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Stone
United Kingdom155 Posts
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Dudemeister
Sweden314 Posts
On November 01 2010 19:02 Stone[MB] wrote: would also be intrested in seeing a total mined option, to calculate the fastest way of getting total (x) mined minerals (including minerals spent and not-spent) by what time and calculating the quickest way to do this. i'm a little fuzzy on which build is the most economical in the long run, is it 13/14/15 or 16 hatch? is 13 hatch, 14 pool the most economical opening? That depends if you count larvae as a resource. I like the 10pool 18hatch for fast queen and lots of larvae. The program seems to favour 14 hatch 15 pool for economical long term builds. | ||
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icezar
Germany240 Posts
On November 01 2010 19:02 Stone[MB] wrote: would also be intrested in seeing a total mined option, to calculate the fastest way of getting total (x) mined minerals (including minerals spent and not-spent) by what time and calculating the quickest way to do this. i'm a little fuzzy on which build is the most economical in the long run, is it 13/14/15 or 16 hatch? is 13 hatch, 14 pool the most economical opening? If you consider only minerals: 9 Overlord 15 Hatchery 16 spawning Pool 16 Overlord 19 queen 23 queen 25 Overlord but if you need also gas kind of early it depends how much do you value gas over minerals. The other builds are also pretty close to this, so if you prefer a faster pool you do lose only a few minerals. | ||
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Kagami-sama
460 Posts
On November 01 2010 19:06 Dudemeister wrote: That depends if you count larvae as a resource. I like the 10pool 18hatch for fast queen and lots of larvae. The program seems to favour 14 hatch 15 pool for economical long term builds. 9/10/11-pooling can actually allow you to get 2 Queens out of one Hatchery (and also a Creep Tumor) right before the second Hatchery finishes. | ||
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ChickenLips
2912 Posts
On November 01 2010 20:20 icezar wrote: If you consider only minerals: 9 Overlord 15 Hatchery 16 spawning Pool 16 Overlord 19 queen 23 queen 25 Overlord but if you need also gas kind of early it depends how much do you value gas over minerals. The other builds are also pretty close to this, so if you prefer a faster pool you do lose only a few minerals. How did you get this information? And how close are the builds (what builds specifically?) to it? | ||
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icezar
Germany240 Posts
On November 02 2010 01:25 ChickenLips wrote: How did you get this information? And how close are the builds (what builds specifically?) to it? i run EC for quite some time for the fastest way to get 32 drones on 2 base. That was the final build, but i also sow some other builds that where not so far. Some of the builds i testes myself to see the minereals mined. I also used http://haploid.nl/sc2/build_order/ to try and tweak a few of them. But this is pure theorycraft with no value to the game, i think. | ||
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TyPsi5
United States204 Posts
You've made headlines | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + @0:36 M:200 G:0 L:3 S:6/10 BuildSpawningPool @1:41 Spawned: Spawning Pool+1 @1:41 M:237 G:0 L:3 S:5/10 BuildExtractor @1:41 M:212 G:0 L:3 S:4/10 BuildRoachWarren @2:11 Spawned: Extractor+1 @2:11 M:130 G:0 L:3 S:3/10 MineGas @2:11 M:130 G:0 L:3 S:3/10 MineGas @2:11 M:130 G:0 L:3 S:3/10 MineGas @2:11 M:130 G:0 L:3 S:3/10 BuildExtractor @2:13 Mining: +1 on gas @2:13 Mining: +1 on gas @2:13 Mining: +1 on gas @2:36 Spawned: Roach Warren+1 @2:36 M:105 G:45 L:3 S:2/10 BuildRoach @2:41 Spawned: Extractor+1 @2:41 M:30 G:30 L:2 S:4/10 MineGas @2:41 M:30 G:30 L:2 S:4/10 MineGas @2:41 M:30 G:30 L:2 S:4/10 MineGas @2:43 Mining: +1 on gas @2:43 Mining: +1 on gas @2:43 Mining: +1 on gas @2:51 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:03 Spawned: Roach+1 it only needs one drone on the 5 extractor gas for the roach, so the gas must score higher, which is fine, but, there are 2 drones of supply but 6 on gas here, what? | ||
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blackodd
Sweden451 Posts
 http://lbrandy.com/blog/2010/11/using-genetic-algorithms-to-find-starcraft-2-build-orders/ | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
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FaZ-
United States188 Posts
If not, I might just have to switch to Zerg. =D | ||
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blackodd
