LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA – March 29, 2011. – Today, Evil Geniuses (EG), one of the world’s leading professional gaming brands, has parted ways with Manuel “Grubby” Schenkhuizen and closed the WarCraft III division indefinitely.
Schenkhuizen has been a tremendous asset to Team EG since signing with the company in 2009. He not only represented EG well in terms of results, but in promoting EG's brand globally. In 2010 alone, Manuel achieved numerous podium placements including second place finishes at both the World Cyber Games Grand Finals and the International E-Sports Federation.
"I would like to thank EG for my time spent in the team. I wish everyone all the best in the future as well. Shout-out to EG.CS, been a pleasure getting to know you and hanging out together." Schenkhuizen said.
“It was an honor to have Manuel representing Team EG around the world,” said Scott Smith, Managing Director for Evil Geniuses. “We wish him nothing but good luck in the future.”
It looks like the WC3 division of EG has been disbanded, which led to Grubby and EG going their seperate ways.
Grubby mentioned this in his MLG Dallas blog.
I saw EG put up the announcement regarding the end of our contract, so that means I’m officially released from the WC3 squad and we’ll be going our separate ways. Thanks again to EG for the time we’ve shared.
The main question is who will he decide to play for because I am sure he will have a lot of offers on the table. Will he just decide to go the way of White-Ra and be on a one man/small team, form his own team or just be an independent pro since he has the name, reputation and cash to do it?
Rumour has it one of EG sponsors is giving him a personal sponsorship so I will name which two I think are going to be candidates for it: Intel or Jinx Clothing
On April 01 2011 03:57 kagemucha wrote: I thought he would've just moved over to the SC2 team rather than quitting EG entirely. GL to him! Love his stream!
That's what I thought as well. He certainly has the skills to exceed and do well in SC2. Would have been good to see him shift over rather than leave.
Suspicious, could be april fools. Im pretty sure EG knew that grubby made the switch to Sc2, so whether they decided they didnt need more SC2 players is another story, but it seems they would have dropped him a while ago if that had been the case.
On April 01 2011 03:57 kagemucha wrote: I thought he would've just moved over to the SC2 team rather than quitting EG entirely. GL to him! Love his stream!
Grubby still plays Warcraft 3. If he was on the SC2 team and he was still playing Warcraft 3, then EG would be paying him to play something that he's not supposed to.
I seen this coming TBH. EG'Starcraft II team is pretty stacked and full. If Grubby improves he could probably find a team just for the novalty of having him, SlayerSBoxeR foreigner of the WC3 scene.
On April 01 2011 03:57 Aurdon wrote: I believe no press reports until next monday and this silly holiday passes.
Yeah really, I've been just wide eye of every headline. I'm getting my fill of 4.1 before it is 4.1. I had no idea other countries celebrated a ridiculous day like this. Even on the EG site, Sir Scoots may be in on it? lol.
Yeah, it'll be hard to convince me of anything now that I've fallen for the MLG thread. Until April 2nd comes around everywhere in the world, I will beware of anything that I read
You'll know the truth at MLG. I really really doubt that Grubby is flying to the US on his own dime to compete. Also, he registered for the NASL as a Team EG member. So basically yeah, expect a press report after this stupid excuse of a holiday passes. The report will say they signed Grubby to their SC2 team.
Grubby has the world ahead of him. He has improved so incredibly much last month that just about any team would do themself a huge favour of adding him.
On April 01 2011 04:08 SirScoots wrote: It is not an April Fools prank PR guys.
Major bummer. Whether he re-signs with them shortly under a new contract or not I'm sure we'll all be seeing plenty of Grubby still. Best o' luck to Grubby and EG irregardless.
On his stream he was asked by the Team Virus manager, if he wanted to join a couple of weeks ago and played many games against the Virus guys. I don't know if this was for fun or had more to it.
On April 01 2011 04:13 Dexx wrote: On his stream he was asked by the Team Virus manager, if he wanted to join a couple of weeks ago and played many games against the Virus guys. I don't know if this was for fun or had more to it.
I doubt the Virus manager seriously tried to poach him on stream. No way.
Inka, Tasteless, and now Grubby leaving EG (if this isn't an April fools joke). Though, I thought EG was also part of the SC2 division on EG managed by Scoots?
On April 01 2011 04:13 Dexx wrote: On his stream he was asked by the Team Virus manager, if he wanted to join a couple of weeks ago and played many games against the Virus guys. I don't know if this was for fun or had more to it.
I doubt the Virus manager seriously tried to poach him on stream. No way.
Unless he decided to quit himself, this was an absolutely terrible move by EG. Grubby has shown that he has the talent to compete at the highest level in an RTS and will quickly surpass some of the other lesser known EG players soon (e.g. Axslav, StrifeCro, Lzgamer, etc) if not already.
On April 01 2011 04:02 Aurdon wrote: You'll know the truth at MLG. I really really doubt that Grubby is flying to the US on his own dime to compete. Also, he registered for the NASL as a Team EG member. So basically yeah, expect a press report after this stupid excuse of a holiday passes. The report will say they signed Grubby to their SC2 team.
If he registered for NASL as a player of EG doesn't matter. qxc did the same with ROOT and is now on FXO.
On April 01 2011 04:02 Aurdon wrote: You'll know the truth at MLG. I really really doubt that Grubby is flying to the US on his own dime to compete. Also, he registered for the NASL as a Team EG member. So basically yeah, expect a press report after this stupid excuse of a holiday passes. The report will say they signed Grubby to their SC2 team.
