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wOOt
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia121 Posts
February 17 2011 04:22 GMT
#381
Only 2 zergs in code S now
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DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
February 17 2011 04:26 GMT
#382
On February 17 2011 13:22 wOOt wrote:
Only 2 zergs in code S now


Woooooww. You are right =(. Funny thing is that the new GSL maps favor zerg but almost no Z in code S can exploit them.
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Wartortle
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia504 Posts
February 17 2011 04:28 GMT
#383
On February 17 2011 13:17 ryan1894 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 12:34 Rylaji wrote:
1. People are giving IdrA way too much credit. NO he wont steamroll any tournament at all, be realistic. Yes he's been to Korea, but this doesnt make him some sort of fucking demigod. THere are ALOT of good non korean player who could easily place good in the GSL.

2. Why is everyone assuming this is about money? Everyone isnt a greedy bitch, some people do things for other reasons.

3. People saying they will stop watching the GSL because ONE FUCKING PLAYER is leaving cant be a real SC fan.. GSL has by FAR the overall best quality of games still. No it's not at BW level YET. But neither is the EU/US scene. Korea is still number one, and dissing that due to ONE player leaving is just ridicilous. PLayers like MVP, MC, Marineking etc by far exceed any foreign player atm.


1. IdrA is the most successful foreign player yet.

3. GSL and Korea also have the most amount of 1 base timing pushes/all ins of all the servers.


your just wrong. jinro has gone further and regardless of the type of play on the server/gsl, it is still much better quality.
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
February 17 2011 04:32 GMT
#384
On February 17 2011 13:17 ryan1894 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 12:34 Rylaji wrote:
1. People are giving IdrA way too much credit. NO he wont steamroll any tournament at all, be realistic. Yes he's been to Korea, but this doesnt make him some sort of fucking demigod. THere are ALOT of good non korean player who could easily place good in the GSL.

2. Why is everyone assuming this is about money? Everyone isnt a greedy bitch, some people do things for other reasons.

3. People saying they will stop watching the GSL because ONE FUCKING PLAYER is leaving cant be a real SC fan.. GSL has by FAR the overall best quality of games still. No it's not at BW level YET. But neither is the EU/US scene. Korea is still number one, and dissing that due to ONE player leaving is just ridicilous. PLayers like MVP, MC, Marineking etc by far exceed any foreign player atm.


1. IdrA is the most successful foreign player yet.

3. GSL and Korea also have the most amount of 1 base timing pushes/all ins of all the servers.


3. That's only because the maps almost promoted it because it was the most sure-fire and quickest way to win. The new maps being used in the GSTL which will be used for GSL5 are much more macro-orientated
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
February 17 2011 04:35 GMT
#385
On February 17 2011 13:26 DeltruS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 13:22 wOOt wrote:
(T)Only 2 zergs in code S now


Woooooww. You are right =(. Funny thing is that the New GSL maps favor zerg but almost no Z in code S can exploit them.

Assuming you're talking about (Z)FruitDealer and (Z)NesTea, I guess that ZENEXKyrix, (Z)oGsZenio, (Z)July, and (Z)oGsTheWinD don't count.

Either way, that is a huge shame, especially for the viewers as, at least personally, the zerg matchups are amongst the best to watch. However, there is a huge amount of zergs in Code A and a lot have a good chance to go up.

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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
February 17 2011 04:38 GMT
#386
On February 17 2011 13:17 ryan1894 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 12:34 Rylaji wrote:
1. People are giving IdrA way too much credit. NO he wont steamroll any tournament at all, be realistic. Yes he's been to Korea, but this doesnt make him some sort of fucking demigod. THere are ALOT of good non korean player who could easily place good in the GSL.

2. Why is everyone assuming this is about money? Everyone isnt a greedy bitch, some people do things for other reasons.

3. People saying they will stop watching the GSL because ONE FUCKING PLAYER is leaving cant be a real SC fan.. GSL has by FAR the overall best quality of games still. No it's not at BW level YET. But neither is the EU/US scene. Korea is still number one, and dissing that due to ONE player leaving is just ridicilous. PLayers like MVP, MC, Marineking etc by far exceed any foreign player atm.


1. IdrA is the most successful foreign player yet.

3. GSL and Korea also have the most amount of 1 base timing pushes/all ins of all the servers.

3. GSL and Korea have the best executed 1 base timing pushes/all-ins in the world. They're games may be less entertaining than non-Korean games, but they still play at a much higher skill level than the rest of the world. They're inherently aggressive because aggression is the best way to win against passive players. The Koreans who macro actually macro quite well, yet they also play with the trademark Korean aggression that make the games more action-packed and less passive compared to non-Korean games.

No matter what, Korea will always be at the forefront of skill and the metagame due to their environment and culture, though non-Koreans are catching up in skill. It has been beneficial for Idra or any other Westerner to experience and be immersed in what is arguably one of the best cultures in the world for competitive gaming, and hopefully he will disseminate his newfound knowledge and experience with the rest of the NA scene.
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Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
February 17 2011 04:46 GMT
#387
On February 17 2011 13:22 wOOt wrote:
Only 2 zergs in code S now

O.o no, not even close... there were 2 zergs in the Top 8 though, now one of them left
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
February 17 2011 04:51 GMT
#388
The best part of this is how he intentionally trolled Clide and Zenio so that they have to play MVP/MC/July Ro16.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
February 17 2011 05:08 GMT
#389
Best of luck to Greg in the US, hopes he wins lots of tournies and gets lots of coverage looking forward to watching him play a lot more tournies, hopefully now his mic wont cut out on sotg :D
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apm66
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada943 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 05:10:47
February 17 2011 05:10 GMT
#390
IdrA coming back for NASL ? sweeeet! I guess this makes the NASL rumor even more true!
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ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
February 17 2011 05:12 GMT
#391
So much for foreigners in Korea, I guess there's still Jinro & Huk to look forward to, at least for now.
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Treemonkeys
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2082 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 05:13:41
February 17 2011 05:13 GMT
#392
On February 17 2011 13:22 wOOt wrote:
Only 2 zergs in code S now


lol but zergs are just greedy QQers, it's not a weak race...

