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truthless
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden120 Posts
April 29 2011 10:48 GMT
#1701
The sound has improved a lot since I made my last post. Good job! I guess it's possible (or even likely) that the 1080p low-fps issue is computer-related for me, as others have commented on it being smooth for them. I'm getting a new comp next week so I'll get back to you on that. Still, having lower-quality vods available (720p at least) would probably be nice for those who don't have the option of buying a new computer
He who adds is to be revered. I am he who takes away.
space_yes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States548 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 11:02:59
April 29 2011 11:00 GMT
#1702
On April 29 2011 19:05 Zandar wrote:
About the t-shirt+ blazer, yes it looks weird.

There are 2 options imo.

1) Dress like a gamer dresses, jeans, t-shirt, hoody, etc
2) Dress like ordinary tv hosts, with a blazer.

But not this weird hybrid mix.


And my personal opinion:

NASL is a front of a gaming community, making you role models for gaming kids. So why wouldn't you be a proud gamer nerd and dress like one instead of a lawyer. Ditch the blazer.

I work at a casual gaming company and everyone here wears casual clothes, even the management wear jeans when customers are around, who also don't wear a suit. It's quite common in IT and creative jobs to just wear what you want. Look at the blizzard devs for example...

I have friends and family working as accountants and sales persons and they always have to dress up properly.
I'm so happy I don't live in that parallel universe where people are more often judged by the clothes they are wearing and the price of their car and watch, than by their skills or who they are.

Please don't get a fashion advisor and let fashion dictate how you should look, stay close to who you are.


Uh plenty of people wear t-shirts and blazers; I really wouldn't call it a "weird hybrid." The whole blazer + trendy t-shirt thing has been common for years now. Maybe you've heard of a company called Urban Outfitters? Just sayin'...

And serious LOL @ wearing a blazer = dressing like a lawyer.

Regardless, who gives a fuck what incontrol and gretorp are wearing anyway. Next people will be complaining about their haircuts. Shit is getting ridiculous.


Apocalyte
Profile Joined November 2010
United States13 Posts
April 29 2011 11:47 GMT
#1703
On April 29 2011 20:00 space_yes wrote:
Regardless, who gives a fuck what incontrol and gretorp are wearing anyway. Next people will be complaining about their haircuts. Shit is getting ridiculous.


Okay you said it way better than I did. *bow*
I'm the man in the box.
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 12:08:41
April 29 2011 11:56 GMT
#1704
On April 29 2011 20:00 space_yes wrote:

Regardless, who gives a fuck what incontrol and gretorp are wearing anyway. Next people will be complaining about their haircuts. Shit is getting ridiculous.



Because image and impression are important when you want to promote something. Even though it isn't the main course here, but it doesn't hurt to be more appealing.
Leenock the Punisher
Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
April 29 2011 11:56 GMT
#1705
The show has gotten more fun to watch because you 2 (Geoff and Andre) look to be having more fun and are goofing around more. I hope you continue this as it really shows.

Sound still needs improvement but everyone and their mother has said this. I would like to see something in the backround, everything is so black on the show, there is plenty of SC art around, and you could even make a fan submit competition to design something that looked cool, credited them for it and gave the....something? Just an idea.
★ Top Gun ★
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12118 Posts
April 29 2011 12:06 GMT
#1706
Do European re-airing one hour earlier in the evening. As it is I can't watch the end of it due to needing to go to sleep. :/
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 12:15:25
April 29 2011 12:15 GMT
#1707
Yeah, the european broadcast starts at 18h30 (6:30 pm). With the initial 30mn talk, that makes the games end at about midnight. I feel one hour or even one and half hour early would be better.
Khz
Profile Joined March 2011
126 Posts
April 29 2011 12:36 GMT
#1708
Probably already been mentioned several times but I just don't find the group play that exciting due to the massive amount of games. Of course it's awesome we are getting so much good content but personally I'd prefer if there were a bit less matches in the groupstage. Trying to find the time to follow GSL and NASL just seems impossible right now. Other than that, keep up the good work!
JinRohCommando
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland11 Posts
April 29 2011 12:53 GMT
#1709
Get better casters, I literally fell asleep while watching NASL. They are jsut boreing and the only thing they are talking about, is what im already seeing on the freaking screen. Rly poor casting, not watching NASL anymore.
It's a joke, it's all a joke... lord fogive me..
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 13:15:32
April 29 2011 13:15 GMT
#1710
Watched NASL on wendesday after skipping the majority of last week.
Seems most of technical problems are fixed (fps issues and audio). So I actually enjoyed NASL for the first time and will watch more (and I found the rainbow vs TLO casting very funny :D)
Now you have a solid ground for a solid product.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 13:19:28
April 29 2011 13:18 GMT
#1711
On April 29 2011 20:00 space_yes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2011 19:05 Zandar wrote:
About the t-shirt+ blazer, yes it looks weird.

