We went down to Star Tale's ProGaming house to get some footage, and do some interviews. I asked the progamers all sorts of awesome stuff, including their opinions on who the best players in the world are, why they lost certain matches, and balance.
And before you ask, yes, we will be going to every single Pro-Team house to do these types of videos.
Can some one please explain to me the bedding rooms where the players sleep on mats. Does everyone in Korea do this or is it only a progamer thing? Just seems allitle foreign to me.
Thank a lot Artosis and Hwanni. I know Hwanni have contributed a lot to Starcraft English foreigner's community. He is the unsung hero to us and doesn't get much credit that he deserved. Hwanni does the best job of translating of all the translators I've seem, he'll translating paragraphs of speeches that progamers have spoken that other translators will not fully translate or shorten to the point.
I wish him well with whatever he is doing now and more success to him. I hope Artosis treat you many foods after all the translating you have done for us.
Sorry folks, Rainbow wasn't at the team house, he was away. July zerg just came outta shower before the interview :D.
I will make sure we can get more house tours.
(Koreans do sleep on the floor often. Custom thing kekekek. I sleep on the bed. I guess I am not a Korean after all. - then where am I from........LOL Aiur?
Thanks for the vids! I liked Hwanni's explanation for why Bomber switched from Protoss to Terran: He was owning up the ladder as protoss, but "after [in?] three games, somebody beat the shit out of him."
Thank you Artosis Thank you Artosis Thank you Artosis Thank you Artosis. Love these big batches of updates from the South Korean sc2 e-sports scene, especially the interviews and evironment! It's a nice way to get ud to know the players alot more and how it works over there. Loooove
I'm only recent to the starcraft scene (started with SC2) but I'm am quite impressed with Hwanni in these interviews. Thanks Hwanni you did a fantastic job and also added some personality to Artosis's interviews.
wish you could add subtitles for the video, i couldn't hear a word from the translator ( My bad English, I can only listen to American accent like Artosis.
On February 18 2011 12:07 hitman133 wrote: wish you could add subtitles for the video, i couldn't hear a word from the translator ( My bad English, I can only listen to American accent like Artosis.
Really? I found Hwanni ridiculously clear and easy to understand.
On February 18 2011 12:26 Xxio wrote: Watching these videos is such an enjoyable experience. No one else does this kind of stuff.
But nothing can surpass your Bisu interview (unless it's another Bisu interview)
Artosis keeping foreigners informed on the Korean scene. Once in SC1, now in SC2.
Man, I really wish July had a better group...
Oh! Thank you Hwanni!!
Well July did pick MC into his group so he is just that confident. I have to wonder if he'll make it out. At least he took out Bomber in that short clip at the end :D
On February 18 2011 11:51 Hwanni wrote: Sorry folks, Rainbow wasn't at the team house, he was away. July zerg just came outta shower before the interview :D.
I will make sure we can get more house tours.
(Koreans do sleep on the floor often. Custom thing kekekek. I sleep on the bed. I guess I am not a Korean after all. - then where am I from........LOL Aiur?
On February 18 2011 12:26 Xxio wrote: Watching these videos is such an enjoyable experience. No one else does this kind of stuff.
But nothing can surpass your Bisu interview (unless it's another Bisu interview)
Artosis keeping foreigners informed on the Korean scene. Once in SC1, now in SC2.
Man, I really wish July had a better group...
Oh! Thank you Hwanni!!
Well July did pick MC into his group so he is just that confident. I have to wonder if he'll make it out. At least he took out Bomber in that short clip at the end :D
Did he? Interesting. Is JulyZerg on big maps the future?
Ah nice but Torch already gave us a ST house tour you think you could hit up some of the other houses Artosis? i;m really interested in IM, from what ive heard they have the best food
Wow, Intel is really getting into SC2 and eSports in general. I've been really impressed with them recently!
And, to be honest, even though there wasn't much doubt that I would be going Intel in my next computer, this type of thing has really helped cement my loyalty to them. Bravo, Intel!
This is just pure gold for everyone trying to follow the korean scene. I hopeyou feel that you're getting an equal amount of love back for all the dedication you put in. Very very very nice!
On February 18 2011 12:26 Xxio wrote: Watching these videos is such an enjoyable experience. No one else does this kind of stuff.
But nothing can surpass your Bisu interview (unless it's another Bisu interview)
Artosis keeping foreigners informed on the Korean scene. Once in SC1, now in SC2.