Sweden451 Posts
On November 02 2010 19:11 Cyber_Cheese wrote: thats the same one, its the source for the summary of the other I see, sorry! | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19210 Posts
On November 02 2010 15:48 TyPsi5 wrote: http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/11/02/0211249/Developing-StarCraft-2-Build-Orders-With-Genetic-Algorithms You've made headlines Would have been better if it linked to this thread instead of the blog place though. | ||
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tetracycloide
295 Posts
On October 31 2010 12:44 Insanious wrote: So tell me please, in what situation in a game, will you ever be at 3 hatch only lings, no speed? Just Wondering... There is not a point in a game where you will get to 44 food(40 drones + 2 queens) in drones and get no gas (so no teching, only lings, no speed, no upgs... ya...) Now say you get to 44 drones (full gas, full 16 on mins each) Now what? Well at 48 food (44 drones + 2 queens) in economy I'm hoping you have a bit of an army, and are thinking of taking a 3rd anyway... Really, the way that I described for whether to take an expo or build in base makes sence for an in game perspective... Take another base if: 1) Need more gas 2) Need more mins Make in base if: 1) Just need more larva Just like in a real game and as such... you will take an expo when you are at 44 drones, below that you still make in base, and continue like this for a while... You're missing the point. The build order optimizer doesn't let you take an in base hatch if you just need more larva. It assumes the hatch is at an expo every time. The difference is that it doesn't have to go take a real second or third later, it doesn't factor in the cost of another hatch to expand gas or mineral collection the way you would have to in game. | ||
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NETRAT
Belarus180 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + 10 ExtractorTrick M:80 G:0 11 SpawningPool M:203 G:0 10 Overlord M:102 G:0 14 Hatchery M:305 G:0 14 SpawningPool M:208 G:0 14 Queen M:152 G:0 17 SpawningPool M:210 G:0 16 SpawningPool M:208 G:0 15 Overlord M:101 G:0 16 Overlord M:108 G:0 18 Queen M:152 G:0 21 Queen M:152 G:0 27 Overlord M:111 G:0 30 Hatchery M:309 G:0 31 Overlord M:107 G:0 31 Queen M:155 G:0 36 Overlord M:103 G:0 36 Queen M:165 G:0 42 Overlord M:108 G:0 42 Overlord M:107 G:0 44 Overlord M:121 G:0 44 Hatchery M:313 G:0 44 Queen M:166 G:0 49 Queen M:171 G:0 51 Overlord M:118 G:0 51 Queen M:167 G:0 53 Overlord M:122 G:0 58 Overlord M:116 G:0 58 Overlord M:122 G:0 59 Overlord M:106 G:0 60 Overlord M:128 G:0 61 Overlord M:127 G:0 66 Overlord M:109 G:0 66 Overlord M:102 G:0 67 Overlord M:111 G:0 80 Hatchery M:321 G:0 I assume that in this simulator mineral per second rates are 0.67 (according to listings), but this is not quite accurate. As far as I know, rates are 0.75 for less than 3 workers mining from patch and 0.67 for roughly 3 workers mining from patch. Also, depending on map expansions can have different patches count (blizzard maps 8 patches, ICCup maps 9 patches?) Extractor trick at 18 supply seems wierd ... Can we hope to get this simulator work for terran and protoss? I guess it's easier for other races because they don't have larvae and queens, though they have chronoboost and mules) | ||
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DFarce
55 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + WP0 7 roaches before 5min WP1 before 18min 48 drones 2 overseers 20 lings 12 mutas 3 queens 2 hatch 1 lair 4 extractors meta boost glial reconstitution and a partridge in a pear tree The program seems to think that 2 spires is a good idea, and seems to think that getting 4 queens on 3 hatches is a good idea. I am not sure whether I am misinterpreting the results or whether this is a bug. The resulting orders are below Simple order + Show Spoiler + 10 Overlord M:106 G:0 10 SpawningPool M:204 G:0 14 Extractor M:31 G:0 15 Queen M:158 G:0 18 RoachWarren M:152 G:45 18 Overlord M:110 G:81 18 Overlord M:145 G:110 19 Roach M:272 G:167 21 Roach M:262 G:155 23 Roach M:187 G:130 25 Roach M:112 G:105 27 Roach M:75 G:88 29 Roach M:79 G:78 31 Roach M:113 G:74 33 Overlord M:187 G:77 33 Overlord M:156 G  134 Lair M:155 G:119 34 Zergling M:56 G:29 38 Hatchery M:304 G:106 39 Overlord M:109 G:141 39 Overlord M:101 G:156 43 Zergling M:61 G:198 48 Hatchery M:308 G:270 47 Overlord M:103 G:283 50 GlialReconstitution M:101 G:312 53 Overlord M:117 G:238 53 Spire M:200 G:255 53 Overlord M:116 G:71 53 Spire M:1540 G:200 52 Extractor M:1340 G:0 51 Extractor M:1315 G:0 