, in your opinion?
I started watching SC2 with Husky and HD (I don't ever watch them now though), and many more pepole who now watch GSL/NASL etc etc did so as well.
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On April 30 2011 08:18 Eufouria wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2011 07:48 ghrur wrote: Wow, Idra's was going to RPI to study physics on a scholarship? Dang, that is legit! I'm not that surprised though. I don't mean to offend anyone, I've got offers on the table to study physics next year, but us physicists are probably the most easy to stereotype nerds and its not a big step to imagine Idra applying to study physics. He's right when he says his bm slightly blown out of proportion. I think a lot of people can respect him for speaking his mind, personally I would trust somebodies opinion more if they always spoke their mind instead of never wanting to hurt anybodies feeling (not that that's bad, a happy medium is probably best). My problem with Idra is sometimes he speaks his mind unnecessary. if you're answering questions about other players then its fine to speak your mind about them, but he sometimes just insults people during interviews when its not really related to the question. I can't think of when it was, but there was some interview on stage at MLG Dallas where he insulted Huk before he'd even been asked about him, and its not the only time he's done something like that.
Yeah that kind of goes back to him being at the far end of speaking his mind, instead of a happy medium. He thought "Huk is bad", so he said it. There you go.
I guarantee you many progamers think in similar ways, but they just restrain themselves. At times that is good, but I wish other players would show some personality. For almost every player I watch, all I know about them is their play, a couple of photos, and maybe some pre or post game close up reactions. IdrA is a very defined human being though, and that's so much more enjoyable as a spectator. Feels like you are rooting for someone instead of just the race you play or the builds some player always does.
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On May 01 2011 15:10 ilmman wrote: I just want to know. Did idra make any friends with anyone that is korean? i think that he is friends with EffOrt + Show Spoiler + i say that just from what i've seen not sure tho
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He looks so bad ass in those pics, like a cool guy you can see yourself hanging out with. I still feel pretty sad he left the Terran race for Zerg D;
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good write up by steeleseries
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Awesome article, It's good to see Idra's honest perspective on his stay in korea.
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On May 01 2011 18:24 RageBot wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2011 12:38 Tacoss23 wrote:On May 01 2011 05:00 RajaF wrote: Let me restate this. If it was not for youtube casters, SC2 would not be as popular in the western world as it is. Simple, the competitive scene would again be only based in Korea, and it would be a shitty scene at that since most koreans still watch BW.
And as for the DaggothReborn, lol at no one watches husky and HD when their most recent videos all have more viewers then the most viewed GSL / NASL / IPL / TSL3 VODs.
I don't watch them anymore, but most casual followers do. And those are the people that will ultimately dictate if SC2 will make it mainstream or not. So we should all be basically thanking the heavens for youtubers or there would be no way leagues like NASL could exist. The only viewers that watch HD and Husky, specially Husky are the gold leaguers and below players, or the extremely casual players, like team-game chumps and players that spend their time playing custom games and still trying to beat the campaign. That being said, those players are NOT the ones supporting E-sports nor SC2, those players watch the ocassional cast and are still trying to beat a 6 pool in the ladder on their daily 4v4s, they are NOT the ones that pay for a season in the GSL or NASL, nor the ones helping balance the game by playing at the highest level (600+ masters), therefore your comment is completely wrong. So... how should pepole who are completely casual start watching SC2, in your opinion? I started watching SC2 with Husky and HD (I don't ever watch them now though), and many more pepole who now watch GSL/NASL etc etc did so as well.
Yeah, I'm in the same boat.
Though I think if HD improved his game knowledge he would be a very good caster, he has the proper voice for it.
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lol what's with all the pictures of idra squinting at the sun?
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Great article. Interesting to see a little bit more of his personal life. Liked the layout, too.
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Awesome to see Greg laying it all out on the table for this fan's and haters to see the personal side of him.Fantastic Article!!
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On May 01 2011 12:38 Tacoss23 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2011 05:00 RajaF wrote: Let me restate this. If it was not for youtube casters, SC2 would not be as popular in the western world as it is. Simple, the competitive scene would again be only based in Korea, and it would be a shitty scene at that since most koreans still watch BW.
And as for the DaggothReborn, lol at no one watches husky and HD when their most recent videos all have more viewers then the most viewed GSL / NASL / IPL / TSL3 VODs.
I don't watch them anymore, but most casual followers do. And those are the people that will ultimately dictate if SC2 will make it mainstream or not. So we should all be basically thanking the heavens for youtubers or there would be no way leagues like NASL could exist. The only viewers that watch HD and Husky, specially Husky are the gold leaguers and below players, or the extremely casual players, like team-game chumps and players that spend their time playing custom games and still trying to beat the campaign. That being said, those players are NOT the ones supporting E-sports nor SC2, those players watch the ocassional cast and are still trying to beat a 6 pool in the ladder on their daily 4v4s, they are NOT the ones that pay for a season in the GSL or NASL, nor the ones helping balance the game by playing at the highest level (600+ masters), therefore your comment is completely wrong. Having THE BEST NA player ever, being flamed by gold leagues that watch casters for noobs like Husky, IS NOT a good trade-off. Regardless, IdrA doesn't care, nor anyone that matters, the only players that get offended by IdrA or are in this Anti-BM-IdrA crusade are exactly those same noobs that watch Husky, which leads me to believe you are one of them.
