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Nada interview after preliminaries [fomos]

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penquin777
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Last Edited: 2010-10-13 01:58:07
October 12 2010 16:35 GMT
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TITLE : [GSL Preliminaries] Genius Lee Yoon Yul (NaDa)천재 NaDa, "I think I should at least go up to the finals"
2010 Otober 12th, 18:46 KST
REPORTER : [Fomos Kyung Hyun Kim] I was motivated after seeing Yohan Lim (Boxer) making it to the main stage.

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**O SHIET~~ Nada in different uniform!!!

Genius Nada(oGs) will finally set out to the main stage of Starcraft 2

On October 12th, Nada went through the GSL Starcraft 2 Open Season2 Preliminary round and made it to the main stages. Nada gave a preview of what to come in Season 2 by giving a great performance in his first official games after converting to Starcraft2.

Interview with Nada

- You made it to the main stage for GSL Starcraft2 Open Season 2.
β–² It's been a while since I've played an official game. I was very nervous but I am glad I made it through. Watching (Lim) Yohan making it to the main stage motivated me. I feel good now.
*there should be an English word for ν˜•....

- GSL μŠ€νƒ€ν¬λž˜ν”„νŠΈ2 μ˜€ν”ˆ μ‹œμ¦Œ2 본선에 μ§„μΆœν–ˆλ‹€.
β–² μ˜€λžœλ§Œμ— κ²½κΈ°λ₯Ό ν–ˆλ‹€. κΈ΄μž₯을 많이 ν–ˆλŠ”λ° μ˜¬λΌκ°€μ„œ 정말 닀행이닀. (μž„)μš”ν™˜μ΄ ν˜•μ΄ 본선에 μ§„μΆœν•˜λŠ” 것을 보고 동기뢀여가 됐닀. 기뢄이 μ’‹λ‹€.


- What did you do after announcing to convert over to Starcraft2?
β–² I tried to have my own personal time. I tried to get almost no contact from the outside. I had a lot of time to think and also thought about my career. I did not want to give up Starcraft2 so I decided to participate.
- μŠ€νƒ€2 μ „ν–₯ λ°œν‘œ 이후 μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ μ§€λƒˆλ‚˜?
β–² 혼자만의 μ‹œκ°„μ„ κ°€μ§€λ €κ³  λ…Έλ ₯을 많이 ν–ˆλ‹€. μ™ΈλΆ€μ˜ 연락을 거의 λ°›μ§€ μ•Šμ•˜λ‹€. 생각을 많이 ν–ˆκ³ , μ§„λ‘œμ— λŒ€ν•œ 고민도 많이 ν–ˆλ‹€. μŠ€νƒ€ν¬λž˜ν”„νŠΈ2λŠ” ν¬κΈ°ν•˜κ³  μ‹Άμ§€ μ•Šμ•„μ„œ μ°Έκ°€ν•˜κ²Œ 됐닀.

-You joined oGs.
β–² I was practicing by myself at first. It has been only a few days since I joined oGs. I wanted to look for a team rather than practicing by myself and concluded that oGs is a great team. When I met up with (Hwang) Kyu Hoon (Spunky), our thoughts seemed to agree. I practiced yesterday at the house and I was able to pass on to the main stage because a lot of the players helped me out. I thank my oGs teammates.

- oGs에 μž…λ‹¨ν–ˆλŠ”λ°.
β–² μ²˜μŒμ—λŠ” 혼자 μ—°μŠ΅μ„ ν–ˆλ‹€. oGs에 μž…λ‹¨ν•œ 것은 λ©°μΉ  λ˜μ§€ μ•Šμ•˜λ‹€. 혼자 ν•˜λŠ” 것보닀 νŒ€μ„ μ°Ύκ³  μ‹Άμ—ˆκ³  oGsκ°€ ν›Œλ₯­ν•œ νŒ€μ΄λΌκ³  μƒκ°ν–ˆλ‹€. (ν™©)κ·œν›ˆμ΄ ν˜•κ³Όμ˜ λ§Œλ‚¨μ—μ„œ μ„œλ‘œμ˜ 생각이 잘 λ§žμ•˜λ‹€. μ–΄μ œλ„ μˆ™μ†Œμ—μ„œ μ—°μŠ΅μ„ ν–ˆλŠ”λ° λ§Žμ€ μ„ μˆ˜λ“€μ΄ λ„μ™€μ€˜μ„œ μ§„μΆœν•  수 μžˆμ—ˆλ‹€. oGs νŒ€μ›λ“€μ—κ²Œ κ°μ‚¬λ“œλ¦°λ‹€.

- You and Boxer drew a lot of attention by participating in the Preliminaries.
β–² There are things I dreamed remembering the past. It feels like I'm back in the past. I couldn't fail to go on to the main stage after (Lim) Yohan made it through. We cheered each other on. It was tight, but I am relieved that I made it through.
- μž„μš”ν™˜ μ„ μˆ˜μ™€ ν•¨κ»˜ μ˜ˆμ„ μ— μ°Έκ°€ν•˜λ©° λ§Žμ€ 관심을 받기도 ν–ˆλ‹€.
β–² κ³Όκ±°λ₯Ό νšŒμƒν•˜λ©΄μ„œ κΏˆκΏ”μ™”λ˜ 것이 μžˆλ‹€. μ˜ˆμ „μœΌλ‘œ λŒμ•„κ°„ λ“―ν•œ λŠλ‚Œμ΄ λ“ λ‹€. (μž„)μš”ν™˜μ΄ ν˜•μ΄ μ˜¬λΌκ°€μžˆλŠ” μƒν™©μ—μ„œ λ‚΄κ°€ λ–¨μ–΄μ§€λ©΄ μ•ˆλ  것 κ°™λ‹€λŠ” 생각을 ν–ˆλ‹€. μ„œλ‘œ 응원을 ν–ˆλ‹€. μ•„μŠ¬μ•„μŠ¬ν•˜κΈ΄ ν–ˆμ§€λ§Œ λ‚˜λ„ μ§„μΆœν•˜κ²Œ λ˜μ–΄μ„œ 닀행이닀.