50 Extractor M:1290 G:0 49 Extractor M:1265 G:0 48 Overseer M:1847 G:102 48 Overlord M:1797 G:2 49 MetabolicBoost M:1811 G:145 49 Zergling M:1711 G:45 54 Zergling M:1461 G:45 55 Mutalisk M:1477 G:102 57 Queen M:1377 G:2 59 Overlord M:1227 G:2 63 Extractor M 27 G:262 Mutalisk M:1015 G:106 70 Zergling M:804 G:130 71 Mutalisk M:754 G:130 73 Overlord M:875 G:169 73 Mutalisk M:775 G:169 75 Overlord M:675 G:69 77 Mutalisk M:527 G:103 79 Mutalisk M:591 G:105 81 Zergling M:582 G:62 82 Queen M:532 G:62 84 Mutalisk M:458 G:108 86 Mutalisk M:537 G:111 88 Zergling M:476 G:33 89 Mutalisk M:545 G:102 91 Overlord M:445 G:2 91 Overlord M:484 G:82 91 Zergling M:384 G:82 92 Overlord M:334 G:82 93 Mutalisk M:223 G:104 97 Mutalisk M:241 G:130 99 Zergling M:141 G:30 100 Mutalisk M:231 G:110 102 Overseer M:307 G:101 102 Zergling M:257 G:1 103 Zergling M:207 G:1 104 Zergling M:157 G:1 105 Zergling M:107 G:1 106 Zergling M:146 G:46 107 Zergling M 6 G:46108 Zergling M:68 G:58 109 Zergling M:282 G:195 Detailed result + Show Spoiler + @0:00 M:50 G:0 L:3 S:6/10 BuildDrone @0:13 M:51 G:0 L:2 S:7/10 BuildDrone @0:15 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:17 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:24 M:52 G:0 L:2 S:8/10 BuildDrone @0:30 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:30 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:34 M:54 G:0 L:2 S /10 BuildDrone@0:41 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:45 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:51 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:51 M:106 G:0 L:2 S:10/10 BuildOverlord @1:00 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:15 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:16 Spawned: Overlord+1 @1:19 M:204 G:0 L:3 S:10/18 BuildSpawningPool @1:27 M:55 G:0 L:3 S /18 BuildDrone@1:35 M:55 G:0 L:2 S:10/18 BuildDrone @1:42 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:42 M:50 G:0 L:2 S:11/18 BuildDrone @1:44 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:50 M:54 G:0 L:1 S:12/18 BuildDrone @1:52 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:57 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:57 M:57 G:0 L:1 S:13/18 BuildDrone @1:59 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:00 M:31 G:0 L:0 S:14/18 BuildExtractor @2:07 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:12 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:12 M:103 G:0 L:1 S:13/18 BuildDrone @2:14 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:24 Spawned: Spawning Pool+1 @2:27 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:27 M:190 G:0 L:1 S:14/18 BuildDrone @2:29 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:29 M:158 G:0 L:0 S:15/18 BuildQueen @2:30 Spawned: Extractor+1 @2:42 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:42 M:109 G:24 L:1 S:17/18 BuildDrone @2:44 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:53 M:152 G:45 L:0 S:18/18 BuildRoachWarren @2:57 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:59 Spawned: Drone+1 @3:00 M:57 G:58 L:1 S:17/18 BuildDrone @3:12 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:12 M:110 G:81 L:1 S:18/18 BuildOverlord @3:17 Spawned: Drone+1 @3:19 Spawned: Queen+1 @3:27 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:27 M:145 G:110 L:1 S:18/18 BuildOverlord @3:37 Spawned: Overlord+1 @3:42 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:42 M:183 G:138 L:1 S:18/26 BuildDrone @3:48 Spawned: Roach Warren+1 @3:52 Spawned: Overlord+1 @3:57 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:57 M:272 G:167 L:1 S:19/34 BuildRoach @3:59 Spawned: Drone+1 @4:04 Spawned: Larva+4 @4:04 M:265 G:155 L:4 S:21/34 BuildRoach @4:04 M:190 G:130 L:3 S:23/34 BuildRoach @4:04 M:115 G:105 L:2 S:25/34 BuildRoach @4:08 M:79 G:88 L:1 S:27/34 BuildRoach @4:12 Spawned: Larva+1 @4:16 M:83 G:78 L:1 S:29/34 BuildRoach @4:24 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:27 Spawned: Larva+1 @4:27 M:117 G:74 L:1 S:31/34 BuildRoach @4:31 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:31 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:31 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:35 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:42 Spawned: Larva+1 @4:42 M:191 G:77 L:1 S:33/34 BuildOverlord @4:43 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:49 Spawned: Larva+4 @4:49 M:160 G 1 L:4 S:33/34 BuildOverlord@4:49 M:60 G 1 L:3 S:33/34 BuildDrone@4:54 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:57 Spawned: Larva+1 ---Waypoint 0--- At time: 5:00 Minerals: 119 Gas: 111 Supply: 34/34 Drones: 17 Overlords: 4 Queens: 1 Roaches: 7 