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applejuice
Profile Joined October 2010
307 Posts
March 11 2011 03:25 GMT
#941
On one hand I think: GOM would be crazy to listen to the trolls on TL and on the GOM forums. I'm confident they are ignoring the trolls. But then WTF are they making us sit through months of auditions????

On the other hand: Maybe they are listening to the trolls. If so, I predict whoever the last caster is, regardless of ability, to get the job. The trolls will be tired out by that point.
lolsixtynine
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States600 Posts
March 11 2011 03:28 GMT
#942
On March 11 2011 12:25 applejuice wrote:
On one hand I think: GOM would be crazy to listen to the trolls on TL and on the GOM forums. I'm confident they are ignoring the trolls. But then WTF are they making us sit through months of auditions????

On the other hand: Maybe they are listening to the trolls. If so, I predict whoever the last caster is, regardless of ability, to get the job. The trolls will be tired out by that point.


People aren't trolling... most of us honestly don't think she's the best for the job. I think after a few months of auditions, nobody will think she is.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 03:42:17
March 11 2011 03:41 GMT
#943
On March 11 2011 11:34 Khaymus wrote:
You clearly did not watch SC1. There was no English casting for most of it. I almost miss listening to the crazy Korean Commentators ><

If you understand the game, then you could understand what she was saying just from hearing it in context of the situation....not to mention she will get better with time(even though I could really understand her fine). People are way to unforgiving...

And no...I was completely open to more people joining the SC scene. As long as they were quality people who didn't post garbage. So much for that....


One of the reasons why I didn't watch SC1 was because there was almost no English Casting for it. The few videos I watched were of Lil Suzie/Tasteless casting and those were enjoyable. I'm pretty sure a lot of people didn't take SC1 progaming seriously because of that whole lack of a foreign scene. Now that there is one and people watch it you have elitists like you that cry for no reason :|

Also its fine to think that all the new comers are garbage. despite your 'seniority" you're in the minority from what I can see when it comes to peoples views on Kelly. The minority that ironically calls us ignorant for judging someone's casting ability on their race/gender when we're actually judging her casting ability from her casting ability. The biggest tournament for SC isn't the place to practice your English accent, let her cast GSL in her own language I'm sure she would be much better doing that (if you ignore her lack of knowledge).
hihihi
marigold
Profile Joined March 2011
Belgium10 Posts
March 11 2011 03:56 GMT
#944
Tbh I like her, also gomtv is the first time I "met" her and I'm still fcking amazed how much a girl knows about sc2 :D
dkim
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States255 Posts
March 11 2011 04:01 GMT
#945
On March 11 2011 12:28 lolsixtynine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2011 12:25 applejuice wrote:
On one hand I think: GOM would be crazy to listen to the trolls on TL and on the GOM forums. I'm confident they are ignoring the trolls. But then WTF are they making us sit through months of auditions????

On the other hand: Maybe they are listening to the trolls. If so, I predict whoever the last caster is, regardless of ability, to get the job. The trolls will be tired out by that point.


People aren't trolling... most of us honestly don't think she's the best for the job. I think after a few months of auditions, nobody will think she is.

yes it can be considered as auditions, but I consider it as getting an opportunity to check out other casters that are out there. finished product is obviously code S with tastosis. I don't mind gom testing their casting crew in code A at all. while I do miss tastosis also casting in code A, I can make a lil room for other potentially great casters that just haven't been found yet.
havmic
Profile Joined January 2011
6 Posts
March 11 2011 04:18 GMT
#946
I, for one, find this to be great news. Nothing against her personally, but listening to her thinking a remote twilight council means a "blink stalker rush", or that taking drones off gas after zergling speed means "zergling allin" was getting annoying. Not to mention the very normal and safe 3gate expand in tvp (lololol, no detection).
ke_ivan
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore374 Posts
March 11 2011 04:27 GMT
#947
On March 11 2011 00:53 oxxo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2011 00:44 Rob28 wrote:
If your job is to communicate in real-time with a large audience, you might want to stick to speaking to an audience in your native language.

I'm not harping on her accent; English is a hard language to master if it isn't your first... but I wouldn't try to provide commentary for things in French when I only have a very rusty basic ability to speak the language. Why should the rest of the world feel obligated to do that very thing when it's English?


Just a note, in Singapore English is an official language (I believe it's even the primary language?) and is taught at a very very very early age. It's even used in the school system for instruction. The problem is that Singapore is well known for its 'Singlish' and mangling the English language.


