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desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
November 17 2010 04:31 GMT
#21
On November 17 2010 13:27 Darpa wrote:
Go attero! hes the 1 random LoL... Also Huk Winning Raleigh i think was a recent gold medal for toss.


it was early september how is that recent ?
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Boundless
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada588 Posts
November 17 2010 04:34 GMT
#22
Holy crap. That Toss at #1 has played an ASSLOAD of ranked games. That's almost a 2-1 win ratio even with that mass.
"Sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace." - Romans 6:14
iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
November 17 2010 04:37 GMT
#23
Actually, it's much closer to a 3-2 win ratio. I randomly checked Idra's match history a while back and saw 3 straight ladder losses vs Katari, so he's pretty good.
During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. -Bisu[Shield]
ckw
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1018 Posts
November 17 2010 04:42 GMT
#24
On November 17 2010 11:58 Proto_Protoss wrote:
Well at least protoss is winning something finally...But i dont understand how toss do so well on ladder but in major tournaments they are a dwindling race


Because most of the Protoss players competing right now aren't up to par with some of the other races players who have switched over from professional level in SC1. Namely BoxeR, NaDa, you get the point.
Being weak is a choice.
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
November 17 2010 04:46 GMT
#25
On November 17 2010 12:12 Beside_kr wrote:
I see BananaMilk and theognis on that list, these were smurfs for Ilnp and EchofDream right? Any chance those guys are actually playing or is it just copycats?


i can confirm theo is legit.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
November 17 2010 04:51 GMT
#26
theognis is an oldschool broodwar player. he's good.
DuFFmAn69
Profile Joined March 2010
United States78 Posts
November 17 2010 04:51 GMT
#27
i can confirm that katari is getting really good at his 4gate strat
Adonisto
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada191 Posts
November 17 2010 04:52 GMT
#28
On November 17 2010 13:51 DuFFmAn69 wrote:
i can confirm that katari is getting really good at his 4gate strat


.. And where are you in the top 200 ?

Oh that's right.
DuFFmAn69
Profile Joined March 2010
United States78 Posts
November 17 2010 04:53 GMT
#29
On November 17 2010 13:52 Adonisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2010 13:51 DuFFmAn69 wrote:
i can confirm that katari is getting really good at his 4gate strat


.. And where are you in the top 200 ?

Oh that's right.

#23 thx for noticing
Zerokaiser
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada885 Posts
November 17 2010 04:53 GMT
#30
On November 17 2010 13:51 DuFFmAn69 wrote:
i can confirm that katari is getting really good at his 4gate strat


I'm not sure whether I'm getting trolled with that or not...

Does Katari have something unique he's working on with 4gates, or is he just getting really good at cutting cookies?
Lanaia is love.
Adonisto
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada191 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-17 04:58:32
November 17 2010 04:54 GMT
#31
On November 17 2010 13:53 DuFFmAn69 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2010 13:52 Adonisto wrote:
On November 17 2010 13:51 DuFFmAn69 wrote:
i can confirm that katari is getting really good at his 4gate strat


.. And where are you in the top 200 ?

Oh that's right.

#23 thx for noticing


Usually people in the top 200 are more active than that on TL. Still not #1 though, am I right?
Terrifyer
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States338 Posts
November 17 2010 05:03 GMT
#32
theo is ilnp!?!
eat shit and die
Sero
Profile Joined October 2010
United States692 Posts
November 17 2010 05:04 GMT
#33
On November 17 2010 13:54 Adonisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2010 13:53 DuFFmAn69 wrote:
On November 17 2010 13:52 Adonisto wrote:
On November 17 2010 13:51 DuFFmAn69 wrote:
i can confirm that katari is getting really good at his 4gate strat


.. And where are you in the top 200 ?

Oh that's right.

#23 thx for noticing


Usually people in the top 200 are more active than that on TL. Still not #1 though, am I right?

