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NoXious90
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom160 Posts
October 22 2010 14:47 GMT
#341
he's ten times better than tasteless, he just lacks knowledge
Klamity
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States994 Posts
October 22 2010 14:51 GMT
#342
I think it's much easier to fix a lack of knowledge than a lack of voice. Jason Lee has great potential and I hope he eventually becomes a regular caster.
Don't believe in yourself, believe in me, who believes in you.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
October 22 2010 14:51 GMT
#343
Some people here seem to think every caster has to be a walking encyclopedia to be effective. Imo, Jason did a great job and really improved from his first cast with Idra to today with Assem. He's just as entertaining as Tasteless, is quite articulate when he speaks and has the flow of the cast go smoothly. You can knock him for not being quite as knowledgeable as other casters, but that is why you pair him with someone like Idra and Assem.
GP
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1056 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 15:01:37
October 22 2010 14:59 GMT
#344
On October 22 2010 23:51 setzer wrote:
Some people here seem to think every caster has to be a walking encyclopedia to be effective. Imo, Jason did a great job and really improved from his first cast with Idra to today with Assem. He's just as entertaining as Tasteless, is quite articulate when he speaks and has the flow of the cast go smoothly. You can knock him for not being quite as knowledgeable as other casters, but that is why you pair him with someone like Idra and Assem.

Yeah, but it's obvious he doesn't even have knowledge of basic foundations of SC2. I don't need him to be an encyclopedia, I need him to know how high-ground advantage works, I need him to know important tech buildings to look out for, etc. Map-awareness is also really important as a caster too, which I wasn't impressed by from him at all. For instance, it was several minutes today before he even looked at the hidden starport in the final Ensnare match, he just mentioned "oh there's a starport in the bottom right of the map." Of coarse I was watching the low quality stream and couldn't see what he was talking about.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
October 22 2010 15:13 GMT
#345
Honnestly, I don't like him and I'm impatient for Tastosis's return. Don't get me wrong, it's awesome that Jason Lee try to help like that and he put a lot of effort in it, BUT he really really lack game knowledge and it's often painfull to listen to him (Assem isnt helping that much either). And unlike most people I actually don't like his voice either, I can't explain it but I like tasteless's voice much better (maybe because I discovered starcraft with him).
Anyway, it's nice of him to help like that (and the others too).
ragingfungus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States271 Posts
October 22 2010 15:14 GMT
#346
On October 22 2010 23:59 GP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 23:51 setzer wrote:
Some people here seem to think every caster has to be a walking encyclopedia to be effective. Imo, Jason did a great job and really improved from his first cast with Idra to today with Assem. He's just as entertaining as Tasteless, is quite articulate when he speaks and has the flow of the cast go smoothly. You can knock him for not being quite as knowledgeable as other casters, but that is why you pair him with someone like Idra and Assem.

Yeah, but it's obvious he doesn't even have knowledge of basic foundations of SC2. I don't need him to be an encyclopedia, I need him to know how high-ground advantage works, I need him to know important tech buildings to look out for, etc. Map-awareness is also really important as a caster too, which I wasn't impressed by from him at all. For instance, it was several minutes today before he even looked at the hidden starport in the final Ensnare match, he just mentioned "oh there's a starport in the bottom right of the map." Of coarse I was watching the low quality stream and couldn't see what he was talking about.


They are following the korean obs he has no control over going to the starport.
Logic>Everything
Maul
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia130 Posts
October 22 2010 15:19 GMT
#347
On October 22 2010 23:51 setzer wrote:
Some people here seem to think every caster has to be a walking encyclopedia to be effective. Imo, Jason did a great job and really improved from his first cast with Idra to today with Assem. He's just as entertaining as Tasteless, is quite articulate when he speaks and has the flow of the cast go smoothly. You can knock him for not being quite as knowledgeable as other casters, but that is why you pair him with someone like Idra and Assem.


He doesn't have to be a SC2 pro-gamer or even a gold/diamond level player. I understand the concept of an announcing role in commentary. But he needs to have the basics down to call the action.

I watch ESPNs coverage of the WSOP and I've never heard Lon McCarren call an ace of hearts the ace of diamonds, or a straight a flush. He's admitted to not being very good at poker, or understand why the players play how they do despite seeing their cards, but he does a great job of simply calling the action accurately and leaves the analysis to Norman Chad.

I understand the guy is just substituting so I'm not happy about being so critical towards him, but I just can't make myself watch any more of the games he casts because it's too distracting from the game.
GP
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1056 Posts
October 22 2010 15:35 GMT
#348
On October 23 2010 00:14 ragingfungus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 23:59 GP wrote:
On October 22 2010 23:51 setzer wrote:
Some people here seem to think every caster has to be a walking encyclopedia to be effective. Imo, Jason did a great job and really improved from his first cast with Idra to today with Assem. He's just as entertaining as Tasteless, is quite articulate when he speaks and has the flow of the cast go smoothly. You can knock him for not being quite as knowledgeable as other casters, but that is why you pair him with someone like Idra and Assem.

Yeah, but it's obvious he doesn't even have knowledge of basic foundations of SC2. I don't need him to be an encyclopedia, I need him to know how high-ground advantage works, I need him to know important tech buildings to look out for, etc. Map-awareness is also really important as a caster too, which I wasn't impressed by from him at all. For instance, it was several minutes today before he even looked at the hidden starport in the final Ensnare match, he just mentioned "oh there's a starport in the bottom right of the map." Of coarse I was watching the low quality stream and couldn't see what he was talking about.


