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Chronald
Profile Joined December 2009
United States619 Posts
September 01 2010 14:32 GMT
#41
The question is who will be streaming their stream?

That is the person who I want to know, and who will get 10 times the viewers that the paid GSL stream gets...
Got that.
ltortoise
Profile Joined August 2010
633 Posts
September 01 2010 14:32 GMT
#42
On September 01 2010 23:23 Ichabod wrote:
Well, crap, this news makes me sad, I suppose they need to pay for the prize money, but I'd prefer commercials, I guess we just have to wait and see how this all turns out.


This is such crap.

The prize money is NOTIHNG to Gretech. 170,000 USD? Absolutely nothing.

http://www.gretech.com/eng/ir_finance.html

In 2003 they had a NET PROFIT of 5 million USD.

I can understand them trying to make a profit on this event, but they should be thinking more long term. This is doomed to fail.
revoN
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan804 Posts
September 01 2010 14:33 GMT
#43
I would consider paying if GSL was an established quality product. As it stands now we get to watch some amateurs (yeah some may be known but they're not on a pro level) so why would I pay for it when I can watch pros play for free (BW)? And really If I wanted to watch amateurs there's plenty of tourneys around (including bigger ones like ESL or MLG).

SC2 is too young and imbalanced of a game to be taken seriously (not to mention the coming patch that will shift the balance). There's just too many unknowns at this point and it was announced on too short of a notice really. This kind of decisions make me vouch for KeSPA even more - they at least provide a quality product and whats more important you can get it for free.
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Dinosaur
Profile Joined April 2008
Denmark112 Posts
September 01 2010 14:39 GMT
#44
I'll gladly pay. I think it is cheap for a complete season. I agree with Littlebootz though, that lag is unacceptable.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
September 01 2010 14:39 GMT
#45
This is so retarded on their part.
I hope very few people pay and we all watch the restreams.

This tournament had so much hype and momentum now it's just going to fail as no-one can watch it.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
scottyyy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom796 Posts
September 01 2010 14:43 GMT
#46
I won't be buying. Every time I try to watch a VOD on GOMTV it's horrifically laggy anyway, it's like a slideshow.

Also, what's the 1st place prize for this first tournament? I can't remember - I've heard $80k and $170k mentioned.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
September 01 2010 14:43 GMT
#47
I'd pay for the VOD's if I knew they'd be released quickly (as in, within less than 24 hours after the event, preferably much sooner) and the price was cut it half.
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temps
Profile Joined April 2005
Canada62 Posts
September 01 2010 14:44 GMT
#48
Not going to pay for the live stream.. simply because I don't stay up to watch them most of the time. As for a vod ticket they need to lower the cost imo.. as it stands I'm going to look into alternative solutions or a shared account.
kGold
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada66 Posts
September 01 2010 14:45 GMT
#49
I really hope there is less banter in this thread than the amount we should all be writing on the GomTV forums......
If I lose to a noob, then what am I?
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
September 01 2010 14:46 GMT
#50
On September 01 2010 23:45 kGold wrote:
I really hope there is less banter in this thread than the amount we should all be writing on the GomTV forums......


http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens1/forum/ there's the link. There are several good threads by TL members like myself, motbob, and JWD that you can bump, or create your own!
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 14:54:31
September 01 2010 14:48 GMT
#51
No way. When you have higher quality bw games for free why i would pay for some mediocre Sc2 games with no names ( no offense but i don't think that the current Sc2 "pros" have godlike status and skills like JD or Flash ).

I was highly suspicious about their business model for day one anyway so i'm not really surprised
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
September 01 2010 14:50 GMT
#52
On September 01 2010 23:32 ltortoise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 23:23 Ichabod wrote:
Well, crap, this news makes me sad, I suppose they need to pay for the prize money, but I'd prefer commercials, I guess we just have to wait and see how this all turns out.


This is such crap.

The prize money is NOTIHNG to Gretech. 170,000 USD? Absolutely nothing.

http://www.gretech.com/eng/ir_finance.html

In 2003 they had a NET PROFIT of 5 million USD.

I can understand them trying to make a profit on this event, but they should be thinking more long term. This is doomed to fail.

No, 170k USD still matters. They are a business and to be honest 170k from 5 million is actually a pretty good chunk of money.
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Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia1237 Posts
September 01 2010 14:51 GMT
#53

While I think $20 is reasonable if it's in HD and the stream doesn't lag, I won't be buying it on principle because I feel that not having some kind of free stream is a huge step backwards in trying to grow e-sports for the international community. If they made a low quality stream available for free I'd probably pay the $20 to upgrade to HD.

Regarding the VODs, I might buy it if you could download and save it, but if you have to view it online and it stops working after one season then fuck that, not worth $30 to buy something you can't even keep.
Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is best. - Frank Zappa
piegasm
Profile Joined August 2010
United States266 Posts
September 01 2010 14:53 GMT
#54
I don't have any problem with them charging for it. Obviously I'd prefer free but you can't fault them for paying the bills. I add an extra $3-ish dollars a month to my cable bill to get The Tennis Channel. I don't see this as being any different.
Fadetowhite
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)302 Posts
September 01 2010 14:54 GMT
#55
if it was small fee i would but its so expensive ill just wait maybe someone restreams
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VanGarde
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden755 Posts
September 01 2010 14:56 GMT
#56
Obviously there should be a fee, anyone who claims they want e-sports to grow and then expect to get free streams and vods all the time should rethink if they actually want to help e-sports.

The pricing and business model for this is bad though, 20 for both live and vods would be reasonable.
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
ltortoise
Profile Joined August 2010
633 Posts
September 01 2010 14:58 GMT
#57
On September 01 2010 23:50 GogoKodo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 23:32 ltortoise wrote:
On September 01 2010 23:23 Ichabod wrote:
Well, crap, this news makes me sad, I suppose they need to pay for the prize money, but I'd prefer commercials, I guess we just have to wait and see how this all turns out.


This is such crap.

The prize money is NOTIHNG to Gretech. 170,000 USD? Absolutely nothing.

http://www.gretech.com/eng/ir_finance.html

In 2003 they had a NET PROFIT of 5 million USD.

I can understand them trying to make a profit on this event, but they should be thinking more long term. This is doomed to fail.

No, 170k USD still matters. They are a business and to be honest 170k from 5 million is actually a pretty good chunk of money.


Not when you can just as easily make a ton of it back due to advertising revenue alone just to the Koreans. Not many people are going to pay to watch this.
Cofo
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1388 Posts
September 01 2010 14:58 GMT
#58
Is there any sort of copyright/legal crap that prevents someone with tickets from re-streaming it?
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CScythe
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada810 Posts
September 01 2010 15:00 GMT
#59
Price is ridiculous, and of course they pull this shit just a couple days before the event.
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
September 01 2010 15:01 GMT
#60
On September 01 2010 23:56 VanGarde wrote:
Obviously there should be a fee, anyone who claims they want e-sports to grow and then expect to get free streams and vods all the time should rethink if they actually want to help e-sports.


Lack of free stream damages eports, how do you get new spectators? They should charge for HD stream, free stream give them advertising for they league/e-sport, and advertising money. Maybe they couldn't provide HD stream from Korea so they had decide to just charge for LQ stream.
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