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AlphaWhale
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia328 Posts
March 10 2011 08:40 GMT
#781
Accents are a perfectly reasonable criteria to be judged on if the job is talking.
The icon for diamond league is actually a sapphire.
fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
March 10 2011 08:40 GMT
#782
sad to say but im kinda happy that she wont be casting anymore. her voice and accent is just unsuitable for english casting, pure and simple. its not racist or anything (im Asian myself), but really thick accents is just harder to listen to. i find myself having to make a real effort to listen to her and even though i understand every word, it just doesnt flow as well as a commentator with an American/English/Australian accent. i have the exact same issue when i listen to my parents speak in English (we are chinese immigrants, but I came to NZ wen i was little so English is my native language). even though they are my parents its still difficult to understand what they are trying to convey. that's fine in a colloquial situation, but when you are doing professional casting for an International Competition where the target audience is essentially Europe, America, and australasia, its not a good idea. Good on her for trying but thank god she's leaving
andrewwiggin
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia435 Posts
March 10 2011 08:41 GMT
#783
LOL at the article:

Kelly: "I think the spotlight is on me because I am an asian and I am a female".

No. It was because you don't speak english that well. Which unfortunately, made it hard to understand and follow your commentating. Simple truth.



Don't get why people can't deal with this.

iamsatan
Profile Joined October 2010
United States109 Posts
March 10 2011 08:44 GMT
#784
Sucks for her personally but at least she go the opportunity to do something very very few people get to do in this world. I didn't like her as a caster, it sucks she can't just lose the thick accent but it is what it is. Honestly I just wish Tastosis would cast both code A and code S. I really like their passion, knowledge, and casting style. If anything the person they should bring into code A is Day9 but I doubt he would take the job until at least he gets his masters.
Gigadrill
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia52 Posts
March 10 2011 08:56 GMT
#785
The reaction to Kelly casting definitely was ridiculous and in many ways quite shameful but I do understand that some people have trouble understanding her accent.. Personally, I would love to see Kelly become an official code A caster.
rga31987
Profile Joined March 2011
7 Posts
March 10 2011 08:57 GMT
#786
I wish Kelly all the best in the future, wherever or whatever that might lead her to .

Good Luck Kelly! ^_^
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
March 10 2011 08:58 GMT
#787
On March 10 2011 15:52 storm44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 15:49 CoR wrote:
On March 10 2011 15:43 Buddhist wrote:
On March 10 2011 04:46 CrazyCow wrote:
Now I can stop watching Code A on mute.

User was temp banned for this post.

Er, why was this guy temp banned for that post? What a stupid, stupid post to temp ban someone for.

Everyone I know mutes code A when they watch it because of her. I'm the only one I know who doesn't, and that's probably dumb of me, because Kelly's pronunciation is maddening.

TL mods are beyond belief sometimes.

PS: I have no trouble understanding her. She just sounds stupid as fuck when she pronounces "stim" as "steam", and says shit like this:

"He forget to siege his tank?"

"He need to steam his marine?"

I add the question marks because her inflection makes everything sound like a question. Note the lack of pluralization.


ban because of bm is absolute ok ... and you should work on your manners too ,,,

kelly is a nice caster of course alot of guys have problem to understand her pronounce BUT saying WAH she is so bad lets mute it fuck fuck etc its no way to deal with it ... she doesnt deserve that !


honestly I wish I could understand her just like some other people can but I have to say that I had to mute the code a matches as well just because I couldn't enjoy the game otherwise


I didn't realize one caster could ruin it for so many people when there is another caster everyone apparently likes (Doa) OR one of Tastosis. You'd think having them there for the other half of the commentating duo would be reason enough not to mute Code A. TL;DR are most of you exaggerating the muting, or are you really that intolerant? People need to lower their expectations: not everyone's one of the big 3, and when you know someone's background is wc3/dota and a diamond SC2 player, it's easier to roll with it and remember that they aren't a permanent fixture. The mature option many people here resort to instead is akin to being nagged by a parent and covering your ears saying "NA NA NA NA NA."
thebig1
Profile Joined March 2011
248 Posts
March 10 2011 08:59 GMT
#788
Ok, i'm not one to normally to get into this sort of thing, but reading some people's comments blows me away.

It's not the people arguing over if she is understandable. I can decypher what she is saying, but I can see how people in parts of the world couldn't.

It's the people who say she has a good understanding of the game. As someone who DOESN'T EVEN PLAY STARCRAFT I can say: Are you crazy!? I may just be a bright guy, but she is CONSTANTLY saying things that make me do a double take and think I know more about the game than she does.

The first example of many that comes to my mind is the other day Alicia puts down a proxy Twilight Council and she says something along the lines of "On a proxy Twilight Council, looks like he is going for a quick blink". A QUICK BLINK!? Yeah, better hide the building that might make the opponent spend resources buying detection and risk having it destroyed while researching to get blink.

Some of the stuff she says is mind boggling.
khazgore
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway104 Posts
March 10 2011 09:07 GMT
#789
well i dont think shes as good as tasteless or artosis. but shes absolutely a decent commentator in my opinion. good luck in the future kelly
_DarkArchon_
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada24 Posts
March 10 2011 09:07 GMT
#790
+1 for GOMtv. I caster you cant understand (due to the fact that ENGLISH IS NOT THEIR NATIVE LANGUAGE) does not serve your cause well.
"Oblivion Awaits."
Axeinst
Profile Joined March 2011
Belize281 Posts
March 10 2011 09:17 GMT
#791
I dont understand those whiners who cannot understand his pronounciation.