How you know, he really did? I guess, everybody just assumed this. In fact, he doesn't mention EG once in his application vid.
very sad. He's been improving very quickly and I'd expect him to be a pretty strong force in the SC2 competitive scene once he gets some more time into the game. One of the nicest people out there and a true professional gamer in every sense of the term, best of luck to you Grubby!
There was no announcement that he was on the SC2 team to begin with. He was paid by them to play WC3, they might have asked him if he wanted to sign onto the team and he declined or they declined what he wanted. It is a bad time for this news to come out.
On April 01 2011 04:02 Aurdon wrote: You'll know the truth at MLG. I really really doubt that Grubby is flying to the US on his own dime to compete. Also, he registered for the NASL as a Team EG member. So basically yeah, expect a press report after this stupid excuse of a holiday passes. The report will say they signed Grubby to their SC2 team.
If he registered for NASL as a player of EG doesn't matter. qxc did the same with ROOT and is now on FXO.
Fair point. That pretty much negates that argument.
I still stand by the fact that nothing has been said about him joining a new team for MLG tomorrow.
Someone paid for Grubby to go to Dallas. Whoever paid for it wants him to wear their shirt with all their sponsors on it if only for that one event that they paid for. If EG paid they would have waited until after Dallas to say something. If someone else paid, they would have been sure to announce his change before Dallas happened.
I could be wrong, but we'll know for sure when Grubby shows up for Dallas.
Why do you all guess in what team he will go? He will just choose a team that he fits in. WhiteRa said in one interview that Duckload only wants players who have a good fanbase, are well mannered and play well. Imo this fits to Grubby perfectly. We will see =)
On April 01 2011 04:34 aLuLz wrote: Why do you all guess in what team he will go? He will just choose a team that he fits in. WhiteRa said in one interview that Duckload only wants players who have a good fanbase, are well mannered and play well. Imo this fits to Grubby perfectly. We will see =)
He's practised with Nightend quite a lot on his stream and Prae's most recent news item has grubby in it: http://praetoriani.nl/index.php (because of a tournament but still)
Not saying it's the most likely alternative but Praetoriani might be darkhorse. Lets start the betting.
Even without the confirmation, there's absolutely no reason to presume this to be an april fool's joke; it's not funny, there are no hints at all to suggest it is and it would be terrible PR. Also it's not April 1st in EG land or in Europe.
Like others have mentioned Grubby was contracted for WC3 and not SC2. I would also find it strange for Scoots to mention dropping Grubby from WC3 and not picking him up for SC2 in that post if that's what happened. It's entirely possible that he could be resigned by EG based on his performance at MLG this weekend since Scoots and the rest of EG will be at Dallas.
Either way Grubby will be absolutely fine and find a team no problem.
Can't wait to see what team he ends up on. I also can't wait until he is fully done with WC3 and moves to Sc2 full-time. I really have enjoyed watching him play so far.
On April 01 2011 04:53 Raysalis wrote: Well, it is not like he has been practicing with the EG team who are mostly base in NA. He will probably sign for a euro base team.
I know hes Euro and all, but so is Demuslim who left MYM for EG. Though that did come with the plan of going to Korea, until he broke his arm.
On April 01 2011 04:53 Raysalis wrote: Well, it is not like he has been practicing with the EG team who are mostly base in NA. He will probably sign for a euro base team.
I know hes Euro and all, but so is Demuslim who left MYM for EG. Though that did come with the plan of going to Korea, until he broke his arm.
Hmm didn't expect this either, I figured he'd just move over to the SC2 division. It's friggin' Grubby though, he'll find a sponsor. Though I guess it adds a little something to his MLG appearance this weekend.
Weird decision to let him go at this point, he's improving rapidly. I can only assume he got a better offer, there are some teams around that seem to have crazy funds, like FXO, who would love nothing more than to sign one of the hottest names in eSports. He won't be cheap though.
He will be on the EG sc2 roster. They wouldn't make a big announcement to of his departure today if this were not the case. Half april fools joke^^ I hope... :/
Why not get rid of StrifeCo and add Grubby if EG has to many people. Grubby would obviously bring more attention to the team and seems to be better than him.
That's funny, not to sound rude or anything but he's probably better than some of the sc2 EG guys already or at least will be in the future easily. I would hope this is a joke! Since it is that time of the month :p
One more question, was Grubby the only player in their Warcraft 3 division?
Why only say thanks to him when closing down that chapter of their team? Don't you think they might have at least given a shoutout to their other players? Maybe a line at least saying, "Thanks for all the great times we had. Best of luck."
On April 01 2011 05:46 Aurdon wrote: One more question, was Grubby the only player in their Warcraft 3 division?
Why only say thanks to him when closing down that chapter of their team? Don't you think they might have at least given a shoutout to their other players? Maybe a line at least saying, "Thanks for all the great times we had. Best of luck."
On April 01 2011 05:46 Aurdon wrote: One more question, was Grubby the only player in their Warcraft 3 division?
Why only say thanks to him when closing down that chapter of their team? Don't you think they might have at least given a shoutout to their other players? Maybe a line at least saying, "Thanks for all the great times we had. Best of luck."
On April 01 2011 05:46 Aurdon wrote: One more question, was Grubby the only player in their Warcraft 3 division?
Why only say thanks to him when closing down that chapter of their team? Don't you think they might have at least given a shoutout to their other players? Maybe a line at least saying, "Thanks for all the great times we had. Best of luck."
EG´s WC3 squat contained grubby and cassandra with cassandra being the "team" manager. his wife does like all the sceduling and stuff like that.
