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On November 17 2010 13:27 Darpa wrote: Go attero! hes the 1 random LoL... Also Huk Winning Raleigh i think was a recent gold medal for toss.
it was early september how is that recent ?
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Holy crap. That Toss at #1 has played an ASSLOAD of ranked games. That's almost a 2-1 win ratio even with that mass.
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Actually, it's much closer to a 3-2 win ratio. I randomly checked Idra's match history a while back and saw 3 straight ladder losses vs Katari, so he's pretty good.
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On November 17 2010 11:58 Proto_Protoss wrote: Well at least protoss is winning something finally...But i dont understand how toss do so well on ladder but in major tournaments they are a dwindling race
Because most of the Protoss players competing right now aren't up to par with some of the other races players who have switched over from professional level in SC1. Namely BoxeR, NaDa, you get the point.
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On November 17 2010 12:12 Beside_kr wrote: I see BananaMilk and theognis on that list, these were smurfs for Ilnp and EchofDream right? Any chance those guys are actually playing or is it just copycats?
i can confirm theo is legit.
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theognis is an oldschool broodwar player. he's good.
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i can confirm that katari is getting really good at his 4gate strat
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On November 17 2010 13:51 DuFFmAn69 wrote: i can confirm that katari is getting really good at his 4gate strat
.. And where are you in the top 200 ?
Oh that's right.
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On November 17 2010 13:52 Adonisto wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 13:51 DuFFmAn69 wrote: i can confirm that katari is getting really good at his 4gate strat .. And where are you in the top 200 ? Oh that's right. #23 thx for noticing
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On November 17 2010 13:51 DuFFmAn69 wrote: i can confirm that katari is getting really good at his 4gate strat
I'm not sure whether I'm getting trolled with that or not...
Does Katari have something unique he's working on with 4gates, or is he just getting really good at cutting cookies?
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On November 17 2010 13:53 DuFFmAn69 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 13:52 Adonisto wrote:On November 17 2010 13:51 DuFFmAn69 wrote: i can confirm that katari is getting really good at his 4gate strat .. And where are you in the top 200 ? Oh that's right. #23 thx for noticing
Usually people in the top 200 are more active than that on TL. Still not #1 though, am I right?
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On November 17 2010 13:54 Adonisto wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 13:53 DuFFmAn69 wrote:On November 17 2010 13:52 Adonisto wrote:On November 17 2010 13:51 DuFFmAn69 wrote: i can confirm that katari is getting really good at his 4gate strat .. And where are you in the top 200 ? Oh that's right. #23 thx for noticing Usually people in the top 200 are more active than that on TL. Still not #1 though, am I right? Yeah, try to play it off like you're still right after getting shit on like that. lol
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On November 17 2010 13:54 Adonisto wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 13:53 DuFFmAn69 wrote:On November 17 2010 13:52 Adonisto wrote:On November 17 2010 13:51 DuFFmAn69 wrote: i can confirm that katari is getting really good at his 4gate strat .. And where are you in the top 200 ? Oh that's right. #23 thx for noticing Usually people in the top 200 are more active than that on TL. Still not #1 though, am I right?
You say it like anyonecan be number 1
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On November 17 2010 13:54 Adonisto wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 13:53 DuFFmAn69 wrote:On November 17 2010 13:52 Adonisto wrote:On November 17 2010 13:51 DuFFmAn69 wrote: i can confirm that katari is getting really good at his 4gate strat .. And where are you in the top 200 ? Oh that's right. #23 thx for noticing Usually people in the top 200 are more active than that on TL. Still not #1 though, am I right? #1 doesn't mean you're better than #23 at all, especially since i've seen Katari make appearance's on numerous NA players streams and 1base all-in EVERY game. They're only #1 because they're mass-gaming.
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On November 17 2010 13:54 Adonisto wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 13:53 DuFFmAn69 wrote:On November 17 2010 13:52 Adonisto wrote:On November 17 2010 13:51 DuFFmAn69 wrote: i can confirm that katari is getting really good at his 4gate strat .. And where are you in the top 200 ? Oh that's right. #23 thx for noticing Usually people in the top 200 are more active than that on TL. Still not #1 though, am I right?
lol you got owned plain and simple.
Also, SeleCT plays on the KR server too so he has well over 1000 games played.
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I went from #5 to 130+ :D
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On November 17 2010 13:51 DuFFmAn69 wrote: i can confirm that katari is getting really good at his 4gate strat lmao. He loves his 4g, or FE 5g.
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On November 17 2010 13:51 DuFFmAn69 wrote: i can confirm that katari is getting really good at his 4gate strat
lmao I remember when ITR played on Cella's NA account Katari 4Gated him 5 games in a row.
