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BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
September 15 2010 22:12 GMT
#941
On September 16 2010 07:00 sircuddles wrote:
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On September 16 2010 06:58 Siffer wrote:
My rating doesn't bother me too much; however, I think it is quite silly when I lose 15 points vs someone whose ELO is 200 higher than mine.


That's because your MMR has nothing to do with your rating/points.


And how does it work exactly?

I get the same problem
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
September 15 2010 22:18 GMT
#942
On September 16 2010 07:00 sircuddles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 06:58 Siffer wrote:
My rating doesn't bother me too much; however, I think it is quite silly when I lose 15 points vs someone whose ELO is 200 higher than mine.


That's because your MMR has nothing to do with your rating/points.


still sometimes very weird.

when i get 7 points for a guy 50 points higher im not exactly happy about it.

extrem case but happened 2 times to me. also it pretty much never happened the other way round. highest i got in recent times was 15 against a 1400 guy.
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Krazilec
Profile Joined May 2010
United States96 Posts
September 15 2010 22:37 GMT
#943
maybe its just me, but i would actually really like to see a restricted forum where awesome people can post and i can read.
I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS POTATO CHIP.....AND EAT IT!!!
Melancholia
Profile Joined March 2010
United States717 Posts
September 15 2010 22:44 GMT
#944
A backroom of sorts? Windows looking in, but guards at the door?
Hikko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1126 Posts
September 15 2010 22:49 GMT
#945
Platinum and wishing the system would go ahead and bump me up instead of putting me against bad diamond players where I get loong win streaks =/
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theBlues
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
El Salvador638 Posts
September 15 2010 22:59 GMT
#946
The different leagues aside, the point system is seriously flawed. I got promoted to diamond the first week the game came out after about 5 games. After that every single match I've played has been vs Diamond players and top platinum players. Every win I get is precious and still I get 7 points, 15 with the bonus pool, and sometimes I won't even get points thanks to drophackers. I am ranked 45 atm with 650 points. I have another friend who got into silver in the first week, has been playing and winning non stop and finally got to Diamond this week. We have played about 25 times and he has never been able to beat me (and I play Zerg) and he is ranked 4th of his division with 900 points.

Anyone who sees this would assume that he is a lot better player than I am, when its actually the way he ranked that gives him the advantage in points...
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happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
September 15 2010 23:12 GMT
#947
On September 16 2010 07:59 TheBlueMeaner wrote:
The different leagues aside, the point system is seriously flawed. I got promoted to diamond the first week the game came out after about 5 games. After that every single match I've played has been vs Diamond players and top platinum players. Every win I get is precious and still I get 7 points, 15 with the bonus pool, and sometimes I won't even get points thanks to drophackers. I am ranked 45 atm with 650 points. I have another friend who got into silver in the first week, has been playing and winning non stop and finally got to Diamond this week. We have played about 25 times and he has never been able to beat me (and I play Zerg) and he is ranked 4th of his division with 900 points.

Anyone who sees this would assume that he is a lot better player than I am, when its actually the way he ranked that gives him the advantage in points...


Are the games usually close? 650 ~ 900 when it comes to skill level. Also, if he's played a lot more games he's going to have more points, even if ur better.

DJDemon
Profile Joined June 2010
United States39 Posts
September 15 2010 23:28 GMT
#948
Diamond doesn't really mean much with the amount of dumb things people can do to win. I just fought a 1100 Diamond protoss who cannon rushed me. I lost but I haven't played in a week and I just responded so badly and made so many mistakes. After the game he whispered me and started BMing so I looked up his stats and for the last 10+ games that I looked at he only cannon rushed, I looked even further back and he still only cannon rushed. This guy got to 1100 Diamond by just cannon rushing every single game. It just annoys me that people like this can get so high rated.

His name was Listserv or something.
Darkn3ss
Profile Joined November 2009
United States717 Posts
September 16 2010 01:53 GMT
#949
On September 15 2010 04:04 Pandonetho wrote:
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Bronze: I play B.net custom games. I can give the computer a good fight.
Silver: I play Fastest Possible Map Ever.
Gold: I play BGH and some low maps. I know who Boxer is.
Platinum: Computer (E) rank
Low diamond (~300): D-
Mid diamond (~600): D
High diamond (~900): D+ through C
Top diamond (~1200): B


This isn't true at all. I got to D+ in SC BW but I don't think I could make it into Diamond at all in SC2. I'd probably be a gold player at best.