Hatcheries: 1 Gas Extractors: 1 Spawning Pools: 1 Roach Warrens: 1 ---------------- @5:04 M:159 G:119 L:3 S:34/34 BuildLair @5:06 Spawned: Drone+1 @5:07 Spawned: Overlord+1 @5:09 M:59 G:29 L:3 S:34/42 BuildDrone @5:13 M:52 G:36 L:2 S:35/42 BuildDrone @5:14 Spawned: Overlord+1 @5:18 M:54 G:46 L:1 S:36/50 BuildDrone @5:24 Spawned: Larva+1 @5:26 Spawned: Drone+1 @5:30 Spawned: Drone+1 @5:34 Spawned: Larva+4 @5:35 Spawned: Drone+1 @5:39 Spawned: Larva+1 @5:45 M:306 G 7 L:5 S:37/50 BuildHatchery@5:49 M:51 G:105 L:5 S:36/50 BuildDrone @5:54 M:58 G:114 L:4 S:37/50 BuildDrone @6:03 M:111 G:131 L:3 S:38/50 BuildOverlord @6:04 Spawned: Larva+1 @6:06 Spawned: Drone+1 @6:11 Spawned: Drone+1 @6:11 M:103 G:146 L:3 S:38/50 BuildOverlord @6:15 M:50 G:154 L:2 S:38/50 BuildDrone @6:19 Spawned: Larva+4 @6:20 M:59 G:163 L:5 S:39/50 BuildDrone @6:24 Spawned: Lairs+1 @6:24 M:56 G:171 L:4 S:40/50 BuildDrone @6:26 Spawned: Larva+1 @6:28 Spawned: Overlord+1 @6:28 M:53 G:179 L:3 S:41/58 BuildDrone @6:32 Spawned: Drone+1 @6:32 M:50 G:186 L:2 S:42/58 BuildDrone @6:36 Spawned: Overlord+1 @6:37 Spawned: Drone+1 @6:37 M:60 G:196 L:1 S:43/66 BuildZergling @6:41 Spawned: Drone+1 @6:43 Spawned: Larva+1 @6:43 M:85 G:207 L:1 S:44/66 BuildDrone @6:45 Spawned: Drone+1 @6:49 Spawned: Drone+1 @6:58 Spawned: Larva+1 @6:58 M:235 G:236 L:1 S:45/66 BuildDrone @7:00 Spawned: Drone+1 @7:01 Spawned: Zergling+2 @7:04 Spawned: Larva+4 @7:04 M:266 G:247 L:4 S:46/66 BuildDrone @7:04 M:216 G:247 L:3 S:47/66 BuildDrone @7:13 Spawned: Larva+1 @7:14 M:302 G:266 L:3 S:48/66 BuildHatchery @7:15 Spawned: Drone+1 @7:18 M:57 G:274 L:3 S:47/66 BuildDrone @7:21 Spawned: Drone+1 @7:21 Spawned: Drone+1 @7:25 Spawned: Hatchery+1 @7:25 M:107 G:287 L:2 S:48/68 BuildOverlord @7:28 M:65 G:293 L:1 S:48/68 BuildDrone @7:33 Spawned: Larva+1 @7:33 M:110 G:302 L:2 S:49/68 BuildDrone @7:33 M:60 G:302 L:1 S:50/68 BuildDrone @7:35 Spawned: Drone+1 @7:38 M:108 G:312 L:0 S:51/68 Glial Reconstitution @7:45 Spawned: Drone+1 @7:48 Spawned: Larva+1 @7:48 M:207 G:231 L:2 S:51/68 BuildDrone @7:48 M:157 G:231 L:1 S:52/68 BuildDrone @7:49 Spawned: Larva+4 @7:49 M:127 G:233 L:4 S:53/68 BuildDrone @7:50 Spawned: Overlord+1 @7:50 Spawned: Drone+1 @7:50 Spawned: Drone+1 @7:51 M:118 G:236 L:3 S:54/76 BuildOverlord @8:00 M:214 G:253 L:2 S:54/76 BuildSpire @8:02 M:56 G:57 L:2 S:53/76 BuildDrone @8:03 Spawned: Larva+1 @8:05 Spawned: Drone+1 @8:05 Spawned: Drone+1 @8:06 Spawned: Drone+1 @8:16 Spawned: Overlord+1 @8:18 Spawned: Larva+1 @8:19 Spawned: Drone+1 @8:33 Spawned: Larva+1 @8:34 Spawned: Larva+4 @8:54 Spawned: Hatchery+1 @9:17 M:1742 G:200 L:10 S:54/86 BuildSpire @9:17 M:1542 G:0 L:10 S:53/86 BuildExtractor @9:17 M:1517 G:0 L:10 S:52/86 BuildExtractor @9:17 M:1492 G:0 L:10 S:51/86 BuildExtractor @9:17 M:1467 G:0 L:10 S:50/86 BuildExtractor @9:17 M:1442 G:0 L:10 S:49/86 BuildExtractor @9:19 Spawned: Larva+4 @9:28 Evolved: Glial Reconstitution @9:40 Spawned: Spire+1 @9:47 Spawned: Extractor+1 @9:47 Spawned: Extractor+1 @9:47 Spawned: Extractor+1 @9:47 Spawned: Extractor+1 @9:47 Spawned: Extractor+1 @9:50 M:2030 G:100 L:14 S:48/86 BuildOverseer @9:50 M:1980 G:0 L:14 S:48/78 BuildOverlord @10:04 Spawned: Larva+4 @10:05 Spawned: Larva+1 @10:05 M:2025 G:171 L:17 S:48/78 BuildDrone @10:05 M:1975 G:171 L:16 S:49/78 Metabolic Boost @10:05 M:1875 G:71 L:16 S:49/78 BuildDrone @10:05 M:1825 G:71 L:15 S:50/78 BuildDrone @10:05 M:1775 G:71 L:14 S:51/78 BuildDrone @10:05 M:1725 G:71 L:13 S:52/78 BuildDrone @10:05 M:1675 G:71 L:12 S:53/78 BuildDrone @10:05 M:1625 G:71 L:11 S:54/78 BuildZergling @10:07 Spawned: Overseer+1 @10:08 M:1604 G:106 L:10 S:55/86 BuildMutalisk @10:08 M:1504 G:6 L S:57/86 BuildQueen@10:08 M:1354 G:6 L S:59/86 BuildOverlord@10:08 M:1254 G:6 L:8 S:59/86 BuildDrone @10:08 M:1204 G:6 L:7 S:60/86 BuildDrone @10:08 M:1154 G:6 L:6 S:61/86 BuildDrone @10:08 M:1104 G:6 L:5 S:62/86 BuildDrone @10:15 Spawned: Overlord+1 @10:17 M:1141 G:108 L:4 S:63/94 BuildMutalisk @10:17 M:1041 G:8 L:3 S:65/94 BuildDrone @10:17 M 91 G:8 L:2 S:66/94 BuildDrone@10:17 M 41 G:8 L:1 S:67/94 BuildDrone@10:20 Spawned: Larva+1 @10:20 M 20 G:42 L:3 S:68/94 BuildDrone@10:20 M:870 G:42 L:2 S:69/94 BuildDrone @10:20 M:820 G:42 L:1 S:70/94 BuildDrone @10:22 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:22 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:22 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:22 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:22 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:22 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:25 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:25 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:25 