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kubetz
Slovakia4 Posts
On December 21 2010 00:03 emythrel wrote: 10PM EST is 5 hours behind GMT so it will be 3am GMT. So if ur in CET (GMT+1) then it will be 4am Thanks! It looks that for me 10PM + 6 hours = 2AM  /facepalm . | ||
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Impervious
Canada4216 Posts
When was the last time you saw a legit Gold level player put up a decent fight against a mid Diamond player? Because that's probably a good representation of the skill gap between 2500 and IdrA..... It might actually be more severe than that..... | ||
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Mr. Nefarious
United States515 Posts
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NaYeBo
Canada282 Posts
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
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Ridiculisk
Australia191 Posts
Should be really interesting to watch though. Best of luck sir, have fun! PS: So jealous that you get to play with IdrA...He's totally my fav player. | ||
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RezChi
Canada2368 Posts
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HyperDeath
United States64 Posts
On December 21 2010 06:56 Impervious wrote: When was the last time you saw a legit Gold level player put up a decent fight against a mid Diamond player? Because that's probably a good representation of the skill gap between 2500 and IdrA..... It might actually be more severe than that..... I really dont think thats a good comparison. A gold level player is probably stuck in the gold division because of his/her lack of fundamentals. They wont do a good job scouting, they'll not keep up with marco, or their cheesey tactics stop working at higher levels. A 2500+ diamond player has enough games under their belt (probably) to have a decent game sense, have a decent build order, and a good response to certain compositions. I dont understand why you feel so uneasy at the fact that a progamer may not just completely face-roll another person who plays the game a lot. If look at their win/loss records, they actually have losses on the ladder. | ||
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purecarnagge
719 Posts
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Zerokaiser
Canada885 Posts
On December 21 2010 23:09 HyperDeath wrote: I really dont think thats a good comparison. A gold level player is probably stuck in the gold division because of his/her lack of fundamentals. They wont do a good job scouting, they'll not keep up with marco, or their cheesey tactics stop working at higher levels. A 2500+ diamond player has enough games under their belt (probably) to have a decent game sense, have a decent build order, and a good response to certain compositions. I dont understand why you feel so uneasy at the fact that a progamer may not just completely face-roll another person who plays the game a lot. If look at their win/loss records, they actually have losses on the ladder. A more accurate comparison is an olympian world-record luger versus a top amateur. Both have solid rides, but the olympian has refined his skill to go just faster and cut more corners enough to crush the amateur's time, every time. If it were a game of complete information, IdrA would be top 5 in the world. Unfortunately, we live in a world where the best player in the world will still always lose a quarter of his games against random ladder opponents (imagine a fluctuation between luge runs of 25%). It's going to be that way for a while yet, so enjoy the days of swashbuckling Starcraft. | ||
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HanSoo
United States17 Posts
$50 is joke and way undervalues what his time is worth. High tier poker coaches charge in excess of $500/hr and even the mid-tier quality coaches charge $75-125. Coaching from elite level players is a niche market. It targets a very specific type of player in a very specific point in their gaming careers. It is NOT for the general population to get better. In order to get anything out of a coaching session with IdrA you would need to already be very good. You would need to have no major faults in your play but instead you might be having trouble with a specific match up or need advice on how to better execute a build. This is something that would be an excellent use of time with an elite player. You're basically paying to pick their brain on something that only they would know, or something that could expedite your learning process significantly (high level tips and tricks). Any run of the mill Computer Programmer can bill $50/hr. Heck, many high school kids charge that once they build up a decent skill set. | ||
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kineSiS-
Korea (South)1068 Posts
On December 19 2010 07:51 Enervate wrote: Well, Idra charges $150/hour for lessons, so that should give you an idea. The OP did say Idra was kinder to him, so my guess is somewhere between $50 and $200. Wrong :D Turns out IdrA was kinder than I expected, and allowed me to stream the event. He was kind in that he was allowed to stream the event. Work on you interpretation skill sgood sir. | ||
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NaYeBo
Canada282 Posts
I'm looking for someone to cast the game in better quality. My stream would be the question and answers during games with IdrA and there would be another stream to watch both players in better quality, let me know if anyone can stream. | ||
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Aruno
New Zealand748 Posts
Oh and thx for putting this livestream on for everyone. I am going to make time to see this live! GL | ||
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roymarthyup
1442 Posts
you should seriously make one of the conditions of this showmatch that if idra loses he doesnt get the money that would make it a bit more entertaining | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
On December 22 2010 04:06 HanSoo wrote: I don't think $150 is overpriced. $50 is joke and way undervalues what his time is worth. High tier poker coaches charge in excess of $500/hr and even the mid-tier quality coaches charge $75-125. Coaching from elite level players is a niche market. It targets a very specific type of player in a very specific point in their gaming careers. It is NOT for the general population to get better. In order to get anything out of a coaching session with IdrA you would need to already be very good. You would need to have no major faults in your play but instead you might be having trouble with a specific match up or need advice on how to better execute a build. This is something that would be an excellent use of time with an elite player. You're basically paying to pick their brain on something that only they would know, or something that could expedite your learning process significantly (high level tips and tricks). Any run of the mill Computer Programmer can bill $50/hr. Heck, many high school kids charge that once they build up a decent skill set. you can earn 500/hour playing poker on a high level you can win 100/day in tournaments playing with the best players in the world, so the prices are relative | ||
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shifty
United States280 Posts
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TheDominator
New Zealand336 Posts
And have u though about wat to do if u win 1 game? | ||
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DiracMonopole
United States1555 Posts
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CursedFeanor
Canada539 Posts
On December 22 2010 04:36 NaYeBo wrote: Hey guys, I'm looking for someone to cast the game in better quality. My stream would be the question and answers during games with IdrA and there would be another stream to watch both players in better quality, let me know if anyone can stream. PLEASE get Incontrol to cast these games!!!  he's the best when comes time to bash on people getting crushed... in any case good luck, I'll be there watching for sure. | ||
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