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Discussion has been moved here: NASL Details
KoshkaTV
Profile Joined October 2010
United States430 Posts
February 16 2011 18:22 GMT
#381
Didn't Incontrol setup a coaching/training site and charge $100 for a subscription? I heard they then never updated the video's and stuff....cuz the webmaster was having a baby.

This is why Idra came back to NA?

InControl = Yoko Ono of SC2

www.KoshkaTV.com
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
February 16 2011 18:26 GMT
#382
this should be fun :D looking forward to it
tyrless
Profile Joined July 2010
United States485 Posts
February 16 2011 18:28 GMT
#383
I'm going to be disappointed if this league is run solely by EG :/
Soma.bokforlag
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden448 Posts
February 16 2011 18:28 GMT
#384
i know this is a kind off stupid reason for not liking the NASL, but i like when theres one superior super league with all the best players. as a hockey fan i really love it that the NHL is the league to follow these days, compared to a few decades ago when the great players of the world were scattered between america and europe.

the GSL was this superior league with all the great players, with more and more foreigners being channeled in with the new code a-system, and i was already getting excited by seeing where this was heading in a few months..

now, most of the great koreans will be in korea, most great americans in NA and europeans in europe.. sure, there will be world championships and stuff like that, but there will only be a few battles and not real proof of whos the best.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 16 2011 18:31 GMT
#385
On February 17 2011 02:57 CursedFeanor wrote:
Show nested quote +
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 17 2011 02:42 Slusher wrote:
I hope if this is true it does not stand for North America. I know this sounds dumb and it is "semantics" but I think it makes it sound lesser to be named for one contenent when for this to be a truely great league it will need at least European support(player wise).


Geographically speaking, it'd be unreasonable to expect a high quantity of europeans playing consistently in this league (unless there's some online section), so the North America notation seems appropriate to me (and I'm very glad it's not called the USSL).

Plus we can always hope to see a similar league pop up in Europe, which would just provide us with more amazing sc2 action!

Now I just wonder about the details of the league... I really cant wait for the 21st!!! I'd be so trilled if they got a TV spot from G4, it'd be beyond awesome.


I do feel the tournament being live is important, thats a lot of what makes for instance the GSTL better than the GCPL which would not be the case if these games had been live (yes the final was the best, but the GCPL has week in week out put out great games unlike the preliminary rounds of the GSTL.). So more than anything else I agree with you it being first live, and secondly if we are lucky on tv, are both awesome and important.

That being said, and I know I'm asking a lot, of the players and the league. This can only ever be a lesser league if there are no European players in it. at assembly we had like 6 different players in interviews say NA has the weakest server. At what round would the excitement begin in this NA only tournament that you speak of?

I want this to be huge, I want this to be awesome, just like you do. But if I could tell call my parents and be like hey there is this awesome game that I love to watch and it's going to be on tv tonight so you check it out, I'd want them to see something that would make them watch it again, and I don't think you can get that without NA+EU players.
Carrilord has arrived.
Barnabas
Profile Joined April 2010
United States74 Posts
February 16 2011 18:33 GMT
#386
Couldn't hype this enough. Where do I send donation checks? Lol.
I'm Barnabas. You haven't heard of me. Gosu Camp Attendee.
Vehemus
Profile Joined November 2010
United States586 Posts
February 16 2011 18:34 GMT
#387
On February 17 2011 03:28 Soma.bokforlag wrote:
i know this is a kind off stupid reason for not liking the NASL, but i like when theres one superior super league with all the best players. as a hockey fan i really love it that the NHL is the league to follow these days, compared to a few decades ago when the great players of the world were scattered between america and europe.

the GSL was this superior league with all the great players, with more and more foreigners being channeled in with the new code a-system, and i was already getting excited by seeing where this was heading in a few months..

now, most of the great koreans will be in korea, most great americans in NA and europeans in europe.. sure, there will be world championships and stuff like that, but there will only be a few battles and not real proof of whos the best.


Sure, I understand this sentiment but think about the rivalry and debate it can cause. People who are a fan of one league over another, debates over the talent level in Korea versus NA or EU pros and that sort of thing.

You may not understand this reference in your country, but think of it how the USFL was competing with the NFL when it was still around. There was plenty of talent in the USFL and people found time to watch both leagues.

