EPTWhat I can say is I really don't understand why they came here and wrote this confession thing. It makes no sense for them to do that, obviously people aren't going to go "Oh, they said they're sorry so it's all fine now."
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THM
Bulgaria1131 Posts
What I can say is I really don't understand why they came here and wrote this confession thing. It makes no sense for them to do that, obviously people aren't going to go "Oh, they said they're sorry so it's all fine now." | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On March 13 2011 03:09 Azide wrote: I too have played with Sorcery for quite a few games (haven't recently) and haven't played with him since these hacking accusations have gone around. It wasn't clear or hard to tell he was hacking at the point I played with him. He himself said he got the hack later on closer to when he started to mass 1v1s (I stopped playing with him before that). Protech has removed him from his friend's list and will never play with him again. I'll be doing the same. Just have to point out that when this guy says neither he nor protech has played with sorcery or igware for a while, he's lying. Azide has a 2v2 team with sorcery that was rank 53 in its division last week, and is now rank 17. Also has a 2v2 team with iGware that was rank 35 last week and is now rank 21. Protech has at least one 3v3 team with sorcery that shows games played within the last week. You can see that these guys were all friends and had a falling out. Clearly there is more to the story than we see in this thread. YOu can see their profiles if you go to channel "clan hack". THey all hang out there. | ||
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ffz
United States490 Posts
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Azide
Canada566 Posts
On March 14 2011 10:14 Doodsmack wrote: Just have to point out that when this guy says neither he nor protech has played with sorcery or igware for a while, he's lying. Azide has a 2v2 team with sorcery that was rank 53 in its division last week, and is now rank 17. Also has a 2v2 team with iGware that was rank 35 last week and is now rank 21. Protech has at least one 3v3 team with sorcery that shows games played within the last week. You can see that these guys were all friends and had a falling out. Clearly there is more to the story than we see in this thread. YOu can see their profiles if you go to channel "clan hack". THey all hang out there. lol zz clearly we were friends. i removed him from my list when he admitted to hacking. i was suspicious of him after the time we played those 2v2 games when he got REALLY high on the 1v1 ladder. im pretty sure they were closer to 2 weeks ago as the games were probably played near the beginning of 2 weeks ago making it look like a week ago. either way it doesnt matter. he's removed + wont be playing with him again. protech made a team called 'hack' (not sure why hack :S) and i get invited into the channel all the time. now the b.net channel glitch has occurred i can't join or leave that channel but it says im in it. you can even ask HuK he knows im legit :D <3 chris | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On March 14 2011 10:14 ffz wrote: nasl should require everyone to private stream their games so admins and only admins can watch their steams. not everyone has a computer good enough to stream + play the game just saying | ||
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ProTech
United States497 Posts
On March 14 2011 10:14 Doodsmack wrote: Just have to point out that when this guy says neither he nor protech has played with sorcery or igware for a while, he's lying. Azide has a 2v2 team with sorcery that was rank 53 in its division last week, and is now rank 17. Also has a 2v2 team with iGware that was rank 35 last week and is now rank 21. Protech has at least one 3v3 team with sorcery that shows games played within the last week. You can see that these guys were all friends and had a falling out. Clearly there is more to the story than we see in this thread. YOu can see their profiles if you go to channel "clan hack". THey all hang out there. I stopped playing with sorcery as soon as I had speculation that he was hacking. We had gone 25-0 which I found a little interesting because even with my best teams we don't go on huge streaks like that. You are always going to lose to at least ONE cheese in a stretch of that many games. Sorcery does not reside in my channel, nor did iGware. There has never been a single time since I created clan hack that I invited them into my channel. Obvious because my suspicion was there before I made my clan. In relation to what you say about me playing with him recently, I only did it for investigative reasons, to further build my case. You can even ask sorcery himself, I literally stopped playing / talking outside of games that i was VSING him. To answer your question Azide about why I called my clan hack, I actually just based it off an anime that I like to watch .//hack. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On March 14 2011 10:18 Azide wrote: im pretty sure they were closer to 2 weeks ago as the games were probably played near the beginning of 2 weeks ago making it look like a week ago. That actually makes no sense at all. When battle net gives your "rank last week" it's saying what your rank was at the end of that week. So, if your current rank is up from that, it means you've won games within the last seven days. First you said you haven't played with him since before he started playing 1v1s. That's what, mid-February? On March 14 2011 10:33 ProTech wrote: We had gone 25-0 which I found a little interesting because even with my best teams we don't go on huge streaks like that. You are always going to lose to at least ONE cheese in a stretch of that many games. Your 240-9 team doesn't go on 25 win streaks? | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On March 14 2011 10:50 Doodsmack wrote: That actually makes no sense at all. When battle net gives your "rank last week" it's saying what your rank was at the end of that week. So, if your current rank is up from that, it means you've won games within the last seven days. First you said you haven't played with him since before he started playing 1v1s. That's what, mid-February? Your 240-9 team doesn't go on 25 win streaks? they could lose a game right before a streak i guess, i think with my math that is possible..(maybe?) | ||
