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eNtitY~
Profile Joined January 2007
United States1293 Posts
April 24 2011 04:19 GMT
#1381
Casting was very laid back and boring in the today it seems.
http://www.starcraftdream.com
Nem0
Profile Joined October 2010
United States134 Posts
April 24 2011 04:21 GMT
#1382
The Incontrol Mirror that happens sometimes inbetween match-ups is creepy as hell.

Anyone else know what I'm talking about, the mirrored Incontrol looking to the side then bobbing his head for a few seconds.

Also, cut Gretorp
FoxyMayhem
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
624 Posts
April 24 2011 04:41 GMT
#1383
I loved today's show. The casters were loose, natural. Maybe need to get more exciting, but NASL really did a nice job.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 04:48:21
April 24 2011 04:43 GMT
#1384
On April 24 2011 13:19 eNtitY~ wrote:
Casting was very laid back and boring in the today it seems.


I feel like the casters just can't find the right balance of how to cast. I'm not sure if it's the lack of chemistry or what but something isn't clicking. Maybe having the mildly bombastic and sharp personality of Incontrol paired with (i'm sorry to say) the pretty lifeless personality of Gretorp just doesn't work.

It's really gotten to the point where it's obvious the casters just arent very good, at least with each other. I guess they can "get better"... but really, it would be in the NASLs best interest to just get better casters for future seasons.

Edit: I almsot feel bad for them too because i bet they are very conscious of the fact that the sound quality / levels are bad too. Must be hard to chose how loud or excited to be half the time.
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
April 24 2011 04:48 GMT
#1385
I feel like the casters just can't find the right balance of how to cast. I'm not sure if it's the lack of chemistry or what but something isn't clicking. Maybe having the mildly bombastic and sharp personality of Incontrol paired with (i'm sorry to say) the pretty lifeless personality of Gretorp just doesn't work.


personally I think as long as the technical aspects are okay casting quality will not prevent THAT many people from watching the show. to be sure, when they are bullshitting (which all casters do) they do not have the entertainment of tastosis etc... they sound kind of forced and being something they are not, maybe they lack chemistry with each other maybe it is just their skills. I could listen to tastosis bullshit for hours because of how natural it sounds, like you are in a room with your buddies talking about irrelevant shit.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 04:51:33
April 24 2011 04:50 GMT
#1386
On April 24 2011 13:48 Duravi wrote:
Show nested quote +
I feel like the casters just can't find the right balance of how to cast. I'm not sure if it's the lack of chemistry or what but something isn't clicking. Maybe having the mildly bombastic and sharp personality of Incontrol paired with (i'm sorry to say) the pretty lifeless personality of Gretorp just doesn't work.


personally I think as long as the technical aspects are okay casting quality will not prevent THAT many people from watching the show. to be sure, when they are bullshitting (which all casters do) they do not have the entertainment of tastosis etc... they sound kind of forced and being something they are not, maybe they lack chemistry with each other maybe it is just their skills. I could listen to tastosis bullshit for hours because of how natural it sounds, like you are in a room with your buddies talking about irrelevant shit.


Yeah, i feel like they can't build on top of what each other is saying and create a dialogue. Interactions between the two seem to hit a brick wall half the time, just sputter out, or have Gretorp just make some gutterous heaving sound, which i assume is a laugh.
RedDragon571
Profile Joined March 2011
United States633 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 04:53:22
April 24 2011 04:52 GMT
#1387
1. I can see the door that used to be behind, where you guys cast as long and also all the bumps on the wall and bad paint job. You guys could cast in front of a poster wall with the Starcraft 2 or NASL logo. Would look ALOT better! Makes it look very unprofessional.
2. Fix your sound! Sometimes your voices are too loud compared to the game sound or not loud enough, is Helen Keller your sound technician?
3. Add post and pre game graphics with stats and other info, including player pictures, segments with pieces from interviews.
4. It's sad to see such a disparity between prize money and production quality, you guys can do better.
5. Look to TSL and IPL, you should have all the same things as them and more!
Clow
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Brazil880 Posts
April 24 2011 04:53 GMT
#1388
The lag issue was gone for me today, could watch 1080p all night no lag. I think the only thing that comes to mind now is the sound issue.

I think the casting is amazing imo, you guys are getting better and better, and I'm always laughing/having a good time. I think most of those saying the casting is bad are just really day9/husky fanboys and are never gonna be satisfied.

Keep improving guys, and I'll keep watching.
(–_–) CJ Entusman #33
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 06:03:50
April 24 2011 06:03 GMT
#1389
I think there's something off about the set-up they have for the casters.