Gl in the future grubby. cant wait for mlg and nasl
On April 01 2011 06:02 GenocideRun wrote: The return of 4K.Grubby, this would make me sosososossosoosososo happy.
The end of 4k was not pretty. Dont think that would happen. Here he talks about that, great documentary about the grubstar /QRY Grubby Just gotta be patient. He´ll find the right place for himself.
€:to clarify: This is a Documentary by SKgaming about Grubby´s life as a WC3 pro (legend) where he - at one point - talks about his past teams (4k, mym, .. ).
I don't understand this move at all unless it was Grubby's decision to leave.
EG has many players on their SC2 division that quite frankly seem to be signed because they are respected BW players. They are on this world class team because of their reputation from the past. I'm sorry to say but what has LzGaMeR, Machine, or Incontrol accomplished in SC2? They have sweet coaching gigs and Incontrol is a prominent and respected (completely deserved) member of the community but has their play been proven to be good enough to be contracted to one of the most prestigious teams in Esports history?
Now we have Grubby a player with more worldwide fame than all of these players. His skill may not be top tier yet but his name recognition and fanbase throughout the world is nearly unmatched. This is a big loss for EG as Grubby is a worthwhile team member regardless of current results. Something I can't quite say for the rest of their roster aside from IdrA and incontrol.
On April 01 2011 03:57 kagemucha wrote: I thought he would've just moved over to the SC2 team rather than quitting EG entirely. GL to him! Love his stream!
Maybe if he were a top tier player they would have accepted that. Obviously they don't think he's on par with the other guys currently.
On April 01 2011 06:34 crms wrote: This is a big loss for EG as Grubby is a worthwhile team member regardless of current results. Something I can't quite say for the rest of their roster aside from IdrA and incontrol.
Um, I believe you are forgetting about Axslav and Demuslim.
On April 01 2011 05:34 Zlasher wrote: How many people are going to assume sixjax has infinity money to sign a player with as much starpower as grubby lol, just because they signed Artosis?
On April 01 2011 05:34 Zlasher wrote: How many people are going to assume sixjax has infinity money to sign a player with as much starpower as grubby lol, just because they signed Artosis?
We do have infinite money.
That's great to hear. Maybe you can try solving the global poverty issue after signing Grubby?
On April 01 2011 06:34 crms wrote: This is a big loss for EG as Grubby is a worthwhile team member regardless of current results. Something I can't quite say for the rest of their roster aside from IdrA and incontrol.
Um, I believe you are forgetting about Axslav and Demuslim.
congratulations on missing the point of the entire post. Axslav and Desmuslim are putting up results and are not 'signed' due to prior BW accomplishments. This was laid out in the entire first paragraph. I purposefully didn't mention them. Even in the 'snippet' you quoted I'm clearly saying Grubby is a player along with IdrA and incontroL who make for a worthwhile team addition REGARDLESS of results. Ugh.
Thats almost disappointing that they didn't just place him on their sc2 team. For someone who did so much for EG, it would have just made sense for them to keep him.
well EG has to feed/transport two people (Grubby and his wife) for the benefits of Grubby's fame and potential in SC2. It must have been a difficult decision to make. Wish grubby luck in the future!
On April 01 2011 06:34 crms wrote: This is a big loss for EG as Grubby is a worthwhile team member regardless of current results. Something I can't quite say for the rest of their roster aside from IdrA and incontrol.
Um, I believe you are forgetting about Axslav and Demuslim.
But DeMuslim right now isn't play cause he broke his hand so he isn't active now so yeah, and well Axslav isn't doing as well as some other players
I don't know of course whether Grubby left, or EG decided not to keep him now that WC3 is done.
But I can say that if EG didn't keep him, I'm not surprised at all. He was a great WC3 player, but that doesn't mean he's a SC2 "just add water" pro-gamer. He may get better, yes, but that's taking a risk that a team really doesn't need to take. TBH he's just riding his WC3 fame into SC2 and I think EG made a smart move by not signing him onto SC2 until he's proven himself to be good. (Assuming it was EG's decision)
On April 01 2011 06:34 crms wrote: This is a big loss for EG as Grubby is a worthwhile team member regardless of current results. Something I can't quite say for the rest of their roster aside from IdrA and incontrol.
Um, I believe you are forgetting about Axslav and Demuslim.
But DeMuslim right now isn't play cause he broke his hand so he isn't active now so yeah, and well Axslav isn't doing as well as some other players
Have you even SEEN Axslav play lately? Was it him dismantling almost every player in the Team Liquid that wasn't good? Or was it him forgetting how to lose PvP? AxSlav has been rollllllllllling people, but there just aren't tournaments here Stateside for him to dive into. He's going to make a splash soon.
I think it's understandable. EG already has a great line up, and Grubby is still unproven in SC2. But knowing Grubby's skill and dedication, he'll prove himself really soon, and get picked up easily.
On April 01 2011 08:11 MuteZephyr wrote: I don't know of course whether Grubby left, or EG decided not to keep him now that WC3 is done.
But I can say that if EG didn't keep him, I'm not surprised at all. He was a great WC3 player, but that doesn't mean he's a SC2 "just add water" pro-gamer. He may get better, yes, but that's taking a risk that a team really doesn't need to take. TBH he's just riding his WC3 fame into SC2 and I think EG made a smart move by not signing him onto SC2 until he's proven himself to be good. (Assuming it was EG's decision)
Did you ever watched him playing sc2? He actually shows great skill, he learns incredibly fast and shows off some of the best sc2 micro. More than that, he is a decent, well manared guy, so how do you come to the conclusion, that EG didn't keep him?
