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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-15 04:04:16
April 15 2011 04:02 GMT
#161
More like, the less you know about the situation the more absurd your comments will come off.

It was blatantly obvious what MC was doing and why he was doing it.

You have to mix up your builds in a Bo5. Then there are guys like BoxeR who can knock out players like YellOw doing bunker rushes. He's BoxeR for a reason.
Eko200
Profile Joined December 2010
United States101 Posts
April 15 2011 04:03 GMT
#162
Got stuck in Turkey so he had time to slap around the haters.
x-Catalyst
Profile Joined August 2010
United States921 Posts
April 15 2011 04:03 GMT
#163
On April 15 2011 10:24 luftrofl wrote:
I really don't like cocky people and I certainly don't find it interesting to watch MC play but he shouldn't be receiving all of this bs - MC won and was the better player. Get over it.

Haters gonna hate

I feel the same way. I'm not a big fan of MC because he is really cocky/over-confident and some of the things he says comes of as rude and bm. But he is an extremely good player and doesn't deserve all the hate towards him. I'm sure if a lot of people were put in his position, they would do the same.
FatkiddsLag
Profile Joined May 2010
United States413 Posts
April 15 2011 04:03 GMT
#164
thats defiantly more than 160 characters.
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
April 15 2011 04:03 GMT
#165
I hope it gets back to MC that most of us don't think ill of him for using valid strategies, if anything we hate the game, no the player.

Maybe if Jinro or HuK reads this they'll pass it on.
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
LynxSeba
Profile Joined May 2010
Spain85 Posts
April 15 2011 04:04 GMT
#166
I think at the end is like this, mc won the tournament but if you ask me who was the better player overall the tournament White Ra takes that price.
Sensator
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia377 Posts
April 15 2011 04:05 GMT
#167
I don't understand why everyone bm'd MC so hard. I think everyone is just butthurt because they get cheesed on ladder
Ganjamaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Argentina475 Posts
April 15 2011 04:05 GMT
#168
Haters gonna hate, MC is a boss, oGs FTW!
My hoes be the thickest, my dro.. the stickiest
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
April 15 2011 04:05 GMT
#169
On April 15 2011 13:04 LynxSeba wrote:
I think at the end is like this, mc won the tournament but if you ask me who was the better player overall the tournament White Ra takes that price.



I'd love to hear your explanation on how MC won and white ra didn't but somehow white ra is better?

Nice contradiction.
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
April 15 2011 04:05 GMT
#170
On April 15 2011 13:04 LynxSeba wrote:
I think at the end is like this, mc won the tournament but if you ask me who was the better player overall the tournament White Ra takes that price.


MC won more games and lost less game, combined AND in direct series with white-ra.

The question of who was the better player needs no argument. It's a sport. The better team is the one that wins.
SooYoung-Noona!
CidO
Profile Joined June 2010
United States695 Posts
April 15 2011 04:06 GMT
#171
Was it cheese? Yes
Was it fun to watch? No
Was it the sign of a very good player? Yes

MC gathered data from all 4 games and knew WR would be weak in the early game due to previous builds, thus he executed a strategy that would blow him out the water, and it did.

For that it is fun to watch someone pick another player apart by playstyle.
:P
Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
April 15 2011 04:06 GMT
#172
Jaedong 4 pools, Flash bunker rushes, Bisu 2 gates. Cheese is not the absence of skill (though sometimes it is). Cheese if properly timed is a good choice.
I like money. You like money too? We should hang out.
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
April 15 2011 04:07 GMT
#173
For people saying that MC is being overly sensitive about this, the guy apparently cares about his image and he's actively listening to what foreign fans say about him. I don't see how that is a negative to be honest.

