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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
Decided to create replaypack of games I've played today. Critize, ask, give tips or give any feedback! ~7 PvZ's ~7 PvT's 1 PvR 0 PvP (:/) Games include some crazy speed Void Ray action and 6pools on Shakuras Platseu =P Download: http://www.2shared.com/file/1uAmFdJ3/Replaypack.html If you guys give good feedback I may post another replaypack too~~ | ||
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leveller
Sweden1840 Posts
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kewkew
Australia31 Posts
ty | ||
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WakaDoDo
Sweden1183 Posts
Thanks again! | ||
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Marzipan
Germany19 Posts
 Will definitely take a look. | ||
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Perscienter
957 Posts
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kewkew
Australia31 Posts
edit: that osho guy is retarded | ||
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Marzipan
Germany19 Posts
On October 30 2010 19:12 Perscienter wrote: I can't download it probably due to ad block. There is a very smal "click here" under the ad!  | ||
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Vz0
Canada378 Posts
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SpiralCompass
United Kingdom147 Posts
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Vequeth
United Kingdom1116 Posts
Edit: Lots of 4 gating so far... | ||
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SpiralCompass
United Kingdom147 Posts
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KnowMe
Germany228 Posts
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vohne
Philippines197 Posts
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
On October 30 2010 19:41 SpiralCompass wrote: yes but the first PvZ not against osho is a nexus first. Actually Nexus first was the second game ^^ | ||
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DreamOen
Spain1400 Posts
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SpiralCompass
United Kingdom147 Posts
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Agh
United States937 Posts
does not compute. It's like such a bad idea I guess I could see it working. | ||
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
He needs to post more replays for us Protoss players :D @welmu Hopefully you post more I love to see other protoss plays especially PvP which is very unfortunate since you haven't played any  | ||
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Potatoto
Sweden12 Posts
Just watched the 6pool on shakuras. That was so damn hilarious... I spat my drink all over my keyboard. That Osho fella.. oh my | ||
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Lucius2
Germany548 Posts
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
On October 30 2010 20:18 Lucius2 wrote: im feeling nexus first builds die pretty easily vs roach rushes Isn't this the same as if u scout a 6pool to late and u went a late gateway u would die pretty easily? There are risks in every strategy in every game. | ||
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heishe
Germany2284 Posts
On October 30 2010 19:14 kewkew wrote: lol @ the first replay. Such bm 0.o edit: that osho guy is retarded osho? I believe I've played that guy a couple of times before, my brain associates the name with something bad but I can't get a grip on it. | ||
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Potatoto
Sweden12 Posts
On October 30 2010 20:28 heishe wrote: osho? I believe I've played that guy a couple of times before, my brain associates the name with something bad but I can't get a grip on it. + Show Spoiler + In the first replay, he calls 15 Nexus, 16 Forge noob cheese and starts bashing on Welmu. All while 6 pooling. | ||
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KnowMe
Germany228 Posts
dont make him feel bad for being nice :p | ||
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vposud
United States36 Posts
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
I don't have allot of time to watch these, can anyone tell me which of the replays aren't 4gate/Early all-in? | ||
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Nuri
New Zealand280 Posts
On October 30 2010 21:15 Dommk wrote: Nice I don't have allot of time to watch these, can anyone tell me which of the replays aren't 4gate/Early all-in? from what i've watched they were all either 4gate, allin. or cheese | ||
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haegN
Norway533 Posts
Please post more  | ||
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schisch
Germany123 Posts
On October 30 2010 20:28 heishe wrote: osho? I believe I've played that guy a couple of times before, my brain associates the name with something bad but I can't get a grip on it. yeah i know that osho guy too.. flaming like crazy all the time i meet him thanks for the replays.. im zerg but i enjoyed them | ||
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Aus.Force
Australia1278 Posts
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Innsmouth-Zerg
Austria137 Posts
On October 30 2010 19:49 Agh wrote: 6 pool on shakuras? does not compute. It's like such a bad idea I guess I could see it working. it worked because he fast expended, but the zerg only did it as a revenge because he canon rushed his expo the game before | ||
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StriverzG
United States115 Posts
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StriverzG
United States115 Posts
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vizir
Finland154 Posts
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Erectum
France194 Posts
On October 30 2010 22:04 vizir wrote: I just watched the PvZs and gotta say im a bit disapointed. Expected to see some solid builds but most of the games you lose and most of the wins are 4-gates. Oh well guess you proved that 15 nexus FFE doesn't work.. Good summary i would like to see more real games for a 2300 ... The level is that low in top diamond ? | ||