Man, I really wish July had a better group...
Oh! Thank you Hwanni!!
Well July did pick MC into his group so he is just that confident. I have to wonder if he'll make it out. At least he took out Bomber in that short clip at the end :D
Did he? Interesting. Is JulyZerg on big maps the future?
Mhm, if July doesn't make it out of the group it's because he dug his own grave, but if he does make it out, his badass level will go off the charts
Artosis you are the man. Hwanni is a great translator and just provides a good presence in general. I hope you continue to utilize him in your travels!
On February 18 2011 12:26 Xxio wrote: Watching these videos is such an enjoyable experience. No one else does this kind of stuff.
But nothing can surpass your Bisu interview (unless it's another Bisu interview)
Artosis keeping foreigners informed on the Korean scene. Once in SC1, now in SC2.
Man, I really wish July had a better group...
Oh! Thank you Hwanni!!
Well July did pick MC into his group so he is just that confident. I have to wonder if he'll make it out. At least he took out Bomber in that short clip at the end :D
Did he? Interesting. Is JulyZerg on big maps the future?
He said that he picked MC because he did lose vs him in GSL Open S3 at the group ceremony.
On February 18 2011 13:01 Artosis wrote: already know the team ill show next week! no i wont tell u which!
Honestly most times when there is a translator involved I find myself being bothered because they usually do a poor job [ all things considered ] but hwanni and in the past susie do a great job with on the spot translations. People should be reassured that anything hwanni re-communicates is pretty damn accurate.
Did you notice that when Artosis said (thankyou? goodbye?) in korean and bowed, IMMEDIATLY hwanny and julyzerg started bowing too, like THAT WAS FAST!!! I`m really impressed by this because I lack so much social skill, when somebody wants to shake my hand I just stare at his hand wondering what to do with it....
after watching this, i feel even more sorry for all zerg users. i don't know if it was the translation or what, but july_zerg's metaphor or what you call it is damn funny hahhaa
Anyone know what kind of chairs we always see in these progammer houses? Wonder if there is a place to pick one of them up in the states. They got to be pretty decent if literally everyone uses them.
On February 18 2011 12:07 hitman133 wrote: wish you could add subtitles for the video, i couldn't hear a word from the translator ( My bad English, I can only listen to American accent like Artosis.
july interview? OMGWTFBBQ JUUUULLYYYYYYY and that panda shirt... just love that guy so much. seeing him in a interview is awesomestasticiously great :D
Artosis you are doing great work following the korean scene for foreigners and Hwanni is a freakin awesome translator, very outgoing and cool with the players.
wooohooo! This is why I love you Artosis, you go outta your way to provide us with more content in the SC2 e-sports scene in Korea. Super stoked for the other team houses. Also thanks to Hwanni for the awesome interviews.
Artosis you are a god among men. WIthout you the Korean starcraft scene would seem so distant. I have the highest respect for you and im sure just about everyone else on this website does too ^ ^
On February 18 2011 12:07 hitman133 wrote: wish you could add subtitles for the video, i couldn't hear a word from the translator ( My bad English, I can only listen to American accent like Artosis.
so great to get more and more insights on the life of korean pros and their view on balance. the "that's all the time we have" interviews from gsl always made me curious on more detailed ones. despite having were outspoken opinions about balance they seem to be less complaining about it and apparently just take it as something they have to cope with. also July is just a boss, i can't imagine there are many starcraft players more confident than him.
Schimmetje has liked these videos. A LOT. Thanks man, great stuff again, it's ridiculous how many cool videos you put out. Looking forward to the other houses!
Thanks for the interviews & tour Artosis, much appreciated!
On a side note, that translator seems like an awesome guy :D Usually it seems to me all Koreans are like super shy and almost afraid to look someone in the eyes (no offense), but the translator is not at all like that. Cool. He should also do the translations in GSL, or maybe every other day in a rotation scheme with John.
Artosis, maybe you know this? is it a room issue or this more common in Korea to not sleep on mattresses? i didnt see even a cot in that entire house are they all just sleeping on the floor? that got to be rough and i cant imagine a very good precursor to a good nights rest before a big match.
i remember that OGS/TL house had bunks i believe but im not sure if they had enough for all players.
I know when you went to the foreigner house they have i think 5 or 6 bunks.
So maybe i just answered my own Question but I was just curious as to what goes is customary there.
