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HunterStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada249 Posts
March 10 2011 05:11 GMT
#201
I'm as excited as ever when it comes to Code-S, I've been thoroughly enjoying almost every single match. Just take the most recent RO8 battle - Nada vs JulyZerg.. freaking NUTS!

Code-A... is another story. To be 100% honest, I would still enjoy Code-A quite a bit with Tasteless or Artosis casting with Kelly. Now that it's Kelly + Doa, I haven't been as enthralled. Hopefully this will change though.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
March 10 2011 05:12 GMT
#202
On March 10 2011 14:11 HunterStarcraft wrote:
I'm as excited as ever when it comes to Code-S, I've been thoroughly enjoying almost every single match. Just take the most recent RO8 battle - Nada vs JulyZerg.. freaking NUTS!

Code-A... is another story. To be 100% honest, I would still enjoy Code-A quite a bit with Tasteless or Artosis casting with Kelly. Now that it's Kelly + Doa, I haven't been as enthralled. Hopefully this will change though.


See, a lot of people thought those games were fun to watch. Then Idra says they suck and their games suck and TL doesn't know what to think anymore.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
March 10 2011 05:14 GMT
#203
On March 10 2011 14:10 GagnarTheUnruly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 13:52 HolyArrow wrote:
On March 10 2011 13:49 GagnarTheUnruly wrote:
On March 10 2011 13:29 HolyArrow wrote:
On March 10 2011 13:28 GagnarTheUnruly wrote:
On March 10 2011 13:18 Zzoram wrote:
On March 10 2011 13:15 jalstar wrote:
On March 10 2011 13:01 Zzoram wrote:
On March 10 2011 13:00 Clare wrote:
One thing I don't get is why are some people ONLY interested in watching the foreigners play? Even if the foreigners aren't as good as the Koreans, they will stop watching when they get knocked out. It makes no sense to me whatsoever... if the best players in the world are playing in the GSL, then I'll continue to watch.


It's the whiteness factor. Many white people want to watch white people win. People rarely admit it, but it's the truth. A lot of the Europeans have mangled English and boring interviews as well, but their whiteness makes them more interesting to many people than a superior Korean player.


Don't BS please, lots of foreigners are of asian descent. It's the fact that we know them from small tournaments that Koreans don't know about, streams, and forum posts, much like Korean fans know the lesser-known Koreans.

Cella is much more widely known than most Koreans of his skill level because he streams, Select isn't white but he's as well or more well known to foreigners than a lot of white players. Using the race card is just so wrong here.


Even in the coverage of GSL qualifiers, Incontrol gets a ton of screen time but Select, who is likely a much better foreigner player, gets almost nothing. Plus when you hear people talk about foreigners in GSL, they always forget guys like Sen and Loner. Why do you think that is?


It's a good point but keep in mind, you're only talking about the English speaking world (that uses TL). Go to a Chinese-speaking forum and there won't be any confusion about whether Sen is a foreigner.


I don't think the fact that people speak English on the forum reduces their capacity to identify who is or is not Korean in any way.


But he's right -- when people talk about the foreign players Sen and Loner rarely come up. Look at the Foreigner Specials on this forum. The Asian foreigners don't get mentioned, for example.


I'm confused. I agree with everything you said there. I was merely taking issue with how you seemed to be saying that the fact that these forums are English forums gives some sort of "excuse" for not recognizing non-Korean asians as foreigners.


I'm probably just not communicating well. The only point I was trying to make was that while on this forum it might seem that Asian foreigners are ignored, to a lot of Chinese fans Loner feels like a 'foreign' player. So it's a bit narrow to say that Loner gets missed as a foreigner because he gets missed here -- not that we should be proud of that fact to the extent that it's true.