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This week's Top 200 also included the win-loss records of each player at the time of the snapshot, which means we can use their match histories on Battle.net to work backwards and determine their points. Here are the results. The bolded lines are verified entries, meaning I was able to confirm that their current point values properly matched up to their match history. The unbolded lines are entries that could not be verified because they've either played too many non-1v1s or more than 25 1v1 games such that I couldn't go far enough back in their history.
Blizz Name Record Snapshot Rating Division 1 Katari 1102-671 2834 Kelerchian X-Ray 2 SeleCT 551-211 2794 Medic Mu 3 ROOTslush 604-357 2775 Medivac Alamo 4 TTOne 572-341 2734 Medic Mu 5 AlLaboUtyOu 650-459 2905 Ehlna Bravo 6 EGStrifeCro 475-310 2703 Akilae Omicron 7 Boyardee 365-199 2927 Urun Charlie 8 CrunCher 348-240 2664 Medic Mu 9 HasHe 861-632 2646 Medivac Alamo 10 Cheese 382-231 2645 Akilae Omicron 11 dKiLLeR 285-184 2639 Hartley Quest 12 LiquidHuK 479-170 2639 Medivac Alamo 13 Baz 1296-1091 2633 Argo Echo 14 MasterAsia 348-227 2623 Kelerchian X-Ray 14 ViBE 327-217 2623 Medic Mu 16 EGIdrA 227-82 2622 Medic Mu 17 OpTiKzErO 543-404 2530 Selendis Quest 18 ROOTqxc 314-124 2605 Observer Mars 19 Warden 731-606 2845 Boros Uncle 20 EGiNkA 419-280 2583 Medivac Alamo 21 Slurgi 417-338 2581 Talematros Eta 22 Cranklodocus 600-474 2570 Horner Chi 23 DuFFmAn 611-497 2569 Medivac Alamo 24 Perplexity 561-457 2568 Medivac Alamo 24 InflowMini 924-790 2883 Scout Kilo 26 ROOTdrewbie 269-131 2564 Medic Mu 27 nEAnS 573-424 2536 Medic Mu 28 Fenix 306-140 2558 Immortal Yankee 29 dde 318-229 2557 Turaxis Yankee 30 NamhciR 379-213 2580 Observer Mars 31 PainUser 260-118 2549 Pylon Kappa 32 BrokenRhythm 758-593 2547 Medic Pepper 33 TheZealot 104-53 2546 Overmind Victor 34 lovemyRM 470-405 2540 Nagglfar Zed 35 theognis 335-244 2661 Feld Lima 36 Zelniq 988-763 2442 Medivac Alamo 37 Denelorn 190-79 2545 Victory Bravo 38 Gretorp 309-214 2526 Immortal Yankee 39 DeAtHRoW 361-214 2521 Medic Mu 40 Kangwook 490-400 2772 Feld Delta 41 DalaiLameR 106-62 2518 Uraj Dixie 42 InflowLooky 831-715 2488 Medivac Alamo 42 JJYAN 201-98 2512 Medivac Juliet 44 Mankeyz 280-209 2485 Turaxis Yankee 45 sixjaxNewsh 94-36 2505 Victory Bravo 45 PiQLiQ 998-812 2630 Shuttle Nu 47 CocoA 520-389 2502 Observer Mars 48 stev 376-308 2454 Horner Chi 49 BananaMilk 123-70 2495 Hartley Quest 50 EGMachine 221-146 2492 Kelerchian X-Ray 51 OrgA 202-128 2504 Akilae Omicron 52 InflowLinko 479-354 2475 Uraj Omega 53 LiquidTyler 203-107 2483 Zekrath Sigma 54 Mark 509-388 2481 Turaxis Yankee 55 Magulina 110-58 2480 Medivac Juliet 55 OnEMoReTrY 315-233 2480 Uraj Omega 57 ThisIsJimmy 553-437 2459 Akilae Omicron 58 Yakero 152-47 2478 Hartley Quest 59 LiquidRet 128-43 2477 Phash Kappa 60 NeverDawn 207-139 2476 Tassadar Charlie 61 EGAxslav 562-394 2514 Pylon Kappa 62 BoO 496-404 2370 Uraj Omega 63 SoFtBalL 132-65 2464 Uraj Dixie 64 Arena 190-137 2462 Victory Bravo 65 BloodThirsty 969-877 2360 Argo Echo 66 Malice 648-466 2459 Medic Mu 67 Broom 193-126 2458 Moratun Sierra 68 LiquidNazgul 179-112 2457 Medivac Juliet 69 bLuR 525-437 2580 Infestor Pepper 70 Ngry 217-141 2438 Akilae Omicron 71 Agh 630-497 