Yeah, try to play it off like you're still right after getting shit on like that. lol
<3 FlaSh HiyA Stats HoeJJa
Denizen[9]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States649 Posts
November 17 2010 05:04 GMT
#34
On November 17 2010 13:54 Adonisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2010 13:53 DuFFmAn69 wrote:
On November 17 2010 13:52 Adonisto wrote:
On November 17 2010 13:51 DuFFmAn69 wrote:
i can confirm that katari is getting really good at his 4gate strat


.. And where are you in the top 200 ?

Oh that's right.

#23 thx for noticing


Usually people in the top 200 are more active than that on TL. Still not #1 though, am I right?


You say it like anyonecan be number 1
Jaedong, Baby | Idra, Marineking, Tester, Nada
Gezz
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom81 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-17 05:14:27
November 17 2010 05:06 GMT
#35
On November 17 2010 13:54 Adonisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2010 13:53 DuFFmAn69 wrote:
On November 17 2010 13:52 Adonisto wrote:
On November 17 2010 13:51 DuFFmAn69 wrote:
i can confirm that katari is getting really good at his 4gate strat


.. And where are you in the top 200 ?

Oh that's right.

#23 thx for noticing


Usually people in the top 200 are more active than that on TL. Still not #1 though, am I right?

#1 doesn't mean you're better than #23 at all, especially since i've seen Katari make appearance's on numerous NA players streams and 1base all-in EVERY game. They're only #1 because they're mass-gaming.
sl0w
Profile Joined July 2010
United States447 Posts
November 17 2010 05:06 GMT
#36
On November 17 2010 13:54 Adonisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2010 13:53 DuFFmAn69 wrote:
On November 17 2010 13:52 Adonisto wrote:
On November 17 2010 13:51 DuFFmAn69 wrote:
i can confirm that katari is getting really good at his 4gate strat


.. And where are you in the top 200 ?

Oh that's right.

#23 thx for noticing


Usually people in the top 200 are more active than that on TL. Still not #1 though, am I right?


lol you got owned plain and simple.

Also, SeleCT plays on the KR server too so he has well over 1000 games played.
Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
November 17 2010 05:07 GMT
#37
I went from #5 to 130+ :D
Wishing you well.
Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
November 17 2010 05:07 GMT
#38
On November 17 2010 13:51 DuFFmAn69 wrote:
i can confirm that katari is getting really good at his 4gate strat

lmao. He loves his 4g, or FE 5g.
Wishing you well.
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-17 05:10:48
November 17 2010 05:09 GMT
#39
On November 17 2010 13:51 DuFFmAn69 wrote:
i can confirm that katari is getting really good at his 4gate strat


lmao I remember when ITR played on Cella's NA account Katari 4Gated him 5 games in a row.
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12248 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-17 07:34:41
November 17 2010 05:10 GMT
#40
This week's Top 200 also included the win-loss records of each player at the time of the snapshot, which means we can use their match histories on Battle.net to work backwards and determine their points. Here are the results. The bolded lines are verified entries, meaning I was able to confirm that their current point values properly matched up to their match history. The unbolded lines are entries that could not be verified because they've either played too many non-1v1s or more than 25 1v1 games such that I couldn't go far enough back in their history.


Blizz Name Record Snapshot Rating Division
1 Katari 1102-671 2834 Kelerchian X-Ray
2 SeleCT 551-211 2794 Medic Mu
3 ROOTslush 604-357 2775 Medivac Alamo
4 TTOne 572-341 2734 Medic Mu
5 AlLaboUtyOu 650-459 2905 Ehlna Bravo

6 EGStrifeCro 475-310 2703 Akilae Omicron
7 Boyardee 365-199 2927 Urun Charlie
8 CrunCher 348-240 2664 Medic Mu

9 HasHe 861-632 2646 Medivac Alamo
10 Cheese 382-231 2645 Akilae Omicron
11 dKiLLeR 285-184 2639 Hartley Quest
12 LiquidHuK 479-170 2639 Medivac Alamo
13 Baz 1296-1091 2633 Argo Echo
14 MasterAsia 348-227 2623 Kelerchian X-Ray
14 ViBE 327-217 2623 Medic Mu

