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XDsCrazy
Profile Joined February 2003
Canada119 Posts
February 16 2011 21:16 GMT
#361
Lots of you guys act like if Korea will be the place to be for esport FOREVER !
Why cant a similar scene devellop in NA/Europe ? Its really possible and it will result in players with the same skills as the Korean.

Just take that move as an opportunity to esport out of korea to grow and catch up !
G-_-L
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
February 16 2011 21:20 GMT
#362
I'm.. concerned. The way this went.. it feels like something bad happened..

Free wins? I can't imagine those being given out very easily.

That said, the Gracken is going to absolutely tear some foreigner noobies apart.
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
okrane
Profile Joined April 2010
France265 Posts
February 16 2011 21:22 GMT
#363
On February 17 2011 06:16 XDsCrazy wrote:
Lots of you guys act like if Korea will be the place to be for esport FOREVER !
Why cant a similar scene devellop in NA/Europe ? Its really possible and it will result in players with the same skills as the Korean.

Just take that move as an opportunity to esport out of korea to grow and catch up !


Well its is the best place for E-sports because of the culture that embraces e-sports and supports it and not considers it to be some sort of weird teen unhealthy obsession...

as well as the fact that from what I've learned about the Korean culture, they are extremely dedicated to their work and are able to put countless of hours into practice and improving their skill. This can only mean that the skill level will always be higher than in NA.
Really disappointed with Starcraft II Zerg! :(
Thezzphai
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1145 Posts
February 16 2011 23:19 GMT
#364
I'm a sad panda now was looking forward to his games vs Zenio and Clide...
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
February 16 2011 23:23 GMT
#365
On February 17 2011 08:19 Thezzphai wrote:
I'm a sad panda now was looking forward to his games vs Zenio and Clide...

Same but Idra still wins Troll of the year for his move of picking groups
WWJD (What Would Jaedong Do)
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
February 17 2011 02:26 GMT
#366
While I understand his decision, I have to say as a fan I'm a little disappointed.

My favorite part of GSL was watching this angry white dude go up against the toughest competition in the world on a regular basis.

He's not going to be the underdog anymore.

Anyway, his decision to capitalize on his talent as the North American scene grows and emerges makes a lot a sense; good on him.

CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
February 17 2011 02:31 GMT
#367
I wonder if he would have a different mindset if he was taking GSL titles currently.

Can't deny that there's no place like home and I look forward to seeing him in the USA again.

gL!
~ The Ultimate Weapon
Hypatio
Profile Joined September 2010
549 Posts
February 17 2011 02:37 GMT
#368
I hope the Gracken will still return to Korea every now and then to compete with the best over there still.
Jerax
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada189 Posts
February 17 2011 02:48 GMT
#369
Feels like a matter of easy money for Idra, he'll tear up IEM and MLG with ease. More of a business decision than anything imo.
RESTRiCT
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada123 Posts
February 17 2011 02:50 GMT
#370
NASL.TV <3 its happening, all the evidence is here..

SO PUMPED
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
February 17 2011 02:51 GMT
#371
I'm happy, the grack can help us make the esports scene in america grow! Hopefully become equal if not greater than what korea has now.
Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
February 17 2011 02:52 GMT
#372
is the gracken's arrive in USA somehow tied with incontrol's top secret cock tease announcement of announcements? :0
~\(。◕‿‿◕。)/~,,,,,,,,>
darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
February 17 2011 02:53 GMT
#373
The news that Incontrol is holding back must be big if Idra is coming too
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
February 17 2011 02:56 GMT
#374
i think the very top-heavy prize money distribution of the gsl is really making it an unattractive choice compared to all the small and midsized tournaments going on in NA/EU.

even the best player in the world cant expect to make it to the code S finals on a regular basis; every 3rd season is probably the highest any player can reasonably expect.

but maybe his decision does not only have to do with opportunities to earn money but also with personal reasons. maybe he was finally starting to get sick of sitting in his lonely appartment grinding games on the ladder without too many online friends or practice partners day in day out.... the liquid guys have each other aswell as the ogs guys and the ogs guys´ friends to practice and discuss - but who does idra have? the EG house didnt make it into reality and most koreans hate him and dont want to practice with him. ret and artosis wont have too much time for him and what about T or P practice partners? it must have been an extremely lonely time for him, being isolated not only in rl but also online.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Clare
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States372 Posts
February 17 2011 02:57 GMT
#375
On February 17 2011 11:53 darklordjac wrote:
The news that Incontrol is holding back must be big if Idra is coming too


Yeah, I agree. If IdrA is going to leave Korea and Code S it's gotta be for something big.
The dashboard melted but we still had the radio.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 02:59:26
February 17 2011 02:57 GMT
#376
On February 17 2011 11:31 cca1ss1e wrote:
I wonder if he would have a different mindset if he was taking GSL titles currently.