There's more than 2 though...
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
February 17 2011 05:16 GMT
#393
On February 17 2011 13:51 DystopiaX wrote:
The best part of this is how he intentionally trolled Clide and Zenio so that they have to play MVP/MC/July Ro16.


He also guaranteed that Clide and Zenio probably won't have to play the up/down and risk dropping to Code A since they get a free win from Idra.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 05:24:51
February 17 2011 05:19 GMT
#394
On February 17 2011 13:17 ryan1894 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 12:34 Rylaji wrote:
1. People are giving IdrA way too much credit. NO he wont steamroll any tournament at all, be realistic. Yes he's been to Korea, but this doesnt make him some sort of fucking demigod. THere are ALOT of good non korean player who could easily place good in the GSL.

2. Why is everyone assuming this is about money? Everyone isnt a greedy bitch, some people do things for other reasons.

3. People saying they will stop watching the GSL because ONE FUCKING PLAYER is leaving cant be a real SC fan.. GSL has by FAR the overall best quality of games still. No it's not at BW level YET. But neither is the EU/US scene. Korea is still number one, and dissing that due to ONE player leaving is just ridicilous. PLayers like MVP, MC, Marineking etc by far exceed any foreign player atm.


1. IdrA is the most successful foreign player yet.

3. GSL and Korea also have the most amount of 1 base timing pushes/all ins of all the servers.


Why is it that people assume Koreans can't macro and can only all in? They all in because they're good at it. I have never seen aggression on the US Ladder the way I see it in Korean games. Most Koreans CAN macro very very well. I can believe Mvp macros better than say Jinro, who has amazing late game but not very good early game. Thing is, the best way to kill off a passive player is to hit him constantly with harass early on. Take Ret for example. The guy has very good macro. But what good is that when you literally make 40 drones before any lings? Just because you see Koreans rushing more than foreigners doesn't mean koreans can't macro. It means foreigners can't be aggressive. Watch some mlg games and notice how alot of the players can't even handle a simple poke early game.
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trikshun
Profile Joined October 2010
United States437 Posts
February 17 2011 05:21 GMT
#395
On February 17 2011 13:35 bennyaus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 13:26 DeltruS wrote:
On February 17 2011 13:22 wOOt wrote:
(T)Only 2 zergs in code S now


Woooooww. You are right =(. Funny thing is that the New GSL maps favor zerg but almost no Z in code S can exploit them.

Assuming you're talking about (Z)FruitDealer and (Z)NesTea, I guess that ZENEXKyrix, (Z)oGsZenio, (Z)July, and (Z)oGsTheWinD don't count.

Either way, that is a huge shame, especially for the viewers as, at least personally, the zerg matchups are amongst the best to watch. However, there is a huge amount of zergs in Code A and a lot have a good chance to go up.

+ Show Spoiler +
Cezanne, Ret, Yugioh/Leenock, Junwi, Moonglade, Losira


He means that can stand up to the Koreans. I think July would do okay and Moonglade/ret have a chance but NesTea FD and idrA were the only ones who could stand up to the top players
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
February 17 2011 05:25 GMT
#396
July sucks at ZvZ but he still took a game off of MC. We'll see how he plays, no idea how a Z is apparently better at ZvP than ZvZ.

I don't feel that Fruit Dealer is a particularly powerful player anymore. I'd put him as an A-class(not Code A) Zerg. Very good, just a step below where he should be to truly be one of the absolute greatest.

Out of all of the Code A Zergs, my hope lies in Losira. Dude's a boss.
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emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
February 17 2011 05:38 GMT
#397
I am saddened that he won't be in the GSL, I watch the GSL for players like him but it's cool I think it will be sick to see him come back home and do well.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
February 17 2011 05:39 GMT
#398
On February 17 2011 14:25 Turgid wrote:
July sucks at ZvZ but he still took a game off of MC. We'll see how he plays, no idea how a Z is apparently better at ZvP than ZvZ.

I don't feel that Fruit Dealer is a particularly powerful player anymore. I'd put him as an A-class(not Code A) Zerg. Very good, just a step below where he should be to truly be one of the absolute greatest.

Out of all of the Code A Zergs, my hope lies in Losira. Dude's a boss.


July's understanding of ZvZ goes..

Banelings > Roaches.

And hence his problem.
secret - never again
FlamingTurd
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1059 Posts
February 17 2011 09:17 GMT
#399
Damn, thats really disappointing, however I really hope IdrA will win all the tournaments outside of S. Korea for sure!
Nerf MMMT!!! Liquid`Ret Hwaiting!!!
SladeR
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada61 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 09:23:20
February 17 2011 09:22 GMT
#400
imo nasl should have been delayed till after idra could dominate code s. despide the "imbalence"
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