We're only mangling an ex-colonialist language that's already bastardised. If Modern English was a "classical" language, that'd be a real problem for all of us lol.
ke_ivan
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore374 Posts
March 11 2011 04:29 GMT
#948
On March 10 2011 21:10 tattoos and creep wrote:
Fear the internets Kelly, fear us cause we do not forgive. Good job guys, the hate wins again. Jealousy at its best. To future female with a weird english accent casters: Expect us.


No wonder the French economy doesn't move. Oh sorry, that isn't the reason. The real reason is: Strikes!
Rawenkeke
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway350 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 05:01:04
March 11 2011 04:59 GMT
#949
On March 11 2011 03:48 excellionx wrote:
although her casting skill is lacking... i can understand kelly just fine, the accent doesnt seem that bad




True I understod most of it aswell, I just didn't like her high pitched voice, never expressed my anger towards it like the thousands of idiots raging on gom forums etc..
MuTT
Profile Joined July 2010
United States398 Posts
March 11 2011 05:04 GMT
#950
Dang she is bad mannered she just told me to eat a dick lol.
MC's strength: confidence weakness: over confidence
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
March 11 2011 05:06 GMT
#951
On March 11 2011 14:04 MuTT wrote:
Dang she is bad mannered she just told me to eat a dick lol.

saw the same line last night on Huk's stream.
Smuggle
Profile Joined August 2010
United States33 Posts
March 11 2011 05:13 GMT
#952
I personally didnt carefor her much i was just tired of her saying terran vs herran
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Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 05:15:24
March 11 2011 05:14 GMT
#953
On March 11 2011 12:25 applejuice wrote:
On one hand I think: GOM would be crazy to listen to the trolls on TL and on the GOM forums. I'm confident they are ignoring the trolls. But then WTF are they making us sit through months of auditions????

On the other hand: Maybe they are listening to the trolls. If so, I predict whoever the last caster is, regardless of ability, to get the job. The trolls will be tired out by that point.


The casting position is a long term type thing. They could pick from a handful of koreans right now and settle it. They instead chose to give everyone a season to prove themselves plus it keeps things fresh until everyone is happy. That being the viewers and gomtv, obv.
There's no S in KT. :P
WorldTraveleR
Profile Joined March 2011
16 Posts
March 11 2011 05:20 GMT
#954
Yep, I'm a Masters player in everything on the NA server and for the last few days I have stopped watching Code A also. She was frustrating me so much with how little she knew about the game But Yet she had such certainty about everything.

Many times, she claimed a particular battle was going to go one way or the other and nearly all of the time, she was dead wrong! This is entirely too frustrating, when I can tell by gaging the forces, That it is Impossible to Tell who is going to win! It all comes down to micro at this point.

Another thing I didn't like was how she based Protoss and Terran because she played Zerg. She would say that Collosi were too strong and PFs were impossible to destroy. I didn't like that bias.


As for the new casters, I agree that we want to see the end product, but clearly Gom needs our help in choosing who to pick. Kelly was obivously picked, and that was a mistake on their part, so it's best I believe, that we see who they pick and can provide feedback


Prepare yourself
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 05:36:32
March 11 2011 05:27 GMT
#955
On March 11 2011 14:04 MuTT wrote:
Dang she is bad mannered she just told me to eat a dick lol.
I can actually confirm this, if that was in fact actually her (At first I doubted it but the match history had tons of observed games of pros like edit: lzGamer, avilo, antimage, optikzero, Minigun, Sheth and so on so forth so I'm actually thinking it was really her). A person with her name flipped out on the GCPL channel and got mad at a couple people including ROOTFayth.

Edi: Not a good way to portray oneself to the community. People were saying they didn't like her but she didn't need to do what she did. It would have been much better to be the better person and just ignore it instead of swearing at the community.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
denzelz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States604 Posts
March 11 2011 05:33 GMT
#956
I'm really sad about all this. I think constructive criticism about her casting is fine, but let's admit, a lot of people on TL and GOM forums (including InControl) was making references that is borderline on sexual harassment. She was an active TL community member and if I had to wake up to some of these comments, I would have said screw this a long time ago.
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 05:42:56
March 11 2011 05:41 GMT
#957
On March 11 2011 14:27 Ben... wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2011 14:04 MuTT wrote:
Dang she is bad mannered she just told me to eat a dick lol.
I can actually confirm this, if that was in fact actually her (At first I doubted it but the match history had tons of observed games of pros like edit: lzGamer, avilo, antimage, optikzero, Minigun, Sheth and so on so forth so I'm actually thinking it was really her). A person with her name flipped out on the GCPL channel and got mad at a couple people including ROOTFayth.