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EmilA
Denmark4618 Posts
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
Games against Chills are also pretty good, check em out! | ||
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zingmars
Latvia189 Posts
Thanks. | ||
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Goliathsorrow
Italy317 Posts
Sounds about right. Good replays tho, gave me a lot to look at, ty. | ||
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
On October 30 2010 23:23 zingmars wrote: Awesome games. I'm on a mobile internet connection (1mbps suprisingly tho.) so I'm unable to play any 1v1 really, so I was looking for a timewaster. Thanks. i play with 512 kbps and it isnt too bad o.o thanks for the reps welmu! You should take me under your wing and teach me not to suck at protoss :D | ||
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desRow
Canada2654 Posts
On October 30 2010 18:57 Welmu wrote: Hi all! 2300+ Europe Protoss here~ Decided to create replaypack of games I've played today. Critize, ask, give tips or give any feedback! ~7 PvZ's ~7 PvT's 1 PvR 0 PvP (:/) Games include some crazy speed Void Ray action and 6pools on Shakuras Platseu =P Download: http://www.2shared.com/file/1uAmFdJ3/Replaypack.html If you guys give good feedback I may post another replaypack too~~ just my personal opinion, the replay pack should only include winning replays, i find replays where toss loses useless to watch. otherwise thanks for the upload. | ||
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
On October 31 2010 00:36 desrow wrote: just my personal opinion, the replay pack should only include winning replays, i find replays where toss loses useless to watch. otherwise thanks for the upload. I think replaypacks point is to show games from some small period, but I could mark who won the game in the titles, if I do new replaypack =) | ||
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BusyBee
Canada22 Posts
ops my bad never seen the post above, im glad you posted the ones where toss loses to watch because as a zerg player i am having major trouble with 2200+ protoss and getting just swamped. so thank you for helping the whole TL community and not just protoss! props | ||
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BlueyD
Canada437 Posts
I disagree with desrow, I think having losses in a replay pack is very useful. We can often learn more from these than from the wins. It shows us what can go wrong and what we have to look out for, so please include them if you release another replay pack. | ||
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CptHandsome
Denmark95 Posts
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
I was gonna say "Wow..that's a ton of games to watch!" | ||
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DueleR
United States207 Posts
How are you finding zerg? I'm a mid-diamond toss but I've been struggling PvZ lately. I notice you 15 nexus prettyoften. I tried that but always seem to die to something before 10 minutes (nydus, mutas, roaches, sometimes blings, etc...) | ||
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
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Lalgee
United Kingdom65 Posts
On October 31 2010 03:11 justiceknight wrote: To OP, before i dl your replays can i have a look at your bnet profile?? thanks. 1. Go to sc2ranks.com 2. Search for Welmu | ||
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FeeL_ThE_RusH
Ireland227 Posts
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jax1492
United States1632 Posts
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Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
Be great if you could upload a few more of these packs | ||
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BlitZl0l
United States32 Posts
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Tuneful
United States327 Posts
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green.at
Austria1459 Posts
nononono He's asking for permission i guess. he can't be unable to use the internet to finde something he wants to see. -.- | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
Either try to play economic and lose to a FE protoss, or early pool and auto-win. It feels like such a coin flip right now haha. | ||
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Vz0
Canada378 Posts
On October 30 2010 22:32 Erectum wrote: Good summary i would like to see more real games for a 2300 ... The level is that low in top diamond ? Seriously stfu if you don't like it and fuck off. This guy is being generous sharing his high level replay yet you guys criticize him by saying his games are not real and that he's low level diamond ? So what if he 4 gates, it's standard. I bet 99% of protoss 4 gates. | ||
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Wr3k
Canada2533 Posts
If this is a rep-pack at least pick good games? I don't doubt you are a great player but I didn't really see anything skilled in either of them. Maybe I just got unlucky in the ones I watched. Ill watch a few more before I delete the folder. Watched two more, first one you get early pooled trying to nexus first and die, 2nd one was a decent PvT but didn't last long at all, you stopped his 3rax push and then killed his expo when he went for it and GG'ed him. From what I've seen out of the first 4 reps I don't think its worth watching the rest. You may be good but I don't see it. | ||
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Knutzi
Norway664 Posts
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DreamSailor
Canada433 Posts
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desRow
Canada2654 Posts