If he overreacted with needless insults like "YOU NOOBS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M DOING. I'M 1000 TIME BETTERS THAN YOU SO STFU ABOUT CHEESE OR WHATEVER", then yea I would be calling him an immature kid who can't take criticism, but that is not MC has done here. He merely gave rational reasons behind his strategies for people who didn't understand or refused to understand his proxy gate.
MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-15 04:21:11
April 15 2011 04:12 GMT
#174
I was not aware that foreign fans were bashing MC about this until he twitted about it. I did go through the forum on battle.net and found some irrational scrubs repeating "that cheese is for newbs and that cheese abuses the trust between pro gamers and thus MC is a newb", those who criticize or hating on MC atm really have no good reason to, and if they do, they are as narrow-minded as the most extreme conservative creationists that you can't convince them even if Whitera or Socrates himself went up to them and told them otherwise.

In fact, to me, MC has simply shown me how strategically adaptive he is, truly a man of virtu (Machiavellian term for effective power/manliness,etc), and in starcraft, a man's game of manliness, strategic dominance and executions of those strategies is the only thing that matters, morals and respect do exist, they exist between the hearts of the top players, but there is no 'moral' way of playing starcraft, if exploitation is the key to victory, then it in the game-sense, it's the right thing to do and the heroic and truly manly thing to do.

For that, MC deserves his title "God Protoss/ Krato Protoss"
MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
April 15 2011 04:14 GMT
#175
On April 15 2011 13:04 LynxSeba wrote:
I think at the end is like this, mc won the tournament but if you ask me who was the better player overall the tournament White Ra takes that price.


I saw the match, I didn't feel that whitera was the better player, mechanically, i think both players were about even, strategically MC won over and thus MC to me was the better player.
DuneBug
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-15 04:15:03
April 15 2011 04:14 GMT
#176
On April 15 2011 13:03 Bear4188 wrote:
I hope it gets back to MC that most of us don't think ill of him for using valid strategies, if anything we hate the game, no the player.

Maybe if Jinro or HuK reads this they'll pass it on.


Seriously.
I kind of respect him for proxy 2gating.
It takes some enormous balls to do that when 15K is on the line.

Plus, white ra scouted an area on the map which players could not spawn in, as that map was fixed to cross positions only. Imagine if his probe had gotten there 1 minute sooner, wouldn't have been quite the walkover, maybe enough time to get a forge up?

I loved white ra's play in that series, but MC did take advantage of his lack of an early zealot. Anyone flaming MC is uneducated. Does anyone really think MC was like 'oh yeah i cant handle another game with this guy, i better go all in on a cheese.'
TIME TO SAY GOODNIGHT BRO!
jdreamer
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia296 Posts
April 15 2011 04:15 GMT
#177
Haters are lame. MC was the better player! GO FIGHTING MC!!!!!
My life for Aiur!
Prophecy3
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada223 Posts
April 15 2011 04:17 GMT
#178
I'd like to see some of the PvP games of these critics of MCs -near godlike- play and decision making, because if they can prove they're making snap judgments at the same level as MC, I think then you could criticize the win. But hey you're the progamer right? Not just 54 master, Right?

Just sayin'..
Ignorance is Bliss? Indifferance is Atrocity.
425kid
Profile Joined March 2011
416 Posts
April 15 2011 04:17 GMT
#179
MC owns souls
MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
April 15 2011 04:18 GMT
#180
On April 15 2011 13:03 x-Catalyst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 10:24 luftrofl wrote:
I really don't like cocky people and I certainly don't find it interesting to watch MC play but he shouldn't be receiving all of this bs - MC won and was the better player. Get over it.

Haters gonna hate

I feel the same way. I'm not a big fan of MC because he is really cocky/over-confident and some of the things he says comes of as rude and bm. But he is an extremely good player and doesn't deserve all the hate towards him. I'm sure if a lot of people were put in his position, they would do the same.


I think you have take his cockiness/over-confidence for what he is trying to extrude them for, objectively they reflect his skills and dominance, and secondly it is part of this showmanship that is aimed at entertaining fans as well as an external and internal conditioning to give himself self-belief as well as a strategic move to perhaps dominate his opponents mentally before the match even starts, just as Artosis always says "the fear of the banshee", in SC2, MC is perpectually trying to impose the "fear of the MC".

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