- How were the preliminary matches today?
β–² All the games were pretty easy(basic) except the final round. I was familiar with Soohan Kim (100prowin), whom I met in the final round, he has a strong early game pressure. I was caught off guard in the first round and lost, but after that, it was pretty intense.
- 였늘 μ˜ˆμ„  경기듀은 μ–΄λ• λ‚˜?
β–² κ²°μŠΉμ „ μ™Έμ—λŠ” λͺ¨λ‘ λ¬΄λ‚œν•œ νŽΈμ΄μ—ˆλ‹€. κ²°μŠΉμ „μ—μ„œ λ§Œλ‚œ κΉ€μˆ˜ν•œ μ„ μˆ˜λŠ” λ‚΄κ°€ μ•„λŠ” μ„ μˆ˜μΈλ°, μ΄ˆλ°˜μ— κ°•λ ₯ν•œ 압박을 ν•˜λŠ” μ„ μˆ˜λ‹€. 1μ„ΈνŠΈμ—μ„œ λ°©μ‹¬ν•œ κ΄€κ³„λ‘œ μ‰½κ²Œ νŒ¨λ°°ν–ˆκ³ , κ·Έ 이후에 κΈ΄μž₯감 λ„˜μΉ˜λŠ” μŠΉλΆ€λ₯Ό νŽΌμ³€λ‹€.

-Your previous fame might be a burden to you.
β–² I have forgotten all thoughts about Starcraft (1). I am playing Starcraft2 in the same mindset as when I first started. I will have a mind of a rookie. But I think I should try to satisfy my fan's expectations.
- 전에 μŒ“μ€ λͺ…μ„± λ•Œλ¬Έμ— 뢀담감도 μžˆμ„ 것 κ°™λ‹€.
β–² μŠ€νƒ€ν¬λž˜ν”„νŠΈμ— λŒ€ν•œ λ§ˆμŒμ€ λͺ¨λ‘ μžŠμ—ˆλ‹€. μŠ€νƒ€ν¬λž˜ν”„νŠΈ2λŠ” μ˜ˆμ „μ— 처음 μ‹œμž‘ν–ˆμ„ λ•Œμ˜ λ§ˆμŒκ°€μ§μœΌλ‘œ μž„ν•˜κ³  μžˆλ‹€. μ‹ μΈμ˜ μžμ„Έλ‘œ μž„ν•  것이닀. ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ νŒ¬λ“€μ˜ κΈ°λŒ€μ—λŠ” 뢀응해야 ν•œλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•œλ‹€.

-What result would meet the fan's expectations?
β–² I think I should make it to the finals. Honestly, I had no confidence when the finals aired in season1. But I kept trying my hardest, and gained my confidence after joining oGs.
- κΈ°λŒ€μ— 뢀응할 λ§Œν•œ 성적은 μ–΄λŠ 정도인가?
β–² κ²°μŠΉμ „κΉŒμ§€λŠ” κ°€μ•Ό ν•œλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•œλ‹€. μ†”μ§νžˆ μ‹œμ¦Œ1 κ²°μŠΉμ „μ„ ν•  λ•ŒκΉŒμ§€λ§Œ 해도 μžμ‹ κ°μ΄ μ—†μ—ˆλ‹€. ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 계속 λ…Έλ ₯ν–ˆκ³ , oGs에 μž…λ‹¨ν•˜λ©΄μ„œ μžμ‹ κ°μ΄ 생겼닀.

-Do you have a player you want to meet in the finals?
β–² I would like to have a match against Lim Yohan. I did not practice with Lim Yohan personally.
- λ§Œμ•½ κ²°μŠΉμ „μ— κ°„λ‹€λ©΄ λ§žλΆ™κ³  싢은 μ„ μˆ˜κ°€ μžˆλ‚˜?
β–² μž„μš”ν™˜ μ„ μˆ˜μ™€ κ²½κΈ°λ₯Ό ν•˜κ³  μ‹Άλ‹€. μž„μš”ν™˜ μ„ μˆ˜μ™€λŠ” λ”°λ‘œ μ—°μŠ΅μ„ ν•œ 적은 μ—†λ‹€.

-Are there any advantages for the Starcraft Progamers?
β–² I think that the game Starcraft itself is very hard. I could see that the players with superior gaming sense would do well. But you have to use a little bit more brains than the prequel.
- μŠ€νƒ€ν¬λž˜ν”„νŠΈ ν”„λ‘œκ²Œμ΄λ¨Έ μΆœμ‹ λ“€μ΄ μœ λ¦¬ν•œ 점이 μžˆλ‚˜?
β–² μŠ€νƒ€ν¬λž˜ν”„νŠΈλΌλŠ” κ²Œμž„ μžμ²΄κ°€ ꡉμž₯히 μ–΄λ ΅λ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•œλ‹€. κ±°κΈ°μ—μ„œ κ²Œμž„ 감각과 μ„ΌμŠ€κ°€ μƒμœ„κΆŒμ΄μ—ˆλ˜ μ„ μˆ˜λ“€μ€ μΆ©λΆ„νžˆ μž˜ν•  수 μžˆλ‹€κ³  λ³Έλ‹€. ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ μ „μž‘λ³΄λ‹€λŠ” 머리λ₯Ό μž˜μ¨μ•Ό ν•œλ‹€.