It's a black background with a grey logo, behind black monitors, with a black desk, with casters wearing black blazers. I think it would help to mix it up a little.

Also, it might be an audio thing or maybe it's just the acoustics in the room they cast in, but it sounds like they're in a hollow box.
Two82
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway11 Posts
April 24 2011 06:27 GMT
#1390
Jtv is terrible, watched TSL with 50k other viewers highest quality np.. NASL i can barely make it work with 2 lowest qualities. VOD's takes waay to long preloading before ya can watch it smoothly. Gotten kinda used to the casting, but most of the time isnt exactly entertaining and they dont seem to keep things fresh, other casters tend to put alittle more of themselfs out there and not to scared if they make alittle fun of themself during the boring moments.
The production is pretty bad, but i mostly just wanna watch the games tho, GSL i enjoy the casters entertainment allmost as much as the games themself. Day9, Dj Wheat, those are pretty fun guys to listen to. Gretorp doesnt quite look or sound sober most of the time lol.
Not that 25$ is alot of money, just dont think this was worth the hazzle of writing up my cred card details for.
Two82
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway11 Posts
April 24 2011 06:49 GMT
#1391
Btw, are there any penalities for division bottoms? Ie last guy in each division gets thrown out and new guy in? Or will it be same 50 ppl for 3 seasons?
MorNin
Profile Joined June 2010
United States443 Posts
April 24 2011 06:55 GMT
#1392
On April 24 2011 13:52 RedDragon571 wrote:
1. I can see the door that used to be behind, where you guys cast as long and also all the bumps on the wall and bad paint job. You guys could cast in front of a poster wall with the Starcraft 2 or NASL logo. Would look ALOT better! Makes it look very unprofessional.
2. Fix your sound! Sometimes your voices are too loud compared to the game sound or not loud enough, is Helen Keller your sound technician?
3. Add post and pre game graphics with stats and other info, including player pictures, segments with pieces from interviews.
4. It's sad to see such a disparity between prize money and production quality, you guys can do better.
5. Look to TSL and IPL, you should have all the same things as them and more!


You cant compare NASL to the IPL.. IPL had such a long time to get the fancy graphics, its casted off replays, not in studio, one caster.... and if you google you can even find out the winner...
Metalfire
Profile Joined June 2010
United States8 Posts
April 24 2011 07:06 GMT
#1393
Get different casters, Incontrol has told jokes and had bad manners that made me turn the stream off out of sheer principle, also Gretorp almost never adds anything to the match, he just says "oh there is barracks in X players main.
Boredom is a necessity for insanity.
foen
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands111 Posts
April 24 2011 09:58 GMT
#1394
Remove comments at the VOD section, it always spoils.
Bizarro252
Profile Joined January 2011
180 Posts
April 24 2011 22:20 GMT
#1395
Please, please PLEASE fix your sound, there almost needs to be a whole thread started about this ONE issue as it makes your show annoying/almost impossible to watch.

I know it takes time but its been a while now and I know myself as well as many others paid you, put that money to work on this issue asap please!!!! The whitera vs sjow match the other day.... wanted to watch....had to turn it off, sound was so bad...
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
April 24 2011 22:23 GMT
#1396
I want to see some more personality in the casting. It seems like Gretorp and iNcontroL are holding back too much.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
April 25 2011 01:07 GMT
#1397
label the 30 minutes before actual broadcast of games as pre-game

I think people are going to remain stupid and never know the actual broadcast of games and proceed to bitch about it.
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
April 25 2011 01:07 GMT
#1398
I think gretorp might be suffering from the same issue as tasteless back in the day, he is the obs camera (as far as i can tell) and is casting at the same time. As soon as tasteless had the shackles removed his was a different caster.

Overall though, I have seen improvement in every cast, the quality of the stream and encoding are near perfect now and the casting duo are beginning to find their feet together, remember that tastosis took alot of flack at the beginning of GSL about not being serious enough and bad analysis, but that has all gone away now as they have found their groove.

If gretorp can just cast, and not have to be the cameraman too, he will be great, he is usually very entertaining on his own stream.
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
Mystogun
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States392 Posts
April 25 2011 01:11 GMT
#1399
I would love for replays to be released.. maybe after the finals?
"What I'm sayin' is that there are known knowns and there are known unknowns, but there's also unknown unknowns, things that we don't know we don't know." | SC2: NoiSe.730 | LoL: Galladiator
ckd
Profile Joined November 2010
36 Posts
April 25 2011 02:00 GMT
#1400
Please get rid of the music that was recently added, or at least during the casts. Maybe put it up during intermission when there is no talking, however it does not work at all as background music for while incontrol and gretorp are speaking.
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