Or better yet, think of it like the AFL and NFL before the Super Bowl. Perhaps there can be some sort of GSL versus NASL "Super Bowl" once a year at some point.
This space for rent.
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
February 16 2011 18:37 GMT
#388
On February 17 2011 03:34 Vehemus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 03:28 Soma.bokforlag wrote:
i know this is a kind off stupid reason for not liking the NASL, but i like when theres one superior super league with all the best players. as a hockey fan i really love it that the NHL is the league to follow these days, compared to a few decades ago when the great players of the world were scattered between america and europe.

the GSL was this superior league with all the great players, with more and more foreigners being channeled in with the new code a-system, and i was already getting excited by seeing where this was heading in a few months..

now, most of the great koreans will be in korea, most great americans in NA and europeans in europe.. sure, there will be world championships and stuff like that, but there will only be a few battles and not real proof of whos the best.


Sure, I understand this sentiment but think about the rivalry and debate it can cause. People who are a fan of one league over another, debates over the talent level in Korea versus NA or EU pros and that sort of thing.

You may not understand this reference in your country, but think of it how the USFL was competing with the NFL when it was still around. There was plenty of talent in the USFL and people found time to watch both leagues.

Or better yet, think of it like the AFL and NFL before the Super Bowl. Perhaps there can be some sort of GSL versus NASL "Super Bowl" once a year at some point.


GomTV is already planning something like this, plus there's Blizzcon and possibly WCG.

Oh my God I'm so HYPED
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
odaxium
Profile Joined October 2010
United States356 Posts
February 16 2011 18:40 GMT
#389
Definitively cool to see a NA league being setup, can't wait to hear more details
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
February 16 2011 18:44 GMT
#390
Good job messing up their countdown... why couldn't you just wait until they would announce it themselves?
This is our town, scrub
SlyinZ
Profile Joined August 2010
France199 Posts
February 16 2011 18:45 GMT
#391
NASL is already the north american soccer league.
hmsrenown
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1263 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 18:51:02
February 16 2011 18:47 GMT
#392
On February 17 2011 03:28 Soma.bokforlag wrote:
i know this is a kind off stupid reason for not liking the NASL, but i like when theres one superior super league with all the best players. as a hockey fan i really love it that the NHL is the league to follow these days, compared to a few decades ago when the great players of the world were scattered between america and europe.

the GSL was this superior league with all the great players, with more and more foreigners being channeled in with the new code a-system, and i was already getting excited by seeing where this was heading in a few months..

now, most of the great koreans will be in korea, most great americans in NA and europeans in europe.. sure, there will be world championships and stuff like that, but there will only be a few battles and not real proof of whos the best.

Watching NHL doesn't deter you from watching Olympic hockey or World Championship or World Juniors right? NHL vs international hockey is a good analogy for GSL vs the potential league.

Maybe they will be GSL players maybe there won't. But this new league is definitely gonna be huge, and has great potentials. And before EPS goes global, this is gonna be THE international starleague.
CursedFeanor
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada539 Posts
February 16 2011 18:48 GMT
#393
On February 17 2011 03:45 SlyinZ wrote:
NASL is already the north american soccer league.


And GSL was already the GNU Scientific Library... Who cares? Since those are entirely different subjects, it really doesn't matter! And it's not like soccer is well known or important around here anyway...
HelloSon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States456 Posts
February 16 2011 18:50 GMT
#394
On February 17 2011 03:34 Vehemus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 03:28 Soma.bokforlag wrote:
i know this is a kind off stupid reason for not liking the NASL, but i like when theres one superior super league with all the best players. as a hockey fan i really love it that the NHL is the league to follow these days, compared to a few decades ago when the great players of the world were scattered between america and europe.

the GSL was this superior league with all the great players, with more and more foreigners being channeled in with the new code a-system, and i was already getting excited by seeing where this was heading in a few months..

now, most of the great koreans will be in korea, most great americans in NA and europeans in europe.. sure, there will be world championships and stuff like that, but there will only be a few battles and not real proof of whos the best.


Sure, I understand this sentiment but think about the rivalry and debate it can cause. People who are a fan of one league over another, debates over the talent level in Korea versus NA or EU pros and that sort of thing.

You may not understand this reference in your country, but think of it how the USFL was competing with the NFL when it was still around. There was plenty of talent in the USFL and people found time to watch both leagues.

