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EG.IdrA interviewed by SteelSeries - Page 13

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Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
May 01 2011 15:44 GMT
#241
good write up by steeleseries
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bjornkavist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1235 Posts
May 01 2011 15:53 GMT
#242
Awesome article, It's good to see Idra's honest perspective on his stay in korea.
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LastLordofCastamere
Profile Joined February 2011
288 Posts
May 01 2011 16:52 GMT
#243
On May 01 2011 18:24 RageBot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 12:38 Tacoss23 wrote:
On May 01 2011 05:00 RajaF wrote:
Let me restate this. If it was not for youtube casters, SC2 would not be as popular in the western world as it is. Simple, the competitive scene would again be only based in Korea, and it would be a shitty scene at that since most koreans still watch BW.

And as for the DaggothReborn, lol at no one watches husky and HD when their most recent videos all have more viewers then the most viewed GSL / NASL / IPL / TSL3 VODs.

I don't watch them anymore, but most casual followers do. And those are the people that will ultimately dictate if SC2 will make it mainstream or not. So we should all be basically thanking the heavens for youtubers or there would be no way leagues like NASL could exist.


The only viewers that watch HD and Husky, specially Husky are the gold leaguers and below players, or the extremely casual players, like team-game chumps and players that spend their time playing custom games and still trying to beat the campaign.

That being said, those players are NOT the ones supporting E-sports nor SC2, those players watch the ocassional cast and are still trying to beat a 6 pool in the ladder on their daily 4v4s, they are NOT the ones that pay for a season in the GSL or NASL, nor the ones helping balance the game by playing at the highest level (600+ masters), therefore your comment is completely wrong.


So... how should pepole who are completely casual start watching SC2, in your opinion?

I started watching SC2 with Husky and HD (I don't ever watch them now though), and many more pepole who now watch GSL/NASL etc etc did so as well.



Yeah, I'm in the same boat.

Though I think if HD improved his game knowledge he would be a very good caster, he has the proper voice for it.
"And who are you", the proud lord said "That I must bow so low?"
entlassen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States139 Posts
May 01 2011 19:43 GMT
#244
lol what's with all the pictures of idra squinting at the sun?
TripleCow
Profile Joined February 2011
United States240 Posts
May 01 2011 20:46 GMT
#245
Great article. Interesting to see a little bit more of his personal life. Liked the layout, too.
Tyler: "I only needed one probe to take down IdrA. I had to upgrade to a zealot for Strelok."
Hydro
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada153 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 21:10:04
May 01 2011 21:09 GMT
#246
Awesome to see Greg laying it all out on the table for this fan's and haters to see the personal side of him.Fantastic Article!!
Shaithis
Profile Joined March 2010
United States383 Posts
May 01 2011 21:52 GMT
#247
On May 01 2011 12:38 Tacoss23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 05:00 RajaF wrote:
Let me restate this. If it was not for youtube casters, SC2 would not be as popular in the western world as it is. Simple, the competitive scene would again be only based in Korea, and it would be a shitty scene at that since most koreans still watch BW.

And as for the DaggothReborn, lol at no one watches husky and HD when their most recent videos all have more viewers then the most viewed GSL / NASL / IPL / TSL3 VODs.

I don't watch them anymore, but most casual followers do. And those are the people that will ultimately dictate if SC2 will make it mainstream or not. So we should all be basically thanking the heavens for youtubers or there would be no way leagues like NASL could exist.


The only viewers that watch HD and Husky, specially Husky are the gold leaguers and below players, or the extremely casual players, like team-game chumps and players that spend their time playing custom games and still trying to beat the campaign.

That being said, those players are NOT the ones supporting E-sports nor SC2, those players watch the ocassional cast and are still trying to beat a 6 pool in the ladder on their daily 4v4s, they are NOT the ones that pay for a season in the GSL or NASL, nor the ones helping balance the game by playing at the highest level (600+ masters), therefore your comment is completely wrong.

Having THE BEST NA player ever, being flamed by gold leagues that watch casters for noobs like Husky, IS NOT a good trade-off. Regardless, IdrA doesn't care, nor anyone that matters, the only players that get offended by IdrA or are in this Anti-BM-IdrA crusade are exactly those same noobs that watch Husky, which leads me to believe you are one of them.


I watch HD, Husky and Totalbiscuit's commentaries quite frequently. Sure, they are not GM-level players, but in terms of casting a game, they all do a solid job of catching the majority of the action and timings.

Since you decided to come here and flame these people with your fifth post ever on TL, would you mind also sharing your enlightened knowledge in terms of casters who are superior to the aforementioned "noobs?"
IronHide007
Profile Joined April 2011
11 Posts
May 01 2011 22:20 GMT
#248
im a fan of idra. i wasnt before untill i actually started to wtach his games and why he was getting bad mannered. i hope he goes a long way in the future and looked upon in NA as MC is in korea.
PSdualwielder
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada77 Posts
May 01 2011 22:50 GMT
#249
"I mean, I do get mad when I lose games, and occasionally when I lose in a particular stupid fashion - like the games versus Masq or Silver or whatever, I will tell my opponents what I think of them."