Did you get D+ with below 50% win-rate after like 100 games? XD
Dont quote me boy, cuz I aint saying shhh...
MonkeyKungFu
Profile Joined June 2010
Norway154 Posts
September 16 2010 01:59 GMT
#950
Diamond doesent mean anything, just met a guy on ladder who had done a double proxy gate on 8 in all the games in his match history and won most of them (against zerg 100% win). If the ladder would be a bo3, #L??## like that would be in gold league and everyone would be happy
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Macavity
Profile Joined July 2010
United States83 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 12:14:49
September 16 2010 12:13 GMT
#951
Some people I have noticed gotten into Diamond just by doing marine and bunker rushes. Good thing bunkers are being nerfed in build time.
Shady
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria115 Posts
September 16 2010 12:27 GMT
#952
On September 15 2010 05:53 purerythem wrote:
i was d- on iccup. now im 600 diamond. woopiedoodadoesn'tmeanjackshitday


yeah but guys, all of u should consider that you improved over the time (at least, you should have^^) AND it is a new game! Possibly youre just better in SC2 than in BW, for no exact reason!
Esper[mb]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States88 Posts
September 16 2010 12:50 GMT
#953
1k diamond here and i ended c-, this rating system seems pretty accurate. I think that 1200+ would only be c and C+, maybe 1300 would be b-, and 1400 would be b/b+
There's a fine line between looking good and looking gay
Siffer
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States467 Posts
September 16 2010 15:13 GMT
#954
On September 16 2010 07:00 sircuddles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 06:58 Siffer wrote:
My rating doesn't bother me too much; however, I think it is quite silly when I lose 15 points vs someone whose ELO is 200 higher than mine.


That's because your MMR has nothing to do with your rating/points.


Yes, I understand this. That is why I am saying that ELO isn't necessarily representative of someones skill. You have people like me, who take breaks and end up getting punished in the long run due to having a high MMR.
Hexaflex
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom70 Posts
September 16 2010 15:52 GMT
#955
People keep saying about putting in an 'elite' forum to weed out some of the... less useful stuff being posted, and tbh, why not?

Why not split the forums into bronze/silver, gold/plat and diamond/pro sections? The problem we have at the moment is that bronze players are posting things they found helpful and need to learn about, things diamonds just don't need to read. Similarly, a gold level player might not actually get anything useful out of a diamond player's post because it's going into a level of detail that he doesn't yet need to concentrate on.

This would let everyone post and talk about the things they need to discuss, without upsetting the other levels of player. By all means let all players read all forums, but ask them not to post above their 'level'. How well this would work depends on whether people would stick to the rules or not, but it's surely worth a try.

Btw I'm a mid-plat random player. I get annoyed by some of the random crap people post too, but equally I get a little riled by diamond players telling me that "back in BW you'd be E-rank". Maybe so, but there's no need to keep telling me I suck. I'm pretty much aware of the holes in my game already, thanks very much
True power!
MGren
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Sweden148 Posts
September 18 2010 17:40 GMT
#956
This is so true, you can get away with anything at low diamond It's definately E-. I am low diamond myself so I know how much we suck
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Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
September 18 2010 17:42 GMT
#957
I just played a 900 Diamond Protoss and he didn't even wall off against me. I'm Zerg. -.-
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Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
September 18 2010 17:48 GMT
#958
the bonus pool also rewards inactivity and allows some people to climb the ladder undeservedly by getting 5 wins a week which leads to point inflation and anybody being able to reach 1000 diamond..
The Show of a Lifetime
Zergxy
Profile Joined September 2010
Mexico25 Posts
September 18 2010 18:03 GMT
#959
dam i was D/D- on BW and right now I'm 700 Plat
tmzu
Profile Joined August 2010
58 Posts
September 18 2010 20:35 GMT
#960
I'm an 800 point diamond and i agree with this post. I am no where near good but low diamond is definetly where i belong as i rape platinum players pretty consistantly. I did play BW for a decent period of time and was B- ranked at my prime so i guess i have a better understanding of starcraft than the vast majority of sc2 players. However outside of certian build orders and other fairly basic understandings of sc2, i wouldnt ask somebody at my level for advice lol.
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