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ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
October 24 2010 02:17 GMT
#101
too bad his last hurrah as terran was a lost though
fuck lag
TLOBrian
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States453 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-24 02:22:15
October 24 2010 02:21 GMT
#102
People are thinking "Oh now that Zerg is imba, TLO is switching to Zerg." That is not the case. He was experimenting with Zerg before hand, pregistered as Zerg, and then the patch came out. IMO TLO did it at just the right time, as Zerg is starting to become viable. By viable I mean, two people of equal skill at the top level, one is T, one is Z, and there's an equal chance of either of them winning. It used to be a T steamroll with huge early game imbalances. It's starting to equal out, but its not quite there yet.

Nevertheless, I hope to see more creative Zerg play from my favorite player!
Steven Bonnell II is the friggin man.
sicp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States13 Posts
October 24 2010 02:21 GMT
#103
I love his Zerg play, so this is great news. OTOH, I'm going to miss seeing nukes ^_-
Pills
Profile Joined October 2010
206 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-24 02:22:47
October 24 2010 02:21 GMT
#104
On October 24 2010 11:14 Merikh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 10:49 Heosat wrote:
Dario did not switch because Zerg is the flavour of the month in imbalance (and I think Blizzcon proved that). Instead he just enjoys the gameplay more and feels he can do better. All the team fully support him in his decision.

We may release replays from his Zerg practice over the last month in a future weekly.


Didn't he say the same thing about terran when he started to main terran?


Terran as a race has changed a lot. Terran used to be defined by early aggression, since they need to do damage or else they will fall behind in macro against Protoss and Zerg.

Now that most early aggression has been nullified by the new patches, Terran's options in the early game have significantly been limited, and the diversity of options and ability to innovate was probably what TLO enjoyed as Terran. Blizzard should have made early aggression more costly, so that Terran's macro will be punished significantly from early aggression like it was in Brood War (you had to do damage in Brood War through early rushes or else you fall massively behind because of no mules) rather than just getting rid of it altogether.

Anyways, still not sure about this move, but I wish TLO the best of luck. It would rock to see TLO kick ass as Zerg.
MythicalMage
Profile Joined May 2010
1360 Posts
October 24 2010 02:22 GMT
#105
On October 24 2010 02:17 tieya wrote:
terran gets strong he goes to terran, zerg gets strong he goes to zerg

lets see if he will stick to a race

not dissing him in anyway, i actually really liked how he played zerg, i kind of hope he sticks with it this time.

That's the way he should play. When he was random, he found a high percentage of losses, so he race-picked Terran and Zerg. When he started losing more with Zerg, he focused on Terran, which he had for a while stated that he would choose if he had to choose one. Now he finds himself losing more with Terran so he switches to Zerg which he presumably has a higher win rate with. That's what all players SHOULD do, especially sponsored players/teams.
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
October 24 2010 02:22 GMT
#106
On October 24 2010 02:20 StarSense wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 02:18 HollowLord wrote:
Well I don't think we'll ever see him switch to Protoss, he seems to really hate playing as toss so he might flipflop between zerg and terran.


GSL In-Game Regulations: you must play with the race you registered with (Terran, Protoss, Zerg, Random).


im sure that is for each GSL tho.
TheRPGAddict
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1403 Posts
October 24 2010 02:23 GMT
#107
On October 24 2010 02:17 tieya wrote:
terran gets strong he goes to terran, zerg gets strong he goes to zerg

lets see if he will stick to a race

not dissing him in anyway, i actually really liked how he played zerg, i kind of hope he sticks with it this time.
Well, he did random for a long time before sticking with Terran. I guess its just the advantage of playing random. He can do those things because of his solid understanding of all 3 races.
Heosat
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia481 Posts
October 24 2010 02:24 GMT
#108
On October 24 2010 11:16 sc2lime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 11:10 Heosat wrote:
On October 24 2010 11:06 sc2lime wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:31 Nagano wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:28 lim1017 wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:25 Meff wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:17 tieya wrote:
terran gets strong he goes to terran, zerg gets strong he goes to zerg

lets see if he will stick to a race

Makes sense. TLO is a strong all-around player (as opposed to specialized, mono-race ones) and he's a beacon of creativity. I think that it would be interesting to see the way he can exploit the changes put forth by each new patch.



spin master right here.