Or better yet, think of it like the AFL and NFL before the Super Bowl. Perhaps there can be some sort of GSL versus NASL "Super Bowl" once a year at some point.

some type of Champions League would be better than a Super Bowl.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Champions_League
yo
Baggiez
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom24 Posts
February 16 2011 18:53 GMT
#395
On February 17 2011 03:34 Vehemus wrote:Sure, I understand this sentiment but think about the rivalry and debate it can cause. People who are a fan of one league over another, debates over the talent level in Korea versus NA or EU pros and that sort of thing.

You may not understand this reference in your country, but think of it how the USFL was competing with the NFL when it was still around. There was plenty of talent in the USFL and people found time to watch both leagues.

Or better yet, think of it like the AFL and NFL before the Super Bowl. Perhaps there can be some sort of GSL versus NASL "Super Bowl" once a year at some point.


By debate you mean whine, right? "Tournament A is crap because x, y & z are the best and they are playing in Tournament B".

I too will have time to watch both leagues, but there is a certain prestige associated with the GSL for me, one that won't be displaced by a potential NASL setup.
The Icon
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada111 Posts
February 16 2011 18:56 GMT
#396
On February 17 2011 03:47 hmsrenown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 03:28 Soma.bokforlag wrote:
i know this is a kind off stupid reason for not liking the NASL, but i like when theres one superior super league with all the best players. as a hockey fan i really love it that the NHL is the league to follow these days, compared to a few decades ago when the great players of the world were scattered between america and europe.

the GSL was this superior league with all the great players, with more and more foreigners being channeled in with the new code a-system, and i was already getting excited by seeing where this was heading in a few months..

now, most of the great koreans will be in korea, most great americans in NA and europeans in europe.. sure, there will be world championships and stuff like that, but there will only be a few battles and not real proof of whos the best.

Watching NHL doesn't deter you from watching Olympic hockey or World Championship or World Juniors right? NHL vs international hockey is a good analogy for GSL vs the potential league.


Terrible analogy actually, because in all of those hockey scenarios the best players in the world are playing. Clubs from the best leagues in the world send their teams to represent their countries in the highest profile international tournaments in the world, barring injury or personal reasons all the best players are playing at any given time in each of these examples.

Where-as you're probably not going to see IdrA/HuK/Nestea/MC compete in all the GSL's and all the MLG's and all the (potential) NASL's (whatever it turns out to be). They will be heavily segregated and one will not be "the" place for players to gravitate to like SKorea was for BW.
pHelix Equilibria
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1134 Posts
February 16 2011 18:58 GMT
#397
I believe this a 100%. All coinciding with Idra coming back and the WHOIS registration. And the acronym? Genius.
CellTech
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada396 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 19:04:03
February 16 2011 19:02 GMT
#398
EG vs. FnaticMSI vs ROOT vs VT vs LG vs MYM(maybe please.....)etc...

:D
^ Probably a Troll Post
bmml
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom962 Posts
February 16 2011 19:07 GMT
#399
On February 17 2011 03:56 The Icon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 03:47 hmsrenown wrote:
On February 17 2011 03:28 Soma.bokforlag wrote:
i know this is a kind off stupid reason for not liking the NASL, but i like when theres one superior super league with all the best players. as a hockey fan i really love it that the NHL is the league to follow these days, compared to a few decades ago when the great players of the world were scattered between america and europe.

the GSL was this superior league with all the great players, with more and more foreigners being channeled in with the new code a-system, and i was already getting excited by seeing where this was heading in a few months..

now, most of the great koreans will be in korea, most great americans in NA and europeans in europe.. sure, there will be world championships and stuff like that, but there will only be a few battles and not real proof of whos the best.

Watching NHL doesn't deter you from watching Olympic hockey or World Championship or World Juniors right? NHL vs international hockey is a good analogy for GSL vs the potential league.


Terrible analogy actually, because in all of those hockey scenarios the best players in the world are playing. Clubs from the best leagues in the world send their teams to represent their countries in the highest profile international tournaments in the world, barring injury or personal reasons all the best players are playing at any given time in each of these examples.

Where-as you're probably not going to see IdrA/HuK/Nestea/MC compete in all the GSL's and all the MLG's and all the (potential) NASL's (whatever it turns out to be). They will be heavily segregated and one will not be "the" place for players to gravitate to like SKorea was for BW.


I occasionally have been known to watch the premiership, championship and la liga.
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
February 16 2011 19:09 GMT
#400
On February 17 2011 03:28 tyrless wrote:
I'm going to be disappointed if this league is run solely by EG :/

iNcontroL moved to California with his life partner Gretorp, so Fnatic has a part in this too.
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