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Chowman
Profile Joined March 2011
18 Posts
April 13 2011 02:37 GMT
#61
Get better casters.

User was warned for this post
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 02:39:32
April 13 2011 02:38 GMT
#62
On April 13 2011 11:33 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 11:26 Baarn wrote:
If I were NASL I'd ignore the nitpicking going on in this thread.

Nitpicking or not, there are some valid points in there and it would be foolish to ignore them just because of the rapidity of their emergence.


I don't see anything valid or worth worrying about yet. Sorry, no offense.
There's no S in KT. :P
Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
April 13 2011 02:39 GMT
#63
Need way better background graphics... they are too bland I think. Not sure who did them but I dont feel they are too refined.. maybe I am picky being a graphic designer =/
TwoCents
Profile Joined August 2010
Andorra3 Posts
April 13 2011 02:40 GMT
#64
wow incontrol is such a piece of shit commentator
so fucking biased i dunno if anyone heard him talking about artosis lol
calling him old qqing picking him picking best race etc. protoss rofl this guy so unprofessional its unbelievable

User was banned for this post.
Queer as folk
ExileStrife
Profile Joined February 2009
United States170 Posts
April 13 2011 02:40 GMT
#65
They ABSOLUTELY need a dedicated observer. They're both spending too much time observing their own things and they're losing synergy and synchronization because of it.

I'd like Incontrol to be more positive. A bias is perfectly fine and interesting, but instead of focusing on one player's mistakes, he could instead be talking about how the other player is taking advantage of those mistakes. Game 3 of Moon v Grubby was a great game to watch, but Inc was dismayed after-wards which completely drains the hype. Just imagine what a BW Starleague caster would have done after that amazing comeback. It certainly wouldn't involve saying it's time to go lay down.
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
April 13 2011 02:43 GMT
#66
On April 13 2011 10:36 archflames wrote:
1.- No ingame music. The music gives a nice atmosphere while watching the matches.
2.- No 3D portraits
3.- No score display
4.- Better microphone quality for the casters
5.- More hype! (maybe music while they're talking)
6.- Avoid showing the lobby screen. (some like to see the pre-game chat like me but i guess some people don't)
7.- Instead of doing player profiles in one big batch at the start, put them inbetween sets
8.- Justin.tv logo is over the stats tabs (when stream is not in fullscreen)
9.- Put an observer in there so the commentators can focus on commentating. (i don't know if this is already how they're doing it)
10.- Disproportionate focus on some of the players activity.
11.- Improve editing all around. Obvious cuts between banter/into game.
12.- Stream is too bright for some people. (lighting on the casters too)

1 - please don't
2 - who cares?
3 - yep
4 - yep
5 - more hype = more talking before the games and that was waayyyyyyyyy too much already. Hype also reminds me of the HUGE HEADLINES of your basic tabloid newspaper and thus it is like artificial and exaggerated drama ... which is bad.
6 - who cares?
7 - who cares? Americans are too much in love with their statistics ...
8 - hmmm ... if you mean the LIVE logo you might want to stop moving your mouse over the screen
9 - even the GSL had to work on their observing, I would think they know this kinda obvious thing.
10 - but but but you wanted more hype ...
11 - everyone is allowed to improve
12 - no idea

The only thing I have to add for improvement is: Skip / reduce the stupid hype (player facts) before the games ... you will be boring people before long if you repeat yourself every week with the same stupid stuff (I think everyone KNOWS TLO is creative and somewhat unpredictable ...).
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
brobear
Profile Joined January 2010
United States101 Posts
April 13 2011 02:44 GMT
#67
Honestly, I've enjoyed TSL much more than the NASL...

And TSL doesn't even show the commentators.

I think NASL can take a lot of pointers from TSL and GSL.

Better Mic's.

Music ingame please... I want to hear the Terran theme, and I want to be in the zone if I'm watching a tourney.

Commentators aren't top of the notch (just personal preference, I guess)
They did a poor job hyping up the matches, and the pregame talk was WAY TOO LONG. booooring.
Ushio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada868 Posts
April 13 2011 02:46 GMT
#68
Its not live... -_-
http://myanimelist.net/profile/billng
2WeaK
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada550 Posts
April 13 2011 02:46 GMT
#69
On April 13 2011 11:16 Drxz wrote:
To be honest, if you could "replay (not vod)" at a time conveniant to SEA/KR you might get alot more viewers purely through that however this may make it conflict with GSL's.