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:25 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:29 Spawned: Zergling+2 @10:33 Spawned: Overlord+1 @10:34 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:34 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:34 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:35 Spawned: Larva+1 @10:35 M 85 G:213 L:3 S:71/102 BuildMutalisk@10:35 M:885 G:113 L:2 S:73/102 BuildOverlord @10:35 M:785 G:113 L:1 S:73/102 BuildMutalisk @10:37 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:37 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:37 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:41 Spawned: Mutalisk+1 @10:49 Spawned: Larva+4 @10:49 M 65 G:173 L:4 S:75/102 BuildOverlord@10:49 M:865 G:173 L:3 S:75/102 BuildDrone @10:50 Spawned: Mutalisk+1 @10:50 Spawned: Larva+1 @10:50 M:836 G:184 L:5 S:76/102 BuildMutalisk @10:52 M:777 G:107 L:4 S:78/102 BuildMutalisk @10:52 M:677 G:7 L:3 S:80/102 BuildZergling @10:52 M:627 G:7 L:2 S:81/102 BuildQueen @10:52 M:477 G:7 L:2 S:83/102 BuildQueen @10:57 Spawned: Spire+1 @10:58 Spawned: Queen+1 @11:00 Spawned: Overlord+1 @11:01 M:512 G:110 L:2 S:85/110 BuildMutalisk @11:05 Spawned: Larva+1 @11:06 Spawned: Drone+1 @11:08 Spawned: Mutalisk+1 @11:08 Spawned: Mutalisk+1 @11:09 M:578 G:101 L:4 S:87/110 BuildMutalisk @11:09 M:478 G:1 L:3 S:89/110 BuildZergling @11:14 Spawned: Overlord+1 @11:16 Spawned: Zergling+2 @11:18 M:620 G:104 L:2 S 0/118 BuildMutalisk@11:18 M:520 G:4 L:1 S 2/118 BuildOverlord@11:20 Spawned: Larva+1 @11:20 M:462 G:26 L:3 S 2/118 BuildOverlord@11:20 M:362 G:26 L:2 S 2/118 BuildZergling@11:20 M:312 G:26 L:1 S 3/118 BuildOverlord@11:23 Spawned: Mutalisk+1 @11:25 Spawned: Mutalisk+1 @11:33 Spawned: Zergling+2 @11:34 Spawned: Larva+4 @11:34 Spawned: Mutalisk+1 @11:34 M:510 G:186 L:4 S 3/118 BuildMutalisk@11:34 M:410 G:86 L:3 S 5/118 BuildDrone@11:35 Spawned: Larva+1 @11:36 M:403 G:109 L:5 S 6/118 BuildMutalisk@11:36 M:303 G L:4 S8/118 BuildZergling@11:42 Spawned: Queen+1 @11:42 Spawned: Queen+1 @11:42 Spawned: Mutalisk+1 @11:43 Spawned: Larva+4 @11:43 Spawned: Overlord+1 @11:44 Spawned: Zergling+2 @11:44 M:423 G:100 L:7 S 9/126 BuildMutalisk@11:45 Spawned: Overlord+1 @11:45 Spawned: Overlord+1 @11:50 Spawned: Larva+1 @11:51 Spawned: Mutalisk+1 @11:51 Spawned: Drone+1 @11:53 M:516 G:103 L S:101/142 BuildOverseer@11:53 M:466 G:3 L S:101/134 BuildZergling@11:53 M:416 G:3 L:8 S:102/134 BuildZergling @11:53 M:366 G:3 L:7 S:103/134 BuildZergling @11:53 M:316 G:3 L:6 S:104/134 BuildZergling @11:53 M:266 G:3 L:5 S:105/134 BuildZergling @11:53 M:216 G:3 L:4 S:106/134 BuildZergling @11:53 M:166 G:3 L:3 S:107/134 BuildZergling @11:53 M:116 G:3 L:2 S:108/134 BuildZergling @11:55 Evolved: Metabolic Boost @12:00 Spawned: Zergling+2 @12:07 Spawned: Mutalisk+1 @12:08 Spawned: Larva+1 @12:09 Spawned: Mutalisk+1 @12:10 Spawned: Overseer+1 @12:17 Spawned: Mutalisk+1 @12:17 Spawned: Zergling+2 @12:17 Spawned: Zergling+2 @12:17 Spawned: Zergling+2 @12:17 Spawned: Zergling+2 @12:17 Spawned: Zergling+2 @12:17 Spawned: Zergling+2 @12:17 Spawned: Zergling+2 @12:17 Spawned: Zergling+2 Satisfied. Number of actions in build order: 143 ---Final Output--- At time: 12:17 Minerals: 595 Gas: 276 Supply: 109/142 Drones: 49 Overlords: 15 Overseers: 2 Queens: 4 Zerglings: 28 Roaches: 7 Mutalisks: 12 Hatcheries: 2 Lairs: 1 Gas Extractors: 6 Spawning Pools: 1 Roach Warrens: 1 Spire: 2 Metabolic Boost Glial Reconstitution ------------------ Tue Nov 02 11:06:55 EDT 2010: 610649.8058592905 | ||
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some_pro
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Jaal
United States61 Posts
On November 03 2010 00:12 DFarce wrote: Although this is truly fantastic, you should make it so that it will not build multiple buildings of the same type. I am trying to see what it will give me for a muta-roach-ling build with inputs as: + Show Spoiler + WP0 7 roaches before 5min WP1 before 18min 48 drones 2 overseers 20 lings 12 mutas 3 queens 2 hatch 1 lair 4 extractors meta boost glial reconstitution and a partridge in a pear tree The program seems to think that 2 spires is a good idea, and seems to think that getting 4 queens on 3 hatches is a good idea. I am not sure whether I am misinterpreting the results or whether this is a bug. The resulting orders are below Simple order + Show Spoiler + 10 Overlord M:106 G:0 10 SpawningPool M:204 G:0 14 Extractor M:31 G:0 15 Queen M:158 G:0 18 RoachWarren M:152 G:45 18 Overlord M:110 G:81 18 Overlord M:145 G:110 19 Roach M:272 G:167 21 Roach M:262 G:155 23 Roach M:187 G:130 25 Roach M:112 G:105 27 Roach