-How do you see the race balance?
β–² It is pretty difficult to win playing **EDIT "vs Zerg" instead of as** Zerg at the higher levels. I think the current balance is not that great (laugh). Patch1.2 is previewed, and if that goes through and the Zerg players from SC1 convert over, Zerg will overrun everything.
- μ’…μ‘± λ°ΈλŸ°μŠ€λŠ” μ–΄λ–»λ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•˜λ‚˜?
β–² μƒμœ„κΆŒμ—μ„œ 저그전을 ν•˜λ©΄ 생각보닀 이기기가 쉽지 μ•Šλ‹€. μ§€κΈˆμ˜ λ°ΈλŸ°μŠ€κ°€ κ·Έλ ‡κ²Œ 쒋은 것 κ°™μ§€λŠ” μ•Šλ‹€κ³  λ³Έλ‹€(μ›ƒμŒ). 1.2 νŒ¨μΉ˜κ°€ μ˜ˆκ³ λ˜μ–΄ μžˆλŠ”λ°, κ·Έ λ‚΄μš©μ΄ 이어지고 μ•„λ§ˆ μŠ€νƒ€1의 저그듀이 λ„˜μ–΄μ˜€λ©΄ μ €κ·Έκ°€ λͺ¨λ‘ νœ©μ“Έ 것 κ°™λ‹€.

- Lim Yohan said that if Terran gets harder for him, he is willing to change his race.
β–² I only know how to use terran. Honestly, I agree with Yohan's Statement. I wish there was a terran player in the commentary(Korean) staff (laugh).
- μž„μš”ν™˜ μ„ μˆ˜λŠ” ν…Œλž€μ΄ 더 μ–΄λ €μ›Œμ§„λ‹€λ©΄ 쒅쑱을 λ°”κΏ€ μˆ˜λ„ μžˆλ‹€λŠ” 말을 ν•˜κΈ°λ„ ν–ˆλ‹€.
β–² λ‚˜λŠ” ν•  쀄 μ•„λŠ” 것이 ν…Œλž€ 뿐이닀. 사싀 (μž„)μš”ν™˜μ΄ ν˜•μ˜ λ§μ—λŠ” 적극 λ™μ˜ν•œλ‹€. ν•΄μ„€μœ„μ› μ€‘μ—μ„œλ„ ν…Œλž€μ΄ ν•œ λΆ„ μžˆμ—ˆμœΌλ©΄ μ’‹κ² λ‹€(μ›ƒμŒ).

-It feels as if you have some words to say to the fans.
β–² All I can say to my fans is sorry. I couldn't express anything to them for a while. I wrote a short sentence in my diary saying 'I will walk my road and want to to be owner (head... host... please translate this for me anyone?) anywhere I go.' I will elaborate further in the future. Please cheer me on a little more (literal translation is "I would like it if I have more support.")
- νŒ¬λ“€μ—κ²Œ ν•˜κ³  싢은 말이 μžˆμ„ 것 κ°™λ‹€.
β–² νŒ¬λ“€μ—κ²ŒλŠ” μ£„μ†‘ν•˜λ‹€λŠ” 말 밖에 λͺ»ν•˜κ² λ‹€. κ·Έ λ™μ•ˆ μ–΄λ–€ ν‘œν˜„λ„ ν•˜μ§€ λͺ»ν–ˆλ‹€. 닀이어리에 μ§§κ²Œλ‚˜λ§ˆ 글을 μΌλŠ”λ° 'λ‚΄κ°€ 갈 길을 갈 뿐이고, μ–΄λ””μ„œλ“  주인이 되고 μ‹Άλ‹€'λŠ” λ‚΄μš©μ΄μ—ˆλ‹€. μ‘°λ§Œκ°„ 그에 λŒ€ν•œ 더 μžμ„Έν•œ 글을 쓰도둝 ν•˜κ² λ‹€. 더 λ§Žμ€ 응원을 ν•΄μ£Όμ…¨μœΌλ©΄ μ’‹κ² λ‹€.

- The general evaluation is that the level of gaming increased in Season 2.
β–² I agree. Players who drew lot of attention in Season1 failed to qualify and I think it will get harder in Season3
- μ‹œμ¦Œ2의 λ‚œμ΄λ„κ°€ μ‹œμ¦Œ1보닀 λ†’μ•„μ‘Œλ‹€λŠ” 평가가 μžˆλŠ”λ°.
β–² κ·Έλ ‡κ²Œ μƒκ°ν•œλ‹€. μ‹œμ¦Œ1 λ•Œ μ£Όλͺ©λ°›μ€ μ„ μˆ˜λ“€μ΄ λŒ€κ±° νƒˆλ½ν•˜λŠ” κ²½μš°κ°€ λ°œμƒν–ˆλŠ”λ° μ΄λŠ” μ‹œμ¦Œ3 λ•ŒλŠ” 더 νž˜λ“€μ–΄μ§ˆ 것 κ°™λ‹€.