Hwanni is back. Hwanni is back. This footage was awesome.
I didnt like JulyZergs games in gsl, maybe because i expected way to much, but he is such a baller outside of games.
I just had an idea. Since John and Hwanni are the best translaters out there they should produce a seperate show, something like mtv-made in which Hwanni teaches John to be more confident and become a baller like him. That would be awesome. After 4 weeks John would be wearing a gracket and would be bitchslapping every progamer who dares to give standard answers about how hard they will train next time and this stupid blabla :-p. Damn now i really really want to see that :/
Keep those vids coming Artosis <3 your stuff so much.
July is right, they really need balance this game alittle to zergs favour!! Seems to me that Blizzard guys are playing Toss and Terran all day long and arent caring about zerg at all. But what can you do? Haters gonna hate
On February 18 2011 22:04 Vindubs wrote: Artosis, maybe you know this? is it a room issue or this more common in Korea to not sleep on mattresses? i didnt see even a cot in that entire house are they all just sleeping on the floor? that got to be rough and i cant imagine a very good precursor to a good nights rest before a big match.
i remember that OGS/TL house had bunks i believe but im not sure if they had enough for all players.
I know when you went to the foreigner house they have i think 5 or 6 bunks.
So maybe i just answered my own Question but I was just curious as to what goes is customary there.
Thanks Artosis, BTW enjoy your work very much.
Sleeping on the floor is common in Korea. Its not bad as one would think. But I think more and more beds are becoming common at least when I visited my relatives most had beds too.
On February 18 2011 22:04 Vindubs wrote: Artosis, maybe you know this? is it a room issue or this more common in Korea to not sleep on mattresses? i didnt see even a cot in that entire house are they all just sleeping on the floor? that got to be rough and i cant imagine a very good precursor to a good nights rest before a big match.
i remember that OGS/TL house had bunks i believe but im not sure if they had enough for all players.
I know when you went to the foreigner house they have i think 5 or 6 bunks.
So maybe i just answered my own Question but I was just curious as to what goes is customary there.
Thanks Artosis, BTW enjoy your work very much.
They're not sleeping on the bare floor. They have relatively thick/comfortable floor pads folded up and stored away during the day. It saves them some room and many buildings in Korea are still heated from below the floor, so it works well for them.
So all the interviewees felt terran was clearly the strongest and 3 of 4 the talked about zerg felt like zerg needs a buff. Protoss kind of ended up somewhere in the middle
Only 5 or 6 finals in 3 years July i am disappointed . Well for now i'll be satisfied if you make it out of your group and sent MC back to code A , but it will be tough with your first match being on Xel'Naga Cavern .
On February 19 2011 12:09 Full.tilt wrote: 3am and I was just about to go to bed, thanks Artosis I guess another hour up won't hurt!
Thanks to you and Hwanni for your great work as always.
Ya I was going to go to bed last night when I saw these. I was pretty pissed that I had to watch at least one interview. I ended up finishing it today and I just wanted to say they were very good. I was actually wondering not too long ago where Hwanni had gone so it is good to see him back. Looking forward to more team interviews. Keep it up Artosis!
On February 18 2011 13:33 JunkkaGom wrote: Stop cheating on me with other translators Dan
This made my day! omfg john we all still love you Artosis thx so much again for all the videos and content you make, can't wait for slayers and oGs house with the liquid guys there!
Awesome content as always. Just wanted to translate Ace's take on the balance question since his response was kind of long and was a bit too much for the translator.
Ace: For terran, their early/base units are too strong. Protoss late game tech is very good, but it's not like terran late game tech is bad either. The balance of the game is where it's at right now because of the strong early terran units. In terms of map balance, there's somewhat of a balance, but they really need modifications. I think zerg is the worst race currently. I was a zerg player as a BW pro gamer so I play zerg a lot and think about the race. Compared to bw, zerg fills up to 200/200 much faster, so if any of their base units receive buffs, zerg may become imbalanced. However right now, their current base units are too weak that there isn't much merit in a maxed out zerg army. I think how they deal with zerg will overall determine the balance of the game.
lap of luxury .....they sleep on the floor don't even have real beds . Except for the computers and comfy computer chairs I have been in apartments of illegal aliens that looked very similar to this here in the United States . They even have someone to cook and clean for them its called their Aunt. Buy these guys some beds and they need their own rooms or at least two to a room. Don't know why anyone from the wealthier countries would want to go sleep on the floor and live like this for any computer game.
