On March 10 2011 11:51 Consolidate wrote: Artosis was the highlight of the show by far despite not saying a single word.
SoTG has been getting pretty dull recently. I'm really starting to get tired of all the discussion involving tournament logistics and formats. I realize that JP and Geoff are into that sort of thing, but there are probably more interesting things to talk about.
All I got from the GSL talk was that Huk has bad builds, July is bad but got lucky because Nada is worse, and Nony isn't impressed with any of the protosses including MC.
To hear Tyler be so dismissive about the GSL players sounds strange because I feel like Nony is coasting hard on the goodwill of his past SC1 accomplishments. People forget that he is probably the weakest of all the Liquid players.
Have Day9 back on ASAP- the positive energy of the show is severely lacking without him.
Have to disagree about Tyler. He's had decent success in MLGs, sure he hasn't won but against the competition he's no slouch either. HuK looked really weak in code A, I'm terrible but I could see the flaws in his play, and round by round you could see his opponents catching onto what he did, and from then on it looked like they had no trouble countering it.
I think one reason we haven't seen more results from Tyler is that lately there's been a lull in big tournaments. If Tyler doesn't get results after TSL/NASL/MLG then you might have a point, but from what I've seen of Tyler's play he's hella smart.
What do you mean? He's failed to perform well at Dreamhack, Assembly, Machinima, FXO, etc. His only notable result is 4th at MLG Dallas.
Don't get me wrong, Tyler is a chill guy, but the way he talks about other players seems really presumptuous given the fact that nobody seems to be willing to call him on his inability to perform well in SC2.
On March 10 2011 11:59 iNcontroL wrote: I 100% agree. Tyler constantly flaunts his pets and the fact that he is "married" (haven't seen her since MLG).
I get pretty tired of his voice inflection too. It's a podcast you know? Put some god damn emotion into it.
He best figure out what he wants from SOTG real soon, or someone else will...
Couldn't have said it better myself. Ever since SOTG switched to video Tyler has been doing little but showing his ferrets off for the camera, much to the chagrin of the other guests on the show and the SC2 community in general.
He needs to clean up his act and adopt a cat soon, or someone else will.
On March 10 2011 12:37 Teivospy wrote: Team Liquid: where if you're not really really really really really nice and gg at the end of each sentence jerks will call you out for being BM
On March 10 2011 12:37 Teivospy wrote: Team Liquid: where if you're not really really really really really nice and gg at the end of each sentence jerks will call you out for being BM
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He's just being a fanboy. Most people on this site don't have the guts to call tyler out or dare criticize the great tyler and worship him like some god.
On March 10 2011 12:37 Teivospy wrote: Team Liquid: where if you're not really really really really really nice and gg at the end of each sentence jerks will call you out for being BM
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He's just being a fanboy. Most people on this site don't have the guts to call tyler out and worship him like some god.
Team Liquid: where if you don't agree with someone's opinion they'll call you a fanboy that worships false idols
On March 10 2011 12:37 Teivospy wrote: Team Liquid: where if you're not really really really really really nice and gg at the end of each sentence jerks will call you out for being BM
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He's just being a fanboy. Most people on this site don't have the guts to call tyler out and worship him like some god.
Team Liquid: where if you don't agree with someone's opinion they'll call you a fanboy that worships false idols
Team Liquid: where if people don't like hearing the truth, they start a post with Team Liquid: followed by a witty remark they come up with.
The slow DL speeds for the mp3 are slightly annoying when you are used to getting everything lightning fast, but really it's non-issue. I usually don't even dl it, just stream the audio.
On March 10 2011 11:51 Consolidate wrote: Artosis was the highlight of the show by far despite not saying a single word.
SoTG has been getting pretty dull recently. I'm really starting to get tired of all the discussion involving tournament logistics and formats. I realize that JP and Geoff are into that sort of thing, but there are probably more interesting things to talk about.
All I got from the GSL talk was that Huk has bad builds, July is bad but got lucky because Nada is worse, and Nony isn't impressed with any of the protosses including MC.
To hear Tyler be so dismissive about the GSL players sounds strange because I feel like Nony is coasting hard on the goodwill of his past SC1 accomplishments. People forget that he is probably the weakest of all the Liquid players.
Have Day9 back on ASAP- the positive energy of the show is severely lacking without him.
Have to disagree about Tyler. He's had decent success in MLGs, sure he hasn't won but against the competition he's no slouch either. HuK looked really weak in code A, I'm terrible but I could see the flaws in his play, and round by round you could see his opponents catching onto what he did, and from then on it looked like they had no trouble countering it. .