On April 01 2011 06:02 GenocideRun wrote: The return of 4K.Grubby, this would make me sosososossosoosososo happy.
The end of 4k was not pretty. Dont think that would happen. Here he talks about that, great documentary about the grubstar /QRY Grubby Just gotta be patient. He´ll find the right place for himself.
Thanks for the link. The video felt a bit long but had some good insights into Grubby's life as a pro gamer. The story of how he met his wife was interesting, and he seems to be a very nice and mild mannered dude.
I was a bit curious what teams Grubby had been on, and from some googling, found that Grubby joined team EG in April of 2009. That means the 31st of March (yesterday) would mark the end of a two year period since he signed with EG. Assuming they negotiated yearly contracts, the end of last month would also mark the time the expiration of the most recent contract. Grubby was one of the very top WC3 pros and must have had an impressive salary playing for EG's Warcraft team. After his switch to SC2, his negotiating power undoubtedly diminished, and it's not hard to believe that he and EG would have trouble coming up with a new contract. Hopefully Grubby will do well at MLG and in the NASL and find a new team. I'll be cheering for him!
I guess with the collapse of wc3 division of EG, his contract also fell through?
I mean, Grubby is an amazing talent and player, with sick potential - but in the world of WC3 his contract must have been for CRAZY money, and probably more than any player like IdrA got - and he isnt that valuable at sc2 yet....
Which suprises me, given how corporate all teams are, and how much of a perfect person/player/proffesional/household name Grubby is.
Yeah I wish it was more clear on him parting with EG all together or just their WC3 division. I would think that EG would want him to stay in the family since he decided to make the switch to SC2. Maybe he found a more lucrative deal out there and EG let him go to pursue it. If that's the case then I applaud EG, if not then I'm kind of sad about the whole thing.
I think grubby was probably as good as some of the EG guys, the only difference is he was probably being paid more than anyone else on the team and they couldnt justify the salary.
I don't really understand this move by EG. Grubby is probably one of the highest profile sc2 players right now...why not let go some other member? I guess I don't know all the facts.
A liquid'Grubby or a SlayerS_Grubby would make me cry tears and tears of joy, but I agree with others, this seems like an FXO kinda move.
Putting all realistic considerations aside, just judging character Grubby would fit Teamliquits lineup really well, since he is - as all the tl members - a very well mannered player who stays in close contact to the community. Also, as far as I know, he never ever produced even one single piece of negative news about himself. Grubby is a name that will represent any team very well and will also spread its polularity to a huge audience. He is such a posterboy
again, grubby good luck on finding the right team for yourself
€: plus I would wait a few days to read muuch into that. If its true he´ll have a new team by then, otherwise its not april 1st anymore.
I seen this coming TBH. EG'Starcraft II team is pretty stacked and full. If Grubby improves he could probably find a team just for the novalty of having him, SlayerSBoxeR foreigner of the WC3 scene.
Is this a joke? The only person EG has who's better than grubby is IdrA and i don't know if you've heard, but EG's SC2 team is on the downslope
It was pretty obvious, If u have been following him hes been trying to spread his name as FollowGrubby, and nothing about EG.
I guess he will try and get sponsors for his FollowGrubby project or he will join a real big team. Maybe Wemade Fox as the former wc3 superstars Lyn and Moon.
On April 01 2011 09:21 Gentleman7 wrote: I don't really understand this move by EG. Grubby is probably one of the highest profile sc2 players right now...why not let go some other member? I guess I don't know all the facts.
A liquid'Grubby or a SlayerS_Grubby would make me cry tears and tears of joy, but I agree with others, this seems like an FXO kinda move.
I wouldn't say Grubby is high profile in SC2. He hasn't won anything notable or even been in major tournaments as far as I'm aware.
On April 01 2011 09:21 Gentleman7 wrote: I don't really understand this move by EG. Grubby is probably one of the highest profile sc2 players right now...why not let go some other member? I guess I don't know all the facts.
A liquid'Grubby or a SlayerS_Grubby would make me cry tears and tears of joy, but I agree with others, this seems like an FXO kinda move.
I wouldn't say Grubby is high profile in SC2. He hasn't won anything notable or even been in major tournaments as far as I'm aware.
Neither is Boxer - in terms of PURE SC2 "Accomplishments" and or "Seen as one of the best players". It's the fact that they are basically the biggest names in their respective RTS games, so they are a celebrity, doesn't matter what game they play. Grubby has to easily be one of the most recognizable "gamers", let alone in the RTS Genre.
On April 01 2011 09:21 Gentleman7 wrote: I don't really understand this move by EG. Grubby is probably one of the highest profile sc2 players right now...why not let go some other member? I guess I don't know all the facts.
A liquid'Grubby or a SlayerS_Grubby would make me cry tears and tears of joy, but I agree with others, this seems like an FXO kinda move.
I wouldn't say Grubby is high profile in SC2. He hasn't won anything notable or even been in major tournaments as far as I'm aware.
well he's currently 4th in the 'most anticipated moments of mlg dallas' poll beating things like 'huks NA return'. I'd say that's quite a nice indicator of his popularity considering this is a starcraft centric website.
the guy is one of the most famous cyberathletes (heh) of our generation and is recognized on a global esports levels.
On April 01 2011 09:21 Gentleman7 wrote: I don't really understand this move by EG. Grubby is probably one of the highest profile sc2 players right now...why not let go some other member? I guess I don't know all the facts.