- Any additional words.
β–² People from my school cheered me on. I would like to thank Shin Hyun Gook from school. Hong Sehyun came to cheer me on today although he lost in the final round yesterday. I would like to thank my fellow students at Inha University who cheered me on.
- 더 ν•˜κ³  싢은 말이 μžˆλ‹€λ©΄.
β–² ν•™κ΅μ—μ„œ 응원을 많이 해쀬닀. 학ꡐ 친ꡬ μ‹ ν˜„κ΅­μ—κ²Œ λ„ˆλ¬΄ κ³ λ§™λ‹€. μ–΄μ œ κ²°μŠΉμ „μ—μ„œ νƒˆλ½ν•œ ν™μ„Έν˜„μ΄λΌλŠ” μΉœκ΅¬κ°€ 였늘 응원을 μ™€μ€˜μ„œ λ„ˆλ¬΄ κ³ λ§™λ‹€. 응원해쀀 μΈν•˜λŒ€ν•™κ΅ ν•™μš°λΆ„λ“€μ—κ²Œλ„ λ„ˆλ¬΄ κ°μ‚¬λ“œλ¦°λ‹€.


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I decided to do this to improve my Korean to English translation skill. Please feel free to post edits.
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Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
October 12 2010 16:39 GMT
#2
God, I seriously cant wait to watch nada and boxer in gsl2. Its gonna be Legen......DARY.
vohne
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines197 Posts
October 12 2010 16:39 GMT
#3
Great interview! I hope Nada makes it far into the sport, and all those sc1 pros develop new and creative strategies. Thanks for the translation!
Blackjackbob
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada164 Posts
October 12 2010 16:40 GMT
#4
Thanks!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51673 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 16:43:33
October 12 2010 16:41 GMT
#5
just use the suffix -hyung for ν˜•. if it really concerns you, add a translators note saying it's 'older friend/brother in korean' or something like that, but most people shouldn't be bothered by it.

also ν™˜ is hwan not han, just something minor.
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SpiDaH
Profile Joined March 2010
France198 Posts
October 12 2010 16:41 GMT
#6
pretty cool thanks for the work OP
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
October 12 2010 16:42 GMT
#7
He joined oGs? Pretty huge news imo. Basically all the oGs players got a veteran who can, if anything, help them prepare better as progamers, if not as players of a specific race.

Love his comments about Zerg. 1.2 can't come fast enough, even if it's just to change perceptions.
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
October 12 2010 16:43 GMT
#8
Nada vs Boxer in GSL2 finals.....just thinking about it blows my mind.

Thanks for translation!
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 16:45:37
October 12 2010 16:43 GMT
#9
Cant wait to see how Boxer and Nada do in the GSL. I hope they do well.

I sure as hell wont be disappointed if thats the TvT we see in the finals
@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
drlame
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden574 Posts
October 12 2010 16:43 GMT
#10
-How do you see the race balance?
β–² It is pretty difficult to win playing as Zerg at the higher levels. I think the current balance is not that great (laugh). Patch1.2 is previewed, and if that goes through and the Zerg players from SC1 convert over, Zerg will overrun everything.


Hell yeah, let's hope for some effort and JD action soon! Nice interview btw.
Endorsed
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1221 Posts
October 12 2010 16:43 GMT
#11
Thanks for the translation^^
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
October 12 2010 16:43 GMT
#12
TLO Nada grudge match please!

PLEASE
starleague forever
Kishkumen
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States650 Posts
October 12 2010 16:44 GMT
#13
On October 13 2010 01:42 On_Slaught wrote:
He joined oGs? Pretty huge news imo. Basically all the oGs players got a veteran who can, if anything, help them prepare better as progamers, if not as players of a specific race.

Did you miss that? There was this huge thread of speculation before the announcement.
Weird, last time I checked the UN said you need to have at least 200 APM and be rainbow league to be called human. β€”Liquid`TLO
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 16:45:07
October 12 2010 16:44 GMT
#14
thanks for the translation. let's get a teamliquid badge on nada's oGs uniform please!!
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broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
October 12 2010 16:46 GMT
#15
thanks for the translation. somewhat surprising he lost the opening game of his final match. what a scary thought if he didn't qualify.
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
October 12 2010 16:46 GMT
#16
Awesome, thanks! NaDa's at university? :>
Quasimoto3000
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States471 Posts
October 12 2010 16:52 GMT
#17
Ah hoping to get a glimpse of the TL logo on nada's beautiful body lol
Every sunday a nun lays from my gunplay
radim
Profile Joined October 2009
Czech Republic122 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 17:00:43
October 12 2010 16:57 GMT
#18
On October 13 2010 01:35 penquin777 wrote:
*there should be an English word for ν˜•....

I think you can use hyong, most people are probably familiar with that term. and it definitely sounds better than 'brother' or 'older brother'.

and of course thanks for the translation!

edit: GTR already wrote the same thing, sorry for that -.-
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dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
October 12 2010 16:58 GMT
#19
ooo did he say sc2 requires more brain than bw. not that i agree or disagree but it seems controversial and might distance him further from some of his fans who were angered by his switch.

but, really looking forward to watch him play! The bad thing is i probably will have to buy tickets on multiple days because i doubt they will put nada and boxer at the same day =(

sigh.. i guess there is no option but buying the season ticket
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
October 12 2010 17:00 GMT
#20
Nada and Boxer, nerdchillssssss!
drsnuggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Korea (South)362 Posts
October 12 2010 17:04 GMT
#21
NaDa is a student at Inha university? Holy shit, I'm going there for my semester abroad, just hoping he's still there when I'm comiiiiiiing...sounds too good to be true
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
October 12 2010 17:04 GMT
#22
Liquid to also get some jackets please <3
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
October 12 2010 17:06 GMT
#23
It still shocks me that people still didn't know Nada joined oGs when it was announced ages ago

Nada vs Idra finals 8D
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Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
October 12 2010 17:09 GMT
#24
I am so glad they both qualified (boxer // nada)

I hope they can continue at this pace throughout more GSLs
DooMDash
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1015 Posts
October 12 2010 17:10 GMT
#25
Shocking both nada and boxer think Z > T. Over nerfed?