I do not know why but I dislike viewing vods but LOVE watching live, to the point where if its not live I would rather read a battle report than watch the VOD.

but this is probably just me being picky. I have yet to watch any of it but I might just buy a ticket to watch my fav players tear it up.



VODs to me are annoying simply because I'm impatient, I like to skip through boring parts and it kills it for me... But that's my own problem. ;P


To go back on topic, observers would be nice especially (imo) if the casters also follow the observer's screen instead of having their own screen so we don't actually see what they're commentating on.
Automata
Profile Joined March 2011
393 Posts
April 13 2011 02:51 GMT
#70
I'm not ready to throw Gretorp under the bus right(let's give the guy a chance to improve after just one night) now but I strongly hope he can improve his casting. I feel Incontrol is the better of the two and basically is carrying the two. Maybe ditch the fake excitement like others in the thread said and maybe they can try practice casting and putting vods on youtube for comments? I have high hopes of NASL and it would suck if it got dragged down by poor casting.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14040 Posts
April 13 2011 02:52 GMT
#71
I was told they where gona have a lockdown on lag and this didn't happen :/
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
ScarletKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States691 Posts
April 13 2011 02:57 GMT
#72
Wow, lots of negativity in this thread.

Do people not remember how bad Tastosis was in the beginning of GSL? Or how bad the observer was when he first starting observing for Tasteless? Or how bad the GSL stream was at first?

Dreamhack set the bar high, and I feel with time the NASL will get there. This is up before the first day is even over, and in my honest opinion that astonishes me. Does no one have patience? Does everyone want everything right now and if it's not perfect then fuck you?

Calm down. Give it time. Give Incontrol and Gretorp time. Give the NASL time.

Patience is a virtue, and people don't seem to remember this.

That being said, things they can fix in the now and not over time:

- Music. Too quiet, either in game music or music inbetween games. Something.
- Cast brightness. For some reason it seems like the gamma is too high, maybe it's just be.

Everything else has been great so far and has lived up to the hype. Great games, and good luck NASL.
Looks like I picked the wrong week the quit sniffing glue
Nevy
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada169 Posts
April 13 2011 02:58 GMT
#73
not having the games spoiled would be good.
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
April 13 2011 02:59 GMT
#74
On April 13 2011 11:39 Noxie wrote:
Need way better background graphics... they are too bland I think. Not sure who did them but I dont feel they are too refined.. maybe I am picky being a graphic designer =/


You're definitely a picky graphic designer. <3 (I thought they looked pretty good tbh, and I'm the guy with no graphic design experience so my opinion beats yours )
Life is Good.
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
April 13 2011 03:00 GMT
#75
only issue I see so far is Gretorp's mic volume. he needs to turn that down. Dont stop the excitement, just control the mic..

Get some kinda compressor mic.
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
Bibwak
Profile Joined September 2010
19 Posts
April 13 2011 03:00 GMT
#76
They need limiters/compressors to fix the levels and make sound good when the casters are talking loud or yelling.
awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
April 13 2011 03:01 GMT
#77
As much as I liked looking at the lost units resources tab for 10 minutes, I would have liked to have seen the production tab more
Riyomori
Profile Joined July 2009
Singapore316 Posts
April 13 2011 03:01 GMT
#78
To those who are complaining about casters its their first time you need to give them time man. Considering its the first day ever for NASL I think it's really good compared to other more seasoned competitions eg.MLG and they can only improve from here
rtclark
Profile Joined May 2010
United States26 Posts
April 13 2011 03:01 GMT
#79
And also, can we please drop the t-shirt and jacket thing? It looks like shit.
dLKnighT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada735 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 03:03:06
April 13 2011 03:02 GMT
#80
On April 13 2011 11:40 TwoCents wrote:
wow incontrol is such a piece of shit commentator
so fucking biased i dunno if anyone heard him talking about artosis lol
calling him old qqing picking him picking best race etc. protoss rofl this guy so unprofessional its unbelievable


And you show immeasurable class.


On April 13 2011 12:01 rtclark wrote:
And also, can we please drop the t-shirt and jacket thing? It looks like shit.


Tastosis also do it, yet I've never heard ONE person say anything about it.
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