A liquid'Grubby or a SlayerS_Grubby would make me cry tears and tears of joy, but I agree with others, this seems like an FXO kinda move.
I wouldn't say Grubby is high profile in SC2. He hasn't won anything notable or even been in major tournaments as far as I'm aware.
Neither is Boxer - in terms of PURE SC2 "Accomplishments" and or "Seen as one of the best players". It's the fact that they are basically the biggest names in their respective RTS games, so they are a celebrity, doesn't matter what game they play. Grubby has to easily be one of the most recognizable "gamers", let alone in the RTS Genre.
Boxer made it to the semis of a GSL, that's high profile pretty much no matter what.
The fact that Grubby was building his own brand (followgrubby) outside of EG would be kind of a hint of things to come. He had started to dump EG before the contract was over.
On April 01 2011 09:21 Gentleman7 wrote: I don't really understand this move by EG. Grubby is probably one of the highest profile sc2 players right now...why not let go some other member? I guess I don't know all the facts.
A liquid'Grubby or a SlayerS_Grubby would make me cry tears and tears of joy, but I agree with others, this seems like an FXO kinda move.
I wouldn't say Grubby is high profile in SC2. He hasn't won anything notable or even been in major tournaments as far as I'm aware.
Neither is Boxer - in terms of PURE SC2 "Accomplishments" and or "Seen as one of the best players". It's the fact that they are basically the biggest names in their respective RTS games, so they are a celebrity, doesn't matter what game they play. Grubby has to easily be one of the most recognizable "gamers", let alone in the RTS Genre.
Boxer made it to the semis of a GSL, that's high profile pretty much no matter what.
As much as I love Boxer,he had a lucky run once, that's not an argument that holds ground. Grubby only started playing 2 months ago, so criticism aside while he get's up to par. +60% ratio on the Euro ladder with 4k+ points is nothing to scoff at, considering how long he's been playing.
Mmmm, doesn't really make sense, in any case, I can't see it being EG dropping Grubby. Perhaps he has something else planned, he always seems to enjoy going about ventures in his own manner, so we shall see.
After watching alot of his stream and his general manner towards fans and other competitors, he's just a true champion, he will succeed at anything he dedicates himself to eventually. Hopefully he will rise as one of the biggest SC2 personalities.
I was hoping he'd stay on a more international team rather than such a eurocentric team. I hope liquid recruits him, the guy's basically the European Nony.
On April 01 2011 06:02 GenocideRun wrote: The return of 4K.Grubby, this would make me sosososossosoosososo happy.
The end of 4k was not pretty. Dont think that would happen. Here he talks about that, great documentary about the grubstar /QRY Grubby Just gotta be patient. He´ll find the right place for himself.
Thanks for the link. The video felt a bit long but had some good insights into Grubby's life as a pro gamer. The story of how he met his wife was interesting, and he seems to be a very nice and mild mannered dude.
I was a bit curious what teams Grubby had been on, and from some googling, found that Grubby joined team EG in April of 2009. That means the 31st of March (yesterday) would mark the end of a two year period since he signed with EG. Assuming they negotiated yearly contracts, the end of last month would also mark the time the expiration of the most recent contract. Grubby was one of the very top WC3 pros and must have had an impressive salary playing for EG's Warcraft team. After his switch to SC2, his negotiating power undoubtedly diminished, and it's not hard to believe that he and EG would have trouble coming up with a new contract. Hopefully Grubby will do well at MLG and in the NASL and find a new team. I'll be cheering for him!
Makes sense. LIke someone earlier also said EG probably dont want to continue paying Grubby the same salary he got for playing WC3 since he switched over to SC2 and is still considered unproven at top level.
its an april fools post... noobs need to to not be trolled so hard... EG has Grubby listed on the SC2 roster with 3 of each race why would they drop him... unless... omg DAY9 is coming back on team EG... heard it here first folks... playing the Brotoss gonna pwn some noobs.
Gotta love April fools!!! If this is true I'd be pretty shocked. I understand that he's completely unproven in Starcraft 2. But, he is a legend. Even if he turns out to not be that great, which I doubt he will, just having a big name like that would draw in WC3 fans towards EG and SC2. Hopefully this is some kind of joke, but either way I wish him the best of luck!!
As for all the people saying that he'll get picked up by Liquid, I find it very unlikely. I remember in and interview not to long ago in the Liquid Weekly they aren't looking to pick anyone new up. They've got a pretty damn good line up right now if you ask me.
mm apparently it isn't a great post considering that EG posted it and the War3 section has been taken down from their website? Liquid-Grubby anyone? -D
On April 01 2011 13:31 ReachTheSky wrote: I can't see liquid recruiting any more players since they already have 2 of each race
Despite that if TL was looking for a new long term player they couldnt find anyone better or more appropriate for it. It would be a great move for TL , Grubby and E-sports in the west in general as long as TL can support his contract needs.
I see grubby trying to attain a solo sponsorship. It was stated clearly in the article on the EG website that Grubby's decision to go down a path did not fall parallel with EG's.
This almost definitely isn't real but would be kind of cool if it was as it would be a great move for Grubby. That guy has all the potential in the world and a legion of followers from wc3 and is making new fans left and right and man it would be awesome to see Grubby on a euro team.
On April 01 2011 13:54 joheinous wrote: This almost definitely isn't real but would be kind of cool if it was as it would be a great move for Grubby. That guy has all the potential in the world and a legion of followers from wc3 and is making new fans left and right and man it would be awesome to see Grubby on a euro team.