Edi: Not a good way to portray oneself to the community. People were saying they didn't like her but she didn't need to do what she did. It would have been much better to be the better person and just ignore it instead of swearing at the community.


Wait, so what exactly happened? Why did she get angry in the first place?

On March 11 2011 14:33 denzelz wrote:
I'm really sad about all this. I think constructive criticism about her casting is fine, but let's admit, a lot of people on TL and GOM forums (including InControl) was making references that is borderline on sexual harassment. She was an active TL community member and if I had to wake up to some of these comments, I would have said screw this a long time ago.


Can you actually link us to those posts on TL that would qualify as sexual harassment?
Bart
Profile Joined November 2010
494 Posts
March 11 2011 05:48 GMT
#958
there is a lot of trolling going on these days. It's stated over and over in threads, SOTG etc that TL forums used to be a friendly, supportive bunch of gamers who loved the game and everything about it. As a WoW and SC2 gamer (yes I play WoW as well) I find it oddly similar as both communities are getting more and more immature as time goes by.

Anyways I would like to say that Kelly did her best and took her shot and I respect her for it.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Fan of: MKP, Select, MC, Kripp, Purge, JP, Qpad Red Pandas
denzelz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States604 Posts
March 11 2011 05:50 GMT
#959
On March 11 2011 14:41 Sein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2011 14:27 Ben... wrote:
On March 11 2011 14:04 MuTT wrote:
Dang she is bad mannered she just told me to eat a dick lol.
I can actually confirm this, if that was in fact actually her (At first I doubted it but the match history had tons of observed games of pros like edit: lzGamer, avilo, antimage, optikzero, Minigun, Sheth and so on so forth so I'm actually thinking it was really her). A person with her name flipped out on the GCPL channel and got mad at a couple people including ROOTFayth.

Edi: Not a good way to portray oneself to the community. People were saying they didn't like her but she didn't need to do what she did. It would have been much better to be the better person and just ignore it instead of swearing at the community.


Wait, so what exactly happened? Why did she get angry in the first place?

Show nested quote +
On March 11 2011 14:33 denzelz wrote:
I'm really sad about all this. I think constructive criticism about her casting is fine, but let's admit, a lot of people on TL and GOM forums (including InControl) was making references that is borderline on sexual harassment. She was an active TL community member and if I had to wake up to some of these comments, I would have said screw this a long time ago.


Can you actually link us to those posts on TL that would qualify as sexual harassment?


I easily found one that fit what I was saying.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195220&currentpage=15#289

Do you really believe that this wasn't happening? As you that naive or just don't look at GOM posts?
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 05:57:22
March 11 2011 05:53 GMT
#960
On March 11 2011 14:41 Sein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2011 14:27 Ben... wrote:
On March 11 2011 14:04 MuTT wrote:
Dang she is bad mannered she just told me to eat a dick lol.
I can actually confirm this, if that was in fact actually her (At first I doubted it but the match history had tons of observed games of pros like edit: lzGamer, avilo, antimage, optikzero, Minigun, Sheth and so on so forth so I'm actually thinking it was really her). A person with her name flipped out on the GCPL channel and got mad at a couple people including ROOTFayth.

Edi: Not a good way to portray oneself to the community. People were saying they didn't like her but she didn't need to do what she did. It would have been much better to be the better person and just ignore it instead of swearing at the community.


Wait, so what exactly happened? Why did she get angry in the first place?
Basically, people were talking about her and Code A. One of us pointed out that she was going back to Singapore after the finals and a bunch of people expressed that they were happy with that and they wouldn't have to listen to her anymore as Gom is testing out new casters (Lets just say what a few people said was a little more harsh than that but still nothing that hasn't been said here). Apparently it showed up on the GCPL stream after the Fnatic vs TL was done and she showed up and told people to say what they were saying to her face, so someone did and she then proceeded to tell him to suck a dick and that he is probably a 30-something overweight person who was rejected in high school. We thought it was a troll account but there were a ton of observed pro games.

I have a screenshot of the whole thing but I don't want to post it because she gets enough flak as is. I used to like her casting but this made me lose a ton of respect for her. If this is how she deals with criticism she is in the wrong line of work.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
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