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If you have criticism, you need to address the content, not the hosts. Idra and Artosis are 2 (1.5) Zerg players, but you can't point that out and then blanket them as biased. Respond to the content.

You can't tell them to "get 2 Terran and Protoss players". That's fucking obtuse advice. "Yo just get 4 more high level players to record with you." Yes, I think everyone sees the value in getting it, but it's not practical.

Respond to the content and use evidence / logic to back up your claims.
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
February 03 2011 01:04 GMT
#41
On February 03 2011 10:02 CecilSunkure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2011 10:00 Tergeron wrote:
Potentially bad idea having Idra with you, but more content is always appreciated. Thanks for this!

Oh cmon Idra's views are really rather intelligent and thought out. Just because he rages in game doesn't mean he's wrong.

Yeah. IdrA's complaints are often heat-of-the-moment complaints, similar to how you just finish arguing with someone and an hour later you realize what you should've said. That aside, he has one of the best analytical abilities in the scene.
bruteMax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada339 Posts
February 03 2011 01:04 GMT
#42
An unexpected 30min of Artosis + Idra talking SC2!?!?! Damn I'm chuffed!
I'm the benevolent dictator you've been looking for.
charlie420247
Profile Joined November 2009
United States692 Posts
February 03 2011 01:07 GMT
#43
On February 03 2011 09:49 Skyze wrote:

If people would just spend more time analyzing replays and understanding why they lost, instead of instantly saying the "I" word or proclaiming something is OVERPOWERED.. we would all be better off.. Clearly, in the GSL we have a nice distribution of all 3 races, every matchup is winnable.



actually if you look at the breakdown in the lastest season of gsl youll notice that there is like no zergs and the ones that did make it fairly far lost hard as soon as they played a decent player.
there are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who dont.
charlie420247
Profile Joined November 2009
United States692 Posts
February 03 2011 01:10 GMT
#44
On February 03 2011 09:57 Cent wrote:
Soooo.... Wait.

You think that reapers post nerf is balanced? That no one builds reapers anymore, save for maybe scouting in a few matchups? And even then, only one? Your definition of balanced is nerfed-so-hard-no-one-uses-it-anymore?

Cool bro. I guess lings/bling/muta is OP since its so widely used LOLOLOLOL


i actually think reapers were insanely OP untill the nerfed em. now they are hardly viable.... this happend to the roach as well. was insanely op then was nerfed so hard they were a joke befor they were buffed again.
there are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who dont.
Vari
Profile Joined September 2010
United States532 Posts
February 03 2011 01:11 GMT
#45
THIS IS AMAZING

love it artosis. so awesome.
Stroke Me Lady Fame
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
February 03 2011 01:12 GMT
#46
What about neural parasite on the colossus? and Borrow Roaches?
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
February 03 2011 01:12 GMT
#47
Artosis, hey man, how are you? Cool. Look, I really like you, REALLY! But please, what is this rubbish? It makes you look silly. It's not a show about imbalance it's a show about "my race is underpowered".
Oh no
B12ad
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States137 Posts
February 03 2011 01:12 GMT
#48
I think the best way to deal with colossi as zerg is swarming a whole protoss army with roach ling baneling drops. :D
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
February 03 2011 01:12 GMT
#49
Oh god. A show about imbalance from Idra and Artosis! As a Terran this is my worst nightmare, but I can't wait to see it. Gonna go watch it now!
Liquid FIGHTING!!!
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-03 01:13:23
February 03 2011 01:13 GMT
#50
players get flamed for balance complaints because they all whine subjectively about the race they play themselves, therefor it's hard to take it serious. maybe if artosis and idra started saying zerg is overpowered that would be cool.
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AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
February 03 2011 01:14 GMT
#51
I thought this was an Infested Archon article until I read that your username is indeed Artosis. Oh man...
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
February 03 2011 01:15 GMT
#52

On February 03 2011 09:49 Skyze wrote:

If people would just spend more time analyzing replays and understanding why they lost, instead of instantly saying the "I" word or proclaiming something is OVERPOWERED.. we would all be better off.. Clearly, in the GSL we have a nice distribution of all 3 races, every matchup is winnable.



yea theres plenty of zerg representation. Yes
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Foreplay
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1154 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-03 21:04:03
February 03 2011 01:17 GMT
#53
do we really need another reason for angry nerds to incite balance discussions? That being said i havent watched it yet so it might not be that bad.

edit: Forgot to edit this after watching. It ended up being a lot better than i expected a show called "Imbalanced" by idra and artosis to be. I still feel like everything in it has already been discussed to death though.

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Better than Pokebunny
Juxx
Profile Joined April 2010
325 Posts
February 03 2011 01:17 GMT
#54
man if morrow ever wins a tournament this show will be pretty much shot.

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Grubby Fighting!
cmgillett
Profile Joined March 2010
United States335 Posts
February 03 2011 01:17 GMT
#55
this is just another zerg whine-show.. "Let's put tvp to the side andddddd (guess what?) talk about ZvP". Too biased for my liking tbh.

User was temp banned for this post.
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-04 20:29:11
February 03 2011 01:17 GMT
#56
so artosis and idra start talking over imballanced. great.
wait a minute, didnt they talk over imballanced every time one of them open there mouth.
A video with artosis and idra and no one say something about blance for 30 sec

that would be new...

User was warned for this post

my first warning on teamliquid ever and than for such a broing topic
i hoped i get it for something better . sorry
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iEchoic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-03 01:57:36
February 03 2011 01:17 GMT
#57
Artosis:

You cannot go into any LR thread, you can't go into any forum thread without balance coming up


HMM, I WONDER WHY.

All this does is cause bronze-plat players to blame their losses on imbalance and shit up every thread on here. Why give them ammunition?
vileEchoic -- clanvile.com
bLzBadman
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand36 Posts
February 03 2011 01:17 GMT
#58
thanks for doin this, it was very interesting

Artosis and Idra = Win
Starstuff
Profile Joined January 2009
Croatia60 Posts
February 03 2011 01:18 GMT
#59
"Welcome to Imbalanced, the show about imbalance and not for those who are feint of heart or those with over inflated egos..."
oh, the irony.
And I guess I was wrong... they can be even more biased.
Always remember that you are unique... Just like everyone else.
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
February 03 2011 01:18 GMT
#60
On February 03 2011 10:15 SubtleArt wrote:

Show nested quote +
On February 03 2011 09:49 Skyze wrote:

If people would just spend more time analyzing replays and understanding why they lost, instead of instantly saying the "I" word or proclaiming something is OVERPOWERED.. we would all be better off.. Clearly, in the GSL we have a nice distribution of all 3 races, every matchup is winnable.



yea theres plenty of zerg representation. Yes


How much protoss representation was in the final 8?? TWO.. exactly as much as zerg..

And guess what?? A Zerg got into the top 4.. No protoss did.

So, if you are going to complain about zerg being under-represented.. how is that possible when more zergs got further in GSL 4 than Protosses??
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