M:75 G:88 29 Roach M:79 G:78 31 Roach M:113 G:74 33 Overlord M:187 G:77 33 Overlord M:156 G 134 Lair M:155 G:119 34 Zergling M:56 G:29 38 Hatchery M:304 G:106 39 Overlord M:109 G:141 39 Overlord M:101 G:156 43 Zergling M:61 G:198 48 Hatchery M:308 G:270 47 Overlord M:103 G:283 50 GlialReconstitution M:101 G:312 53 Overlord M:117 G:238 53 Spire M:200 G:255 53 Overlord M:116 G:71 53 Spire M:1540 G:200 52 Extractor M:1340 G:0 51 Extractor M:1315 G:0 50 Extractor M:1290 G:0 49 Extractor M:1265 G:0 48 Overseer M:1847 G:102 48 Overlord M:1797 G:2 49 MetabolicBoost M:1811 G:145 49 Zergling M:1711 G:45 54 Zergling M:1461 G:45 55 Mutalisk M:1477 G:102 57 Queen M:1377 G:2 59 Overlord M:1227 G:2 63 Extractor M 27 G:262 Mutalisk M:1015 G:106 70 Zergling M:804 G:130 71 Mutalisk M:754 G:130 73 Overlord M:875 G:169 73 Mutalisk M:775 G:169 75 Overlord M:675 G:69 77 Mutalisk M:527 G:103 79 Mutalisk M:591 G:105 81 Zergling M:582 G:62 82 Queen M:532 G:62 84 Mutalisk M:458 G:108 86 Mutalisk M:537 G:111 88 Zergling M:476 G:33 89 Mutalisk M:545 G:102 91 Overlord M:445 G:2 91 Overlord M:484 G:82 91 Zergling M:384 G:82 92 Overlord M:334 G:82 93 Mutalisk M:223 G:104 97 Mutalisk M:241 G:130 99 Zergling M:141 G:30 100 Mutalisk M:231 G:110 102 Overseer M:307 G:101 102 Zergling M:257 G:1 103 Zergling M:207 G:1 104 Zergling M:157 G:1 105 Zergling M:107 G:1 106 Zergling M:146 G:46 107 Zergling M 6 G:46108 Zergling M:68 G:58 109 Zergling M:282 G:195 Detailed result + Show Spoiler + @0:00 M:50 G:0 L:3 S:6/10 BuildDrone @0:13 M:51 G:0 L:2 S:7/10 BuildDrone @0:15 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:17 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:24 M:52 G:0 L:2 S:8/10 BuildDrone @0:30 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:30 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:34 M:54 G:0 L:2 S /10 BuildDrone@0:41 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:45 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:51 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:51 M:106 G:0 L:2 S:10/10 BuildOverlord @1:00 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:15 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:16 Spawned: Overlord+1 @1:19 M:204 G:0 L:3 S:10/18 BuildSpawningPool @1:27 M:55 G:0 L:3 S /18 BuildDrone@1:35 M:55 G:0 L:2 S:10/18 BuildDrone @1:42 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:42 M:50 G:0 L:2 S:11/18 BuildDrone @1:44 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:50 M:54 G:0 L:1 S:12/18 BuildDrone @1:52 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:57 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:57 M:57 G:0 L:1 S:13/18 BuildDrone @1:59 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:00 M:31 G:0 L:0 S:14/18 BuildExtractor @2:07 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:12 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:12 M:103 G:0 L:1 S:13/18 BuildDrone @2:14 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:24 Spawned: Spawning Pool+1 @2:27 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:27 M:190 G:0 L:1 S:14/18 BuildDrone @2:29 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:29 M:158 G:0 L:0 S:15/18 BuildQueen @2:30 Spawned: Extractor+1 @2:42 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:42 M:109 G:24 L:1 S:17/18 BuildDrone @2:44 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:53 M:152 G:45 L:0 S:18/18 BuildRoachWarren @2:57 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:59 Spawned: Drone+1 @3:00 M:57 G:58 L:1 S:17/18 BuildDrone @3:12 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:12 M:110 G:81 L:1 S:18/18 BuildOverlord @3:17 Spawned: Drone+1 @3:19 Spawned: Queen+1 @3:27 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:27 M:145 G:110 L:1 S:18/18 BuildOverlord @3:37 Spawned: Overlord+1 @3:42 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:42 M:183 G:138 L:1 S:18/26 BuildDrone @3:48 Spawned: Roach Warren+1 @3:52 Spawned: Overlord+1 @3:57 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:57 M:272 G:167 L:1 S:19/34 BuildRoach @3:59 Spawned: Drone+1 @4:04 Spawned: Larva+4 @4:04 M:265 G:155 L:4 S:21/34 BuildRoach @4:04 M:190 G:130 L:3 S:23/34 BuildRoach @4:04 M:115 G:105 L:2 S:25/34 BuildRoach @4:08 M:79 G:88 L:1 S:27/34 BuildRoach @4:12 Spawned: Larva+1 @4:16 M:83 G:78 L:1 S:29/34 BuildRoach @4:24 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:27 Spawned: Larva+1 @4:27 M:117 G:74 L:1 S:31/34 BuildRoach @4:31 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:31 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:31 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:35 