Tyler is what you call a theory crafter. Watches games and talks shit about others players when he can't apply all the things he criticizes in his own games so never wins tourneys. There was that old thread with tyler watching huk's stream and criticizing him like mad while watching. He got on huk's case about using 1 pylon to power all his gates which I agree is bad, but then at assembly, tyler did the same damn thing in one his games. So he doesn't practice what he preaches.
Then he talks shit about the koreans play at iem when tyler could only dream of being as good as them. I'm so hoping strelock demolishes tyler at tsl 3. He's by far my least favourite liquid player. I consider him as bm as idra.
is this irony or are you really being serious? you are doing to me exactly what i do to the players haha.
i've already put my knowledge into practice in sc1. everyone had access to all the broadcasts of pro games. i privately studied them and critiqued them the same way i did the IEM reps on my stream. then i practiced a shitload and put my knowledge into play. then i became the best non-korean sc player in the world.
"he doesn't practice what he preaches" means you don't believe in the advice you're giving. it doesn't mean you have knowledge but not the ability to use it. if you want to critique my sc2 career, there's honestly only one way to do it: i dont practice enough. i lack discipline. i've said many times that i dont practice in custom games. all of the custom games in my match history are from tournaments. so if you take 60 seconds to look up all my accounts on sc2ranks (NA, EU and KR), you'll find i've played just a bit over 700 ladder games, and that's all the games i've played. i dont even 2v2/3v3/4v4 at all. and a large chunk of those games aren't real practice. i brush up for a tournament and then get out of shape. then i gotta take 30-50 games to brush up again. it's honestly fucking pathetic.
and i know the obvious response to all this is "either start practicing and prove that you're so good or shut up." yeah, well, i havent been saying that im a better player. i might say that i know better. hell, even then, im not that strong about it. i often say things like "it seems to me" or "it feels like" or "i wish i could see them do this other thing and see if it would have been better" or "i didnt really like that, i'd rather try this other way first." and when i do have a strong opinion, i can say from experience that 99% of the time, if the player was sitting next to me, he'd agree with me. so i dont really feel the need to shut up. i have useful things toi say!
but anyway, yeah, bottom line is you gotta demonstrate your knowledge. there's no way around it. and not just in custom and ladder games that no one sees, or even in small tournaments. you gotta do it at big fucking tournaments. and you cant rely on having demonstrated it in SC1, hoping that everyone will just take your word for it that you're not feeding them bullshit about SC2. no way that would ever fly. OH WAIT!! Day[9]. mind fucking blown
Tyler is totally BM man, how dare he make a negative judgment on someone's play. Totally coasting on his BW success, almost as bad as that fricking Day[9] clown. I mean what the hell has that guy done in the last few years and yet people take his word as gospel, what a fucking joke.
(I hope people get the sarcasm here... Tyler <3)
edit: Haha, 3 seconds after Tyler made the same point....
On March 10 2011 11:51 Consolidate wrote: Artosis was the highlight of the show by far despite not saying a single word.
SoTG has been getting pretty dull recently. I'm really starting to get tired of all the discussion involving tournament logistics and formats. I realize that JP and Geoff are into that sort of thing, but there are probably more interesting things to talk about.
All I got from the GSL talk was that Huk has bad builds, July is bad but got lucky because Nada is worse, and Nony isn't impressed with any of the protosses including MC.
To hear Tyler be so dismissive about the GSL players sounds strange because I feel like Nony is coasting hard on the goodwill of his past SC1 accomplishments. People forget that he is probably the weakest of all the Liquid players.
Have Day9 back on ASAP- the positive energy of the show is severely lacking without him.
Have to disagree about Tyler. He's had decent success in MLGs, sure he hasn't won but against the competition he's no slouch either. HuK looked really weak in code A, I'm terrible but I could see the flaws in his play, and round by round you could see his opponents catching onto what he did, and from then on it looked like they had no trouble countering it. .
Tyler is what you call a theory crafter. Watches games and talks shit about others players when he can't apply all the things he criticizes in his own games so never wins tourneys. There was that old thread with tyler watching huk's stream and criticizing him like mad while watching. He got on huk's case about using 1 pylon to power all his gates which I agree is bad, but then at assembly, tyler did the same damn thing in one of his games. So he doesn't practice what he preaches.
Then he talks shit about the koreans play at iem when tyler could only dream of being as good as them. I'm so hoping strelock demolishes tyler at tsl 3. He's by far my least favourite liquid player and progamer in general. I consider him as bm as idra.
Congratulations Canucklehead, in a thread full of shitty posts you've made one the shittiest one!
I mean, I honestly don't give two fucks if you like Tyler or not, but my god, how fucking wrong can one post be.
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