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57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
December 20 2010 14:55 GMT
#141
Oh man, looks like im missing this week's Friends-day Wednesday. But this is so much more better, watching a "joe" (not really) play against IdrA.

PS. I would say a Joe is around 1500 Diamond, not 2700
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
December 20 2010 15:03 GMT
#142
On December 20 2010 23:50 kubetz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 01:56 BuuGhost wrote:
December 22nd, 10 PM EST

Does this mean 2AM Gmt+1? Can anyone confirm.


Yes, it is 2AM GMT+1 .


10PM EST is 5 hours behind GMT so it will be 3am GMT. So if ur in CET (GMT+1) then it will be 4am
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
HyperDeath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States64 Posts
December 20 2010 15:16 GMT
#143
i would consider a Joe a low level Diamond player. I wouldn't go so far as to calling a silver/bronze level player a Joe (as was mentioned earlier in the thread). The fun of pros v joes is that you could at least try to root for a Joe and at least get some entertainment and put up some fight. A silver/bronze player would be immediately crushed. A 2500+ Diamond would probably put up a good fight against idra.

IMO early pressure. proxy 2rax all-in with bunkers
Hide Tech, Distribute Cheese
fofa2000
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-20 16:17:12
December 20 2010 15:25 GMT
#144
IdrA isn't just anybody.
+ Show Spoiler +
Good luck Joe, did you see IdrA demolish Qxc 3-0 yesterday?
Maybe you can do better than him!
-smells likes tasty soup, what's the menu?-fresh jaedong style marine stew served with a glass of dragoon slush!-The food's any good?Quite unusual names, never heard-all my food's good, the kitchen's this way-btw whatu terarn doing alone in a zerg colony?
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4216 Posts
December 20 2010 15:28 GMT
#145
On December 21 2010 00:16 HyperDeath wrote:
i would consider a Joe a low level Diamond player. I wouldn't go so far as to calling a silver/bronze level player a Joe (as was mentioned earlier in the thread). The fun of pros v joes is that you could at least try to root for a Joe and at least get some entertainment and put up some fight. A silver/bronze player would be immediately crushed. A 2500+ Diamond would probably put up a good fight against idra.

IMO early pressure. proxy 2rax all-in with bunkers

I think you underestimate the skill difference.....
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
Skrelt
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands306 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-20 15:37:17
December 20 2010 15:35 GMT
#146
On December 21 2010 00:25 fofa2000 wrote:
Good luck Joe, did you see IdrA demolish Qxc 3-0 yesterday?
Maybe you can do better than him!


i hope this wasnt a spoiler of the EG masters..

..+ Show Spoiler +
yesh he spoils it.
The Wolfpack - Metalband from the Netherlands
PrimalFear
Profile Joined November 2010
Greece17 Posts
December 20 2010 15:50 GMT
#147
So you payed around 150$ to play one hour of sc2 ?! Dude i can give you 10 better ways to spend that money and really get your money's worth... Wth is wrong with you?
coddan
Profile Joined May 2010
Estonia890 Posts
December 20 2010 15:53 GMT
#148
On December 21 2010 00:50 PrimalFear wrote:
So you payed around 150$ to play one hour of sc2 ?! Dude i can give you 10 better ways to spend that money and really get your money's worth... Wth is wrong with you?


STOP LIKING WHAT I DONT LIKE
-PrimalFear
Rakanishu2
Profile Joined May 2009
United States475 Posts
December 20 2010 16:06 GMT
#149
On December 21 2010 00:16 HyperDeath wrote:
i would consider a Joe a low level Diamond player. I wouldn't go so far as to calling a silver/bronze level player a Joe (as was mentioned earlier in the thread). The fun of pros v joes is that you could at least try to root for a Joe and at least get some entertainment and put up some fight. A silver/bronze player would be immediately crushed. A 2500+ Diamond would probably put up a good fight against idra.

IMO early pressure. proxy 2rax all-in with bunkers


You have a very wide definition of "good fight".

And no, I wouldn't try to cheese IdrA in a match against an average Joe, IdrA is going to play really safe and deny the cheese and smoke you in a macro game.

He can't afford to play extremely safe builds against other pros, they'll keep up with his macro. But against a Joe? Just get the game to 15 minutes and its basically over.
10 G's in the packet and I'm ready to roll, on fire like a rocket and I'm ready to blow
iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
December 20 2010 16:18 GMT
#150
On December 21 2010 00:28 Impervious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2010 00:16 HyperDeath wrote:
i would consider a Joe a low level Diamond player. I wouldn't go so far as to calling a silver/bronze level player a Joe (as was mentioned earlier in the thread). The fun of pros v joes is that you could at least try to root for a Joe and at least get some entertainment and put up some fight. A silver/bronze player would be immediately crushed. A 2500+ Diamond would probably put up a good fight against idra.

IMO early pressure. proxy 2rax all-in with bunkers

I think you underestimate the skill difference.....


In his defense, there are a few 2500+ players who could put up a good fight against Idra. Players like these:
http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/388538/LiquidHuK
http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/390507/ROOTKiWiKaKi
http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1317068/LiquidNazgul

And there's even one platinum player who would do well:
http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/2695539/LiquidTyler

Realistically though, an average 2500 player wouldn't come close against average 3000 players, let alone Idra.
During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. -Bisu[Shield]
HyperDeath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States64 Posts
December 20 2010 17:41 GMT
#151
On December 21 2010 00:28 Impervious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2010 00:16 HyperDeath wrote:
i would consider a Joe a low level Diamond player. I wouldn't go so far as to calling a silver/bronze level player a Joe (as was mentioned earlier in the thread). The fun of pros v joes is that you could at least try to root for a Joe and at least get some entertainment and put up some fight. A silver/bronze player would be immediately crushed. A 2500+ Diamond would probably put up a good fight against idra.

