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xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
February 09 2011 23:59 GMT
#9601
On February 10 2011 08:16 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Sigh nevermind man. I now remember why I hate this thread and don't visit it anymore.

This is the same reason why I love reading this thread. :D
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
February 10 2011 00:05 GMT
#9602
Dunno if this has been posted yet, but iNcontrol's random rant against Artosis in that thread is infinitely more funny when put into verbal words.

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090310092136152

The part about Vultures was pure gold. Heck, the entire post is quite relevant nowadays considering that despite BW's "balance," people can still find stuff to QQ about.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-10 00:12:37
February 10 2011 00:12 GMT
#9603
On February 10 2011 08:59 xtfftc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2011 08:16 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Sigh nevermind man. I now remember why I hate this thread and don't visit it anymore.

This is the same reason why I love reading this thread. :D


My favourite part is no matter how ridiculous Inc's parodies of the posts in this thread are, some mother fucker always comes out and one ups him by genuinely being just that much more of a humourless ass.
Meyer
Profile Joined February 2011
1 Post
February 10 2011 00:12 GMT
#9604
I have no idea what their BW history is like, but the few times Artosis and Incontrol have faced off in an argument on SOTG Artosis has come across infinitely smarter and his arguments more well reasoned despite his apparent predisposition to being a huge balance whiner. Go back and listen to the Shakuras Plateau and the Phoenix/Infestor ptr arguments for examples.

incontrol is pretty funny...in an obvious in your face out to offend kind of way but even in their style of humour artosis is more clever the guy just kills me on gsl
DISHU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom348 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-10 00:22:31
February 10 2011 00:13 GMT
#9605
Is it me or is Incontrol getting less and less funny as these podcast increase? I think it’s because he is trying to force the jokes it’s not organic.

Also another little problem is JP. he keep repeating stuff and really bashing every joke/comment over the head (announcement of an announcement) comes to mind and when Incontrol is not making jokes he will keep commenting on it and asking why he is not making jokes the same goes with stuff likeTyler's chilling .

so mix it up JP and say new thing ! Incontrol relax and just let it happen ! But these are all little thing really like the show keep it up.
Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. But what are timeflies and why do they like an arrow?
RevRich
Profile Joined February 2011
United States218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-10 00:19:58
February 10 2011 00:18 GMT
#9606
On February 10 2011 09:13 DISHU wrote:
Is it me or is Incontrol getting less and less funny as these podcast increase? I think it’s because he is trying to force the jokes it’s not organic.

Also another little problem is JP. he keep repeating stuff and really bashing every joke/comment over the head (announcement of an announcement) comes to mind and when Incontrol is not making jokes or something he will keep commenting like with Tyler chilling .

so mix it up and say new thing ! Incontrol relax and just let it happen ! But these are all little thing really like the show keep it up.


I have to agree with this sentiment. I was starting to feel like incontrol was trying WAY too hard last night. Also, the announcement of an announcement stuff stopped being funny weeks ago.

I did, however, enjoy MLG-Sundance shedding some light on how MLG works and the plans for this season and beyond.
MrSnibbles
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom267 Posts
February 10 2011 00:22 GMT
#9607
On February 10 2011 09:13 DISHU wrote:

Also another little problem is JP.




So the shows main host is the problem?

Good going......
Thank you, based god.
DISHU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom348 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-10 00:53:46
February 10 2011 00:41 GMT
#9608
So you take one line totally out of context come on mate if you’re not going to bother to read what my little problem with him is there is really no point in me stating all his good qualities and why he makes a good host.
Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. But what are timeflies and why do they like an arrow?
EerieNewb
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Poland73 Posts
February 10 2011 01:03 GMT
#9609
Listening to the latest podcast I appreciate how on SoTG I can usually listen to progamer-nerds talking rather than bussinessman-entrepreneur, because when making a point when answering a question they usually follow it up with logical, clear arguements not some "inspirational" politician-like babble. But still, ups for Sundance for making all of this .
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
February 10 2011 01:56 GMT
#9610
i love that jp has started upping the preshow. there's actually too much awesome content in the community, i don't have time for it all and playing/uploading my own content
The universe created an audience for itself.
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
February 10 2011 02:36 GMT
#9611
I agree Sundance was pretty cool overall. I'm a bit disappointed he never answered Tyler's question about the prize pool but it sort of makes sense. I think from his other comments it's safe to assume that he doesn't expect StarCraft to become really big immediately just because it's 2011 now. Instead, his plan seems to be to wait for it to grow up and then, by the end of the year, to have the scene ready for one really really massive tournament. This is probably what he is selling to the sponsors at the moment - a narrative that will grow up into this big event.

