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Zerum
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden348 Posts
March 31 2011 23:58 GMT
#101
On April 01 2011 08:03 entlassen wrote:
hmm let's see, he's a smoker who defends his smoking habits and claims it's not affecting his body or health. gee, sounds like the vast majority of smokers out there.

the "talking too much from casting, not from smoking" excuse that tasteless gave last month is BS and nothing but an excuse from a smoker who's in heavy denial (like most smokers are).

consider the following:

1) Tasteless took a very, very long break between BW casting and SC2 casting. yet the first thing people noticed on Day 1 of GSL Open Season 1 was how shitty his voice had become. he had been unemployed and not actively casting for months and months, so surely his voice would have had the proper rest. instead it got worse. i wonder what could possibly have caused it?

2) Pull up a VOD of that GSL Day 1 cast (back on September 4th). Compare it to a recent VOD. has his voice gotten worse in those 7 months of active casting? no. voice degradation from too much talking is clearly not the issue. of course talking that much can't help, but it's clearly not the primary factor at work here.

What you haven't consider is that he also did allot of voice over work in Korea besides casting starcraft and I assume that what his job was between his BW casting and SC2 casting.
snapski
Profile Joined January 2011
Croatia70 Posts
April 01 2011 00:01 GMT
#102
Smoking weed or cig? :0
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CodECleaR
Profile Joined November 2010
United States395 Posts
April 01 2011 00:02 GMT
#103
On April 01 2011 09:01 snapski wrote:
Smoking weed or cig? :0


I'm curious.
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Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
April 01 2011 00:03 GMT
#104
Voices traveling from Korea to anywhere else in the world through the internet get distorted a bit. It's called the KR-phenomenon. No one knows why, there are some theories about the Earth's magnetic field affecting the signal but I don't buy it.
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leser
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia239 Posts
April 01 2011 00:03 GMT
#105
smoking for 4 years would change his voice much less than full time casting for 4 years.
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MavercK
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
April 01 2011 00:05 GMT
#106
he said on gom live he doesn't smoke. his voice is just a result of casting for aslong as he has.
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Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 00:07:45
April 01 2011 00:06 GMT
#107
It comes from having to talk (loudly) so much for his job. My uncle has the same type of voice. He's an auctioneer who sounds quite similar to Tasteless. Your vocal chords can only handle so much before something gives. My uncle's vocal chords got so swollen that he was forced to have surgery done, and take over a month off with minimal talking to let them rest so he wouldn't cause even worse damage to his voice.

Also, look at Rachael Ray(I know she's terrible but it's an example), she was known for practically yelling on her show and she ended up having to have surgery and taking vocal lessons to help with the damage caused.

It's part of any profession where you have to talk like that.
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Aquafresh
Profile Joined May 2007
United States824 Posts
April 01 2011 00:18 GMT
#108
Does anyone else think Tasteless sounds a lot like Frank Zappa now? If you've heard Zappa's non-singing voice it's pretty crazy how similar they are, right down to the way they pronounce certain words. I think it's awesome personally.
RedMosquito
Profile Joined September 2010
United States280 Posts
April 01 2011 00:24 GMT
#109
This may be a long shot but i know some people whose voice changed after getting their tonsils removed. I dont know but I really doubt its smoking because ive been smoking for several years now and my voice sounds largely the same. Unless he smokes like packs a day i dont think his voice could change that much.
entlassen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States139 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 00:32:17
April 01 2011 00:24 GMT
#110
On April 01 2011 08:58 Zerum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 08:03 entlassen wrote:
hmm let's see, he's a smoker who defends his smoking habits and claims it's not affecting his body or health. gee, sounds like the vast majority of smokers out there.

the "talking too much from casting, not from smoking" excuse that tasteless gave last month is BS and nothing but an excuse from a smoker who's in heavy denial (like most smokers are).

consider the following:

1) Tasteless took a very, very long break between BW casting and SC2 casting. yet the first thing people noticed on Day 1 of GSL Open Season 1 was how shitty his voice had become. he had been unemployed and not actively casting for months and months, so surely his voice would have had the proper rest. instead it got worse. i wonder what could possibly have caused it?

2) Pull up a VOD of that GSL Day 1 cast (back on September 4th). Compare it to a recent VOD. has his voice gotten worse in those 7 months of active casting? no. voice degradation from too much talking is clearly not the issue. of course talking that much can't help, but it's clearly not the primary factor at work here.

What you haven't consider is that he also did allot of voice over work in Korea besides casting starcraft and I assume that what his job was between his BW casting and SC2 casting.


key word being assume. unfortunately your assumption is wrong.

if you followed his twitter or saw any of the interview videos of him artosis put up on scforall in the period between when gom classic got axed (september 2009; http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=101934 ) and gsl (september 2010), you would know that he was literally unemployed doing nothing. when the sc2 beta came out in spring, that's all he did, and he said so as much on his twitter & interviews. well, i guess you could count peddling his t-shirt website as being self-employed, but that hardly entails any voice work.
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
April 01 2011 12:15 GMT
#111
On April 01 2011 08:24 Gov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 08:11 Mooncat wrote:
Sorry for derailing but... wtf is with his analysis of the first two groups?(didn't watch the rest of the video)

Predicting Anytime over Flash & Mind!? o.O Predicting sAviOr to be the one to dominate the group?
Calling a group with Much, NaDa and Boxer the "group of death"!?

I think the question is not how long he has been smoking but WHAT has he been smoking...