2441 Medic Mu 72 sLeepisT 397-323 2439 Immortal Yankee 72 Levin 627-466 2503 Medivac Alamo 74 ReSpOnSe 743-628 2455 Observer Mars 75 CellaWerra 351-213 2433 Raven Zed 76 ROOTDdoRo 801-636 2683 Shuttle Foxtrot 77 Taurent 345-197 2429 Akilae Omicron 78 MnMVadar 691-588 2487 Observer Mars 79 AlexCMoi 384-260 2426 Lenassa Dixie 80 EnvY 575-470 2424 Observer Mars 81 dayvie 485-365 2738 Scout Kilo 81 sikatrix 396-293 2423 Medic Mu 81 NadaViKinG 273-214 2423 Tassadar Charlie 81 Rigid 621-490 2423 Medivac Alamo 85 iKillBanshee 290-232 2417 Overmind Victor 86 SPeCiaLiST 354-282 2418 Phash Kappa 86 Nadagast 258-166 2416 Talematros Eta 88 Capoch 439-330 2413 Observer Mars 89 Humble 236-176 2408 Turaxis Yankee 90 Vtmisery 369-292 2407 Observer Mars 91 Mura 482-420 2404 Medic Mu 92 rsvp 481-415 2465 Argo Echo 93 DarkCell 215-155 2399 Zergling Quest 94 FlyingSheep 323-241 2524 Infestor Pepper 94 prosu 423-351 2398 Lenassa Dixie 94 ReasoN 174-106 2398 Raven Zed 97 LuckyFool 464-374 2423 Medic Mu 97 SKU 188-128 2520 Infestor Pepper 99 Pookie 450-379 2391 Immortal Yankee 100 LegendofBert 547-471 2390 Medic Mu
Keeping in mind that the Top 200 is by points before division modifiers are applied (because divisions are not equal), this tells us a few things:
* Kelerchian X-Ray and Medic Mu are equal in rank. - Medivac Alamo and Akilae Omicron are probably equal in rank to Kelerchian X-Ray and Medic Mu * Ehlna Bravo is a rank below Kelerchian X-Ray * Urun Charlie is a rank below Ehlna Bravo * Boros Uncle is a rank below Kelerchian X-Ray and Medic Mu, but it is not known whether it is equal to Ehlna Bravo or Urun Charlie
Based on these findings we can create a kind of division hierarchy:
S-Rank: Medic Mu Medivac Alamo (likely) Kelerchian X-Ray Akilae Omicron (likely) Hartley Quest (likely) Horner Chi (likely) Talematros Eta (likely) Horner Chi (likely) Immortal Yankee (likely) Turaxis Yankee (likely) Observer Mars (likely) Pylon Kappa (likely) Medic Pepper (likely) Overmind Victor (likely) Nagglfar Zeg (likely) Selendis Quest (possible) Uraj Dixie (likely) Medivac Juliet (likely) Uraj Omega Zekrath Sigma (likely) Phash Kappa (likely) Tassadar Charlie Victory Bravo (likely) Moratun Sierra (likely) Raven Zed (likely) Lenassa Dixie (likely) Zergling Quest (likely)
A-Rank: Ehlna Bravo Feld Lima Infestor Pepper (likely)
B-Rank: Urun Charlie Feld Delta Shuttle Foxtrot
Not Sure If A-Rank or B-Rank: Boros Uncle Scout Kilo (maybe C-rank?) Shuttle Nu Argo Echo (maybe slightly higher than A-rank?)
EDIT: Some more interesting data points: * 2568 Medivac Alamo is equal to 2883 in Scout Kilo (+315 points) * 2845 Boros Uncle is between 2605 and 2583 in S-Rank (between +240 and 262 points) * 2772 Feld Delta is between 2521 and 2518 in S-Rank (between +251 and 254 points) * 2480 Uraj Omega is equal to 2480 Medivac Juliet (confirmed identical) * 2683 Shuttle Foxtrot is between 2433 and 2429 S-Rank (between +250 and 254 points) * 2423 Medic Mu is equal to 2738 in Scout Kilo (+315 points again) * 2423 Medic Mu is equal to 2423 Tassadar Charlie and 2423 Medivac Alamo * 2524 Infestor Pepper is equal to 2398 Lenassa Dixie (+126 points) * 2520 Infestor Pepper is probably equal to 2394 Medic Mu (LuckyFool's likely score)
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