If anything, this is the only proper argument in defence of extended series. He doesn't view the tournaments as single events but as qualifications for the big tournament. So, although getting rid of the extended series would make the separate events more exciting, sticking with it makes some sense if you view every tournament from the points system perspective.

Perhaps I am totally wrong but both of these make sense from a business perspective and I think Sundance has a good plan for the future. And although what's good for the business is often bad for players and viewers, I don't think this is the case here - for now it's looking pretty good.

On February 10 2011 09:12 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2011 08:59 xtfftc wrote:
On February 10 2011 08:16 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Sigh nevermind man. I now remember why I hate this thread and don't visit it anymore.

This is the same reason why I love reading this thread. :D


My favourite part is no matter how ridiculous Inc's parodies of the posts in this thread are, some mother fucker always comes out and one ups him by genuinely being just that much more of a humourless ass.

Awwww.
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
February 10 2011 03:18 GMT
#9612
He didn't answer the question directly but I think he wanted people to understand that he needed a gigantic prize pool to show the sponsors and say "Hey, this is the big event, we are going to have big names here. Guaranteed."

I agree that he went on a tangent and wasn't very clear about it but that's what I got out of it. I also really like Sundance from what I've heard in this interview.
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
February 10 2011 05:14 GMT
#9613
Has anyone made a playlist of the sotg pre show i think ill try to sigh
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
February 10 2011 05:16 GMT
#9614
K done
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-10 05:46:04
February 10 2011 05:45 GMT
#9615
On February 10 2011 07:59 telfire wrote:
The beginning of this episode was really great, I love hearin from that guy and it's good to know he's so close to the gamer community.

Incontrol, you have no logic lol. The thread you were going on about is a perfect example of why Artosis is the right person to be talking about balance and not some crass clown like yourself.

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=70545 -- Artosis put out a logical debate and plain and simple, got trolled. And now InControl is using the thread as an example of why Artosis shouldn't talk about balance. WHAT? You guys put forth no logic or reasoning to why Artosis shouldn't be talking about balance, you're acting like it's just obvious. It's not, their arguments are logical and if you want to counter them COUNTER THE ARGMENTS.

I will trust Artosis' opinion a million times before yours because he backs it up with logic and points instead of 'LOLOOOOL HE DOESNT KNOW WHAT AUDACITY IS SO THAT MAKES HIM BAD AT STARCRAFT'.


Um what exactly about artosis' post was logical? It was a purely opinionated rant on why a single map is imbalanced. He says in the post not to look at Korean statistics when talking about balance, but then guess what he does HE BRINGS UP KOREAN STATISTICS about the top Terran players dominance at that period of time.

Honestly it's a well known fact that on TL, that Artosis and IdrA cry imbalance far too often.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
February 10 2011 05:50 GMT
#9616
On February 10 2011 14:45 DonKey_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2011 07:59 telfire wrote:
The beginning of this episode was really great, I love hearin from that guy and it's good to know he's so close to the gamer community.

Incontrol, you have no logic lol. The thread you were going on about is a perfect example of why Artosis is the right person to be talking about balance and not some crass clown like yourself.

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=70545 -- Artosis put out a logical debate and plain and simple, got trolled. And now InControl is using the thread as an example of why Artosis shouldn't talk about balance. WHAT? You guys put forth no logic or reasoning to why Artosis shouldn't be talking about balance, you're acting like it's just obvious. It's not, their arguments are logical and if you want to counter them COUNTER THE ARGMENTS.