On a side note i believe pre patch zergs deserve some credit for sticking to their guns (even though i never really thought they were UP much), we see a whole bunch of people switching/trying zerg our after only a couple weeks of this new patch


I agree. I have much respect for the people who make their race work, whether or not it's considered stronger than the others.

Idra, zenio, Fruitdealer, all these guys stuck it out, made it work, and that's why they have the respect they do.

TLO switching immediately after a patch like this is a little disappointing.

I feel the same way. I guess whatever wins you games.

Much respect for those players who stuck with zerg and owned prepatch.


Again, this was not the way it was intended to appear.

He was already entered as playing Zerg at Blizzcon before 1.1.2 came out and it was a shock that it came out when it did as we were all expecting 1.1.2 in November


I don't mean to offend or anything. Was just basing it off your quote here.

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On October 24 2010 01:55 Heosat wrote:
I think you nailed it on the head well.

Dario has always felt that Zerg suited his play style the best and now that the early game options in Terran have been restricted he decided it was a suitable time to change. Expect more infestors, ultralisks and counter-attacking zerglings in the near future.




I misstated what I intended there. He was planning to switch before 1.1.2 but it forced his hand when it arrived and negated his early game Terran.

I do believe he was going to race pick at Blizzcon but changed his mind entirely once 1.1.2 came out.
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DJ Roomba
Profile Joined October 2010
158 Posts
October 24 2010 02:26 GMT
#109
That makes 3 members of tl being zerg now right?
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
October 24 2010 02:26 GMT
#110
On October 24 2010 02:22 MetalSlug wrote:
I dont care waht race he plays aslong as he keeps entertaining us with inovative builds.

This, haha.
It's sad to see another foreigner Terran leaving the field though, I hope more of them will fill his shoes in the upcoming seasons. (Looking at you, Select).
Heosat
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia481 Posts
October 24 2010 02:26 GMT
#111
On October 24 2010 11:26 DJ Roomba wrote:
That makes 3 members of tl being zerg now right?


Correct. In Korea we will have 3 Zerg, 1 Protoss and 1 Terran.
Liquid ftw!
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Vz0
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada378 Posts
October 24 2010 02:27 GMT
#112
On October 24 2010 11:24 Heosat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 11:16 sc2lime wrote:
On October 24 2010 11:10 Heosat wrote:
On October 24 2010 11:06 sc2lime wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:31 Nagano wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:28 lim1017 wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:25 Meff wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:17 tieya wrote:
terran gets strong he goes to terran, zerg gets strong he goes to zerg

lets see if he will stick to a race

Makes sense. TLO is a strong all-around player (as opposed to specialized, mono-race ones) and he's a beacon of creativity. I think that it would be interesting to see the way he can exploit the changes put forth by each new patch.



spin master right here.

On a side note i believe pre patch zergs deserve some credit for sticking to their guns (even though i never really thought they were UP much), we see a whole bunch of people switching/trying zerg our after only a couple weeks of this new patch


I agree. I have much respect for the people who make their race work, whether or not it's considered stronger than the others.

Idra, zenio, Fruitdealer, all these guys stuck it out, made it work, and that's why they have the respect they do.

TLO switching immediately after a patch like this is a little disappointing.

I feel the same way. I guess whatever wins you games.

Much respect for those players who stuck with zerg and owned prepatch.


Again, this was not the way it was intended to appear.

He was already entered as playing Zerg at Blizzcon before 1.1.2 came out and it was a shock that it came out when it did as we were all expecting 1.1.2 in November


I don't mean to offend or anything. Was just basing it off your quote here.

On October 24 2010 01:55 Heosat wrote:
I think you nailed it on the head well.

Dario has always felt that Zerg suited his play style the best and now that the early game options in Terran have been restricted he decided it was a suitable time to change. Expect more infestors, ultralisks and counter-attacking zerglings in the near future.




I misstated what I intended there. He was planning to switch before 1.1.2 but it forced his hand when it arrived and negated his early game Terran.

I do believe he was going to race pick at Blizzcon but changed his mind entirely once 1.1.2 came out.


why not just say this.

