Hello everyone, It's Jacob "Evil Geniuses LzGaMeR" Winstead here, everytime I stream I get asked to always post a replay pack.. So Guess What?? I finally did!
I didn't go through all of the replays and made sure I had the best of my replays, So if there's a bad game in there.. Don't hate on me to much haha. I did throw some of my MLG practice games / Ladder games in the replay pack.
There will be plenty reps of my new build *3 fact tvp* aswell as really high level games vs. players like.. Machine, CatZ, Incontrol, Axslav, Strifecro, Kiwikaki and many many more!
Hope you guys enjoy!!
Be sure to leave any questions or comment you have about the replay pack.
thank you! guys BEWARE don't click the "Click here to start download..." link at the right side of the page. that will prompt you to download an exe, the correct download link is at the bottom of the page where it says "Regular download"
On April 16 2011 01:28 Pokebunny wrote: lol @ combat. One time I killed him w/ 2 rax pressure after he told me he was gonna own me, then asked if I proxied a 3rd rax.
Hey Lz awesome 3 fact build, I noticed avilo used the same style (i think he opened slightly differently) in his series showmatch v tqstate. Did you guys collaborate?
What openings did you have trouble with against toss? I see it being pretty tricky against 3gate stargate (could hit around the time your defense is just marines I think), if the toss is smart with his voids.
On April 16 2011 02:22 takkatakka wrote: Hey Lz awesome 3 fact build, I noticed avilo used the same style (i think he opened slightly differently) in his series showmatch v tqstate. Did you guys collaborate?
What openings did you have trouble with against toss? I see it being pretty tricky against 3gate stargate (could hit around the time your defense is just marines I think), if the toss is smart with his voids.
we did not collaborate, but we do both play mech style alot vs. protoss.. I havnt had really much problems vs. void rays becasue i have a fast reactor so my marine count is healthy.. also if they open 3 gate voidray i can just go 2 fact 1 starport instead of 3 fact.
Do you have any replays against: - very fast early pressure (e.g. zealot stalker [stalker] poke) - 3gate blink stalker - 4gate - DT rush - heavy pheonix midgame (especially with 1-2 gate + stargate openers) - heavy warp prism harass
I'm just curious about the robustness of the build since most of your opponents played relatively passively in the early game
Thanks so much for releasing a replay pack! I've been collecting your replays through other means because I do like your builds they are pretty refreshing.
I wanted to get your thoughts on your 3 factory reactored rax build. I'm sure you've refined this build many times so I may be missing something. It seems like there are many times where you cut marine production because until you get the double mules you can support the all the production facilities.
Would it make more sense when putting the reactor up to the factory just use the one on the rax instead? Since you can't really have constant marine production from a reactored rax anyways? Or are you thinking that you MAY need the ability to burst out marines?
Also I believe from MLG Dallas there are some replays from optikzero beating the 3 factory build (for those who are asking)
On April 16 2011 03:15 Moja wrote: Do you have any replays against: - very fast early pressure (e.g. zealot stalker [stalker] poke) - 3gate blink stalker - 4gate - DT rush - heavy pheonix midgame (especially with 1-2 gate + stargate openers) - heavy warp prism harass
I'm just curious about the robustness of the build since most of your opponents played relatively passively in the early game
1) Bunker with repair stop all rushes. 2) Turrets are the obvious answer to warp-prism, phoenix, and DT 3) He has a replay against Blink. Nothing to fear. 4)Against Heavy Phoenix, make a Thor.
Pretty obvious. Like my Spanish teach says, "Use tu cabeza muchacho"
I do have tons of replays doing the build.. vs. all sorts of stuff (these are just the cherry's on top)
The reason I dont switch the 3rd factory with the reactored rax-- is becasue Alot of the time when an obs see's what im doing they go (A. Void ray or Pheonix) or (B. Tripods of death) and to counter both of those you will need marines or what i prefer.. make a starport and switch with the rax.
Protoss 1 base play - just dont do any timing attack, you had an expo up for alot longer just skip blue flame and go siege first and move cc out 3 bunk your natural while just using siege tanks to defend. You will be miles and miles ahead.
dt rush - turret? if you dont lose to dt's at the start then you will auto win becasue 2 orbitals and they wasted all there gas on teching/building dt's so there army is zealot heavy
fast pheonix - just thor/hellion/marine instead of tank hellion-- while building a turret in your minaral line as you get ready to move out. (pheonix gives me the most problems out of any protoss opener)
*Note* I do lose with this build from time to time.. But it is a really nice opening build to have in your arsenal ! !
Going to see what this badboy offers, I haven't really seen too much of LzGamer, All i know is once i went on his stream, and he went for some fast expand build 3 times and got 3 times owned by some zerg bling busting starting with Ei or something
Anyway, no disrespect gamer is obviously a high caliber player, looking to see what this replay brings
lol.. I have lost to people way worse then suggy with the build.. and I have beat ppl way better then suggy using the build.. It's just another build so we dont have to watch the same thing every game mass bio viking vs. protoss deathball.
without looking at the youtube.. I already knew it was the game I could not get a read on what he was doing and he showed up with mass voids and caught me out of Position.