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
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Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
On March 14 2011 11:02 arb wrote: they could lose a game right before a streak i guess, i think with my math that is possible..(maybe?) 24 - 1 48 - 2 72 - 3 96 - 4 120 - 5 144 - 6 168 - 7 192 - 8 216 - 9 240 - 9 It's indeed possible to go 240 - 9 without getting a 25 win streak. Strangely 1 win away from it being impossible (at 241 - 9). | ||
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Azide
Canada566 Posts
ah didnt know there was an anime called hack lol On March 14 2011 10:50 Doodsmack wrote: That actually makes no sense at all. When battle net gives your "rank last week" it's saying what your rank was at the end of that week. So, if your current rank is up from that, it means you've won games within the last seven days. First you said you haven't played with him since before he started playing 1v1s. That's what, mid-February? im not gonna bother with an explanation as you probably won't believe me but i'll leave it at this: as soon as there was damning evidence (protech sent me those replays about a week ago in conjunction with his 4300+ stats.. if i recall before last week he was below 4k which is reasonable) and with sorcery's confession i 1) did not play with him 2) removed him from friends list in fact the day before the thread was made sorcery invited me to a party to play and i declined | ||
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Caliber
United States598 Posts
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ProTech
United States497 Posts
On March 14 2011 10:50 Doodsmack wrote: That actually makes no sense at all. When battle net gives your "rank last week" it's saying what your rank was at the end of that week. So, if your current rank is up from that, it means you've won games within the last seven days. First you said you haven't played with him since before he started playing 1v1s. That's what, mid-February? Your 240-9 team doesn't go on 25 win streaks? 3v3 and 2v2 are completely different. Half the time you are playing 3v3 RANDOM team that have never even played before. So needless to say 3v3 is a joke in sc2. And just so you know, all the games that we lost in 3v3 is vs iGware / Sorcery on the same team. edit: not ALL of them most of them | ||
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Vitamintv
United States35 Posts
3s is different from 2s. 240-9 is ez in 3s. | ||
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
On March 14 2011 09:44 jester- wrote: I'd disagree and say most of the hackers are going to be in the lower leagues because they are either: a) New to the game and don't want to learn or lose b) Bad enough to need to cheat. Either way, you have absolutely no way of knowing and neither do I, so why speculate? We're both just stating our theories. There's nothing wrong with it even if we can't prove it statistically. a) Sure, that is a good point, but it doesn't invalidate the idea the the higher league players care more about their rankings and are serious enough about it to consider using hacks, so let's say we're even here. b) Those players who are bad enough to cheat will go up in leagues while using maphacks. Sorcery's game mechanic isn't very good, but he was able to put himself in the global top 5. Plenty of people in upper leagues (Which I consider as Diamond/Masters) have been caught maphacking as well as many high level bw players in the past. The idea that you have to be bad enough to cheat doesn't really work because people will always want more than what they have. I'm not saying that a diamond 3000+ hacker is actually at that skill level, but you'll find him there anyway because he is unfairly giving himself a huge advantage. | ||
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KillerPlague
United States1386 Posts
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C5Five
England53 Posts
And they think I'm a condescending asshole... | ||
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dave333
United States915 Posts
http://www.cstarleague.com/league/players/7824 Is it this guy David Zhu who plays for berkeley? pretty confusing with all the shared accounts. | ||
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nGBeast
United States914 Posts
On March 14 2011 10:50 Doodsmack wrote: That actually makes no sense at all. When battle net gives your "rank last week" it's saying what your rank was at the end of that week. So, if your current rank is up from that, it means you've won games within the last seven days. First you said you haven't played with him since before he started playing 1v1s. That's what, mid-February? Your 240-9 team doesn't go on 25 win streaks? You're dumb if you think Azide hacks, he's as legit as it gets. | ||
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BritishBeef
United Kingdom372 Posts
On March 12 2011 11:58 Ourk wrote: well if he was hacking surely he whould been rdy for this hellion drop ? im talking about the 1v1 When i was playing CS and i was about 11 years old.. i used to use wallhack and fake shooting through boxes check corners i KNEW guys wernt there apperances are everything these days. | ||
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