Ok, I see what you're saying. Agreed.
Hostile
Profile Joined September 2010
United States49 Posts
March 10 2011 05:21 GMT
#204
I don't play SC2 but I love watching the best of the best play this game. The GSL is also the only place I can watch Artosis and Tasteless cast so no, GSL is still my top priority.
History's Strongest Disciple
Owii
Profile Joined July 2010
United States357 Posts
March 10 2011 05:25 GMT
#205
I'm much more attached to the foreign scene than the Korean scene, so now that TLO, IdrA, Ret, etc are gone my interest is waning. Also, with the MLG season nearing, IEM games happening, and the NASL and TSL3 to look forward too, there's just a lot more going on outside of Korean atm.
yosef
Profile Joined February 2011
United States19 Posts
March 10 2011 05:30 GMT
#206
With Idra dropping out of the GSL my interest level was probably cut in half but i still like to watch the terrans play and that is really just to help my own play. For entertainment I would rather watch MLG or even incontrol's stream over GSL. The reason I was rooting hard for Idra is because he worked really hard for a long time and just wanted it to pay off in a really big way so that was what made it exciting for me. Starcraft 2 is always enjoyable to watch and artosis and tasteless are funny dudes so definitely a great show but I just have no attachment to the players i guess and that is what makes it exciting for me.
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
March 10 2011 05:35 GMT
#207
Oh hell no, it's still the best tourney on the world.
Cynoks
Profile Joined May 2010
United States87 Posts
March 10 2011 05:36 GMT
#208
I never subscribed to GSL in the first place but yes my interest in the GSL has dropped along with my interest in Starcraft. On the other hand I'm extremely excited for the NASL because the stream will be a lot closer to my time zone than Korea.
HardCorey
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States709 Posts
March 10 2011 05:38 GMT
#209
Im super excited for NASL but GSL still has some of the tiptop players so I can't see leaving it entirely.
Don't Worry, Be Happy.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 05:41:02
March 10 2011 05:40 GMT
#210
On March 10 2011 12:58 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 12:56 Louuster wrote:
Tushin is back on top, so GSL is my priority for now.
However, that might change once TSL starts, depending on how well the foreigners do against the koreans. If it becomes BW WCG, then it reduces to another chance to watch the top korean pros play, which is never bad but at the same time not as interesting from a competitive point of view.


The best players winning is never a bad thing from a competitive point of view.

I wonder what will happen in Koreans dominate MLG/TSL/NASL. Will they get banned?

Of course they'll get banned. Then the organizers will talk about how this is a event for foreigners and that koreans have many events that they can play in already (ignoring the fact that foreigners can go to Korea and play in korean leagues). Just think TSL2.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
March 10 2011 05:41 GMT
#211
The poll options are really non-representative...but I'm still very excited for GSL (this season was a bit of a let down), but if the highest level players remain in GSL (+ you get Tastosis), it's still the premier tournament.
the farm ends here
bigbeau
Profile Joined October 2010
368 Posts
March 10 2011 05:44 GMT
#212
does anyone think idra is still a top zerg anymore?
Hi, I won a beta tournament and a single MLG. Yet I can't actually beat any top pros. Clearly this gives me the right to bitch about imbalance because I am so knowledgeable. There is only one way to play zerg which is hatch first and terran can easily beat hatch first so they are clearly overpowered.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
March 10 2011 05:46 GMT
#213
On March 10 2011 12:31 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 11:58 Grobyc wrote:
Needs a "Yes, but never had a premium ticket in the first place" poll option.


eh if you never had a premium ticket in the first place your opinion inn the poll doesnt really mean much imo
this is for people who liked the gsl in the first place

I did like GSL in the first place and was just as excited as anyone else, but I was fine with the free LQ stream (didn't really have spare cash for HQ regardless), and just paid less and less attention with every passing week.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
March 10 2011 05:46 GMT
#214
On March 10 2011 14:44 bigbeau wrote:
does anyone think idra is still a top zerg anymore?
Hi, I won a beta tournament and a single MLG. Yet I can't actually beat any top pros. Clearly this gives me the right to bitch about imbalance because I am so knowledgeable. There is only one way to play zerg which is hatch first and terran can easily beat hatch first so they are clearly overpowered.