There are 2 options imo.

1) Dress like a gamer dresses, jeans, t-shirt, hoody, etc
2) Dress like ordinary tv hosts, with a blazer.

But not this weird hybrid mix.


And my personal opinion:

NASL is a front of a gaming community, making you role models for gaming kids. So why wouldn't you be a proud gamer nerd and dress like one instead of a lawyer. Ditch the blazer.

I work at a casual gaming company and everyone here wears casual clothes, even the management wear jeans when customers are around, who also don't wear a suit. It's quite common in IT and creative jobs to just wear what you want. Look at the blizzard devs for example...

I have friends and family working as accountants and sales persons and they always have to dress up properly.
I'm so happy I don't live in that parallel universe where people are more often judged by the clothes they are wearing and the price of their car and watch, than by their skills or who they are.

Please don't get a fashion advisor and let fashion dictate how you should look, stay close to who you are.


Uh plenty of people wear t-shirts and blazers; I really wouldn't call it a "weird hybrid." The whole blazer + trendy t-shirt thing has been common for years now. Maybe you've heard of a company called Urban Outfitters? Just sayin'...

And serious LOL @ wearing a blazer = dressing like a lawyer.

Regardless, who gives a fuck what incontrol and gretorp are wearing anyway. Next people will be complaining about their haircuts. Shit is getting ridiculous.




Hey, you've got to admit they looked pretty silly when they both had fauxhawks. That hair needed to be criticized!

On April 29 2011 21:53 JinRohCommando wrote:
Get better casters, I literally fell asleep while watching NASL. They are jsut boreing and the only thing they are talking about, is what im already seeing on the freaking screen. Rly poor casting, not watching NASL anymore.


Huh? Were you watching the IPL by mistake? Barring a few of the Khaldor casts NASL casters spend a great deal of time dissecting strategy and builds.
elsrickle
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada53 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 14:25:37
April 29 2011 14:09 GMT
#1712
Please get the sound centered, every time I tune it it's in a different place (far left, right of center, far right).

Also, the individual match vods sometimes start partway through a game, this should not be happening (See White-ra vs Cruncher for an example)

Edit: There's a permanent ad taking up screen space, I thought subscribers weren't supposed to see any ads?
Pred8oar
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany281 Posts
April 29 2011 14:14 GMT
#1713
Dont take no names next time while excluding well known pros due to minor issues.
Shai
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada806 Posts
April 29 2011 14:28 GMT
#1714
Though I accept people will interperet this as trolling, I have one serious suggestion for the improvement of the NASL. Drop Incontroll as a part of the operation.

I don't particularily care one way or the other for his casting, or appearance, or anything of that sort. However, as a human being with the failing of being judgemental, it is difficult for me to support a league with someone who is this unprofessional consistantly representing you on these forums, on his podcasts, etc, etc.

There is nothing wrong with his attitude when it comes to being a player. Indeed, its interesting to have three-dimensional players, some being manner, others being less so. It adds a different level of interest to the game (I'm a big fan of FBH). However, having Incontrol represent you on these forums, whether he's doing it officially or not, is reflecting very poorly on your tournament. He reacts like an adolescant. He's definitely not impartial. He's only apologetic in a sarcastic, last effort kind of way.

None of these are failings of his as a human or gamer, but as someone who represents something that is supposed to seem professional, and especially a tournament that he, himself is competing in, it just reflects very poorly on your organization.

Now I know I'll get a lot of "but he started it all," and fair enough, I'm sure he did. But if he could be mature about this and realize that the best thing he can do for it is let it go, it would be beneficial to the tournament and community.

I found myself cheering against incontrol last night, and realized it wasn't because I disliked him as a gamer, but because I disliked him as an organizational rep. Please allow me to enjoy both him as a gamer and the NASL as a tournament and just go your separate ways.

PS. Regardless of the tone of this post, I accept that others disagree with me. I also accept that my opinion alone isn't sufficient to actually cause a change on this level. I'm merely offering my personal, honest opinion. Flame away.
Eagerly awaiting Techies.
Tofugrinder
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria899 Posts
April 29 2011 14:39 GMT
#1715
On April 29 2011 21:06 Yurie wrote:
Do European re-airing one hour earlier in the evening. As it is I can't watch the end of it due to needing to go to sleep. :/

most europeans have to work. so one hour earlier means less watchers in the start. and nasl normally ends ab 11pm anyway, so I dont know that would be too late for the normal nasl watchers
Le BucheRON
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada619 Posts
April 29 2011 14:48 GMT
#1716
A humble suggestion
The person who was framing Gretorp in the camera last night needs to zoom in a bit (balancing the positive and negative space), and frame him so that his face in on the upper third line. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thirds
The center of the screen is the least dynamic, and isn't where someone's face should be.
This just buggs me slightly because of my videography/photography background.

