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Jermstuddog
United States2231 Posts
Wouldn't you know it, last night of all nights, I played a whole 3 Terrans in about 30 matches. I started at 2500pts in master (ranked ~40th in my division), and I FINALLY got demoted to Diamond at the end of the night... Though surprisingly I had only made it down to about 65th place... Demotion is possible, but takes a lot from what I can tell =p | ||
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random user
85 Posts
On January 22 2011 05:56 cive wrote: Like many above us said, Master league is nothing special. Just like there are plats that may be better than the bottom diamonds, I'm sure there is a gray area between the master league and the diamond league. I've never played a plat that plays like a good diamond or a diamond player that i thought should be a master league player. I think things would be more clear if you explain your situation. Maybe you are a good diamond getting tested vs. master league players or you are the master league player testing out the "to-be-promoted" diamond players. This is especially true for diamonds and plats at the moment if you take a step back and realize that any plat who gets promoted to diamond is going to be promoted in at about 2450 today (if they've used all of their bonus pool). This means that if you take a plat player who is just a couple games away from promotion, they are probably significantly better than a 2200-2300 diamond player who has used up all of their bonus pool (assuming they are in the same tier). | ||
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desRow
Canada2654 Posts
On January 20 2011 09:45 Excalibur_Z wrote: Well we've proven that this isn't the case because people have been promoted in 10 games or less. My first analysis thread actually directly referenced that Best Buy livechat with Dustin Browder where he cited 30 games before a promotion, but that was corrected once we found conflicting evidence. That doesn't mean he was lying, though. Remember that when that live chat took place, the beta was still going on and they were still several weeks out from release. Maybe the system changed and they instead chose to take promotions on a more granular level. Maybe the 30-game requirement only applied in the initial week or two of the ladder, when the league separations weren't very well established. There are many possibilities, but we know that's not how it works presently. whats going on with the top200 ? | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12255 Posts
It's using a different calculation this week that we still haven't figured out. At first it was incorrectly being sorted by spent bonus pool, and it's since been updated with a new list. We still don't know how it's being ranked, but supposedly it has something to do with bonus pool as related to points. | ||
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
Lost a game. Won a game and went into master league ^^ I did not expect it but when I think about it almost all the players I played had a lot highter rating and more games played. This is still true I have not played anyone with less then 2000 while I have 1600 | ||
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CitizenTrust
United States16 Posts
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semajwd
Canada36 Posts
so...im not sure why my MMR Is so low but we shall see how long it takes, i've played over 100games in a week. | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13422 Posts
On January 24 2011 03:35 semajwd wrote: #1 Ranking Diamond 2824 rating, still no promotion and I've constantly beat master/2500+ diamonds so...im not sure why my MMR Is so low but we shall see how long it takes, i've played over 100games in a week. How many games had you played in the previous week? Perhaps it still hasn't registered you as an "active" player and also you may be waiting for your check in to get promoted since the system checks at irregular intervals after all. | ||
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random user
85 Posts
~12-36ish hrs ago: + Show Spoiler + Name, Old Points, Old W-L, Old Position, New Rank, New W-L dorachan, 2,905, 348 - 312, 5, 003 master, 360 - 322 Kerensky, 2,898, 235 - 220, 7, 014 master, 240 - 222 Aeronys, 2,871, 322 - 271, 11, 002 master, 329 - 274 nemo, 2,871, 373 - 331, 11, 011 master, 379 - 337 LaGTTinSighT, 2,868, 369 - 338, 13, 019 master, 370 - 340 kiddin, 2,862, 296 - 272, 15, 017 master, 304 - 277 Sentient, 2,861, 258 - 230, 16, 014 master, 262 - 232 ParadoxiCal, 2,856, 425 - 397, 20, 015 master, 427 - 397 MIKEDRONES, 2,840, 527 - 481, 34, 024 master, 539 - 494 Pastulio, 2,839, 511 - 455, 36, 044 master, 529 - 476 TheRakoon, 2,838, 682 - 636, 37, 004 master, 685 - 637 Dominator, 2,835, 521 - 472, 39, 008 master, 527 - 477 ChavoDelOcho, 2,834, 396 - 351, 41, 036 master, 397 - 351 covertly, 2,834, 447 - 422, 41, 011 master, 458 - 431 Trakky, 2,828, 241 - 192, 52, 023 master, 250 - 200 iamsatan, 2,826, 532 - 494, 56, 007 master, 540 - 499 TheSilence, 2,821, 257 - 230, 63, 008 master, 267 - 237 BZapper, 2,819, 441 - 411, 68, 021 master, 448 - 416 LBO, 2,817, 305 - 262, 74, 016 master, 322 - 275 MistAh, 