I bet they are not native english speakers.
Tofugrinder
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria899 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 09:43:33
March 10 2011 09:42 GMT
#792
Cant these fuckin sexists shut up finally? They managed to make gom send a great caster away. She did a great job casting. She had knowledge and she spoke perfectly english - anyone disagreeing about the language should try to learn english themselves. I'm not a native speaker and my english isn't the best either but I understood everything she said without ANY problems.

I hope she takes all the sexists not too serious and maybe we'll see here again in Code A some time
TyrantPotato
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1541 Posts
March 10 2011 09:51 GMT
#793
On March 10 2011 18:42 Markus138 wrote:
Cant these fuckin sexists shut up finally? They managed to make gom send a great caster away. She did a great job casting. She had knowledge and she spoke perfectly english - anyone disagreeing about the language should try to learn english themselves. I'm not a native speaker and my english isn't the best either but I understood everything she said without ANY problems.

I hope she takes all the sexists not too serious and maybe we'll see here again in Code A some time


i can manage most accents. i could understand her fine. however the way she delivered her english. her grammer was not to the level an english commentator should have.

and i have to disagree with you with her having the knowledge. last i checked she was a platnium player, and by watching her casts she offered little to no analytical insight. only repeating what was said or explaining things completely wrong or irrelevent. therewere many times where you could tell from tasteless and artosis's voices that they just wanted to yell out wrong.

she is better commentator then most people on these forums. but she is not to standard for the english streaming of such a high level event.

and from the article posted earlier, i do hope she understands that the reason for the uproar against her was her lack of english grammar and knowledge. not because she is female and asian..... i mean koreans are asian arent they? and we are watching the gsl a primarily korean tournement.
Forever ZeNEX.
Tofugrinder
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria899 Posts
March 10 2011 09:56 GMT
#794
On March 10 2011 18:51 TyrantPotato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 18:42 Markus138 wrote:
Cant these fuckin sexists shut up finally? They managed to make gom send a great caster away. She did a great job casting. She had knowledge and she spoke perfectly english - anyone disagreeing about the language should try to learn english themselves. I'm not a native speaker and my english isn't the best either but I understood everything she said without ANY problems.

I hope she takes all the sexists not too serious and maybe we'll see here again in Code A some time


i can manage most accents. i could understand her fine. however the way she delivered her english. her grammer was not to the level an english commentator should have.

and i have to disagree with you with her having the knowledge. last i checked she was a platnium player, and by watching her casts she offered little to no analytical insight. only repeating what was said or explaining things completely wrong or irrelevent. therewere many times where you could tell from tasteless and artosis's voices that they just wanted to yell out wrong.

she is better commentator then most people on these forums. but she is not to standard for the english streaming of such a high level event.

and from the article posted earlier, i do hope she understands that the reason for the uproar against her was her lack of english grammar and knowledge. not because she is female and asian..... i mean koreans are asian arent they? and we are watching the gsl a primarily korean tournement.


she has an accent, yes. so does everyone not directly from England. Even Americans. Rotterdam e.g. is a great caster, one of the most famous in Europe, and has an accent - nobody cares.

she said herself she's in diamond walking the way up to masters. Which basically means she was on masters in SEA. DoA said for example that he was on the US Server in Platinum. I dont say that she has the knowledge of Artosis. But I think that's nothing anyone can ask for.
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
March 10 2011 09:59 GMT
#795
--- Nuked ---
Seraph.yongweihua
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada224 Posts
March 10 2011 10:06 GMT
#796
I'm sure most people understood what she was saying, it's just really would you want to subject yourself to that for an hour or two. I can make out what most of my foreign econ and stats profs who have accents are saying, but do I really want to subject myself to it for 1.5-3 hours every other day?
Maskedsatyr
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 10:07:41
March 10 2011 10:07 GMT
#797
Oops wrong thread.
"Don't believe in you who believes in me, don't believe in me who believes in you, believe in you...who believes in yourself!"
HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
March 10 2011 10:10 GMT
#798
thanks god. No offence
No carpal tunnel no skill
Graupe
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany178 Posts
March 10 2011 10:16 GMT
#799
just publicize a list of applicants and let the english speaking community decide!

biggest problem might be that everyone loves the casting archon and so our requirements for a "good" Code A caster/-team are way too high.


Really curious to see who will replace her or whoelse will have a shot at casting code A.
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 10:18:53
March 10 2011 10:17 GMT
#800
lol I'm sure she will be back in Korea soon enough. To all you people who say she wasn't good enough to be a caster, you have no idea what it takes to be a caster, and you ignorantly prefer to watch something that you're more accustomed to.
Sure you favor Tastosis, that doesn't make them better or Kelly worse. It means you prefer to see two guys casting over watching a girl casting.
Now she's taking a break as they try out other casters, but I'm sure she'll be back.

Edit: If you seriously can't understand Kelly's commentary, then YOU need to work on your English.
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