Cheering for both of them.
S1 3500+ Master T. S2 1600+ Master T.
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
October 12 2010 17:20 GMT
#26
-How do you see the race balance?
β–² It is pretty difficult to win playing as Zerg at the higher levels. I think the current balance is not that great (laugh). Patch1.2 is previewed, and if that goes through and the Zerg players from SC1 convert over, Zerg will overrun everything.

Did he really say as or is it just translated wrong? I'm just surprised if he meant that after that patch zerg will be unstoppable
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
October 12 2010 17:22 GMT
#27
On October 13 2010 02:06 Merikh wrote:
It still shocks me that people still didn't know Nada joined oGs when it was announced ages ago

Nada vs Idra finals 8D


It would definitely be cool, but Idra would have had to improve hugely recently. FruitDealer is simply twice as good as any other zerg I've ever seen play.

I hope Nada goes far, but I just don't think he will for 2 reasons. 1, it'd be too good to be true. and 2, it's so easy to lose a bo3 in sc2!
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
October 12 2010 17:23 GMT
#28
If NaDa wins the GSL I will promise to purge any negative thoughts I may have had about SC2. Same for Boxer.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
October 12 2010 17:28 GMT
#29
Very cool, hope he does well!
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
slam
Profile Joined May 2010
United States923 Posts
October 12 2010 17:29 GMT
#30
Nada is so beautiful. <3
I get it.
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
October 12 2010 17:33 GMT
#31
On October 13 2010 02:23 Slow Motion wrote:
If NaDa wins the GSL I will promise to purge any negative thoughts I may have had about SC2. Same for Boxer.


May I ask why? If you don't like or have negative thoughts about SC2 how them winning it would change anything?
Or is it just "my fav player won so this must be the best game ever" thing.
I'm actually just curious
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
October 12 2010 17:38 GMT
#32
On October 13 2010 02:33 Piski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 02:23 Slow Motion wrote:
If NaDa wins the GSL I will promise to purge any negative thoughts I may have had about SC2. Same for Boxer.


May I ask why? If you don't like or have negative thoughts about SC2 how them winning it would change anything?
Or is it just "my fav player won so this must be the best game ever" thing.
I'm actually just curious


logic and rationality has no place in fanboyism...


man, when is GSL2 starting? can't wait to see them old legends plays!
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
October 12 2010 17:43 GMT
#33
On October 13 2010 01:35 penquin777 wrote:
prequel

Did he really call SC/BW a prequel or is that a mistake in translation?
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Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
October 12 2010 18:05 GMT
#34
two gods have entered
Jaedong.
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 18:23:08
October 12 2010 18:13 GMT
#35
On October 13 2010 01:57 radim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 01:35 penquin777 wrote:
*there should be an English word for ν˜•....

I think you can use hyong, most people are probably familiar with that term. and it definitely sounds better than 'brother' or 'older brother'.

and of course thanks for the translation!

edit: GTR already wrote the same thing, sorry for that -.-

I agree, Its normal to just use the term and not translate it like "Don" in Italian. As people will know what it means or easily look it up anyway.

But as to the question that there should be an English word for it, there are many words used as honourifics particularly to elder males but outside of a few professions (mostly legal) they are no longer used and therefore don't sit very well as direct translations.

zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
October 12 2010 18:14 GMT
#36
Guess (Z)EffOrt is waiting for the patch before he starts raping peeps.
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
October 12 2010 18:15 GMT
#37
I want to see Nada with a TL patch on his arm. I would jizz rainbows.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
Hirmu
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Finland850 Posts
October 12 2010 18:19 GMT
#38
yess siiir! Genius Terran is back and rolling! gogo NaDa!
pieisamazing
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1234 Posts
October 12 2010 18:20 GMT
#39
Mixed feelings with legends crossing over but BW slowly dying.
connoisseur
Disastorm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States922 Posts
October 12 2010 18:25 GMT
#40
On October 13 2010 02:20 Piski wrote:
-How do you see the race balance?
β–² It is pretty difficult to win playing as Zerg at the higher levels. I think the current balance is not that great (laugh). Patch1.2 is previewed, and if that goes through and the Zerg players from SC1 convert over, Zerg will overrun everything.

Did he really say as or is it just translated wrong? I'm just surprised if he meant that after that patch zerg will be unstoppable


Yea im confused as well, he says Zerg is too weak, but then he says after the patch that they will be very strong. Are the patch changes really going to make that much of a difference?
"Don't worry so much man. There won't be any more zergs left to QQ. Lots of QQ about TvT is incoming though I bet." - Vrok 9/21/10
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 18:26:53
October 12 2010 18:25 GMT
#41
On October 13 2010 02:33 Piski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 02:23 Slow Motion wrote:
If NaDa wins the GSL I will promise to purge any negative thoughts I may have had about SC2. Same for Boxer.


May I ask why? If you don't like or have negative thoughts about SC2 how them winning it would change anything?
Or is it just "my fav player won so this must be the best game ever" thing.
I'm actually just curious

I like SC2 a lot. I think it's a great game, but not as good as BW. But yes, I'll be able to overlook any problems I had with the game if I get to see more of my favorite players.

