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[GSL] Who is worthy of competing in Code A - Page 21

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alepov
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands1132 Posts
January 06 2011 13:28 GMT
#401
dimaga whitera bratok huk socke
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
aristarchus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States652 Posts
January 06 2011 13:28 GMT
#402
On January 06 2011 22:24 resilve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2011 22:16 aristarchus wrote:
Getting an invite shouldn't be about getting popular. It should be about actually performing well.


Whilst I agree with you, I dont think there have been enough "global" foreign tournaments (without korea but including NA, EU, SEA, SA). The only one was Blizzcon really.

MLG series was crazily NA based for obvious reasons, ESL/EPS was either EU based or NA based. Dreamhack was EU based and 'influenced' by koreans knocking out people.

Nothing really has pitted the best EU players against the best NA ones to determine 'leading' foreigners in a serious, GOM-like environment - atm we are only saying 'naniwa v kiwikaki' or 'qxc v bratok' and 'dimaga v machine' in theoretical arguments and based on unrelated events.

Tl;DR - It is hard to say who actually is performing well if you take the foreign scene as 1 entity. It would probably be fairer to invite 2 EU and 2 NA ones (assuming, perhaps crudely and wrongly, that SEA and SA have worse pro gamers)


Yeah, so it wouldn't be perfect. MLG is mostly NA people and Dreamhack was mostly EU? Fine, just invite one person based on the results of each. I'd be fine if they first decided that there will be two from NA and two from EU or something like that. I'm just saying that I want a clear objective process. The results are not a perfect judge of who is actually better, but they're much better/fairer than someone watching two people play in two different games and guessing who would win if they played against each other (especially when those guesses will always be influenced by being a fan of someone).
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 13:32:38
January 06 2011 13:30 GMT
#403
Might also want to consider who wants to be a full time player in Korea - Liquid`Tyler is likely going to turn down such an opportunity, having moved on past that phase in his life. :<

From EU, consider players such as:
Dimaga, Sjow, White-Ra, Socke
From NA, consider players such as:
HuK, TT1, Painuser, Machine, Kiwikaki, drewbie
(Tried to grab some of each race)
These players have repeatedly given a good showing!

Look around at who's winning tournaments! MLG, ESL, TL opens, etc! Ladder really isn't everything :\
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
January 06 2011 13:31 GMT
#404
Dimaga, Brat_OK, SjoW and DeMusliM are my picks.
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
January 06 2011 13:34 GMT
#405
If the player hasn't at least won a major tourney (which was the old qualifying reason), I don't think they should really be suggested.
the farm ends here
resilve
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom678 Posts
January 06 2011 13:34 GMT
#406
ITT: John trolls us all into fighting about who is 'best' in an unprovable argument :D
Socke Fighting!!!!
Jimmy Raynor
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
902 Posts
January 06 2011 13:34 GMT
#407
Dimaga, Brat_OK, White-Ra, Morrow
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
January 06 2011 13:38 GMT
#408
--- Nuked ---
Lalgee
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom65 Posts
January 06 2011 13:38 GMT
#409
huk, sjow, socke, haypro
"That's Lal-Genius"
Rushingwolf
Profile Joined October 2010
78 Posts
January 06 2011 13:44 GMT
#410
i think the mtw, atn, mouz, empire and roksis are a lot better than their counterparts in teamliquid,eg (except minigun he's rly good), root or korea. Don't invite anyone who is in korea and has already tried to compete in the gsl like huk or haypro
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
January 06 2011 13:45 GMT
#411
Sjow because it would be awesome to see a 45APM terran who doesn't care about scouting and can't multitask (he just send the drops and wishes for the best).

Kiwikaki because we need more proxy-pylons in GSL

InControl because it's going to be fun to see him going through a diet to enter the booth

Naniwa to fight for Idra's spot as worst mannered foreigner.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 13:56:04
January 06 2011 13:45 GMT
#412
I hope people realize that SelecT is not a foreign player.

HuK
HayprO
KiWiKaKi
Sen

EDIT: removed sjow (not good enough) and bratok (visa issues) and replaced with people with who have a chance at competing.
I am not good with quotes
Faze.
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada285 Posts
January 06 2011 13:45 GMT
#413
qxc
dimaga
huk
incontrol
D:
kethers
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States719 Posts
January 06 2011 13:46 GMT
#414
HuK, QXC, KiWiKaKi, DiMaGa
Caryc
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany330 Posts
January 06 2011 13:48 GMT
#415
bratok,he is so damn good..
RaiKhan
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands69 Posts
January 06 2011 13:48 GMT
#416
My votes go to:

Huk
DeMuslim
qxc
Dimaga
pksens
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom156 Posts
January 06 2011 13:49 GMT
#417
Aren't there prelims for getting into Code A that huk, given his skills, should fly through?
If so, would it not be best to award the seeding to a player not residing in Korea who wouldn't have time / resources to be based on Korean soil and to give them a shot in a couple of tournaments?
MacroNcheesE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States508 Posts
January 06 2011 13:51 GMT
#418
iNcontroL, PainUser, TTOne, Socke, Artosis!, Machine, Fenix, Ret, HuK, and Kas. That would be a pretty solid pool to choose from. Obviously, the fanboy inside of me wants Nony to go, but with marital duties and all... Out of that list my top four would be: iNc, T-Pain, Socke, and Fenix.
Doubt is the venom that has paralyzed humanity.
CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
January 06 2011 13:53 GMT
#419
Everyone is saying iNcontroL even though he hasnt really proven to be a top player among rest of the pack in the NA scene, fanboyism i guess :o
(>*-*)><( *-* )><(*-*<) DoDTimber on Bnet
red_b
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1267 Posts
January 06 2011 13:57 GMT
#420
On January 06 2011 22:53 CryMeAReaper wrote:
Everyone is saying iNcontroL even though he hasnt really proven to be a top player among rest of the pack in the NA scene, fanboyism i guess :o


I think people are basing it based on how he did in the season 3 qualifier.
Those small maps were like a boxing match in a phone booth.
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