2,813, 224 - 197, 79, 009 master, 231 - 202 Rhyton, 2,811, 203 - 167, 84, 005 master, 214 - 176 Snipemare, 2,804, 535 - 490, 93, 009 master, 546 - 496 Romer, 2,795, 288 - 254, 113, 005 master, 293 - 257 TheMelkMan, 2,788, 563 - 531, 137, 018 master, 586 - 544 dEBASER, 2,783, 560 - 536, 147, 006 master, 568 - 541 Red, 2,780, 397 - 373, 157, 012 master, 412 - 379 LephanT, 2,779, 504 - 467, 160, 004 master, 526 - 480 BlueDream, 2,767, 828 - 786, 201, 028 master, 858 - 817 Quartang, 2,763, 214 - 192, 209, 018 master, 219 - 194 drumhead, 2,762, 334 - 315, 213, 017 master, 341 - 320 aldjzair, 2,756, 986 - 954, 231, 012 master, 1011 - 973 MrManners, 2,752, 611 - 584, 248, 004 master, 615 - 585 Phobophile, 2,746, 298 - 273, 265, 010 master, 300 - 274 wilsonusopen, 2,744, 317 - 284, 277, 023 master, 326 - 295 deanicks, 2,744, 365 - 337, 277, 027 master, 366 - 340 WATERDEEP, 2,717, 273 - 248, 407, 022 master, 280 - 250 Engine, 2,716, 232 - 210, 413, 009 master, 239 - 215 BrodiaQ, 2,708, 282 - 259, 463, 026 master, 291 - 271 Adrenaline, 2,702, 228 - 204, 500, 020 master, 232 - 207 ~0-12 hrs ago: + Show Spoiler + Name, Old Points, Old W-L, Old Position, New Rank, New W-L MrNovember, 2,916, 274 - 227, 4, 018 master, 276 - 235 CitizenTrust, 2,893, 354 - 319, 10, 008 master, 355 - 321 Chuck, 2,890, 436 - 387, 12, 013 master, 438 - 388 Jampackedeon, 2,882, 306 - 260, 16, 014 master, 308 - 265 MistrBrown, 2,863, 206 - 173, 35, 009 master, 208 - 173 IneptCoder, 2,764, 625 - 602, 310, 005 master, 629 - 606 I hope this might be useful to some people who either might have misconceptions or are looking at their peer group to see who was promoted. Note: just having that many points doesn't mean you are about to be promoted; besides the division offsets, there are quite a few people who have that many or more points but still haven't gotten promoted for at least several days now. Edit: I think it was 36 hours, but I actually don't keep track of it that often, so the timing might be a little off. Please don't take that figure to try and do any analysis off it (like promotions/day or whatever). | ||
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SDream
Brazil896 Posts
On January 24 2011 05:07 ZeromuS wrote: How many games had you played in the previous week? Perhaps it still hasn't registered you as an "active" player and also you may be waiting for your check in to get promoted since the system checks at irregular intervals after all. You don't have to be active for the system to promote you. The 2% top active players will dictate the boundaries for masters, then if you are inactive all you have to do is breaking the boundary for half these master players (the top 1% then). If what I understand about the system is correct... it might not be 100% correct ^^ | ||
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ChrysaliS_
United States261 Posts
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semajwd
Canada36 Posts
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JFO
184 Posts
I really do not understand master league, theres people with good winrates and 3k+ points on diamond that are not getting promoted, just take a look at sc2ranks and order by winrate or points, and it wont make any sense for a LOT of promotions we've seen. User was warned for this post | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
so only so many players can be master league? | ||
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ChrysaliS_
United States261 Posts
On January 24 2011 16:06 JFO wrote: Seriously, why cant someone just call blizzard on the phone and ask? They should be able to say whats up, anyone got any connections? Im sure teamliquid has at leaste one dude on blizzard that can tell us the truth about this... I really do not understand master league, theres people with good winrates and 3k+ points on diamond that are not getting promoted, just take a look at sc2ranks and order by winrate or points, and it wont make any sense for a LOT of promotions we've seen. While I'm sure we all would love if blizzard just told us how the ladder system works, the whole idea behind it is that isn't transparent. The one thing that we do know that is that it DOES work. Just the fact that win percentages in the higher leagues tend to hover around 51-52% speaks for itself imo | ||
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Azzur
Australia6267 Posts
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whojohnisgalt
93 Posts
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Oleksandr
United States227 Posts
On January 24 2011 03:35 semajwd wrote: #1 Ranking Diamond 2824 rating, still no promotion and I've constantly beat master/2500+ diamonds so...im not sure why my MMR Is so low but we shall see how long it takes, i've played over 100games in a week. Same here, dude, feel your pain. I've been up to 2900. | ||
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confusedcrib
United States1307 Posts
On January 24 2011 16:11 travis wrote: master league is a fixed %, right? so only so many players can be master league? Interested in this | ||
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Backpack
United States1776 Posts
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