Its funny he mentioned his games vs masq and silver. Because I just felt something wrong with it and went back to watch them. Him losing those matches in that 'particular stupid fashion' was all of his own fault, and yet he was the one that insulted those two players in the first place. I don't understand how his thoughts on BMing improves the 'personality' as a character could be achieved logically, and thinking it impacts his reputation in a positive way makes even less sense. In addition, how anyone accepts this argument and can become a fan of him as a result is beyond me.
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bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
May 01 2011 22:56 GMT
#250
Really cool article; i like the layout and presentation nice to get to know IdrA a little more; pretty cool that NaDa came up to him and said "long time no see" haha - i could think if a lot of people that would pay for that to happen to them :p
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TerrorMachine
Profile Joined March 2011
United States10 Posts
May 02 2011 04:31 GMT
#251
Amazing interview, he really isn't as bad as people think he is. If you watch his live stream, he will say Gl hf and what not. One of my favorite players by far.
ilmman
Profile Joined September 2010
364 Posts
May 02 2011 10:38 GMT
#252
"Koreans have no personalty and its borring" Idra being a dick and complaining is probably why people can't take this game to become as big it is around the world as it is in korea. Professionalism is important to the growth of eSports and swearing and being a jerk will not get them to be millionaires any time soon.
Seam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
May 02 2011 10:51 GMT
#253
On May 02 2011 19:38 ilmman wrote:
"Koreans have no personalty and its borring" Idra being a dick and complaining is probably why people can't take this game to become as big it is around the world as it is in korea. Professionalism is important to the growth of eSports and swearing and being a jerk will not get them to be millionaires any time soon.


I hate to bring sports into this, but what about Football? Both European and American, they have their "BM" people, and it makes it all the more interesting.
I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok. - Liquid`Tyler
blackodd
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden451 Posts
May 02 2011 11:58 GMT
#254
Interesting layout, I liked it. Great article.. good questions, good length.
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Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
May 02 2011 12:56 GMT
#255
i really don't know why he blames HD and HUSKY for bloating his reputation because almost every game involving questionable strategies or skill gets followed up by some form of chat

from his stream playing against deezer i think:

IdrA: it's hilarious how much better than you i must be in order to win

or vs Drewbie

IdrA: kid plays so bad and has the guts to say LOL
If you like brood war, please go play brood war and stop whining about SC2
Glam
Profile Joined September 2010
United States325 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 18:53:05
May 02 2011 18:51 GMT
#256
On May 01 2011 12:16 Tacoss23 wrote:
Really nice interview.

And I agree completely with what he said about Husky. A caster for gold leaguers that tries desperately to get viewers and abuse IdrA's replays to try getting some attention. It's sad, but unfortunately both casters don't have future in the SC2 commentating scene, so they have to get as many viewers in their sad channels, and that didn't help IdrA.

I really hope to see IdrA coming back to Korea thou, I feel that Korea is his place, here in US I feel that IdrA is playing against inferior players that either get lucky or cheese/abuse the hell out of the game to try beating IdrA, for example scrubs like Cruncher, a player that I personally have destroyed in the ladder numerous times managed to beat IdrA thanks to the sad state of balance. At least in Korea he will be playing players of his level and even if he gets cheesed you know you are not losing to mediocre master level players.


I find it funny that you say both casters don't have a future in sc2 as they cast the TSL and IPL. I wouldn't even know who idra is or what sc2 is if it weren't for those casters. You act like their 400K+ subscriber base is some insignificant number of scrubs that don't deserve to even look at a computer with sc2 installed on it. Great attitude for growing esports.
ilmman
Profile Joined September 2010
364 Posts
May 03 2011 00:45 GMT
#257
On May 02 2011 19:51 Seam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 19:38 ilmman wrote:
"Koreans have no personalty and its borring" Idra being a dick and complaining is probably why people can't take this game to become as big it is around the world as it is in korea. Professionalism is important to the growth of eSports and swearing and being a jerk will not get them to be millionaires any time soon.


I hate to bring sports into this, but what about Football? Both European and American, they have their "BM" people, and it makes it all the more interesting.


and the majority of them just respect their opponents in play. StarCraft 2 is small compared to "football" and if idra is to represent what StarCraft 2 is (yes he is one of the best western players and people will look up to him as a star), then it may give off the wrong message for the growth.
PSdualwielder
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada77 Posts
May 03 2011 01:12 GMT
#258
On May 02 2011 19:51 Seam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 19:38 ilmman wrote:
"Koreans have no personalty and its borring" Idra being a dick and complaining is probably why people can't take this game to become as big it is around the world as it is in korea. Professionalism is important to the growth of eSports and swearing and being a jerk will not get them to be millionaires any time soon.


I hate to bring sports into this, but what about Football? Both European and American, they have their "BM" people, and it makes it all the more interesting.


I think think its fair to directly compare mainstream sports with esports. So to bring those mediums into context, I think the attraction of football and hockey, while there are jerks and players that lack sportsmanship, is the drama between the players and the games. The players that are ill mannered will always be disliked and hated by watchers, and eventually brought to elimination from the scene.
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L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 03 2011 01:15 GMT
#259
thanks colbi, love reading about idra, especially when its from him directly <3
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Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 04:20:59
May 03 2011 04:20 GMT
#260
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