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KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
April 13 2011 05:38 GMT
#14901
JP just trololololed the whole stream.
Liquid FIGHTING!!!
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
April 13 2011 05:38 GMT
#14902
Why no gg JP?
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
April 13 2011 05:39 GMT
#14903
BW talk was real interesting. Was nice seeing Tyler and Day9 relive their BW days, almost liek the Artosis, Tasteless, Day9 footage from WCG 2005.
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
April 13 2011 05:39 GMT
#14904
Legendary outro JP
xLethargicax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States469 Posts
April 13 2011 05:39 GMT
#14905
Oh fuck yeah, I'm busting out the old ICCUP tonight. I can't wait to see how bad I am.

Damn, I really miss broodwar, what a beautiful, beautiful game.
DarthKhan
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada166 Posts
April 13 2011 05:39 GMT
#14906
JP has the eye of the tiger
HOLY CHECK G.G.
Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
April 13 2011 05:39 GMT
#14907
Great to hear about BW from Nony and Day9, brought so many good memories back from my childhood. Definantly in favor of an old-school SotG where they just talk about BW experiences, shit would be epic.
"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." I run the Smix Fanclub!
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
April 13 2011 05:39 GMT
#14908
Ok, that was probably my favorite SotG of all time. iNc totally changed my perspective on Nydus, and the BW talk at the end was amazing. <3
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Spicy Pepper
Profile Joined December 2009
United States632 Posts
April 13 2011 05:39 GMT
#14909
On April 13 2011 14:28 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 14:23 Spicy Pepper wrote:
On April 13 2011 14:17 Zzoram wrote:
Are any top Zerg players actually experimenting with Nydus? By experiment I mean playing a week's worth of games using Nydus every game that goes past 12 minutes. You can't figure out the best use for Nydus without using it a ton in a ton of different scenarios. Someone might stumble upon something good.

Of course they are. Just watch some streams. These guys make it sound like all Zergs are some narrow minded players, incapable of thinking up ideas like "hey you know what, maybe I should try other things".

No, this concept is beyond all professional zergs, but luckily we have Day9 to suggest hey there's Nyduses. Please get this revelation out to all pro zergs. They were not aware you could use Nyduses in other places on the map besides sneaking it into their opponent's base.

You don't need to be facetious. The argument you're making is the exact same that's always been made before a paradigm shift took place. From business to sports to ESPORTS. Zergs are mishandling key components to their game and they have been stubborn, just as Ps used to be and as Z were before that.

None of them have said the game is balanced or imbalanced. They've said that players have a lot of room to improve their game.

I'm sorry that using sarcasm has touched a nerve, but I'm no more facetious than the SOTG guys. The argument I'm making is just ONE argument. Have some pros zergs on the SOTG podcast that will advocate why zergs aren't imbalanced and what zergs should do. In none of my posts, did I personally argue that zerg is imbalanced.

What the SOTG guys have done is strawman the pro zergs' arguments about how zerg is imbalanced, and basically laughed at guys like Idra and Artosis when they came on to argue their points. The simplest way to show how pro zergs are wrong to argue how zerg is imbalanced is to have ONE show with multiple pro zergs that will argue why zerg IS NOT imbalanced.
DARKHYDRA
Profile Joined September 2006
United States303 Posts
April 13 2011 05:39 GMT
#14910
JP sotg ragequit LOLOL
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
April 13 2011 05:39 GMT
#14911
JP bm'd the stream.

fire_brand
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1123 Posts
April 13 2011 05:39 GMT
#14912
Ouch! That was such a great conversation! Bring it back JP!
Random player, pixel enthusiast, crappy illustrator, offlane/support
TheNihilist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States178 Posts
April 13 2011 05:39 GMT
#14913
I think we just got trolled by JP.
Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
April 13 2011 05:39 GMT
#14914
this bw talk makes me think that i've spent my childhood playing all the wrong games :O
TSM
Kiarip
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1835 Posts
April 13 2011 05:40 GMT
#14915
On April 13 2011 14:29 WniO wrote:
seriously... having 4 non zergs arguing that zerg is fine is really fucking annoying. i wonder how long the excuse will be that "Well you know, the game is, really young, so i mean you need to realize that things might be discovered, which will help zerg out." 1 year? 2 years? till HotS?

*EVEN IF* zergs units were perfectly balanced against toss/terrans units, it would still be fundamentally imbalanced due to the options t/p has against zerg. for instance,

There are 2 football teams, (american football.) Red and Blue. They both are completely even in all aspects, but team Red only has a third of the playcalls that the Blue team has. Red has to practice defending 3 times the amount of plays that blue has, and they only have a third of the plays that they can choose for offence... obviously blue will win more often than not.

Thats what starcraft 2 is like for zerg! They are team Red!



If you think that that's how fundamentally broken zerg is... Don't play zerg. but make sure that when you play VS zerg, you win EVERY SINGLE GAME, because it'd be a damn shame and embarrassment if you lost to the "red team."
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
April 13 2011 05:40 GMT
#14916
On April 13 2011 14:39 Jibba wrote:
Ok, that was probably my favorite SotG of all time. iNc totally changed my perspective on Nydus, and the BW talk at the end was amazing. <3

Agreed! There have been some which were 100x funnier, but this one was educatastical.
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NibbloniaN
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States377 Posts
April 13 2011 05:40 GMT
#14917
Loved the Broodwar nostalgia! Great episode
My folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. What am I, the pope?
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
April 13 2011 05:40 GMT
#14918
On April 13 2011 14:39 MrSexington wrote:
JP bm'd the stream.



He was lonely with all the BW talk going on .

Seriously, an sotg with things that should be applied in sc2 from BW would be amazing.
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SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
April 13 2011 05:40 GMT
#14919
Throwback SOTG sounds like the single greatest episode ever... I really love Broodwar and listening to these guys talk about it makes me so happy. Also all the sc2 player can see and learn what is mean't for all these guys. In Broodwar you played Starcraft cause you loved the game. SC2 seems to be driven by money and fame over peoples love for it.
I am Godzilla You are Japan
Gnax
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden490 Posts
April 13 2011 05:40 GMT
#14920
On April 13 2011 14:38 LightWireEX wrote:
lol wow jp definitely just closed the show cause he couldn't contribute anything, the start was crap and it finally starts getting good and it closes it off. bad move there.


No it was a good move, I can finally go to bed.
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