You are assuming that he had the information he would have today back when he made those predictions, I'm sorry but time doesn't work like that


On April 01 2011 08:17 teamsolid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 08:11 Mooncat wrote:
Sorry for derailing but... wtf is with his analysis of the first two groups?(didn't watch the rest of the video)

Predicting Anytime over Flash & Mind!? o.O Predicting sAviOr to be the one to dominate the group?
Calling a group with Much, NaDa and Boxer the "group of death"!?

I think the question is not how long he has been smoking but WHAT has he been smoking...

Flash wasn't anywhere near as dominant as he is now. He was a decent player infamous for his cheesy wins vs Bisu, but no one would've though he was Bonjwa material. Meanwhile Anytime was pretty much a beast. Seems very reasonable.


On April 01 2011 08:46 udgnim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 08:11 Mooncat wrote:
Sorry for derailing but... wtf is with his analysis of the first two groups?(didn't watch the rest of the video)

Predicting Anytime over Flash & Mind!? o.O Predicting sAviOr to be the one to dominate the group?
Calling a group with Much, NaDa and Boxer the "group of death"!?

I think the question is not how long he has been smoking but WHAT has he been smoking...


uploaded by MickeyToss on Mar 13, 2008


As far as I know this was in 2008. At that time Anytime was nowhere near being a favorite against either Flash OR Mind. Anytime was still "ok" but he had his prime in 2006 iirc. Furthermore 2008 was the year of sAviOr's slump. He was not the favorite in this group, and I'm saying that as a huge sAviOr fan.

Boxer in 2008, as much as I respect him for what he's done for the scene, was just plain bad in comparison to his competition. NaDa was a little better, but he too was boasting a 42% win rate in 2008, not what you would call "group of death" material. While Much certainly had his moments, he was never really good over an extended period of time. Apart from that his PvZ was always pretty terrible and he had Jaedong in his grp...

So, defend him as much as you like I guess, but I think I'll stick to my humble opinion that his analysis of those groups was wrong.
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ccHaZaRd
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada1024 Posts
April 01 2011 12:18 GMT
#112
its probably a combination of things really

smoking + casting so much for years + age + not enough tea
Airship
Profile Joined August 2010
United States465 Posts
April 01 2011 12:18 GMT
#113
Regardless of the cause, he should see a speech therapist and get advice.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5913 Posts
April 01 2011 12:41 GMT
#114
I'm really curious what Tasteless drunk Karaoke sounds like now.
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MuTT
Profile Joined July 2010
United States398 Posts
April 01 2011 12:46 GMT
#115
Wow how can he not predict flash.. That;s a no brainer.. I guess it was a while ago but damn anytime > flash LOL
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Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
April 01 2011 12:50 GMT
#116
For 4 years of smoking to affect your voice you'd have to smoke ALOT.
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keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
April 01 2011 12:52 GMT
#117
Tasteless did zero casting for a huge amount of time between BW and SC2. His rasp isn't from casting too much...

I've seen this rasp come from simply smoking in many people IRL. It's not uncommon.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
goiflin
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1218 Posts
April 01 2011 12:55 GMT
#118
Casting/Smoking/Drinking/Age are all probably to blame.

His new voice is perfectly fine, though :/
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
April 01 2011 12:58 GMT
#119
On April 01 2011 21:15 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 08:24 Gov wrote:
On April 01 2011 08:11 Mooncat wrote:
Sorry for derailing but... wtf is with his analysis of the first two groups?(didn't watch the rest of the video)

Predicting Anytime over Flash & Mind!? o.O Predicting sAviOr to be the one to dominate the group?
Calling a group with Much, NaDa and Boxer the "group of death"!?

I think the question is not how long he has been smoking but WHAT has he been smoking...

You are assuming that he had the information he would have today back when he made those predictions, I'm sorry but time doesn't work like that


Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 08:17 teamsolid wrote:
On April 01 2011 08:11 Mooncat wrote:
Sorry for derailing but... wtf is with his analysis of the first two groups?(didn't watch the rest of the video)

Predicting Anytime over Flash & Mind!? o.O Predicting sAviOr to be the one to dominate the group?
Calling a group with Much, NaDa and Boxer the "group of death"!?

I think the question is not how long he has been smoking but WHAT has he been smoking...

Flash wasn't anywhere near as dominant as he is now. He was a decent player infamous for his cheesy wins vs Bisu, but no one would've though he was Bonjwa material. Meanwhile Anytime was pretty much a beast. Seems very reasonable.


Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 08:46 udgnim wrote:
On April 01 2011 08:11 Mooncat wrote:
Sorry for derailing but... wtf is with his analysis of the first two groups?(didn't watch the rest of the video)

Predicting Anytime over Flash & Mind!? o.O Predicting sAviOr to be the one to dominate the group?
Calling a group with Much, NaDa and Boxer the "group of death"!?

I think the question is not how long he has been smoking but WHAT has he been smoking...


uploaded by MickeyToss on Mar 13, 2008


As far as I know this was in 2008. At that time Anytime was nowhere near being a favorite against either Flash OR Mind. Anytime was still "ok" but he had his prime in 2006 iirc...


Anytime made it to the semi though.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
HEROwithNOlegacy
Profile Joined June 2010
United States850 Posts
April 01 2011 12:59 GMT
#120
Wow didn't know he use to sound like this either, I see some people said he is an avid smoker if this is true I would bet my money it has something to do with it.
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