Edit: I don't wanna derail this into a dumb SC2 vs. BW discussion, just giving my personal opinions and reasoning for appreciating NaDa in SC2.
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
October 12 2010 18:34 GMT
#42
I want one of those jackets...omg.
Skaff
Profile Joined February 2010
United States240 Posts
October 12 2010 18:45 GMT
#43
On October 13 2010 03:25 Disastorm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 02:20 Piski wrote:
-How do you see the race balance?
β–² It is pretty difficult to win playing as Zerg at the higher levels. I think the current balance is not that great (laugh). Patch1.2 is previewed, and if that goes through and the Zerg players from SC1 convert over, Zerg will overrun everything.

Did he really say as or is it just translated wrong? I'm just surprised if he meant that after that patch zerg will be unstoppable


Yea im confused as well, he says Zerg is too weak, but then he says after the patch that they will be very strong. Are the patch changes really going to make that much of a difference?


From my reading, it appears that he thinks that zerg is very strong at the top tier of play and the patch will amply it. As for me personally, I can't even come close to commenting on that. Thanks for the translation OP.
ShadowReaver
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada563 Posts
October 12 2010 18:49 GMT
#44
What a slick jacket. I want one
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
October 12 2010 18:57 GMT
#45
wow Nada lookin' good as always!
cant wait for him to beast it up this tournament
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
October 12 2010 19:00 GMT
#46
Are there any BW-pro's who play went to play Protoss (well)? It seems almost all the ones I hear of either are Terran and staying that, are switching to Terran or are Zerg and keep playing Zerg.I wouldn't mind seeing Bisu/Stork/Kingdom/Movie transfer to SC2 to have someone to cheer for ^^ At the moment my P hopes are on Inca and Genius but I'm not really that convinced on their skill (relative to the top ofc) ^^
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
October 12 2010 19:01 GMT
#47
On October 13 2010 04:00 Promises wrote:
Are there any BW-pro's who play went to play Protoss (well)? It seems almost all the ones I hear of either are Terran and staying that, are switching to Terran or are Zerg and keep playing Zerg.I wouldn't mind seeing Bisu/Stork/Kingdom/Movie transfer to SC2 to have someone to cheer for ^^ At the moment my P hopes are on Inca and Genius but I'm not really that convinced on their skill (relative to the top ofc) ^^

SangHo qualified for this coming GSL.
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
October 12 2010 19:02 GMT
#48
On October 13 2010 04:00 Promises wrote:
Are there any BW-pro's who play went to play Protoss (well)? It seems almost all the ones I hear of either are Terran and staying that, are switching to Terran or are Zerg and keep playing Zerg.I wouldn't mind seeing Bisu/Stork/Kingdom/Movie transfer to SC2 to have someone to cheer for ^^ At the moment my P hopes are on Inca and Genius but I'm not really that convinced on their skill (relative to the top ofc) ^^


(P)SangHo qualified for GSL2 yesterday, but yes there has not been a lot of Protoss users switching to SC2.
TymerA
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands759 Posts
October 12 2010 19:08 GMT
#49
i would pay up to 30$ for one of those jackets :O
nice.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
October 12 2010 19:08 GMT
#50
nada hwaiting
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
October 12 2010 20:04 GMT
#51
I didn't follow BW but I thought Sangho was involved in some kind of matchmaking scandal? Wouldn't that prevent him from playing in GSL?
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
October 12 2010 20:11 GMT
#52
On October 13 2010 05:04 Gentso wrote:
I didn't follow BW but I thought Sangho was involved in some kind of matchmaking scandal? Wouldn't that prevent him from playing in GSL?


Sangho was falsely accused.

His career was destroyed as a result.
teko
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1197 Posts
October 12 2010 20:13 GMT
#53
Winter is coming. TL should start making team jackets too
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
October 12 2010 20:15 GMT
#54
On October 13 2010 05:11 dukethegold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 05:04 Gentso wrote:
I didn't follow BW but I thought Sangho was involved in some kind of matchmaking scandal? Wouldn't that prevent him from playing in GSL?


Sangho was falsely accused.

His career was destroyed as a result.


Dang that really sucks... i'll be rooting for this guy in SC2
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
October 12 2010 20:19 GMT
#55
I did not know NaDa was going to university. Great interview, thanks for the translation penquin!
KTY
Uhh Negative
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1090 Posts
October 12 2010 20:43 GMT
#56
On October 13 2010 01:58 dtz wrote:
ooo did he say sc2 requires more brain than bw. not that i agree or disagree but it seems controversial and might distance him further from some of his fans who were angered by his switch.

but, really looking forward to watch him play! The bad thing is i probably will have to buy tickets on multiple days because i doubt they will put nada and boxer at the same day =(

sigh.. i guess there is no option but buying the season ticket

I think that statements stems from the fact that macroing just required way more skill and time in bw than sc2 so now you have to focus a little more on mind games, unit composition, and clever micro because everyone's macro will be almost perfect because of the easier mechanics. In bw there was only so much micro you could do without falling behind macro economically.
Krytha
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada140 Posts
October 12 2010 21:06 GMT
#57
The proper translation of ν˜• is "brah".

Boxer-brah taught me all I know.
Plaaguu
Profile Joined April 2009
United States406 Posts
October 12 2010 21:10 GMT
#58
Thanks for the interview! So excited to see NaDa play in the Ro64 =]
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
October 12 2010 21:56 GMT
#59
What does the S in ogs stand for? Old Generation ______?
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
October 12 2010 22:00 GMT
#60
On October 13 2010 06:56 Tachion wrote:
What does the S in ogs stand for? Old Generation ______?

