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dambros
Brazil432 Posts
On November 23 2010 03:26 AyJay wrote: numbers won't win you a tournament Playing on ladder isn't same as playing at the Lan event I know that, but I dont think a guy who does so well would get disqualified by some random Korean. He is used to play on Lan tournaments, so idk. | ||
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Barook
Germany143 Posts
On November 23 2010 03:23 MaiYoH wrote: It's interesting to see mTwDIMAGA make this list with only 84 wins. While I would agree with Blizzard that he deserves to be in the top 200 in NA, his position with so few games played makes me even more curious as to how Blizzard actually determines who makes their top 200. He's in a S-Rank league (means +0 modifier) and has enough points to qualify. Look it up in Excalibur's thread, it's an interesting read. | ||
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milkncheese
United States6 Posts
8 Protoss 7 Zerg 5 Terran Quantity does not equal quality | ||
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teko
Canada1197 Posts
He'll be #1 someday!! | ||
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Skullflower
United States3779 Posts
On November 23 2010 03:13 traca wrote: who is katari? did he participate in any tourneys so far? He's been around since beta and I heard he likes to 4Gate. And it's nice to see Mini in the top 10. | ||
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Metalwing
Turkey1038 Posts
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
On November 23 2010 03:54 Skullflower wrote: He's been around since beta and I heard he likes to 4Gate. And it's nice to see Mini in the top 10. watched him play vs catz on catz stream. Seems very cheesy / allin - ish with a few strong timing pushes | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On November 23 2010 03:54 Skullflower wrote: He's been around since beta and I heard he likes to 4Gate. And it's nice to see Mini in the top 10. I have played him once (I beat him too  ). I dunno how he plays vs other people but vs me he just stayed 2 base and never went for a third base until it was wayyyy too late.I didn't move up or down this week still 137 rofl. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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chadissilent
Canada1187 Posts
On November 23 2010 03:31 Barook wrote: He's in a S-Rank league (means +0 modifier) and has enough points to qualify. Look it up in Excalibur's thread, it's an interesting read. The division modifier is completely BS IMO, and I'm not sure it's an actual true representation of skill. I have a friend in the top 100 on SC2 ranks that didn't crack the top 200 here. He plays players like Sheth, EnvY, etc. and is usually even with them or they are slightly favored against him. He beat EnvY (even match), who is fairly high on that list, has more points than envy, but is in a "worse" division therefore does not crack the list? That's a load of bullshit if you ask me. This isn't an isolated case, either. He plays a lot of the guys on the top200, as even matches, and beats many of them. | ||
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SheaR619
United States2399 Posts
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Achilles
Canada385 Posts
On another note: terran and zerg seem to be at a decent equilibrium now. Wondering what blizz gonna do next. | ||
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dras
Kazakhstan376 Posts
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eXigent.
Canada2419 Posts
On November 23 2010 04:03 blade55555 wrote: I have played him once (I beat him too ). I dunno how he plays vs other people but vs me he just stayed 2 base and never went for a third base until it was wayyyy too late.I didn't move up or down this week still 137 rofl. I watched TTOne 2-0 him yesterday on his stream, but katari didnt play cheesey/4gate in either of those games. In the 2nd game he went fast expo vs TTOnes 3gate robo build. | ||
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1664 Posts
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ZpuX
Sweden1230 Posts
On November 23 2010 04:07 hifriend wrote: Wow zpux going to #23 in 1 months with 65% winrate. Kid has skills. Too bad real life obligations will interfere the coming 2 weeks, otherwise I would have liked to get into top10! | ||
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Barook
Germany143 Posts
On November 23 2010 04:16 chadissilent wrote: The division modifier is completely BS IMO, and I'm not sure it's an actual true representation of skill. I have a friend in the top 100 on SC2 ranks that didn't crack the top 200 here. He plays players like Sheth, EnvY, etc. and is usually even with them or they are slightly favored against him. He beat EnvY (even match), who is fairly high on that list, has more points than envy, but is in a "worse" division therefore does not crack the list? That's a load of bullshit if you ask me. This isn't an isolated case, either. He plays a lot of the guys on the top200, as even matches, and beats many of them. I'm not a friend of the system either - it's yet another mechanic of Blizzard to dilute people into thinking they're better than they actually are. And it doesn't matter if your friend is in worse division - without the initial bonus points, his current rating would be way lower anyway. E.g., Player A entered his league with 1000 actual points, but got 1315 due to being ranked in an E-League. Many games later, his rating is displayed 2715 rating, but due to being in an E-rank division, his actual rating is 2400. Now let's assume Player A entered a S-class division at 1k points instead. He would start at 1k points, but he would end up at actual 2400 points as well with the same games played. However, Player A thinks he's way more awesome while being in an E-Rank division because he has more points while his actual skill is way lower. Yet another reason why claims of people being "xxxx points Diamond" are very, very bad as there can be huge difference between displayed rating and actual rating. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
On November 23 2010 04:29 ZpuX wrote: Too bad real life obligations will interfere the coming 2 weeks, otherwise I would have liked to get into top10! You'll get there eventually I'm sure. You moved to the US I take it since you participated in the MLG dallas? | ||
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ZpuX
Sweden1230 Posts
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Treehead
999 Posts
On November 23 2010 03:44 milkncheese wrote: Everyone is saying 'poor toss, poor toss', but toss are #1 and #2. And if you look at the top 20, its 8 Protoss 7 Zerg 5 Terran Quantity does not equal quality If I showed you 7 sets of ladder distributions and tournament results saying that toss are underrepresented at the top levels of performance, you'd say you weren't convinced because of toss placing in tournaments, or doing well on other continents, or for some other reason. Yet you accept the idea that they are adequately represented based on a similarly small set of data. This seems inconsistent. Do you have more data to support this argument, or did you decide this was all you needed. By a similar token, I could claim global warming is a farce because it's cold out today. Also, I'm curious as to how the phrase "Quantity does not equal quality" supports your argument? Are you familiar with the concept that small sample sizes reflect the true state of things less often than large sample sizes, and thus the top 5, top 20, top 50 will always be less meaningful than the top 100, top 500 and top 1000? | ||
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