TLO has always wanted to play zerg.
TLO HAS DECIDED he wants to play zerg at blizzcon (so hes on the verge of switching to zerg)
Patch comes out
TLO says okay its time, *switch*

DONE.
Karthane
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1183 Posts
October 24 2010 02:27 GMT
#113
Wow, Morrow, now TLO..it's a good day to be a Zerg.
hiyo_bye
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States737 Posts
October 24 2010 02:28 GMT
#114
He should just play random like the cool people.
Random
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-24 02:34:15
October 24 2010 02:29 GMT
#115
This is fine I suppose but I hope this isn't a trend where he just FOTM's everytime a race changes.

I do enjoy his zerg play tho.

Oh and don't give me the whole "he always thought Zerg was best for his playstyle." If that was the case he should of played zerg like everyone else who stuck with it.

Again, obviously he is free to do anything, but don't try to defend it with "well he was going to eventually anyway."

Ultimately though, I hope he is very successful as zerg. He will now always be under the radar of Idra, and maybe even Dimaga, whereas as terran he was on top.

You can for sure say though that TLO left his impact on the terran world... he made nukes a viable strat in positioning wars.
sc2lime
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada513 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-24 02:30:10
October 24 2010 02:29 GMT
#116
On October 24 2010 11:27 Karthane wrote:
Wow, Morrow, now TLO..it's a good day to be a Zerg.

Now a lot of my games are zerg mirrors. I guess it's time to go back to Terran.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11355 Posts
October 24 2010 02:30 GMT
#117
On October 24 2010 11:06 sc2lime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 02:31 Nagano wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:28 lim1017 wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:25 Meff wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:17 tieya wrote:
terran gets strong he goes to terran, zerg gets strong he goes to zerg

lets see if he will stick to a race

Makes sense. TLO is a strong all-around player (as opposed to specialized, mono-race ones) and he's a beacon of creativity. I think that it would be interesting to see the way he can exploit the changes put forth by each new patch.



spin master right here.

On a side note i believe pre patch zergs deserve some credit for sticking to their guns (even though i never really thought they were UP much), we see a whole bunch of people switching/trying zerg our after only a couple weeks of this new patch


I agree. I have much respect for the people who make their race work, whether or not it's considered stronger than the others.

Idra, zenio, Fruitdealer, all these guys stuck it out, made it work, and that's why they have the respect they do.

TLO switching immediately after a patch like this is a little disappointing.

I feel the same way. I guess whatever wins you games.

Much respect for those players who stuck with zerg and owned prepatch.


I don't think this is quite fair as the reason people loved TLO so much was not only that he came up with creative strats and won, but that he also played random. Unfortunately his Protoss was hindering his play and GSL is a little more strict on switching around. But I'm all for TLO mixing it up. It would be awesome if he could still go random.
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Char711
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States862 Posts
October 24 2010 02:35 GMT
#118
I think enough people have come in to disprove the notion of TLO doing a full switch. But, let's be clear: this is not like MorroW. MorroW was starting and TLO was continuing. Considering that TLO has done Random --> Terran/Zerg --> Terran --> Zerg this is not some patch related thing. Never mind the speculation with MorroW being in school and race switching to cover up his lack of practice (not my thought, it was a recent SotG with Artosis and IdrA on it). Now that I've done so many italics . . .

I'm really disappointed. TLO has been my favorite player and SC2 figure aside from Day[9], so I'm pretty upset. That said, he's an awesome guy and I know I'll still love watching his games (his Zerg ones are sweet, too). Besides, BoxeR has been getting me really excited about Terran, and his games against FruitDealer? Epic.
"If you can chill, chill." -Liquid`Tyler "Special tactics." -White-Ra
Aprikosen
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden53 Posts
October 24 2010 02:36 GMT
#119
TLAF-Liquid will not have a single player qualify for GSL 3.
MythicalMage
Profile Joined May 2010
1360 Posts
October 24 2010 02:38 GMT
#120
On October 24 2010 11:36 Aprikosen wrote:
TLAF-Liquid will not have a single player qualify for GSL 3.

Well it wasn't out of the question that they wouldn't for one or two either. Doesn't really mean anything.
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