Idra has fallen off quite a lot since the first GSL, not because he's worse, but because other people got better. He still speaks like he's the top dog though.
out4blood
Profile Joined July 2010
United States313 Posts
March 10 2011 05:49 GMT
#215
You can't call yourself a Starcraft 2 fan and NOT be at least interested in the GSL.

Well, I suppose you can... But then you'd be a moron.
http://sc2sig.com/s/us/1228872-1.png?1290726543
bigbeau
Profile Joined October 2010
368 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 05:50:03
March 10 2011 05:49 GMT
#216
On March 10 2011 14:46 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 14:44 bigbeau wrote:
does anyone think idra is still a top zerg anymore?
Hi, I won a beta tournament and a single MLG. Yet I can't actually beat any top pros. Clearly this gives me the right to bitch about imbalance because I am so knowledgeable. There is only one way to play zerg which is hatch first and terran can easily beat hatch first so they are clearly overpowered.


Idra has fallen off quite a lot since the first GSL, not because he's worse, but because other people got better. He still speaks like he's the top dog though.


thats my point. he laddered so hard before everyone else did so he was good when everyone else was still learning. now theyve laddered as much as he had and now theyre far better than him. and yet he thinks he is the authority on zerg when really hes just the authority on awkward missed high fives
Gospadin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States84 Posts
March 10 2011 05:51 GMT
#217
On March 10 2011 14:44 bigbeau wrote:
does anyone think idra is still a top zerg anymore?
Hi, I won a beta tournament and a single MLG. Yet I can't actually beat any top pros. Clearly this gives me the right to bitch about imbalance because I am so knowledgeable. There is only one way to play zerg which is hatch first and terran can easily beat hatch first so they are clearly overpowered.


Only one way to play? huh?

I think he's really, really good, I just wish he wouldn't tap out of matches so damn fast when things don't go his way. We've seen play in both code A and code S this season where player X was dominating and threw it away with a mistake allowing player Y to win. Heck, it happened in every single HuK and July match in the last few weeks. Idra talks such a big game, says his opponents suck, but then gives those same opponents WAY too much credit and doesn't think he can get them to panic or make a mistake, so he taps out with near-even food when a push fails or something else dumb occurs.

I say float your CCs to the corners, drop a random infestation pit, place a hidden pylon, etc. and keep HWAITING to the last supply!
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 05:55:27
March 10 2011 05:51 GMT
#218
Wheres the "it's still increasing" option? NASL is just increasing the hype I have over watching pro SC2.

Code A isn't really offering the highest quality of games - mostly what I watch for in code A is looking out for improvement / rising stars. Will likely be the same in NASL - watching out for who's really starting to blow up and become freaking awesome.
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 05:52:47
March 10 2011 05:52 GMT
#219
On March 10 2011 14:44 bigbeau wrote:
does anyone think idra is still a top zerg anymore?
Hi, I won a beta tournament and a single MLG. Yet I can't actually beat any top pros. Clearly this gives me the right to bitch about imbalance because I am so knowledgeable. There is only one way to play zerg which is hatch first and terran can easily beat hatch first so they are clearly overpowered.


Yes, he still is a top zerg. He's a very consistent player and his results in the GSL have shown this. Rather than completely dismiss his criticisms of the game as "bitching," you should try to address the points he makes so that you don't come off as being a complete jackass.

Also, why are you bringing this up in a thread about GSL?
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
kash2k
Profile Joined November 2010
139 Posts
March 10 2011 05:52 GMT
#220
For me personally it becomes better and better.

I love the pressure they are now playing under. They have to be aggressive and at the same time do it flawlessly or in a split second they might look like newbs :D
Cheering for Kyrix, Genius, SlayerSBoxer and ret!
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