I watch HD, Husky and Totalbiscuit's commentaries quite frequently. Sure, they are not GM-level players, but in terms of casting a game, they all do a solid job of catching the majority of the action and timings.
Since you decided to come here and flame these people with your fifth post ever on TL, would you mind also sharing your enlightened knowledge in terms of casters who are superior to the aforementioned "noobs?"
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im a fan of idra. i wasnt before untill i actually started to wtach his games and why he was getting bad mannered. i hope he goes a long way in the future and looked upon in NA as MC is in korea.
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"I mean, I do get mad when I lose games, and occasionally when I lose in a particular stupid fashion - like the games versus Masq or Silver or whatever, I will tell my opponents what I think of them."
Its funny he mentioned his games vs masq and silver. Because I just felt something wrong with it and went back to watch them. Him losing those matches in that 'particular stupid fashion' was all of his own fault, and yet he was the one that insulted those two players in the first place. I don't understand how his thoughts on BMing improves the 'personality' as a character could be achieved logically, and thinking it impacts his reputation in a positive way makes even less sense. In addition, how anyone accepts this argument and can become a fan of him as a result is beyond me.
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Really cool article; i like the layout and presentation nice to get to know IdrA a little more; pretty cool that NaDa came up to him and said "long time no see" haha - i could think if a lot of people that would pay for that to happen to them :p
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Amazing interview, he really isn't as bad as people think he is. If you watch his live stream, he will say Gl hf and what not. One of my favorite players by far.
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"Koreans have no personalty and its borring" Idra being a dick and complaining is probably why people can't take this game to become as big it is around the world as it is in korea. Professionalism is important to the growth of eSports and swearing and being a jerk will not get them to be millionaires any time soon.
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On May 02 2011 19:38 ilmman wrote: "Koreans have no personalty and its borring" Idra being a dick and complaining is probably why people can't take this game to become as big it is around the world as it is in korea. Professionalism is important to the growth of eSports and swearing and being a jerk will not get them to be millionaires any time soon.
I hate to bring sports into this, but what about Football? Both European and American, they have their "BM" people, and it makes it all the more interesting.
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Interesting layout, I liked it. Great article.. good questions, good length.
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i really don't know why he blames HD and HUSKY for bloating his reputation because almost every game involving questionable strategies or skill gets followed up by some form of chat
from his stream playing against deezer i think:
IdrA: it's hilarious how much better than you i must be in order to win
or vs Drewbie
IdrA: kid plays so bad and has the guts to say LOL
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On May 01 2011 12:16 Tacoss23 wrote: Really nice interview.
And I agree completely with what he said about Husky. A caster for gold leaguers that tries desperately to get viewers and abuse IdrA's replays to try getting some attention. It's sad, but unfortunately both casters don't have future in the SC2 commentating scene, so they have to get as many viewers in their sad channels, and that didn't help IdrA.
I really hope to see IdrA coming back to Korea thou, I feel that Korea is his place, here in US I feel that IdrA is playing against inferior players that either get lucky or cheese/abuse the hell out of the game to try beating IdrA, for example scrubs like Cruncher, a player that I personally have destroyed in the ladder numerous times managed to beat IdrA thanks to the sad state of balance. At least in Korea he will be playing players of his level and even if he gets cheesed you know you are not losing to mediocre master level players.
I find it funny that you say both casters don't have a future in sc2 as they cast the TSL and IPL. I wouldn't even know who idra is or what sc2 is if it weren't for those casters. You act like their 400K+ subscriber base is some insignificant number of scrubs that don't deserve to even look at a computer with sc2 installed on it. Great attitude for growing esports.
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On May 02 2011 19:51 Seam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 19:38 ilmman wrote: "Koreans have no personalty and its borring" Idra being a dick and complaining is probably why people can't take this game to become as big it is around the world as it is in korea. Professionalism is important to the growth of eSports and swearing and being a jerk will not get them to be millionaires any time soon. I hate to bring sports into this, but what about Football? Both European and American, they have their "BM" people, and it makes it all the more interesting.
and the majority of them just respect their opponents in play. StarCraft 2 is small compared to "football" and if idra is to represent what StarCraft 2 is (yes he is one of the best western players and people will look up to him as a star), then it may give off the wrong message for the growth.
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On May 02 2011 19:51 Seam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 19:38 ilmman wrote: "Koreans have no personalty and its borring" Idra being a dick and complaining is probably why people can't take this game to become as big it is around the world as it is in korea. Professionalism is important to the growth of eSports and swearing and being a jerk will not get them to be millionaires any time soon. I hate to bring sports into this, but what about Football? Both European and American, they have their "BM" people, and it makes it all the more interesting.
I think think its fair to directly compare mainstream sports with esports. So to bring those mediums into context, I think the attraction of football and hockey, while there are jerks and players that lack sportsmanship, is the drama between the players and the games. The players that are ill mannered will always be disliked and hated by watchers, and eventually brought to elimination from the scene.
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thanks colbi, love reading about idra, especially when its from him directly <3
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Very interesting interview, now I got confused at the korean then then part but other then that it was very good.
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Pretty good! IdrA is underrated :-o
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nice interview. idra fighting!
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Good interview, if a bit outdated? Does he really want to be in Korea still? Also, flipped images with text on the shirt look a little unprofessional IMO.
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