EPTI've checked the last 20 matches, not a single match have we met someone under gold and in the majority (13) we've met Platinum teams. So does me being Diamond force our team to face better players even if our team score is useless? Do I really have to get a new account just so I could let her win a few times? : /
Does the 2v2 ranking take your 1v1 into account?
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
I've checked the last 20 matches, not a single match have we met someone under gold and in the majority (13) we've met Platinum teams. So does me being Diamond force our team to face better players even if our team score is useless? Do I really have to get a new account just so I could let her win a few times? : / | ||
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Kolvacs
Canada1203 Posts
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HeyitsClay
Canada336 Posts
when i try and play some fun games with my noob friends that are like silver or worse, EVERY game we are put vs mid level Diamond players every single game no matter how many losses we suffer even tho we are in a Silver Div somewhat retarded, I think this was a recent change just before the end of beta or something | ||
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DamnCats
United States1472 Posts
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Lucius2
Germany548 Posts
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
On November 28 2010 10:44 Lucius2 wrote: i also believe there is something fishy going on with mixing all the 1v1 and team ratings. some things just cant be explained otherwise I feel the same it makes no sense to put a team that's 2 - 28 Bronze vs a 60 - 40 platinum team. | ||
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Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
Clearly the FFA MMR is based largely on your 1v1 MMR to match you, because if you search for FFA's and your 1v1 is low, you get easy opponents, but if your 1v1 is higher, you match vs high 1v1ers in FFA too. Im assuming 2v2/etc is the same. | ||
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Genome852
United States979 Posts
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.Aar
2177 Posts
I'm pretty positive your 1v1 stats come into play in team games, because it sure feels like it. | ||
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Krasso
Denmark74 Posts
On November 28 2010 10:34 Kolvacs wrote: The guys at Blizzcon who were taking questions about the development or something, said that they do not. This. Search "Secrets of the master blizzcon 2010" on youtube for prove.  End of discussion | ||
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MichaelJLowell
United States610 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12241 Posts
On November 28 2010 10:34 Kolvacs wrote: The guys at Blizzcon who were taking questions about the development or something, said that they do not. Ssssssort of. When you make a new team, it uses your performance in other teams and brackets as a starting point. After that point, though, then your teams are completely separate. Now, as far as whether that means it starts at the highest ranked player's skill level, or the average of all the members' highest team, or the average of the brackets of each player, that's not known. | ||
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Tonyoh
France218 Posts
I play with my cousin who sucks hard =) and play terran. very passive style (like all the platinum players) and reactivity not enough fast. A nice one, as terran, is taking gold expo with PF + turrets. | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
I play 2s,3s,4s pretty heavily with friends and im mid to high diamond for those rankings so it definitely feels like its affecting it... | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
I play 2s,3s,4s pretty heavily with friends and im mid to high diamond for those rankings so it definitely feels like its affecting it... | ||
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NoobStyles
Australia257 Posts
On November 28 2010 11:25 Excalibur_Z wrote: Ssssssort of. When you make a new team, it uses your performance in other teams and brackets as a starting point. After that point, though, then your teams are completely separate. Now, as far as whether that means it starts at the highest ranked player's skill level, or the average of all the members' highest team, or the average of the brackets of each player, that's not known. Interesting, that basically explains this thread without having to call blizz straight out liars. I have noticed that if i play in a "new team" in any league 2/3/4s even the first placement match is VS solid opponents. its happened for 3-4 placement match series. It also keeps placing us Vs good opponents even though we loose all/most of the placements. generally because im trying to win with mass landed viking or something similar. Ether most of the people in this thread and myself consistently hit diamond lvl smurfs that have bought a new acc and are just laddering back up, or blizz has changed the way AMM works during placements, since beta. | ||
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
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EonShiKeno
United States122 Posts
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jaeds
United States106 Posts
i think good questions would be: Did you win any placement matches? What league were the people you beat in? What order did you play them and win or lose? If you lost, how far down did it place you at which game in your placement series? If you won, how far up did it place you at which game in your placement series? MMR is very likely to change rapidly in the first 5 games, and then slow down its growth/decline considerably. | ||
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
When I play with not so skilled friends we end up facing bad opponents and with one 4:4team we went 3-2 and ended up in bronze. So 1:1 rating seems to play a part in atleast the placements. But I have not played enough games to see a trend in the long run. However I heard about people getting stuck in low bronze and only playing really good players in 1:1 too so it might be that bug if it's still around. Apparently it had something to do with copper being removed. The op should learn his ally some buildorder or atleast a cheese so you can win atleast a few games. EDIT: I'm learning a newbie friend to 7zd on hunters in bw. | ||
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ElWarbringer
United States15 Posts
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Phaded
Australia579 Posts
skip to 6:15 It's initial bootstrapping for the early matches, ie. if you and your partner are both diamond in another team/bracket, you would face harder teams to begin with than if you and your partner were both bronze. You will need to lose a lot more games to get to a lower bronze/silver level | ||
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Penecks
United States600 Posts
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fdsdfg
United States1251 Posts
On November 28 2010 16:02 Phaded wrote: It doesaffect your initial games, as they explained in the Secrets of the Masters discussion at Blizzcon 2010 [video] skip to 6:15 It's initial bootstrapping for the early matches, ie. if you and your partner are both diamond in another team/bracket, you would face harder teams to begin with than if you and your partner were both bronze. You will need to lose a lot more games to get to a lower bronze/silver level This is good info. I am pretty well in Diamond, but my girlfriend sucks (lol), so when we do arranged 2v2 we face medicre people and lose. Glad that it doesn't read/modify my MMR based off those matches. | ||
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cubert
Russian Federation94 Posts
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Qwix
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Craton
United States17281 Posts
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Ssoulle
United Kingdom149 Posts
Me and my friends have a 4v4 team, and we almost exclusively now get Diamond players in our matchups even though we are a Bronze team respectively. Our highest 1v1 player is a low ranked Plat player. | ||
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volraththelord
United States2 Posts
Good job blizzard at keeping that secret they totally bring your other leagues into play. | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
cant remember where they said it but it was in an interview ages ago (around about launch) | ||
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Marksman
Malaysia523 Posts
On November 28 2010 16:02 Phaded wrote: It doesaffect your initial games, as they explained in the Secrets of the Masters discussion at Blizzcon 2010 [video] skip to 6:15 It's initial bootstrapping for the early matches, ie. if you and your partner are both diamond in another team/bracket, you would face harder teams to begin with than if you and your partner were both bronze. You will need to lose a lot more games to get to a lower bronze/silver level Ok so its been cleared up. Now I have a question to continue the discussion. Does MMR from one Bnet server affect another? Cause it was like this as well On November 28 2010 12:35 Eatme wrote: When I played placements with Jinro (offracing) we faced really good players even after losing. We went 3-2 in placements only playing good opponents and got placed in plat. Exact score and league as well if i recall it right.Me and my partner were Diamonds in 2v2 for SEA (1v1 3v3 as well). All our five placement matches are against 1.6k + Diamonds for 2v2s during our placement for US. It definitely felt odd for us since we weren't expecting it lol. | ||
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