I'm 100% positive that he would still be staying there. At the end of the day, it's all about the dough. This new NA league that will spring up probably won't have the same level of prizes throughout the year as the GSL (I highly doubt that they can rival the 1.5 million total USD the GSL has this year), but the competition will be much weaker at the top. IdrA obviously has a much bigger chance of making more money in that environment. If there is one thing to blame, it's the top-heavy prize structure of the GSL code S, and the lack of other secondary tournaments in Korea.

It is also an intelligent decision, because it doesn't seem like SC2 is going to take off in Korea any time soon. BW still commands 80-90% of the corporate sponsorships, and that's where the real money is.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
February 17 2011 03:05 GMT
#377
On February 17 2011 11:56 Black Gun wrote:
i think the very top-heavy prize money distribution of the gsl is really making it an unattractive choice compared to all the small and midsized tournaments going on in NA/EU.

even the best player in the world cant expect to make it to the code S finals on a regular basis; every 3rd season is probably the highest any player can reasonably expect.

but maybe his decision does not only have to do with opportunities to earn money but also with personal reasons. maybe he was finally starting to get sick of sitting in his lonely appartment grinding games on the ladder without too many online friends or practice partners day in day out.... the liquid guys have each other aswell as the ogs guys and the ogs guys´ friends to practice and discuss - but who does idra have? the EG house didnt make it into reality and most koreans hate him and dont want to practice with him. ret and artosis wont have too much time for him and what about T or P practice partners? it must have been an extremely lonely time for him, being isolated not only in rl but also online.


I'll refrain about imagining another guy's personal life.

The actual distribution of money in the GSL seems fine. It's the commitment and length of the seasons are that severely limit players options. Not to mention how long players have to wait to just qualify.

If the GSL massaged their schedule so players had time to play in multiple tournaments (either spread the season out longer or make the tournaments faster) than it would be less of an issue. If they just wrapped up the Code A and Up and Down tournaments in a couple of weekends, it would probably give players the option of flying in to compete versus having to sacrifice their whole life just for a shot at Code S.


Rylaji
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden580 Posts
February 17 2011 03:34 GMT
#378
1. People are giving IdrA way too much credit. NO he wont steamroll any tournament at all, be realistic. Yes he's been to Korea, but this doesnt make him some sort of fucking demigod. THere are ALOT of good non korean player who could easily place good in the GSL.

2. Why is everyone assuming this is about money? Everyone isnt a greedy bitch, some people do things for other reasons.

3. People saying they will stop watching the GSL because ONE FUCKING PLAYER is leaving cant be a real SC fan.. GSL has by FAR the overall best quality of games still. No it's not at BW level YET. But neither is the EU/US scene. Korea is still number one, and dissing that due to ONE player leaving is just ridicilous. PLayers like MVP, MC, Marineking etc by far exceed any foreign player atm.
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drcatellino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada346 Posts
February 17 2011 04:08 GMT
#379
Well time for TeamLiquid to change the time zone from that gimmicky Korean Standard Time to GST since America is the new Korea.
quote unquote
ryan1894
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia264 Posts
February 17 2011 04:17 GMT
#380
On February 17 2011 12:34 Rylaji wrote:
1. People are giving IdrA way too much credit. NO he wont steamroll any tournament at all, be realistic. Yes he's been to Korea, but this doesnt make him some sort of fucking demigod. THere are ALOT of good non korean player who could easily place good in the GSL.

2. Why is everyone assuming this is about money? Everyone isnt a greedy bitch, some people do things for other reasons.

3. People saying they will stop watching the GSL because ONE FUCKING PLAYER is leaving cant be a real SC fan.. GSL has by FAR the overall best quality of games still. No it's not at BW level YET. But neither is the EU/US scene. Korea is still number one, and dissing that due to ONE player leaving is just ridicilous. PLayers like MVP, MC, Marineking etc by far exceed any foreign player atm.


1. IdrA is the most successful foreign player yet.

3. GSL and Korea also have the most amount of 1 base timing pushes/all ins of all the servers.
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