Old Generation Starcrafters
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Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
October 12 2010 22:04 GMT
#61
I am cheering you for you Nada!
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
burnedwithdesire
Profile Joined October 2010
43 Posts
October 12 2010 22:28 GMT
#62
nada fighting !!!

adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
October 12 2010 22:36 GMT
#63
Different opinions much? Artosis claims roach range wont help zerg much. nada and boxer claim patch will help zerg too much. Honestly I think blizzard knows what they are doing.
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
Madder
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia427 Posts
October 12 2010 22:44 GMT
#64
BoxeR and NaDa in GSL2? That's just too damn awesome.

What would be even more awesome if one of them won, or TLO taking them both out to win it all!
whohastheredpill
Profile Joined September 2010
42 Posts
October 12 2010 22:50 GMT
#65
he said sc2 requires more thought....
lol?
"I do not think there is any thrill that can go through the human heart like that felt by the inventor as he sees some creation of the brain unfolding to success... Such emotions make a man forget food, sleep, friends, love, everything." - Nikalo Tesla
TitleRug
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States651 Posts
October 12 2010 22:52 GMT
#66
On October 13 2010 07:50 whohastheredpill wrote:
he said sc2 requires more thought....
lol?

I think it definitely does. Most strategies are already stratified in BW. But in SC2 no one knows the optimal strategies so people have to be creative.
coLCruncher fighting!
Borked
Profile Joined October 2010
221 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 23:00:29
October 12 2010 22:59 GMT
#67
On October 13 2010 01:58 dtz wrote:
ooo did he say sc2 requires more brain than bw. not that i agree or disagree but it seems controversial and might distance him further from some of his fans who were angered by his switch.

but, really looking forward to watch him play! The bad thing is i probably will have to buy tickets on multiple days because i doubt they will put nada and boxer at the same day =(

sigh.. i guess there is no option but buying the season ticket

On October 13 2010 07:50 whohastheredpill wrote:
he said sc2 requires more thought....
lol?

I think he meant this by comparing mechanics , which is also true - to a degree - ; in bw, mechanics are more rewarding than in sc2. sc2 is also more forgiving mechanics wise (like when you see 60 apm around top diamond) , so I think he didn't mean that brainless ppl are winning bw but there is more room for strategy since blizzard added too much new thing. ( a lot of abilities,spells, also armored-light-psionic armor classes etc. ) It is like bw-> %55 mechanics %45 brains, sc2-> %55 brains, %45 mechanics, It think that was he meant, not a big difference.

So no need to offended
Thou shall not crave thy neighbor.
Lucktar
Profile Joined July 2008
United States526 Posts
October 12 2010 23:00 GMT
#68
On October 13 2010 06:06 Krytha wrote:
The proper translation of ν˜• is "brah".

Boxer-brah taught me all I know.

rofl.

Also, it sounds like NaDa's got a really good mindset going into this, recognizing that his experience might give him an advantage, but he's got to start at the beginning like everybody else. Also also, NaDa vs Boxer finals would be obviously insaaaane, but we're a long way off from that. NaDa and Boxer never met in a BW final, did they? >.> I'm pretty sure they didn't.
NaDa, much, ZerO fighting!
Scrapiron
Profile Joined August 2010
74 Posts
October 12 2010 23:08 GMT
#69
So if we saw TLO beat Nada, and Nada is going to the finals....


THAT MEANS TLO IS GOING TO WIN THE FINALS!
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
October 12 2010 23:09 GMT
#70
GSL2 is going to be amazing sans having no toss in the ro8 again
ccdnl
Profile Joined April 2010
United States611 Posts
October 12 2010 23:16 GMT
#71
nada, boxer tlo idra, gogogogogo!!!
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cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
October 12 2010 23:21 GMT
#72
On October 13 2010 08:00 Lucktar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 06:06 Krytha wrote:
The proper translation of ν˜• is "brah".

Boxer-brah taught me all I know.

rofl.

Also, it sounds like NaDa's got a really good mindset going into this, recognizing that his experience might give him an advantage, but he's got to start at the beginning like everybody else. Also also, NaDa vs Boxer finals would be obviously insaaaane, but we're a long way off from that. NaDa and Boxer never met in a BW final, did they? >.> I'm pretty sure they didn't.


2004 KT-KTF Championship
eggs
Profile Joined August 2010
1011 Posts
October 12 2010 23:47 GMT
#73
On October 13 2010 07:50 whohastheredpill wrote:
he said sc2 requires more thought....
lol?


i read it as: "more than than before, im using my brain well."
bjwithbraces
Profile Joined April 2010
United States549 Posts
October 12 2010 23:49 GMT
#74
hoping for an epic gsl2 finals between cool's fruit and nada's body
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Itzeddiieee
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)787 Posts
October 12 2010 23:53 GMT
#75
I need to buy that sweater/jacket now!

i want to see boxer vs nada finals... lol maybe not going to happen
SetStndbySmn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States657 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 00:12:04
October 13 2010 00:11 GMT
#76
On October 13 2010 07:59 Borked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 01:58 dtz wrote:
ooo did he say sc2 requires more brain than bw. not that i agree or disagree but it seems controversial and might distance him further from some of his fans who were angered by his switch.

but, really looking forward to watch him play! The bad thing is i probably will have to buy tickets on multiple days because i doubt they will put nada and boxer at the same day =(

sigh.. i guess there is no option but buying the season ticket

Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 07:50 whohastheredpill wrote:
he said sc2 requires more thought....
lol?

I think he meant this by comparing mechanics , which is also true - to a degree - ; in bw, mechanics are more rewarding than in sc2. sc2 is also more forgiving mechanics wise (like when you see 60 apm around top diamond) , so I think he didn't mean that brainless ppl are winning bw but there is more room for strategy since blizzard added too much new thing. ( a lot of abilities,spells, also armored-light-psionic armor classes etc. ) It is like bw-> %55 mechanics %45 brains, sc2-> %55 brains, %45 mechanics, It think that was he meant, not a big difference.