On February 19 2011 20:08 RocketBOy wrote: lap of luxury .....they sleep on the floor don't even have real beds . Except for the computers and comfy computer chairs I have been in apartments of illegal aliens that looked very similar to this here in the United States . They even have someone to cook and clean for them its called their Aunt. Buy these guys some beds and they need their own rooms or at least two to a room. Don't know why anyone from the wealthier countries would want to go sleep on the floor and live like this for any computer game.
I think thats just a curtual thing, if im not mistaken sleeping on the floor is quite common in korea, and often their living places comes with floor heating. I also think its note worthy to remember that sleeping on the floor (given that the floor is properly heated and clean) its more benefitial to your health then to sleep in a very soft bed.
For me the most depressing was the life style, i like starcraft, but man, it just looked depressing playing all day long like that. Im not trying to offend anyone, thats just how i feel.
Every time I go outside and enjoy a beautiful sunny day I think to myself there's some poor Korean kid stuck in one room with eight or so other guys playing Starcraft2 every day and I just cant help but think my life is better. How do you beat people who are willing to sacrifice eight or nine years of living like that.
On February 21 2011 08:10 RocketBOy wrote: Every time I go outside and enjoy a beautiful sunny day I think to myself there's some poor Korean kid stuck in one room with eight or so other guys playing Starcraft2 every day and I just cant help but think my life is better. How do you beat people who are willing to sacrifice eight or nine years of living like that.
Some people like being inside. Just because you can't imagine doing what they do doesn't mean that it's a bad lifestyle for them. After all, you're essentially turning your hobby into your job, you live with people who share that passion and the whole team spirit thing is definitely a nice thing too. Of course, there's downsides, but with SC2 being a lot less demanding on the mechanics side and no KeSPA, this whole thing seems a lot more relaxed.
On February 21 2011 08:10 RocketBOy wrote: Every time I go outside and enjoy a beautiful sunny day I think to myself there's some poor Korean kid stuck in one room with eight or so other guys playing Starcraft2 every day and I just cant help but think my life is better. How do you beat people who are willing to sacrifice eight or nine years of living like that.
with a comment like this why do you even post on this site? Just because you don't see how they do it doesn't mean your life is better or more fun. People enjoy life how they want too they enjoy theirs playing sc2/bw all day.
I do wonder though, those progamer houses, all you see is them being silent minding their own practice. Do they even talk to eachother about BO's/TimingAttacks/Whatever besides lunch? I feel that if they got together and sit around a table for some time everyday discussing such things it would bring so much more motivation to the players themselves. Maybe it's happening already, correct me if I'm wrong.
On February 21 2011 08:10 RocketBOy wrote: Every time I go outside and enjoy a beautiful sunny day I think to myself there's some poor Korean kid stuck in one room with eight or so other guys playing Starcraft2 every day and I just cant help but think my life is better. How do you beat people who are willing to sacrifice eight or nine years of living like that.
Life is subjective. One persons enjoyment is another's disdainment. That said, personally, I don't know why they have a shared house when it would be better to pay them a salary and have them come in to work like any other profession. I would hate to be eight to a house -- and I would hate to not be able to bring a girl home. I personally enjoy gaming, and I would love to get paid to have fun (and 8 hour gaming sessions is short even for me).
Also, the Korean style is frankly highly inefficient. I think people highly underrate morale and motivation. You coop up ten people to a small confined area and they aren't going to be as efficient or work as hard as say a company which employs ten people, pays them a salary and gives them more freedom of choice and room to work in. If you aren't having fun, you aren't going to play as well -- just a fact in any activity you engage in.
The main reason Koreans are better than others in the game is because of the monetary factor. Once that expands more in the west expect to see as good of and if not better players than Koreans. American's aren't bred to be the best Baseball players in the world -- it is because we have the best monetary incentive to become the best, thus we are the best. Same with any sport.
PS: I am an INTJ and quite introverted (this does not mean anti-social by the way), and I enjoy being alone or with a select few people. It is just my personality type and I can't change it. It is roughly 2% of the population and we happen to be the most geared for analytical, scientific, more solo oriented activities. Of course we enjoy things say, an ENTP wouldn't. Doesn't mean the ENTP has a better life than an INTJ, just means that each person enjoys different things -- its the beauty of freedom and subjectivity.
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