You have to be kidding me. It's an endless cycle of these posts.
On April 01 2011 04:08 SirScoots wrote: It is not an April Fools prank PR guys.
On April 01 2011 13:54 joheinous wrote: This almost definitely isn't real but would be kind of cool if it was as it would be a great move for Grubby. That guy has all the potential in the world and a legion of followers from wc3 and is making new fans left and right and man it would be awesome to see Grubby on a euro team.
You have to be kidding me. It's an endless cycle of these posts.
March 31. Not April Fools. There's no reason to joke about this anyway, it wouldn't be funny it would just be weird as hell.
Of course it looks like a prank. Grubby is in the MLG right now without a sponsor. He flew to the usa and is paying all the cost associated with it without a sponsor if this is true. What would be even more weird is if EG flew him out and payed for him and then dumped him after they got him there before he even competes. And the timing of this would be such a shitty move by EG. Can you imagine the pressure and the overall effects on your mentality this would have literally a day before a huge tournament, Grubbys biggest in sc2 thus far.
The statement got to TL on prank day(can't write the date for some reasone) which is very poorly thought out by EG or just in very bad taste if the wanted to use the date to somehow dampen bad pr.
Besides all that Grubby is effectively a living legend in the rts genre. He has a ridiculous amount of fans and EG decides to dump him? The EG sc2 squad isn't really that strong. There's idra who's one of the worlds best but not doing to good and an injured deMuslim. The rest hasn't really accomplished much except semi-deep finishes in a MLG or two, which back then was like a 6k lan. But yeah I wonder why people think this is a joke
On April 01 2011 13:54 joheinous wrote: This almost definitely isn't real but would be kind of cool if it was as it would be a great move for Grubby. That guy has all the potential in the world and a legion of followers from wc3 and is making new fans left and right and man it would be awesome to see Grubby on a euro team.
You have to be kidding me. It's an endless cycle of these posts.
On April 01 2011 04:08 SirScoots wrote: It is not an April Fools prank PR guys.
March 31. Not April Fools. There's no reason to joke about this anyway, it wouldn't be funny it would just be weird as hell.
Of course it looks like a prank. Grubby is in the MLG right now without a sponsor. He flew to the usa and is paying all the cost associated with it without a sponsor if this is true. What would be even more weird is if EG flew him out and payed for him and then dumped him after they got him there before he even competes. And the timing of this would be such a shitty move by EG. Can you imagine the pressure and the overall effects on your mentality this would have literally a day before a huge tournament, Grubbys biggest in sc2 thus far.
The statement got to TL on prank day(can't write the date for some reasone) which is very poorly thought out by EG or just in very bad taste if the wanted to use the date to somehow dampen bad pr.
Besides all that Grubby is effectively a living legend in the rts genre. He has a ridiculous amount of fans and EG decides to dump him? The EG sc2 squad isn't really that strong. There's idra who's one of the worlds best but not doing to good and an injured deMuslim. The rest hasn't really accomplished much except semi-deep finishes in a MLG or two, which back then was like a 6k lan. But yeah I wonder why people think this is a joke
You make it sound like flying to the US cost a fortune and that somehow EG kicked Grubby out against his will. Both not really true, or at least unconfirmed regarding the second part. Add to that it's not in the slightest bit funny as well as people knowing him having confirmed it in the thread and you have to ask yourself why people don't think this is a joke.
If it turns out to be a prank it would just be lame by all parties involved unless they somehow turn it into a huge announcement of something else.
"I saw EG put up the announcement regarding the end of our contract, so that means I’m officially released from the WC3 squad and we’ll be going our separate ways. Thanks again to EG for the time we’ve shared."
From watching Grubbys stream its safe to say leting him go was not the greatest idea its just hard to tell where he goes from here. He's got the talent and hopefully the drive to be great in SC2 hopefully an equally prestigious team grabs him.
On April 01 2011 20:34 scrooge wrote: From watching Grubbys stream its safe to say leting him go was not the greatest idea its just hard to tell where he goes from here. He's got the talent and hopefully the drive to be great in SC2 hopefully an equally prestigious team grabs him.
Yep he definitely has the talent, lets hope he has the drive to be the best just like he did in WC3.. If there was one person in WC3 who you could say had "heart", it was no question Grubby. He didnt have the mechanics of a Moon or Lyn, but he always got the job done in the end with smarts and determination
if hes fully concentrated on SC2, Im gonna be excited to see how far he takes it in the next year
On April 01 2011 19:10 Shana wrote: TLAF-Liquid`Grubby
Please?
I'd be surprised if they can pay him (only team with the necessary funds seems SK). I think it's more likely he'll get a personal sponsorship due to his immense popularity.
On April 01 2011 22:38 MarwanBaki wrote: Just curious why Team liquid is called TLAF whats the af stand for. Teehee. Also waiting to see where grubby goes.
On April 01 2011 22:38 MarwanBaki wrote: Just curious why Team liquid is called TLAF whats the af stand for. Teehee. Also waiting to see where grubby goes.
Team Liquid Ape Factory, the Gorilla Terran was assembled there you know.
I really want to see Grubby joining TeamLiquid since it's originally Dutch and seeks to recruit talented (check) and mannered (check) players. I'm afraid Grubby's is not realistically in monetary range though but one can dream
and the other guy's ToD! that's a sick vid! I definitely would not wanna know what it would be like having hardcore fanboys running and screaming after you with an autograph
On April 01 2011 22:38 IndridCold wrote: Grubby laughed and said "no" to a question on his stream last week asking if he practiced with other EG members.... this is not surprising
I remember him saying that he isn't good enough to play with them yet so I don't know if that is "well I knew it right there" kinda thing. Kinda sad news but it's Grubby, it's not like he won't find a team he deserves. Any team that can get him on is lucky.