16 EGIdrA 227-82 2622 Medic Mu
17 OpTiKzErO 543-404 2530 Selendis Quest
18 ROOTqxc 314-124 2605 Observer Mars
19 Warden 731-606 2845 Boros Uncle
20 EGiNkA 419-280 2583 Medivac Alamo
21 Slurgi 417-338 2581 Talematros Eta

22 Cranklodocus 600-474 2570 Horner Chi
23 DuFFmAn 611-497 2569 Medivac Alamo
24 Perplexity 561-457 2568 Medivac Alamo
24 InflowMini 924-790 2883 Scout Kilo

26 ROOTdrewbie 269-131 2564 Medic Mu
27 nEAnS 573-424 2536 Medic Mu
28 Fenix 306-140 2558 Immortal Yankee
29 dde 318-229 2557 Turaxis Yankee

30 NamhciR 379-213 2580 Observer Mars
31 PainUser 260-118 2549 Pylon Kappa
32 BrokenRhythm 758-593 2547 Medic Pepper
33 TheZealot 104-53 2546 Overmind Victor
34 lovemyRM 470-405 2540 Nagglfar Zed
35 theognis 335-244 2661 Feld Lima

36 Zelniq 988-763 2442 Medivac Alamo
37 Denelorn 190-79 2545 Victory Bravo
38 Gretorp 309-214 2526 Immortal Yankee
39 DeAtHRoW 361-214 2521 Medic Mu
40 Kangwook 490-400 2772 Feld Delta
41 DalaiLameR 106-62 2518 Uraj Dixie

42 InflowLooky 831-715 2488 Medivac Alamo
42 JJYAN 201-98 2512 Medivac Juliet
44 Mankeyz 280-209 2485 Turaxis Yankee
45 sixjaxNewsh 94-36 2505 Victory Bravo
45 PiQLiQ 998-812 2630 Shuttle Nu
47 CocoA 520-389 2502 Observer Mars
48 stev 376-308 2454 Horner Chi
49 BananaMilk 123-70 2495 Hartley Quest
50 EGMachine 221-146 2492 Kelerchian X-Ray

51 OrgA 202-128 2504 Akilae Omicron
52 InflowLinko 479-354 2475 Uraj Omega
53 LiquidTyler 203-107 2483 Zekrath Sigma
54 Mark 509-388 2481 Turaxis Yankee
55 Magulina 110-58 2480 Medivac Juliet
55 OnEMoReTrY 315-233 2480 Uraj Omega

57 ThisIsJimmy 553-437 2459 Akilae Omicron
58 Yakero 152-47 2478 Hartley Quest
59 LiquidRet 128-43 2477 Phash Kappa
60 NeverDawn 207-139 2476 Tassadar Charlie

61 EGAxslav 562-394 2514 Pylon Kappa
62 BoO 496-404 2370 Uraj Omega
63 SoFtBalL 132-65 2464 Uraj Dixie
64 Arena 190-137 2462 Victory Bravo

65 BloodThirsty 969-877 2360 Argo Echo
66 Malice 648-466 2459 Medic Mu
67 Broom 193-126 2458 Moratun Sierra
68 LiquidNazgul 179-112 2457 Medivac Juliet
69 bLuR 525-437 2580 Infestor Pepper

70 Ngry 217-141 2438 Akilae Omicron
71 Agh 630-497 2441 Medic Mu
72 sLeepisT 397-323 2439 Immortal Yankee

72 Levin 627-466 2503 Medivac Alamo
74 ReSpOnSe 743-628 2455 Observer Mars
75 CellaWerra 351-213 2433 Raven Zed
76 ROOTDdoRo 801-636 2683 Shuttle Foxtrot
77 Taurent 345-197 2429 Akilae Omicron