Otherwise the casts were great!
Guess who`s special?!
purecarnagge
Profile Joined August 2010
719 Posts
April 29 2011 14:50 GMT
#1717
I won't watch the NASL unless Idra is playing...so yeah.. go Idra

User was temp banned for this post.
delo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States333 Posts
April 29 2011 14:54 GMT
#1718
On April 29 2011 23:28 Shai wrote:
Though I accept people will interperet this as trolling, I have one serious suggestion for the improvement of the NASL. Drop Incontroll as a part of the operation.

I don't particularily care one way or the other for his casting, or appearance, or anything of that sort. However, as a human being with the failing of being judgemental, it is difficult for me to support a league with someone who is this unprofessional consistantly representing you on these forums, on his podcasts, etc, etc.

There is nothing wrong with his attitude when it comes to being a player. Indeed, its interesting to have three-dimensional players, some being manner, others being less so. It adds a different level of interest to the game (I'm a big fan of FBH). However, having Incontrol represent you on these forums, whether he's doing it officially or not, is reflecting very poorly on your tournament. He reacts like an adolescant. He's definitely not impartial. He's only apologetic in a sarcastic, last effort kind of way.

None of these are failings of his as a human or gamer, but as someone who represents something that is supposed to seem professional, and especially a tournament that he, himself is competing in, it just reflects very poorly on your organization.

Now I know I'll get a lot of "but he started it all," and fair enough, I'm sure he did. But if he could be mature about this and realize that the best thing he can do for it is let it go, it would be beneficial to the tournament and community.

I found myself cheering against incontrol last night, and realized it wasn't because I disliked him as a gamer, but because I disliked him as an organizational rep. Please allow me to enjoy both him as a gamer and the NASL as a tournament and just go your separate ways.

PS. Regardless of the tone of this post, I accept that others disagree with me. I also accept that my opinion alone isn't sufficient to actually cause a change on this level. I'm merely offering my personal, honest opinion. Flame away.

I couldn't disagree more. In fact, I often wish Geoff was more like the Geoff of old, before people started getting on him about bias/professionalism/etc. To me, at least, it's more appealing. I've been laughing my ass off at he and Gretorp's casts these past few broadcasts -- seems like they're loosening up a lot more and forging an identity for NASL that's completely awesome, IMO.

To each their own, of course. <3 Incontorp
Silkath
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom102 Posts
April 29 2011 14:56 GMT
#1719
On April 29 2011 23:39 Tofugrinder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2011 21:06 Yurie wrote:
Do European re-airing one hour earlier in the evening. As it is I can't watch the end of it due to needing to go to sleep. :/

most europeans have to work. so one hour earlier means less watchers in the start. and nasl normally ends ab 11pm anyway, so I dont know that would be too late for the normal nasl watchers


Would be tough for anyone in the UK with a job if they moved it an hour earlier. I'd love it to be an hour later actually, but I can understand our Eastern European cousins wouldn't like that much.
We sit together, the mountain and I, until only the mountain remains
Joementum
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 15:05:55
April 29 2011 14:56 GMT
#1720
On April 29 2011 19:48 truthless wrote:
The sound has improved a lot since I made my last post. Good job! I guess it's possible (or even likely) that the 1080p low-fps issue is computer-related for me, as others have commented on it being smooth for them. I'm getting a new comp next week so I'll get back to you on that. Still, having lower-quality vods available (720p at least) would probably be nice for those who don't have the option of buying a new computer


I doubt it is your computer. I'm running an i5-760 w/ a GTX460 and I still have FPS related issues. Every type of video runs smoothly on my computer except NASL vods. It has actually gotten much, much worse lately. The sound has gotten better though. I'll have to see if it's jtv related before I start yelling at the NASL. I haven't watched and jtv vods other than the NASL, yet.

You guys also need different blazers. I wouldn't really call what you guys wear a blazer to be honest. It just doesn't look like it would go right with jeans. There are many different blazers out there. You guys just have to find the one that goes well with t-shirts.

The last thing I'm going to say is there needs to be less matches. Please change the way the tournament runs for next season. With all the tournaments that have been sucking me in lately, I've had less and less time to watch SC2. 3 months to crown one person is just too much. At first, I was all "shit yeah!" but now I'm all like, "can we get to the RO32 already?



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