You really can compare Grubby to Boxer, he's the European Boxer man. I don't even KNOW what to think of this. Obviously there was a dispute over his salary no question, I'm just not sure if EG really gave him a chance to transition over to their SC2 team. This is like the equivalent of SKT making a SC2 team and dropping Boxer. Honestly, he was too good for EG(no offense), better off this way. Pierce the heavens with your warp blades Manuel !
On April 02 2011 00:35 Slardar wrote: You really can compare Grubby to Boxer, he's the European Boxer man. I don't even KNOW what to think of this. Obviously there was a dispute over his salary no question, I'm just not sure if EG really gave him a chance to transition over to their SC2 team. This is like the equivalent of SKT making a SC2 team and dropping Boxer. Honestly, he was too good for EG(no offense), better off this way. Pierce the heavens with your warp blades Manuel !
He's not the European Boxer. There is no European Boxer. He's not even the Boxer of WoW. Such a thing does not exist either. You don't know what you're talking about. I'm getting so tired of people thinking that a legendary player from game X is that game's equivalent of Boxer.
Don't know if its already been said (don't want to read thru 15+ pages) but Grubby wrote a Blog about his MLG Dallas trip on his site and mentions the departure from EG.
On April 02 2011 00:35 Slardar wrote: You really can compare Grubby to Boxer, he's the European Boxer man. I don't even KNOW what to think of this. Obviously there was a dispute over his salary no question, I'm just not sure if EG really gave him a chance to transition over to their SC2 team. This is like the equivalent of SKT making a SC2 team and dropping Boxer. Honestly, he was too good for EG(no offense), better off this way. Pierce the heavens with your warp blades Manuel !
He's not the European Boxer. There is no European Boxer. He's not even the Boxer of WoW. Such a thing does not exist either. You don't know what you're talking about. I'm getting so tired of people thinking that a legendary player from game X is that game's equivalent of Boxer.
Take away the coaching/team creation/everything OUTSIDE of Starcraft as a player, and its perfectly comparable.. Grubby as a player, was at Boxer's level in his game..
Actually Grubby is more comparible to Nada, being the most consistent top notch dominant player of WC3 for almost the whole period of competitive WC3.
Boxer's legendary status comes from what he has done for ESports, not solely his play in SC. But when you take away all of that, and look at boxer as just a player, Grubby is probably more dominant in WC3 than Boxer was in SC.
On April 01 2011 11:29 0neder wrote: the guy's basically the European Nony.
Since when is Tyler a freaking legend in the world of e-sports? Do you even know who Grubby is?
You can compare Grubby to Boxer(he basically is the European Boxer) or Potti, Spawn etc, but not to Tyler....
Do you know who Boxer is? None of those can be compared to Boxer.
Boxer isn't even the greatest BW player ever...
Grubby has consistently been at the top of wc3 forever really. I mean if you look at their careers as a whole, I'd say Grubby was a lot more consistent than boxer was throughout the entirety, but I will admit that Brood War is a lot harder to stay at the top.
On April 02 2011 01:43 Erock wrote: Don't know if its already been said (don't want to read thru 15+ pages) but Grubby wrote a Blog about his MLG Dallas trip on his site and mentions the departure from EG.
On April 02 2011 01:47 IzieBoy wrote: I guess we'll be seeing Grubby playing SC2 soon.
Soon as in since January?
Anyways... Nony was a big fish in a small pond. Grubby was a big fish in a medium sized pond. Boxer was a big fish in a big pond. You can't compare any of them to one another.
Being dominant in Korean Brood War ist not comparable to anything somebody has done in WC3. Stop being ridiculous, maybe Grubby will become a very good SC2 player but you don't know that so stop pretending he is "too good for EG".
On April 02 2011 01:43 Erock wrote: Don't know if its already been said (don't want to read thru 15+ pages) but Grubby wrote a Blog about his MLG Dallas trip on his site and mentions the departure from EG.
Dude i would love it if by some Magic 4K was reformed. I remember back when they won the WC3L finals with ONLY 3 [three] players. (against MYM, WE, Mouz i think can't remember off the top of my head). It was SOOO sick.
I'm betting he is going to be picked up by MYM, Mouz, or SK. Really good European teams that have been in the scene for a long time. Then again, it could totally be a suprise.
On April 02 2011 00:35 Slardar wrote: You really can compare Grubby to Boxer, he's the European Boxer man. I don't even KNOW what to think of this. Obviously there was a dispute over his salary no question, I'm just not sure if EG really gave him a chance to transition over to their SC2 team. This is like the equivalent of SKT making a SC2 team and dropping Boxer. Honestly, he was too good for EG(no offense), better off this way. Pierce the heavens with your warp blades Manuel !
He's not the European Boxer. There is no European Boxer. He's not even the Boxer of WoW. Such a thing does not exist either. You don't know what you're talking about. I'm getting so tired of people thinking that a legendary player from game X is that game's equivalent of Boxer.
being the equivalent of boxer is not about being the best in a game, its revolutionizing a game and blowing up esports in the first place. i dont think boxers fans regard him as the pinnacle of skill but rather as the most important figure in early rts esports.
even if grubbys skill level was equal/higher than boxers thats not what its about. war3 was neither big nor old enough for someone to be the equivalent of boxer (i dont look down on war3, i played for 4-5 years and watched tournaments till sc2 came out, grubby is also my favorite war3 player).