I will trust Artosis' opinion a million times before yours because he backs it up with logic and points instead of 'LOLOOOOL HE DOESNT KNOW WHAT AUDACITY IS SO THAT MAKES HIM BAD AT STARCRAFT'.


Um what exactly about artosis' post was logical? It was a purely opinionated rant on why a single map is imbalanced. He says in the post not to look at Korean statistics when talking about balance, but then guess what he does HE BRINGS UP KOREAN STATISTICS about the top Terran players dominance at that period of time.

Honestly it's a well known fact that on TL, that Artosis and IdrA cry imbalance far too often.


Yes, his argument was that the Korean statistics we normally use are misleading. In order to demonstrate this point, he obviously will have to bring up some Korean statistics. He brought up the Korean statistics to show a famous example from the past where they definitely don't tell the whole story. How did you not get that from his post?
skating
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
February 10 2011 05:53 GMT
#9617
On February 10 2011 14:50 huameng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2011 14:45 DonKey_ wrote:
On February 10 2011 07:59 telfire wrote:
The beginning of this episode was really great, I love hearin from that guy and it's good to know he's so close to the gamer community.

Incontrol, you have no logic lol. The thread you were going on about is a perfect example of why Artosis is the right person to be talking about balance and not some crass clown like yourself.

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=70545 -- Artosis put out a logical debate and plain and simple, got trolled. And now InControl is using the thread as an example of why Artosis shouldn't talk about balance. WHAT? You guys put forth no logic or reasoning to why Artosis shouldn't be talking about balance, you're acting like it's just obvious. It's not, their arguments are logical and if you want to counter them COUNTER THE ARGMENTS.

I will trust Artosis' opinion a million times before yours because he backs it up with logic and points instead of 'LOLOOOOL HE DOESNT KNOW WHAT AUDACITY IS SO THAT MAKES HIM BAD AT STARCRAFT'.


Um what exactly about artosis' post was logical? It was a purely opinionated rant on why a single map is imbalanced. He says in the post not to look at Korean statistics when talking about balance, but then guess what he does HE BRINGS UP KOREAN STATISTICS about the top Terran players dominance at that period of time.

Honestly it's a well known fact that on TL, that Artosis and IdrA cry imbalance far too often.


Yes, his argument was that the Korean statistics we normally use are misleading. In order to demonstrate this point, he obviously will have to bring up some Korean statistics. He brought up the Korean statistics to show a famous example from the past where they definitely don't tell the whole story. How did you not get that from his post?


Ok I guess I'm missing the point where he proved something. What was it?
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
IndridCold
Profile Joined August 2010
United States385 Posts
February 10 2011 07:24 GMT
#9618
I really liked what i heard from the MLG-sundance guy. Was interesting even though incontrol kept bashing him haha. I liked his "we didn't have the money to add starcraft in the middle of our season, but we did it anyway" Really shows that he saw the possibility of starcraft being huge in the upcoming season.
Evil Geniuses needs a LoL team.... Pobelter/Altec fan
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
February 10 2011 07:31 GMT
#9619
LOL fucking awesome they're sponsoring players now like the halo commercials :D.
i didn't like sundance's stance in terms of how he was saying things but i really love sundance and i liked what he said
the cursing was (kinda childish) really nice in terms of his stance on things. seeing the real sundance and not the guy on camera is interesting
I miss when he casted halo
definitely gonna go to the west coast event, maybe Cbus.
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
MIKster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany333 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-10 08:21:21
February 10 2011 08:20 GMT
#9620
I really couldn't bare Sundance after listening 30 minutes into the podcast. They way he never gave direct answers and beat around the bush… it hurt my brains. I kind of understand that a CEO can’t make a yes or no statement on subjects the company hasn’t decided on yet. But then not just drift off into 3 minute monologues about how everybody has to stick together and make it happen! We got the first time that you value the community or let’s say free help from them. And as a CEO… does he swear as much when he has a meeting with his sponsors? Or does he think that gamers talk that way all the time?
Munich StarCraft & BarCraft | www.munich-starcraft.de
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