On October 31 2010 02:45 BlueyD wrote: Thanks! As a protoss, this is certain to help me. I disagree with desrow, I think having losses in a replay pack is very useful. We can often learn more from these than from the wins. It shows us what can go wrong and what we have to look out for, so please include them if you release another replay pack. yea i dont think so we dont need to know why he losses... sc2 is not steady yet, most losses are due to build orders. | ||
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zonic
New Zealand64 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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da_head
Canada3350 Posts
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Aegeis
United States1619 Posts
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Knutzi
Norway664 Posts
On October 31 2010 08:52 zonic wrote: Wow.. thats 2300 diamond play? youre pretty bad dude. he's still better than 99% of the people on this forum, probably including you. | ||
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Blessed
United Kingdom235 Posts
On October 31 2010 08:52 zonic wrote: Wow.. thats 2300 diamond play? youre pretty bad dude. please, show us how it's done. | ||
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RaFeStaR
United States161 Posts
Helppp | ||
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leveller
Sweden1840 Posts
On October 31 2010 08:52 zonic wrote: Wow.. thats 2300 diamond play? youre pretty bad dude. User was warned for this post Come on, zonic vs Welmu, you'll take this one 3-0 in a BO5 ez pz wont you? | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
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ocho
United States172 Posts
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smoorn
Poland66 Posts
@edit On October 31 2010 09:26 ocho wrote: i recommend everyone watch welmuvsmanofbothway0, epic game that totally deserved to be in a replay pack. AHAHAHAHAHAHAh NICE GAME :D | ||
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[Atomic]Peace
United States451 Posts
Thanks again for posting the replay pack. If you post another I'll definitely be watching it. Corwin | ||
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
FE games against Zerg may feel little weak, but I was trying that kind of FE first time yesterday and so wan't quite experienced with it ^^. I think I have to go Forge first before Nexus naow >_> And thx everyone for positive feedback again! Gonna post new replaypack next week and I promise it will be better! Also gonna play those games on afternoon so you get to see more high-caliber opponents | ||
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FALAPARK
United States224 Posts
On October 30 2010 19:58 iG.ClouD wrote: Hehe, reminds of me when I was still unknown in Starcraft and was posting my iccup replay packs every season. Too bad you won't be able to do it anymore when you start competing seriously. Keep the good job anyway, good luck :D Who are you? O.o | ||
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Goliathsorrow
Italy317 Posts
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ClouD Unless I failed to read somekinf of sarcasm joke. | ||
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311311
10 Posts
If I click the big DL icon, brings me to some xvid thing or some other random DL thing If I click the tiny "click here" to save to pc, I get a file request is invalid if I right click and save as on the click here, I get unable to download, no such interface exist error | ||
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hordeau
United States157 Posts
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lofi01
Australia52 Posts
thanks really enjoyed the games & i have to admit the osho games are just ROFL!!! cannon rushing at the start when your fe is so hard to stop ^^....... | ||
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
On October 31 2010 14:24 Welmu wrote: Actually, I lost to Predy's pure mech about 8 times row in custom games so I had to find out someway to counter mech and Void Ray's has been working superior. I think I haven't lost against Mech with Void Rays yet =P FE games against Zerg may feel little weak, but I was trying that kind of FE first time yesterday and so wan't quite experienced with it ^^. I think I have to go Forge first before Nexus naow >_> And thx everyone for positive feedback again! Gonna post new replaypack next week and I promise it will be better! Also gonna play those games on afternoon so you get to see more high-caliber opponents ooh more reps...tasty. Since you're also on EU and im a lowly gold league-er, i was wondering if i could add you up and ask you for advice sometimes on what to do in certain situations? I promise not to be overly annoying :p | ||
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phos4
Germany226 Posts
ive got a question on ur 2gate robo buildorder. why do you go second gas so early? you have 300 gas vor a very long time and ur expo comes relatively late because of that. alternatively maybe build a few senttys faster, or are they not woth their cost in an very early confrontation? | ||
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
@ phos4: It was just silly mistake. Normally gas is always under 200 >_> | ||
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PredY
Czech Republic1731 Posts
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nehcnhoj
United States213 Posts
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
On October 31 2010 18:41 Welmu wrote: @ TheAntZ: Send PM here on Teamliquid and I'll answer your guestions =P Thanks dude =] you're a boss | ||
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Luvz
Norway356 Posts
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Lalgee
United Kingdom65 Posts
EDIT On October 31 2010 08:52 zonic wrote: Wow.. thats 2300 diamond play? youre pretty bad dude. User was warned for this post Posts like this make me wish you had to attach an bnet account to your profile before you can post in the sc2 forums I am pumped for a zonic - Welmu match! | ||
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J_rocwz
Canada18 Posts
Please | ||