I get coaching from LZ, and he is very informative. I recommend getting a few hours with him if you like his style. My TvP is actually my strongest matchup after our coaching. Having mech as an option after thinking it totally sucked was really cool.
This is Suggy beating your build - and talking a little bit of shi*t about it Don't shoot the messenger
Lol. Watch the video before posting or learn what Lz's build consists of. That was not Lz's 3 Fact Build. That was just passive Mech. Lz's has a Timing-push at 10 mins with a crap ton of BlueHellions, Bunch of Marines, and Tanks.
On April 18 2011 01:03 Froadac wrote: Question What would you consider the strongest/most standard build you do TvZ that is in that reppack?
i dont honestly remember all the reps thats in the pack... a 1 rax FE is my most standard opening build tvz.
Thanks. I'm too wimp to do your hellion builds in TvT, The TvP one has given me great success. (Except for against one gate FE: probably need to push faster.
Froadac- Yes the build is hard countered by 1 gate FE... but, there is hope!! the same opening you normally do 1 marine reactor CC, there is a timing attack from that nonstop pump marines get 2 facts asap after your cc and attack with marines and a 2 hellion rally (no add-on's on the facts) and also send about 8 scv's with the attack and toss is forced to pull probes.. but we have hellions.. GG!
I'm trying to learn one build per matchup Right now I'm high diamond (which means absolutely shit, I know lol) Would you have any other recommendations?
On April 19 2011 06:34 grush57 wrote: Someone help plz. I opend the file with starcraft2, it open it up, i login, but idk where to go from there.
You can just find the Zip file and open the replays from there, it should automatically let you open the file with the Blizzard Launcher (although if you haven't done it before you might have to select it in more options or whatever.. I'm not too sure).
On April 22 2011 02:44 Lz wrote: Tell me what you guys think of the new rep-pack ^_^ (especially the thor/hellion/ghost build I have been working on)
Hey Lz, I have a question concerning your 3 Fact. TvP build on Meta against Axlav. At the end it seemed like you had some money stockpiling, esspacially gas. How can you transition out of this build? Maybe switching one Factory with a Starport and put a techlab on Factory instead? Or building an Armory, Banshees, Battlecruisers :D?
3 Fact with 2 Reactors + Reactored Rax seem also a bit mineralheavy for your 4 geysers.
I like the build in general though, you have decent early force, good harressing opportunities with Hellions, many Scvs and good tech :A
On April 22 2011 02:44 Lz wrote: Tell me what you guys think of the new rep-pack ^_^ (especially the thor/hellion/ghost build I have been working on)
Hey Lz, I have a question concerning your 3 Fact. TvP build on Meta against Axlav. At the end it seemed like you had some money stockpiling, esspacially gas. How can you transition out of this build? Maybe switching one Factory with a Starport and put a techlab on Factory instead? Or building an Armory, Banshees, Battlecruisers :D?
3 Fact with 2 Reactors + Reactored Rax seem also a bit mineralheavy for your 4 geysers.
I like the build in general though, you have decent early force, good harressing opportunities with Hellions, many Scvs and good tech :A
Just died to Banshees in TvT. Pretty much no chance with the marines I had
On April 22 2011 02:44 Lz wrote: Tell me what you guys think of the new rep-pack ^_^ (especially the thor/hellion/ghost build I have been working on)
I was looking for something like this for a while. By chance i watched your stream for the first time, and i caught that build, and i remember i thought - This is really, really strong.
Main aspect is that composition is so strong that can deal with anything zerg throws at you. In most other builds, u do something (like tank/marine) and if you see infestors, you then throw ghost academy, or if you see BL you start viking production asap. Main problem with this is zerg can tech switch real easy, from BL to Ultras (or muta - > infestor), so you end up with bunch of worthless units.
But with your build you really dont care what is he going, you have answer to everything. You can adjust a ratio of units a little bit if it is needed, but basically its always the same thing.
Just a question, assuming the timing push does a relatively even trade, but no probes are killed; What would be the best way of transitioning past that if scouting colossus tech?
Hey LZ, what are you policies on replays being casted by like Ahnaris, Day[9], or Husky? They should cast some of these (especially Day[9]; he's great at analysis).
On May 06 2011 04:21 benzensulfonic wrote: Hey LZ, what are you policies on replays being casted by like Ahnaris, Day[9], or Husky? They should cast some of these (especially Day[9]; he's great at analysis).
anyone can cast these reps or w/e they want to use them for... there for the community!!
I watched some of your replays and tried it against Toss and Zerg. I think it also works against Zerg wonders. The key is to spread/micro your marines and keep em alive while you push out at first time (for mutas which could pop out just right now).
Against Toss i think this strategy needs to dmg the eco at your first "fight" at around 9-11 minutes (or you destroy your enemys armys completely) or he will just counterpush and you loose against mass stalkers because of your high hellion and marine, but low tank numbers. Just my opinion after ~8 try outs.
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