IMO early pressure. proxy 2rax all-in with bunkers

I think you underestimate the skill difference.....


putting up a good fight =/= winning
Hide Tech, Distribute Cheese
JackOscar
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden50 Posts
December 20 2010 18:04 GMT
#152
On December 19 2010 07:54 NaYeBo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2010 07:48 sikyon wrote:
Can you record a VoD, I have a test that day at that time :S



There will be a recorded VoD.



Sweet, where will it be uploaded? Do you have a youtube channel or something?
"Guinnea pigs have more blood than rats and hamster" - Artosis
Krigwin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1130 Posts
December 20 2010 18:13 GMT
#153
On December 19 2010 07:46 omgCRAZY wrote:
I read this and I thought it was some sort of event where people got a chance to play against IdrA.

That's exactly what I thought too, and it's a brilliant idea. It's so brilliant in fact I don't even know why no one has done this before.

Have some kind of recurring (maybe weekly?) event where random scrubs sign up to go head-to-head with pros and maybe people can donate (or the scrubs pay) money that can serve as payment to the pros. It doesn't have to be like, 2700 diamond people or anything, maybe just any random joe, as long as the pros don't go completely overboard and stomp them in 10 minutes or something.

Judging by the Rumble in the Bronze event, this could be very entertaining and lucrative and I know plenty of people (myself included) who would be willing to withstand humiliation and defeat to play with some of the greats that they idolize. Plus, it would also serve as good PR for the participating pros and give them some way to blow off steam in between practice sessions.

Like, something like this: Random bronze league dudes pay $20 to sign up and play a Bo3 against Idra, maybe we can fit like 3 Bo3s into 2 hours and at the end Idra comes out $60 richer and all the people on the stream get to watch Idra play around with bronze league people. Or maybe we can do more like, 1v2 or 1v3 type games where it's a pro versus a bunch of non-diamond folks. Compared to some of the tournaments floating around, it can be a profitable venture and it would be entertaining as hell to watch.
NaYeBo
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada282 Posts
December 20 2010 18:32 GMT
#154
Please everyone stop telling me to cheese... might as well make the gaems worthwhile... maybe one all in if we have time for some fun games...

And it wont be a vod vod.. just recorded in my archive of livestream

im not getting someone with highquality stream to cast because i dont wanna ask idra for too much... asking him to add a third party on skype would be more than he'd want im sure

and i will recast the replays on a later date

and the quality of my stream isnt high.. its the same as ive been streaming before, people havnt had many problems with it before , so shoudl be fine now
genericname92
Profile Joined October 2009
United States148 Posts
December 20 2010 18:37 GMT
#155
On December 21 2010 03:13 Krigwin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2010 07:46 omgCRAZY wrote:
I read this and I thought it was some sort of event where people got a chance to play against IdrA.

That's exactly what I thought too, and it's a brilliant idea. It's so brilliant in fact I don't even know why no one has done this before.

Have some kind of recurring (maybe weekly?) event where random scrubs sign up to go head-to-head with pros and maybe people can donate (or the scrubs pay) money that can serve as payment to the pros. It doesn't have to be like, 2700 diamond people or anything, maybe just any random joe, as long as the pros don't go completely overboard and stomp them in 10 minutes or something.

Judging by the Rumble in the Bronze event, this could be very entertaining and lucrative and I know plenty of people (myself included) who would be willing to withstand humiliation and defeat to play with some of the greats that they idolize. Plus, it would also serve as good PR for the participating pros and give them some way to blow off steam in between practice sessions.

Like, something like this: Random bronze league dudes pay $20 to sign up and play a Bo3 against Idra, maybe we can fit like 3 Bo3s into 2 hours and at the end Idra comes out $60 richer and all the people on the stream get to watch Idra play around with bronze league people. Or maybe we can do more like, 1v2 or 1v3 type games where it's a pro versus a bunch of non-diamond folks. Compared to some of the tournaments floating around, it can be a profitable venture and it would be entertaining as hell to watch.


They have, it's called TL attack but right now hasn't been set up yet. You can still youtube for the old ones though
jlim
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Spain943 Posts
December 20 2010 18:41 GMT
#156
On December 21 2010 03:32 NaYeBo wrote:
Please everyone stop telling me to cheese... might as well make the gaems worthwhile... maybe one all in if we have time for some fun games...


Imagine if he cheesed you just to end the match asap so he can go make more money with other matches/training. :O
NaYeBo
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada282 Posts
December 20 2010 18:47 GMT
#157
On December 21 2010 03:41 jlim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2010 03:32 NaYeBo wrote:
Please everyone stop telling me to cheese... might as well make the gaems worthwhile... maybe one all in if we have time for some fun games...


Imagine if he cheesed you just to end the match asap so he can go make more money with other matches/training. :O



i h ave him for an hour
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-20 18:52:08
December 20 2010 18:51 GMT
#158
I'll be tuning in. hopefully not to see you fail 2 SCV all-in :D GL!
willeesmalls
Profile Joined March 2010
United States477 Posts
December 20 2010 18:54 GMT
#159
Are you really spending the time and energy to compare who can be more precise in a sequence of clicks and button presses? We already know the answer to that.

Your best bet for an entertaining match is to do something unexpected. idrA's on the fly reaction is not as good as his mastery over the mechanics.

It'll certainly be more fun watching you sit in your base while idra expands 5 times.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
December 20 2010 20:25 GMT
#160


Are you getting 3 games guaranteed, regardless of wins and losses?

Because if you get ROFLstomped the first two games you should definitely cheese on the third one for funsies.

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