78 MnMVadar 691-588 2487 Observer Mars
79 AlexCMoi 384-260 2426 Lenassa Dixie
80 EnvY 575-470 2424 Observer Mars
81 dayvie 485-365 2738 Scout Kilo
81 sikatrix 396-293 2423 Medic Mu
81 NadaViKinG 273-214 2423 Tassadar Charlie
81 Rigid 621-490 2423 Medivac Alamo
85 iKillBanshee 290-232 2417 Overmind Victor

86 SPeCiaLiST 354-282 2418 Phash Kappa
86 Nadagast 258-166 2416 Talematros Eta
88 Capoch 439-330 2413 Observer Mars
89 Humble 236-176 2408 Turaxis Yankee
90 Vtmisery 369-292 2407 Observer Mars
91 Mura 482-420 2404 Medic Mu
92 rsvp 481-415 2465 Argo Echo
93 DarkCell 215-155 2399 Zergling Quest
94 FlyingSheep 323-241 2524 Infestor Pepper
94 prosu 423-351 2398 Lenassa Dixie
94 ReasoN 174-106 2398 Raven Zed

97 LuckyFool 464-374 2423 Medic Mu
97 SKU 188-128 2520 Infestor Pepper
99 Pookie 450-379 2391 Immortal Yankee
100 LegendofBert 547-471 2390 Medic Mu



Keeping in mind that the Top 200 is by points before division modifiers are applied (because divisions are not equal), this tells us a few things:

* Kelerchian X-Ray and Medic Mu are equal in rank.
- Medivac Alamo and Akilae Omicron are probably equal in rank to Kelerchian X-Ray and Medic Mu
* Ehlna Bravo is a rank below Kelerchian X-Ray
* Urun Charlie is a rank below Ehlna Bravo
* Boros Uncle is a rank below Kelerchian X-Ray and Medic Mu, but it is not known whether it is equal to Ehlna Bravo or Urun Charlie

Based on these findings we can create a kind of division hierarchy:

S-Rank:
Medic Mu
Medivac Alamo (likely)
Kelerchian X-Ray
Akilae Omicron (likely)
Hartley Quest (likely)
Horner Chi (likely)
Talematros Eta (likely)
Horner Chi (likely)
Immortal Yankee (likely)
Turaxis Yankee (likely)
Observer Mars (likely)
Pylon Kappa (likely)
Medic Pepper (likely)
Overmind Victor (likely)
Nagglfar Zeg (likely)
Selendis Quest (possible)
Uraj Dixie (likely)
Medivac Juliet (likely)
Uraj Omega
Zekrath Sigma (likely)
Phash Kappa (likely)
Tassadar Charlie
Victory Bravo (likely)
Moratun Sierra (likely)
Raven Zed (likely)
Lenassa Dixie (likely)
Zergling Quest (likely)

A-Rank:
Ehlna Bravo
Feld Lima
Infestor Pepper (likely)

B-Rank:
Urun Charlie
Feld Delta
Shuttle Foxtrot

Not Sure If A-Rank or B-Rank:
Boros Uncle
Scout Kilo (maybe C-rank?)
Shuttle Nu
Argo Echo (maybe slightly higher than A-rank?)

EDIT: Some more interesting data points:
* 2568 Medivac Alamo is equal to 2883 in Scout Kilo (+315 points)
* 2845 Boros Uncle is between 2605 and 2583 in S-Rank (between +240 and 262 points)
* 2772 Feld Delta is between 2521 and 2518 in S-Rank (between +251 and 254 points)
* 2480 Uraj Omega is equal to 2480 Medivac Juliet (confirmed identical)
* 2683 Shuttle Foxtrot is between 2433 and 2429 S-Rank (between +250 and 254 points)
* 2423 Medic Mu is equal to 2738 in Scout Kilo (+315 points again)
* 2423 Medic Mu is equal to 2423 Tassadar Charlie and 2423 Medivac Alamo
* 2524 Infestor Pepper is equal to 2398 Lenassa Dixie (+126 points)
* 2520 Infestor Pepper is probably equal to 2394 Medic Mu (LuckyFool's likely score)
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