They are following the korean obs he has no control over going to the starport.

Really? Why would the he not have control over the camera like Tasteless?
DeMaze
Profile Joined July 2010
England69 Posts
October 22 2010 15:36 GMT
#349
Cringe while listening to those commentators. No mention of BC rushes until BC is half way to the enemy's base, "I think he's going to 2 gate rush" while the protoss has 3 in gas.. So many times I've heard them saying one player is playing great and then say the complete opposite when they realise how the battle was actually turning out.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 15:42:04
October 22 2010 15:41 GMT
#350
On October 23 2010 00:35 GP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 00:14 ragingfungus wrote:
On October 22 2010 23:59 GP wrote:
On October 22 2010 23:51 setzer wrote:
Some people here seem to think every caster has to be a walking encyclopedia to be effective. Imo, Jason did a great job and really improved from his first cast with Idra to today with Assem. He's just as entertaining as Tasteless, is quite articulate when he speaks and has the flow of the cast go smoothly. You can knock him for not being quite as knowledgeable as other casters, but that is why you pair him with someone like Idra and Assem.

Yeah, but it's obvious he doesn't even have knowledge of basic foundations of SC2. I don't need him to be an encyclopedia, I need him to know how high-ground advantage works, I need him to know important tech buildings to look out for, etc. Map-awareness is also really important as a caster too, which I wasn't impressed by from him at all. For instance, it was several minutes today before he even looked at the hidden starport in the final Ensnare match, he just mentioned "oh there's a starport in the bottom right of the map." Of coarse I was watching the low quality stream and couldn't see what he was talking about.


They are following the korean obs he has no control over going to the starport.

Really? Why would the he not have control over the camera like Tasteless?


Obviously because he doesnt know the game well enough and can't do that.
Following an obs is better anyway for the casting.
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
October 22 2010 15:42 GMT
#351
On October 23 2010 00:14 ragingfungus wrote:
They are following the korean obs he has no control over going to the starport.


We are seeing the Korean observer. Both the casters have their own screens and can look at whatever they please.
whatsgrackalackin420
GP
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1056 Posts
October 22 2010 15:45 GMT
#352
On October 23 2010 00:41 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 00:35 GP wrote:
On October 23 2010 00:14 ragingfungus wrote:
On October 22 2010 23:59 GP wrote:
On October 22 2010 23:51 setzer wrote:
Some people here seem to think every caster has to be a walking encyclopedia to be effective. Imo, Jason did a great job and really improved from his first cast with Idra to today with Assem. He's just as entertaining as Tasteless, is quite articulate when he speaks and has the flow of the cast go smoothly. You can knock him for not being quite as knowledgeable as other casters, but that is why you pair him with someone like Idra and Assem.

Yeah, but it's obvious he doesn't even have knowledge of basic foundations of SC2. I don't need him to be an encyclopedia, I need him to know how high-ground advantage works, I need him to know important tech buildings to look out for, etc. Map-awareness is also really important as a caster too, which I wasn't impressed by from him at all. For instance, it was several minutes today before he even looked at the hidden starport in the final Ensnare match, he just mentioned "oh there's a starport in the bottom right of the map." Of coarse I was watching the low quality stream and couldn't see what he was talking about.


They are following the korean obs he has no control over going to the starport.

Really? Why would the he not have control over the camera like Tasteless?


Obviously because he doesnt know the game well enough and can't do that.
Following an obs is better anyway for the casting.

Eh, explains a lot I guess.
Selkie
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States530 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 15:51:40
October 22 2010 15:49 GMT
#353
"Do you think that a barrak before a supply depo TvT is viable?"


About sums up my thoughts.


I mean, ok, learning the game, he can't give deep in depth analysis, but it's be nice if he'd actually.. played a game. People were going on in another threat about he did some research before on the players that tastetosis didn't, but some basic research into the game itself would be good.

He is learning fast. And thank goodness we'll get tastetosis back.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
October 22 2010 16:22 GMT
#354
Jason Lee did a great job. So did Assem, I'd love to see more from both in the future.
Seikhor
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada116 Posts
October 22 2010 16:31 GMT
#355
Jason Lee is getting better very, very fast. I really like his casting and hope to see him do more matches in the future.
damorphy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands78 Posts
October 22 2010 16:46 GMT
#356
Jason was great again today. His cocaster not so. Very bland, lack of personality kind of guy. Didn't bring anything to the table, unlike Idra. I even forgot his name O.o.
Oh it's ON !
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
October 22 2010 17:37 GMT
#357
They need to get TLO to commentate. Or is he at Blizzcon too?
Liquid FIGHTING!!!
Trentelshark
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada385 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 19:03:03
October 22 2010 19:02 GMT
#358
I think Jason is doing a great job. There's very few awkward silences, he nkows what words to emphasize and when it's appropriate and tbh knowing little about SC2 it makes the commentator's job more important and he is asking questions because he doesn't know not just to make conversation. This helps it sound less scripted when he asks about match-ups during the game, or prior to the game, etc.
Rflcrx
Profile Joined October 2010
503 Posts
October 22 2010 19:22 GMT
#359
Jason actually was fooled by haluzinated collossi today. Even worse, he didn't get it when the enemy got it..with full map vision/production tab/unit tab.

Good voice or no good voice: total lack of knowledge -> failcast.
alcaras
Profile Joined July 2010
United States67 Posts
October 22 2010 21:45 GMT
#360
Jason Lee is terrible -- and his voice is annoying, his enunciation is strange.
http://subcreation.net/ http://twitch.tv/alcaras/
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