Don't think Grubby would join MYM. I didn't follow the wc3 scene that close but don't think grubby was very pleased with what happened when he was in MYM. I would go crazy if he would join mousesports but some sponsors of mouz are kinda focused on germany so i doubt they would sign such an international superstar. SK seems like they have all their money in CS 1.6 for this year. MTW, dunno if they could afford him.
On April 02 2011 02:40 Alver wrote: being the equivalent of boxer is not about being the best in a game, its revolutionizing a game and blowing up esports in the first place. i dont think boxers fans regard him as the pinnacle of skill but rather as the most important figure in early rts esports.
even if grubbys skill level was equal/higher than boxers thats not what its about. war3 was neither big nor old enough for someone to be the equivalent of boxer (i dont look down on war3, i played for 4-5 years and watched tournaments till sc2 came out, grubby is also my favorite war3 player).
Finally someone who actually knows what he's talking about. Also, what Longshank said.
On April 02 2011 02:23 eazo wrote: Dude i would love it if by some Magic 4K was reformed. I remember back when they won the WC3L finals with ONLY 3 [three] players. (against MYM, WE, Mouz i think can't remember off the top of my head). It was SOOO sick.
I'm betting he is going to be picked up by MYM, Mouz, or SK. Really good European teams that have been in the scene for a long time. Then again, it could totally be a suprise.
Again, as posted earlier by myself. 4K didnt end pretty. Also, from what I get out of his "/Qry Grubby" interview (posted the link earlier) he didnt sound all too sad that his contract with MYM (yep he briefly was on the same team with Moon) wasnt continued. The internets is so amusing, all this speculation without any information whatsoever. Just be patient guys. Grubby wont be homeless.
On April 02 2011 02:46 Influ wrote: Don't think Grubby would join MYM. I didn't follow the wc3 scene that close but don't think grubby was very pleased with what happened when he was in MYM. I would go crazy if he would join mousesports but some sponsors of mouz are kinda focused on germany so i doubt they would sign such an international superstar. SK seems like they have all their money in CS 1.6 for this year. MTW, dunno if they could afford him.
The current 'MYM' is just Wicked e-Sports rebranded, not 'the' MYM of Denmark that was the real legendary team.
Regardless, MYM wouldn't pick him up because they dont want to waste all of their money (they did plenty of that with their CS team).
Grubby is the kind of player that I think CAN go solo. Grubby has the professionalism (his wife is his management), has the fan-base, has the experience, has the sponsor interest (SteelSeries, he's one of the main "faces", even before joining EG).
If there is ONE person I would put my money on to successfully fly solo, its Grubby.
Although, I still think EG should have kept him, they are a sponsor driven organization who needs to have people talking about their brand, Good or Bad (preferably the first of course), Grubby creates interest and that's what investors want.
..and maybe this announcement has created the buzz they want just before MLG (O.O), just kiddin' still april first ya'know.
On April 01 2011 06:34 crms wrote: This is a big loss for EG as Grubby is a worthwhile team member regardless of current results. Something I can't quite say for the rest of their roster aside from IdrA and incontrol.
Um, I believe you are forgetting about Axslav and Demuslim.
And StrifeCro.
EG is pretty solid, and Grubby hasn't even been around.
I know Grubby was legendary in WC3, but has he brought anything to SC2 yet? How new is he, exactly? I know Moon has brought results already... has he been playing SC2 for far longer than Grubby? (I don't know much about WC3, but afaik, Moon and Grubby are relatively comparable... so I'd think that their results in SC2 would be too.)
On April 01 2011 06:34 crms wrote: This is a big loss for EG as Grubby is a worthwhile team member regardless of current results. Something I can't quite say for the rest of their roster aside from IdrA and incontrol.
Um, I believe you are forgetting about Axslav and Demuslim.
And StrifeCro.
EG is pretty solid, and Grubby hasn't even been around.
I know Grubby was legendary in WC3, but has he brought anything to SC2 yet? How new is he, exactly? I know Moon has brought results already... has he been playing SC2 for far longer than Grubby? (I don't know much about WC3, but afaik, Moon and Grubby are relatively comparable... so I'd think that their results in SC2 would be too.)
I think Grubby has the most potential between him and Moon. If you watch Grubby's stream you will see amazing unit control. (He actually gets probes into the enemy base when the opponent is guarding the ramp(most get stopped but you see the panic in the other player trying to stop it).)
Hopefully he gets far enough in MLG this weekend to get some broadcasted games shown.
There's also 2 other logos, the one on the top right side of his jersey appears to say Grubby, so some kind of personal logo or something? Not sure what the lower logo is.
It appears he is still sponsored by SteelSeries. The logo on his shirt has his name on it and the other logo which I do not recognize says GSS. Grubby is very good at teasing great things, so we'll have to wait and see what he has in store for us, but he promises it will be worth looking forward to.
SteelSeries We are proud to announce our exclusive sponsorship of professional gamer, Manuel Grubby Schenkhuizen, who starts his solo career in StarCraft II today, just in time for MLG Dallas. Grubby boasts 6 world championships, over a hundred other tournament wins, awards for best player and player of the year in eSports, inclusion in the World Cyber Games Hall of Fame for his WarCraft III career.. för 2 timmar sedan
EPT
... u had a great past and a bright future (plus a wonderful wife :<)
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