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PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
February 26 2011 03:31 GMT
#381
I don't get why they would remove shakuras. Shakuras was awesome, I know nobody that didn't like playing it.

I know dozens of people that dislike DQ.

The other maps are a welcome change of scenery.
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R0YAL
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1768 Posts
February 26 2011 03:35 GMT
#382
Every one of these new maps are just as bad as the old ones.. Why do they refuse to make maps with open space? These new maps are all just hallways. Shattered Temple replacing LT is the only improvement that I see. Taking out the best map Shakuras is a mistake as well -.-'
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Turbo.Tactics
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany675 Posts
February 26 2011 03:38 GMT
#383
On February 26 2011 12:11 tree.hugger wrote:
Shakuras Plateau!
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Shakruas Plateau
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SP
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Slag Pits
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Slag Pits!



Ok, that explains why Shakuras had to go!

But honestly... just give us the GSL map Blizzard. -.-
Zerg - because Browders sons hate 'em
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
February 26 2011 03:41 GMT
#384
On February 26 2011 08:25 Kashll wrote:
WHY WOULD THEY REMOVE SHAKURAS IT WAS BY FAR THE BEST MAP

I am completely baffled by this :s

I thought it was generally considered one of the best macro maps for all races. It is better than most of the maps already in the pool and certainlky better than all the new maps being added. If they are serious about this change I really wuestion if they even have the slightest clue what they are doing. Or if they are trying to balance the game by rolling dice and cutting random stuff wherever, just 'cause!
Honeybadger
Profile Joined August 2010
United States821 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 03:43:30
February 26 2011 03:43 GMT
#385
Close position backwater gulch is hilariously awful. Seriously, it's even closer than steppes.

If they changed it to long distance only, it'd be a very, VERY interesting map.

Why is shakuras gone? I LOVE that map.

New LT seems even easier to dominate the center as terran. nobody really cliff dropped anyways.

Other than that, I like the new maps. But where are the 1v1v1 maps? Those were amazing in BW.

Also, I prefer the GSL new maps to the blizz new maps. The GSL ones seemed far more balanced.
"I like to tape my thumbs to my hands to see what it would be like to be a dinosaur."
Alizee-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States845 Posts
February 26 2011 03:44 GMT
#386
I LOVEEEEEEE the changes to shattered temple. Seriously its the most broodwaresque change to a blizz map yet. Naturals are defendable and fairly promoted, middle is open enough, there's some break ups in the chokes, but not this 2 unit chokes where everything gets stuck and dies. I'm a toss player which sounds tarded for like the map, but its great. No islands, rocks, but double rocks delays attacks significantly to the point where people back off. Shattered temple is a good one that I'm really liking!
Strength behind the Pride
Turbo.Tactics
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany675 Posts
February 26 2011 03:48 GMT
#387
Please don't fight too hard for Shakuras.... i rather have them cut out all the old maps and get GSL maps than Blizzard addding shakuras back in and think they've done the community justice.
Zerg - because Browders sons hate 'em
daxile
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada829 Posts
February 26 2011 03:50 GMT
#388
new LT is good, the rest is bad

my 2c.
to live is to suffer
MagnusHyperion
Profile Joined August 2010
United States288 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 03:53:51
February 26 2011 03:51 GMT
#389
Commentary on maps:

Backwater Gulch: Natural is too far from main ramp. Additionally, two paths to natural from ramp up make defending natural against mobile forces almost impossible. 3rd base has a huge cliff next to it which is good... if you have siege tanks or colossus but terrible any other way.

Slag Pits: You have no fucking third. No fucking third. YOU HAVE NO THIRD. Main is very small with a HUGE open area along the sides making long range units incredibly painful (siege tank push your nexus fromt he low ground?)

Shattered Temple: I like this map, they opened up the middle making the play less 1 dimensional. They removed the ridiculous sight benefits of 2 towers by having a central 1. They removed the cliff which was retarded to deal with and didn't add enjoyable game play. I am not so sure I like the idea of close positions on this map but it is an improvement.

Typhon: This map is decent overall. It is probably better than the maps it replaced but the natural is VERY open and there are so many attack paths, I feel like heavy expansion play is going to be problematic. Decent map overall.

Summary: They replaced Jungle Basin, Steppes, and Blistering with Backwater Gulch and Slag Pits. Overall, 3 terrible maps removed, 2 terrible maps added so it is a net positive movement. I am not sure I like that Shakuras was removed considering that was the one map in the entire pool I felt played like a solid RTS map.

edit: I have been spoiled by the map makers for the GSL, their maps are gorgeous, promote good gameplay, and are well thought out. I should be happier but I feel like I have been let down by Blizzard again. It is one thing to be wrong and change, but to be wrong and continue to be wrong. That is maddening.
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StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
February 26 2011 03:52 GMT
#390
Delta Quadrant still in, Shakuras out. What a mess :\
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
February 26 2011 03:57 GMT
#391
havnt tried the new lost temple but got the other maps on ladder and oh man are they horrible....
i apperciate the effort from blizzard trying to make it happen themselves but seriously... they need to swallow their pride and admit that other people can make better maps... bring in GSL maps ploxxorz.
Team NSHoseo <3
Ilithyium
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark88 Posts
February 26 2011 03:58 GMT
#392
looking forward to this any date!?
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Strike_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands704 Posts
February 26 2011 04:02 GMT
#393
Removing shakuras plateau (imo the best ladder map) but not removing delta quadrant? And I had just gotten faith in blizzard after the replay and custom map changes ;(
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
February 26 2011 04:05 GMT
#394
Zerg player here. Here are my thoughts. (After a little 1v1)
1st look The new LT is great.
2nd look All of the new maps have slightly less chokes, cool.
3rd look Wait a second, I can't take a 3rd on any of these maps.
4th look Holy hell these are short rush distances.
5th look WTF BLIZZ IS WRONG WITH YOU

r.i.p. shakuras
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Neptuneajax
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia206 Posts
February 26 2011 04:08 GMT
#395
Sorry to say but these maps look pretty average. Blizzard had a chance to add some seriously cool maps seen in the GSL but opted to give us crappy clones of ones already made.
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 04:10:51
February 26 2011 04:09 GMT
#396
http://www.justin.tv/rootcatz?utm_campaign=live_embed_click&utm_source=www.teamliquid.net#/w/906727696

bunch of pros showcasing/talking/analysing new maps, currently sheth is playing drewbie on backwater something
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Neptuneajax
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia206 Posts
February 26 2011 04:11 GMT
#397
Sorry to say but these maps look pretty average. Blizzard had a chance to add some seriously cool maps seen in the GSL but opted to give us crappy clones of ones already made.
dc302
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia576 Posts
February 26 2011 04:11 GMT
#398
why did they removed shakuras...omg

also better start practicing on the new maps if i dont wanan go on a losing streak =P
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Coriolis
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 04:20:26
February 26 2011 04:13 GMT
#399
Is it just me or does typhon peaks look a LOT like circuit breaker from bw? Here is a comparison.
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Looks a LOT like they took out two bases, added water, and moved the third to me. And added gas to it.
Descolada in everything not TL/Starcraft
simbot
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia95 Posts
February 26 2011 04:13 GMT
#400
new temple and metalo are basically the same now...
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