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:42 Spawned: Larva+1 @4:42 M:191 G:77 L:1 S:33/34 BuildOverlord @4:43 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:49 Spawned: Larva+4 @4:49 M:160 G 1 L:4 S:33/34 BuildOverlord@4:49 M:60 G 1 L:3 S:33/34 BuildDrone@4:54 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:57 Spawned: Larva+1 ---Waypoint 0--- At time: 5:00 Minerals: 119 Gas: 111 Supply: 34/34 Drones: 17 Overlords: 4 Queens: 1 Roaches: 7 Hatcheries: 1 Gas Extractors: 1 Spawning Pools: 1 Roach Warrens: 1 ---------------- @5:04 M:159 G:119 L:3 S:34/34 BuildLair @5:06 Spawned: Drone+1 @5:07 Spawned: Overlord+1 @5:09 M:59 G:29 L:3 S:34/42 BuildDrone @5:13 M:52 G:36 L:2 S:35/42 BuildDrone @5:14 Spawned: Overlord+1 @5:18 M:54 G:46 L:1 S:36/50 BuildDrone @5:24 Spawned: Larva+1 @5:26 Spawned: Drone+1 @5:30 Spawned: Drone+1 @5:34 Spawned: Larva+4 @5:35 Spawned: Drone+1 @5:39 Spawned: Larva+1 @5:45 M:306 G 7 L:5 S:37/50 BuildHatchery@5:49 M:51 G:105 L:5 S:36/50 BuildDrone @5:54 M:58 G:114 L:4 S:37/50 BuildDrone @6:03 M:111 G:131 L:3 S:38/50 BuildOverlord @6:04 Spawned: Larva+1 @6:06 Spawned: Drone+1 @6:11 Spawned: Drone+1 @6:11 M:103 G:146 L:3 S:38/50 BuildOverlord @6:15 M:50 G:154 L:2 S:38/50 BuildDrone @6:19 Spawned: Larva+4 @6:20 M:59 G:163 L:5 S:39/50 BuildDrone @6:24 Spawned: Lairs+1 @6:24 M:56 G:171 L:4 S:40/50 BuildDrone @6:26 Spawned: Larva+1 @6:28 Spawned: Overlord+1 @6:28 M:53 G:179 L:3 S:41/58 BuildDrone @6:32 Spawned: Drone+1 @6:32 M:50 G:186 L:2 S:42/58 BuildDrone @6:36 Spawned: Overlord+1 @6:37 Spawned: Drone+1 @6:37 M:60 G:196 L:1 S:43/66 BuildZergling @6:41 Spawned: Drone+1 @6:43 Spawned: Larva+1 @6:43 M:85 G:207 L:1 S:44/66 BuildDrone @6:45 Spawned: Drone+1 @6:49 Spawned: Drone+1 @6:58 Spawned: Larva+1 @6:58 M:235 G:236 L:1 S:45/66 BuildDrone @7:00 Spawned: Drone+1 @7:01 Spawned: Zergling+2 @7:04 Spawned: Larva+4 @7:04 M:266 G:247 L:4 S:46/66 BuildDrone @7:04 M:216 G:247 L:3 S:47/66 BuildDrone @7:13 Spawned: Larva+1 @7:14 M:302 G:266 L:3 S:48/66 BuildHatchery @7:15 Spawned: Drone+1 @7:18 M:57 G:274 L:3 S:47/66 BuildDrone @7:21 Spawned: Drone+1 @7:21 Spawned: Drone+1 @7:25 Spawned: Hatchery+1 @7:25 M:107 G:287 L:2 S:48/68 BuildOverlord @7:28 M:65 G:293 L:1 S:48/68 BuildDrone @7:33 Spawned: Larva+1 @7:33 M:110 G:302 L:2 S:49/68 BuildDrone @7:33 M:60 G:302 L:1 S:50/68 BuildDrone @7:35 Spawned: Drone+1 @7:38 M:108 G:312 L:0 S:51/68 Glial Reconstitution @7:45 Spawned: Drone+1 @7:48 Spawned: Larva+1 @7:48 M:207 G:231 L:2 S:51/68 BuildDrone @7:48 M:157 G:231 L:1 S:52/68 BuildDrone @7:49 Spawned: Larva+4 @7:49 M:127 G:233 L:4 S:53/68 BuildDrone @7:50 Spawned: Overlord+1 @7:50 Spawned: Drone+1 @7:50 Spawned: Drone+1 @7:51 M:118 G:236 L:3 S:54/76 BuildOverlord @8:00 M:214 G:253 L:2 S:54/76 BuildSpire @8:02 M:56 G:57 L:2 S:53/76 BuildDrone @8:03 Spawned: Larva+1 @8:05 Spawned: Drone+1 @8:05 Spawned: Drone+1 @8:06 Spawned: Drone+1 @8:16 Spawned: Overlord+1 @8:18 Spawned: Larva+1 @8:19 Spawned: Drone+1 @8:33 Spawned: Larva+1 @8:34 Spawned: Larva+4 @8:54 Spawned: Hatchery+1 @9:17 M:1742 G:200 L:10 S:54/86 BuildSpire @9:17 M:1542 G:0 L:10 S:53/86 BuildExtractor @9:17 M:1517 G:0 L:10 S:52/86 BuildExtractor @9:17 M:1492 G:0 L:10 S:51/86 BuildExtractor @9:17 M:1467 G:0 L:10 S:50/86 BuildExtractor @9:17 M:1442 G:0 L:10 S:49/86 BuildExtractor @9:19 Spawned: Larva+4 @9:28 Evolved: Glial Reconstitution @9:40 Spawned: Spire+1 @9:47 Spawned: Extractor+1 @9:47 Spawned: Extractor+1 @9:47 Spawned: Extractor+1 @9:47 Spawned: Extractor+1 @9:47 Spawned: Extractor+1 @9:50 M:2030 G:100 L:14 S:48/86 BuildOverseer @9:50 M:1980 G:0 L:14 S:48/78 BuildOverlord @10:04 Spawned: Larva+4 @10:05 Spawned: Larva+1 @10:05 M:2025 G:171 L:17 S:48/78 BuildDrone @10:05 M:1975 G:171 L:16 S:49/78 Metabolic Boost @10:05 M:1875 G:71 L:16 S:49/78 BuildDrone @10:05 M:1825 G:71 L:15 S:50/78 BuildDrone @10:05 M:1775 G:71 L:14 S:51/78 BuildDrone @10:05 M:1725 G:71 L:13 S:52/78 BuildDrone @10:05 M:1675 G:71 L:12 S:53/78 BuildDrone @10:05 M:1625 G:71 L:11 S:54/78 BuildZergling @10:07 Spawned: Overseer+1 @10:08 M:1604 G:106 L:10 S:55/86 BuildMutalisk @10:08 M:1504 G:6 L S:57/86 BuildQueen@10:08 M:1354 G:6 L S:59/86 BuildOverlord@10:08 M:1254 G:6 L:8 S:59/86 BuildDrone @10:08 M:1204 G:6 L:7 S:60/86 BuildDrone @10:08 M:1154 G:6 L:6 S:61/86 BuildDrone @10:08 M:1104 G:6 L:5 S:62/86 BuildDrone @10:15 Spawned: Overlord+1 @10:17 M:1141 G:108 L:4 S:63/94 BuildMutalisk @10:17 M:1041 G:8 L:3 S:65/94 BuildDrone @10:17 M 91 G:8 L:2 S:66/94 BuildDrone@10:17 M 41 G:8 L:1 S:67/94 BuildDrone@10:20 Spawned: Larva+1 @10:20 M 20 G:42 L:3 S:68/94 BuildDrone@10:20 M:870 G:42 L:2 S:69/94 BuildDrone @10:20 M:820 G:42 L:1 S:70/94 BuildDrone @10:22 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:22 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:22 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:22 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:22 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:22 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:25 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:25 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:25 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:25 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:29 Spawned: Zergling+2 @10:33 Spawned: Overlord+1 @10:34 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:34 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:34 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:35 Spawned: Larva+1 @10:35 M 85 G:213 L:3 S:71/102 BuildMutalisk@10:35 M:885 G:113 L:2 S:73/102 BuildOverlord @10:35 M:785 G:113 L:1 S:73/102 BuildMutalisk @10:37 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:37 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:37 Spawned: Drone+1 @10:41 Spawned: Mutalisk+1 @10:49 Spawned: Larva+4 @10:49 M 65 G:173 L:4 S:75/102 BuildOverlord@10:49 M:865 G:173 L:3 S:75/102 BuildDrone @10:50 Spawned: Mutalisk+1 @10:50 Spawned: Larva+1 @10:50 M:836 G:184 L:5 S:76/102 BuildMutalisk @10:52 M:777 G:107 L:4 S:78/102 BuildMutalisk @10:52 M:677 G:7 L:3 S:80/102 BuildZergling @10:52 M:627 G:7 L:2 S:81/102 BuildQueen @10:52 M:477 G:7 L:2 S:83/102 BuildQueen @10:57 Spawned: Spire+1 @10:58 Spawned: Queen+1 @11:00 Spawned: Overlord+1 @11:01 M:512 G:110 L:2 S:85/110 BuildMutalisk @11:05 Spawned: Larva+1 @11:06 Spawned: Drone+1 @11:08 Spawned: Mutalisk+1 @11:08 Spawned: Mutalisk+1 @11:09 M:578 G:101 L:4 S:87/110 BuildMutalisk @11:09 M:478 G:1 L:3 S:89/110 BuildZergling @11:14 Spawned: Overlord+1 @11:16 Spawned: Zergling+2 @11:18 M:620 G:104 L:2 S 0/118 BuildMutalisk@11:18 M:520 G:4 L:1 S 2/118 BuildOverlord@11:20 Spawned: Larva+1 @11:20 M:462 G:26 L:3 S 2/118 BuildOverlord@11:20 M:362 G:26 L:2 S 2/118 BuildZergling@11:20 M:312 G:26 L:1 S 3/118 BuildOverlord@11:23 Spawned: Mutalisk+1 @11:25 Spawned: Mutalisk+1 @11:33 Spawned: Zergling+2 @11:34 Spawned: Larva+4 @11:34 Spawned: Mutalisk+1 @11:34 M:510 G:186 L:4 S 3/118 BuildMutalisk@11:34 M:410 G:86 L:3 S 5/118 BuildDrone@11:35 Spawned: Larva+1 @11:36 M:403 G:109 L:5 S 6/118 BuildMutalisk@11:36 M:303 G L:4 S8/118 BuildZergling@11:42 Spawned: Queen+1 @11:42 Spawned: Queen+1 @11:42 Spawned: Mutalisk+1 @11:43 Spawned: Larva+4 @11:43 Spawned: Overlord+1 @11:44 Spawned: Zergling+2 @11:44 M:423 G:100 L:7 S 9/126 BuildMutalisk@11:45 Spawned: Overlord+1 @11:45 Spawned: Overlord+1 @11:50 Spawned: Larva+1 @11:51 Spawned: Mutalisk+1 @11:51 Spawned: Drone+1 @11:53 M:516 G:103 L S:101/142 BuildOverseer@11:53 M:466 G:3 L S:101/134 BuildZergling@11:53 M:416 G:3 L:8 S:102/134 BuildZergling @11:53 M:366 G:3 L:7 S:103/134 BuildZergling @11:53 M:316 G:3 L:6 S:104/134 BuildZergling @11:53 M:266 G:3 L:5 S:105/134 BuildZergling @11:53 M:216 G:3 L:4 S:106/134 BuildZergling @11:53 M:166 G:3 L:3 S:107/134 BuildZergling @11:53 M:116 G:3 L:2 S:108/134 BuildZergling @11:55 Evolved: Metabolic Boost @12:00 Spawned: Zergling+2 @12:07 Spawned: Mutalisk+1 @12:08 Spawned: Larva+1 @12:09 Spawned: Mutalisk+1 @12:10 Spawned: Overseer+1 @12:17 Spawned: Mutalisk+1 @12:17 Spawned: Zergling+2 @12:17 Spawned: Zergling+2 @12:17 Spawned: Zergling+2 @12:17 Spawned: Zergling+2 @12:17 Spawned: Zergling+2 @12:17 Spawned: Zergling+2 @12:17 Spawned: Zergling+2 @12:17 Spawned: Zergling+2 Satisfied. Number of actions in build order: 143 ---Final Output--- At time: 12:17 Minerals: 595 Gas: 276 Supply: 109/142 Drones: 49 Overlords: 15 Overseers: 2 Queens: 4 Zerglings: 28 Roaches: 7 Mutalisks: 12 Hatcheries: 2 Lairs: 1 Gas Extractors: 6 Spawning Pools: 1 Roach Warrens: 1 Spire: 2 Metabolic Boost Glial Reconstitution ------------------ Tue Nov 02 11:06:55 EDT 2010: 610649.8058592905 How long did you let this run for? Usually, if it runs long enough it will not use multiple buildings. | ||
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Ajunta
Germany522 Posts
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Pwere
Canada1557 Posts
On November 03 2010 00:39 some_pro wrote: This won't be nearly as useful for T and P, as they cannot cut units to get more workers out, and this program is not terribly useful for builds that transition into the lategame. Plus, it's gonna have one hell of a time with chrono boosting I think.The game is gonna change so much when toss and terran support is released :o | ||
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