So no need to offended


If any of you enjoy some good ol' smash bros, it kindof resembles the shift from melee to brawl; players with extraordinary mechanics said melee was superior, while players that favored a mind-game or spacing oriented style had no issue with brawl (some even finding a focus on mechanics to be cumbersome). It's only natural for a game that more noticeably rewards your strengths to feel great, but like borked said, I don't think he was siting the superiority of one over the other in this case.
"He doesn't operate under some divine shroud that lets him determine what is or is not valid culture. He cannot rob you, retroactively, of wholly valid experiences; he cannot transform them into worthless things." - Tycho
erkicman
Profile Joined October 2010
United States206 Posts
October 13 2010 00:17 GMT
#77
I missed by chance to see Nada in his prime. I'm looking forward to this tournament!
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 01:16:19
October 13 2010 00:27 GMT
#78
Thanks for the translation!

Boxer vs Nada finals wold be sick, but I dont think either of them have the sc2 skills to go that far yet. I just hope both of them can put on some entertaining games and make it past a couple rounds.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
October 13 2010 00:30 GMT
#79
Nada qualifying doesn't count as community news while Tester being eliminated does?
Vz0
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada378 Posts
October 13 2010 00:34 GMT
#80
On October 13 2010 09:30 dukethegold wrote:
Nada qualifying doesn't count as community news while Tester being eliminated does?

Lol what? You thought nada won't make it? Sure julyzerg failed but NaDa has been playing sc2 for quite a while. Its a no brainer that he'd make it in. (geting to the finals is a different story)

Where as tester, is already an established sc2 players and widely known as the Best player in the world(of sc2) until of recent Fruitdealer pwnage. Having the best player, highest favorite of GSL1 being knocked out in the QUALIFIERS of GSL 2 is very astonishing.
ci_esteban
Profile Joined April 2010
United States217 Posts
October 13 2010 00:49 GMT
#81
Too bad he's going to the military soon!!!

j/k lol but srsly -_-. I'm having trouble containing my excitement at being able to watch Boxer and Nada play during the GSL stream. I hope the servers and such can handle it tbqh.
KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
October 13 2010 01:03 GMT
#82
The only question I have for Nada is: How can I get one of those jackets?

Seriously though, those are really nice, I think oGs would do well to sell those to their fanbase. I know it's not a huge thing in Korea, but the foreign fans would all love those, am I right?
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DaRkFrosT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States407 Posts
October 13 2010 01:53 GMT
#83
On October 13 2010 01:35 NaDa wrote:
I am playing Starcraft2 in the same mindset as when I first started. I will have a mind of a rookie.


Straight up.

NaDa is such an inspiration, haha.
Libera me from hell.
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
October 13 2010 02:49 GMT
#84
looking forward to watching him play :D

gsl2 is gonna be so epic
zor.au
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia270 Posts
October 13 2010 05:55 GMT
#85
everyone thinks their race is underpowered
wow
Moonling
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States987 Posts
October 13 2010 06:17 GMT
#86
Nada, i'm cheering for you old school
1% of koreans control 99% of starcraft winnings. #occupykorea.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 13 2010 06:28 GMT
#87
He goes to Inha University? Wikipedia says its a doctorate school. Does that mean he already has a BA/BS?
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nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
October 13 2010 06:32 GMT
#88
I prefer nada in fox uniform...
u gotta sk8
SoJu.WeRRa
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)820 Posts
October 13 2010 06:37 GMT
#89
Great interview, I hope to see NaDa far in the tournament
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ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
October 13 2010 06:47 GMT
#90
On October 13 2010 10:03 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
The only question I have for Nada is: How can I get one of those jackets?

Seriously though, those are really nice, I think oGs would do well to sell those to their fanbase. I know it's not a huge thing in Korea, but the foreign fans would all love those, am I right?

Id buy one!
Too bad there is no little TL-logo on it =(
no dude, the question
JoeCrow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States167 Posts
October 13 2010 07:31 GMT
#91
AWESOME POST! Thanks for the translation.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 13 2010 08:14 GMT
#92
Thanks to OP.

Starcraft II will be huge.
I had a good night of sleep.
Scias
Profile Joined July 2009
United States148 Posts
October 13 2010 08:22 GMT
#93
On October 13 2010 15:28 Jibba wrote:
He goes to Inha University? Wikipedia says its a doctorate school. Does that mean he already has a BA/BS?


Wiki also says it has 12 undergraduate schools:

* College of Engineering
* College of Information Technology and Engineering
* College of Natural Science
* College of Economics & International Trade
* College of Business Administration
* College of Education
* College of Law
* College of Social Sciences
* College of Humanities
* College of Human Ecology
* College of Medicine
* Arts and Sports"
MoriyaGXP
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)240 Posts
October 13 2010 08:25 GMT
#94
u guys forgot the zerg hero FruitDealer... the Terran Slayer

FD vs Nada or Boxer final imo

Jaedong/Bisu/Tossgirl fan <3
Redunzl
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
862 Posts
October 13 2010 08:30 GMT
#95
he's so handsome after his plastic surgery. cant wait to see him own nubs
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
October 13 2010 22:31 GMT
#96
On October 13 2010 17:30 Redunzl wrote:
he's so handsome after his plastic surgery. cant wait to see him own nubs

What? :D
I'd like to read more about this :o thank you in advance for links.
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