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On September 02 2010 00:51 Sky.Technique wrote:
i paid for lessons from incontrol MONTHS ago and he always ignores my facebook messages and the requests i do on gosu coachin site
you said to do this through paypal, how do i do this? i am looking for a refund t.t
edit: I just went to my paypal, i payed on May 8th, 2010
we originally were gonna do sc1 lesson but then he said r1ch never fixed his computer cuz he was ignoring him for some reason, so neither of us could host so he would contact me in like 2 weeks when he moved and we could do a session then...then i never got a return email
40 dollars (2 sessions im guessin that was what it was) gone :/
That's pretty messed up. Hopefully InControl was simply too busy...
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sad to hear  its unfortunate that a business has to close down because it was TOO successful
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You definitely need a website capable of doing automatically what you were doing manually.. If you were making enough money on this you should think about hiring someone to create something that better fits you.
Or let them contact the coach themselves like incontrol said, thats the way most personal trainers handle appointments even when they work for a company.
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On September 02 2010 02:22 ReTr0[p.S] wrote:
You definitely need a website capable of doing automatically what you were doing manually.. If you were making enough money on this you should think about hiring someone to create something that better fits you.
Or let them contact the coach themselves like incontrol said, thats the way most personal trainers handle appointments even when they work for a company.
There's benefits to both ways, but hindsight is always 20/20.
Keep in mind that GC seems to have had bigger plans in mind than just coaching. It seems like they eventually wanted to get into hosting tournaments, events, etc including some with prize money. For this the company needs a kickback on lessons so it can sponsor the prize money.
Also, it's an incentive for coaches if they have to do absolutely nothing and lessons just come to them with no work. On paper, it looks pretty nice for someone to tell you "show up at 7PM thursday and make $50".
Also on paper, it reduces the risk of failure. When you're relying on every coach to maintain a certain consistent image, as well as level of responsibility, timely responses, and overall customer services, there's too many points of failure. With centralized responsibility this becomes less of an issue, with the one ever-so-important caveat that the central contact must be able to live up to his own expectation.
Ultimately, I think the point here is that GC wanted to be more than just a coaching site. Which is totally a great idea and would be a great service. The idea just needs more refinement and planning, and I think the people there realize that now and I'm looking forward to seeing the second incarnation.
@Louder: You should get in touch with ycombinator. http://ycombinator.com. They are typically geared more towards tech industry startups, but depending on how good of a salesman you are, maybe you can pitch the idea to them  You'll need to come up with some revenue generating ideas outside of coaching though, because that won't be enough to get an actual investor to look at you. They specialize in funding startups who require an initial investment of less than $20k, which sounds perfect for you.
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absolutely terrible to allow it to go on in such a manner.
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On September 02 2010 01:59 mav451 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2010 00:51 Sky.Technique wrote:
i paid for lessons from incontrol MONTHS ago and he always ignores my facebook messages and the requests i do on gosu coachin site
you said to do this through paypal, how do i do this? i am looking for a refund t.t
edit: I just went to my paypal, i payed on May 8th, 2010
we originally were gonna do sc1 lesson but then he said r1ch never fixed his computer cuz he was ignoring him for some reason, so neither of us could host so he would contact me in like 2 weeks when he moved and we could do a session then...then i never got a return email
40 dollars (2 sessions im guessin that was what it was) gone :/ That's pretty messed up. Hopefully InControl was simply too busy...
are you being sarcastic? -_-
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Sucks, really liked it, and was planning on buying lessons in the near future =(
Anyway, good luck with future stuffs ^^
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On September 02 2010 03:42 Seam wrote:
Sucks, really liked it, and was planning on buying lessons in the near future =(
Anyway, good luck with future stuffs ^^
Yeah I was trying to get lessons but I guess I requested them at a bad time Any of the coaches still give individual lessons right now?
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Good luck in the future dude. Less is more!
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i'm going to say what some others said... get more coaches. you don't need big names to coach people, just like the pros of major sports there are a ton of different coaches at different levels.
you can higher mid level diamond to teach even bronze/silver players and save the high level diamond for the mid level diamond etc.
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On September 02 2010 00:51 Sky.Technique wrote:
i paid for lessons from incontrol MONTHS ago and he always ignores my facebook messages and the requests i do on gosu coachin site
you said to do this through paypal, how do i do this? i am looking for a refund t.t
edit: I just went to my paypal, i payed on May 8th, 2010
we originally were gonna do sc1 lesson but then he said r1ch never fixed his computer cuz he was ignoring him for some reason, so neither of us could host so he would contact me in like 2 weeks when he moved and we could do a session then...then i never got a return email
40 dollars (2 sessions im guessin that was what it was) gone :/
Try contacting Incontrol by PM in TeamLiquid. As it has been said, the structure of the website didn't allow good communication, so he probably never got you'r messages by the gosucoaching website. As for facebook i don't know much about that.
I never took lessons from Incontrol, but i sent him PM's for some advise about several things, and surprisingly, i received quick replies each time, and he is really a nice guy, i would never imagined getting an answer as i was guessing he must have too much spam to deal with stupid questions, but i can assure you, he answered pretty fast and was really helpful out of pure kindness as i never took lessons with him. I'm sure you'll get an answer from sending him a PM in TL. And machine is pretty much as respectable and amazingly helpful as incontrol.
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You guys have balls admitting your own mistakes like this. I've seen one too many gaming sites or people like this just shut down and say the people are screwed. I'm loving the SC community more and more, especially you guys.
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Good luck. I don't care about who did or didn't do what, but I'd hate to lose a "segment" of the community.
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Maybe this will spawn some competition int he coaching scene, having a monopoly is lucrative, someone else should jump on the bandwagon ^^
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I just wanna host mah tournaments T__T!
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This reminds me of a story, where my friend Lorenzo tried to start a company to make a quick buck selling shoe brushes but things didn't work out the way he imagined and his scheme backfired.
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I can tell it's been incredibly stressful, and still is, knowing people are expecting something from you, with a monetary investment, and you have failed to give the expected results.
Don't let it bother you, we all understand. Everyone is going to get a refund. No harm done.
Good luck in your future plans :3.
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I only charge 20usd/hour for organizational coaching.
PM me bro
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That's unfortunate, gosucoaching is a great idea behind it and I'm sure the demand is there. What exactly was the difficulty? Do you think that software could be used to help with the manual tasks you were doing?
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For students on the list of those who have paid but never got scheduled - please file a dispute, with your details, through PayPal. I realize it would be far more courteous and professional to gather those details and contact people individually, but along the lines of the scheduling work and other mentioned above - I simply do not have the time.
That is unbelievably weak."We will be up and running for your future business but in the mean time everyone who has already paid has to get their money back on their own". Unreal.
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