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dilbags
Australia13 Posts
I don't think you need to scout vertically on shakuras plateau, the enemy is always on the other side of the map, either horizontally, or diagonally. Edit: Shakuras Plateau linky, all sorts of good info about this map http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=158705 | ||
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lundell100
Sweden232 Posts
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Koh
United Kingdom111 Posts
On October 31 2010 21:23 dilbags wrote: haha probably first time a bronzie can give a 2300+ diamond advice; I don't think you need to scout vertically on shakuras plateau, the enemy is always on the other side of the map, either horizontally, or diagonally. hope i'm not wrong This is interesting, can someone confirm it? | ||
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DaemonX
545 Posts
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Stabby.aus
Australia94 Posts
nice pack | ||
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MasterReY
Germany2708 Posts
Im getting an infinite "Loading file info..." instead of a download link on 2shared :/ | ||
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junemermaid
United States981 Posts
People need to learn how to play the game, on both sides. | ||
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cory1234
United States25 Posts
On October 31 2010 23:53 MasterReY wrote: can anyone rehost this pack please? Im getting an infinite "Loading file info..." instead of a download link on 2shared :/ I can't even download it. I click the link, and there is nowhere to click to download the file. The only download I see takes me to a game..tried Firefox and IE. | ||
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Hjalte
Denmark7 Posts
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green.at
Austria1459 Posts
On October 31 2010 19:11 PredY wrote: welmu hi! sup <3 we gotta try out you going voidrays against my mech :D And i'd be very interested in the replays of it! | ||
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
@ Hjalte: nice I found out pretty good way to play PvZ and have pretty good win percentage so far~ BTW, next replaypack gonna include games against WhiteRa and Madfrog Also, only once done four warpgate rush today | ||
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arew
Lithuania1861 Posts
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Ganches
Sweden33 Posts
However, this really wasn't much of a good replaypack man. I'm sure you could play for like a week and organize a proper pack with just decent games. This pack had like 2-3 decent/good games with the rest just being poor 4 gate / 6 pool games and whatnot. Interesting 15 nexus... Though, it didn't seem to work out too well most of the time. | ||
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Mentor
Germany219 Posts
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ryndaris
263 Posts
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
100% true, definitely confirmed, yes | ||
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MasterReY
Germany2708 Posts
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Clearout
Norway1060 Posts
Would like to see more "standard" midgame to lategame if youre making another | ||
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haflo
140 Posts
using drops + moma ship (0.o) to break contain was very beautifull to see and quite original . also VW's against terran mech (i think also against chills) was pretty sweet and nothing i saw too often . so thank you for those ! hope to see more | ||
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Koh
United Kingdom111 Posts
Alright then, 100% useful, cheers | ||
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kemsley
United Arab Emirates137 Posts
The smac talk is so funny, that first guy who six pools and then you beat on Xel Naga Caverns is such a prick. | ||
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l90 Proof
64 Posts
I had a couple questions if you have the time -- Do you ever have a follow up in your 4gate doesn't kill him? Also, is there any map where you use another FE besides 15 nexus v Z? Thanks! | ||
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l90 Proof
64 Posts
Including games where you get 6pooled, or 4gate, or lose/get roflstomped (blind VR rush vs mass marine was HILARIOUS) are incredibly useful to those of us trying to learn the game. First, it demonstrates the variety of builds at high level play. Second, it lets users who are paying attention see how to adjust play based on map/opponents Third, it shows how important scouting can be. On the scouting note - I know I'm completely unqualified to give advice as a low diamond player myself, but I would recommend in PvT that you poke with your first 2stalker 1Zealot force. You already chronoboost it out so it will never be in danger of facing a superior enemy force and dying unnecessarily, and it allows you to do a little damage to overly greedy terrans while also getting some really amazing scouting info in that dead couple minutes before your first obs gets to their base. The only reason I can see not to poke with that force is fear of delayed reapers, but if I am wrong please correct me. | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
On November 01 2010 12:50 kemsley wrote: There is one game vs Chill that is really superb - the one with the mothership - The Terran does this horrible camp outside his base at 7:30 with two tanks two marauders, two marines and a viking and I couldn't see any way to get out of it easily! Really worth a watch. WP The smac talk is so funny, that first guy who six pools and then you beat on Xel Naga Caverns is such a prick. You watch the replays "backwards". They are sorted by date and time so the latest game is in the top of the list. So first he won on Caverns and then he got 6pooled. Those were the two last games in the pack. | ||
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