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Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
September 19 2012 12:54 GMT
#49721
Kaelaris is looking to launch a European State of the Game



Hopefully a little healthy competition will give this show the kick in the pants that it desperately needs.
"En taro adun, Executor."
Felnarion
Profile Joined December 2011
442 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 13:09:11
September 19 2012 13:08 GMT
#49722
I think the frustration isn't with JP, or any of the hosts specifically. I think a lot of people misunderstand and are quick to retaliate with "What, you think they owe you a show" On one hand, you have frustration from certain people in the audience. And on the other hand you have people who are quick to shoot them down as entitled children.

It's not like that.

I believe JP and the other guys want to do the show. Also I believe the crowd wants to see it. The problem is where those two meet. I think the hosts (thanks guys) want to do a more professional show. Partially out of pride, and partially for sponsorship money (not necessarily for yourselves, don't take that wrong). They just wanna make a good show, and they're (probably mostly JP?) are working toward that, but deals are falling through.

The frustrated community fans just want a chilled, relaxed, atmosphere where a few players/personalities come together with JP and just talk. Talk about the scene, talk about strategy, talk about you know, whatever. This kind of show doesn't require a lot of pre-planning and effort. I just don't think it's what the hosts want the show to be.

But it's what the frustrated people want. That's why they're frustrated. They're saying "How can it be so hard to just find a free couple hours and sit around and talk?"

But the hosts are saying "We want to make awesome content, without a bunch of fluff, it takes time, time we currently don't have"

Tell me if I'm wrong
enCore-
Profile Joined July 2010
98 Posts
September 20 2012 12:56 GMT
#49723
On September 19 2012 22:08 Felnarion wrote:
But the hosts are saying "We want to make awesome content, without a bunch of fluff, it takes time, time we currently don't have"

Tell me if I'm wrong


You're wrong. Idra and Incontrol have the time to be on OneMoreGame regularily. JP has the time to play and stream different roleplaying games. They should have the time, and I suspect it's just JP not wanting to focus on it right now.
I would love for the show to finally come back, but it's been a long time and I'm slowly losing interest.
Anta
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany434 Posts
September 20 2012 12:59 GMT
#49724
dafuq!

can't be that hard to make at least one show per month 8[
"In short: stop bitching, change your tampons and up your game." mad respect to CloudNineLabs.com http://i.imgur.com/g5KGz.jpg ! I love Dreamhack!
Biggun69
Profile Joined December 2010
187 Posts
September 20 2012 13:15 GMT
#49725
JP PLEASE GIVE US A SHOW
hYrasD
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany164 Posts
September 20 2012 13:18 GMT
#49726
World 1st Problem. U have a Show and the community love the show. But ur to lazy to focus on it(Yeah ur to busy with other stuff, streaming some stupid WoW Raids).Just another example of people wasting thier potential. SotG is(was) the Esports/SC Show with the highest viewer base, but that is probably not enough. for some people.

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pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3396 Posts
September 20 2012 13:21 GMT
#49727
On September 19 2012 21:54 Chriscras wrote:
Kaelaris is looking to launch a European State of the Game

https://twitter.com/kaelaris/status/248350079633731585

Hopefully a little healthy competition will give this show the kick in the pants that it desperately needs.

That's never going to work.
Without Grubby (who's in Korea) there's not even 10% of the State of the Game star-power in Europe.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
September 20 2012 13:27 GMT
#49728
On September 20 2012 22:21 pmp10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 21:54 Chriscras wrote:
Kaelaris is looking to launch a European State of the Game

https://twitter.com/kaelaris/status/248350079633731585

Hopefully a little healthy competition will give this show the kick in the pants that it desperately needs.

That's never going to work.
Without Grubby (who's in Korea) there's not even 10% of the State of the Game star-power in Europe.


Get White-Ra in and you are guaranteed to have a good show. Get HasuObs in for the analysis part, he is really good with stuff like that. Then you can get Apollo as another pillar.
Regular guests could be guys like Totalbiscuit, 2gd and other community persons (Carmac for example) and of course there are a lot of great players who all speak English.
Presenting like one new up&coming player per show could be really cool as well because there are a lot of good new players who nobody really nows much about, for example get JohnnyRecco, Sortof, Vortix.

If someone like Kaelaris would invest the time to set up an European SotG he could easily make an awesome show. It just takes a huge commitment of time and work to set everything up.
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
September 20 2012 13:28 GMT
#49729
On September 20 2012 22:21 pmp10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 21:54 Chriscras wrote:
Kaelaris is looking to launch a European State of the Game

https://twitter.com/kaelaris/status/248350079633731585

Hopefully a little healthy competition will give this show the kick in the pants that it desperately needs.

That's never going to work.
Without Grubby (who's in Korea) there's not even 10% of the State of the Game star-power in Europe.

Well if you could have like a European SOTG with the help of the GD studio, having people like Apollo and 2GD I think it has potential. It won't be the same as this SOTG though. So it's probably wrong to call it SOTG.

Maybe Totalbiscuit.. Europe has only a few people who can fit into the entertainment side of this scene, but that doesn't mean it cannot work.
Ostby
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway38 Posts
September 20 2012 13:31 GMT
#49730
On September 20 2012 22:18 hYrasD wrote:
World 1st Problem. U have a Show and the community love the show. But ur to lazy to focus on it(Yeah ur to busy with other stuff, streaming some stupid WoW Raids).Just another example of people wasting thier potential. SotG is(was) the Esports/SC Show with the highest viewer base, but that is probably not enough. for some people.


This!
I would like to know the real reason why there is no Sotg. Time is not an issue for JP anymore, same goes for the pillars.
Either JP is lazy or greedy. Cant see any other reason.

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Bulkers
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland509 Posts
September 20 2012 13:36 GMT
#49731
JP took scene in a blast, hook up with day9 at release then job at MLG and SotG, he doesnt need it anymore. It sad but true, SotG made JP who he is in the scene, now when he establish himself, gets paid, he doesnt need to do it anymore.

I wont miss SotG tbh, for me show was never about serious talk about accual state of the game, I listen/watch it mainly for laughs that iNcontrol provide (thank you sir) and day9 when he was regual on the show and had time for SotG. When show was audio only and regular cast was on it, that was the best time for SotG, was made purely from passion. Then sponsors came, all the shit with MLG and JP being MLG employe ect., then Day9 drop out. Imo its for the best...RIP SOTG
lim1017
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1278 Posts
September 20 2012 13:44 GMT
#49732
On September 20 2012 22:36 Bulkers wrote:
JP took scene in a blast, hook up with day9 at release then job at MLG and SotG, he doesnt need it anymore. It sad but true, SotG made JP who he is in the scene, now when he establish himself, gets paid, he doesnt need to do it anymore.

I wont miss SotG tbh, for me show was never about serious talk about accual state of the game, I listen/watch it mainly for laughs that iNcontrol provide (thank you sir) and day9 when he was regual on the show and had time for SotG. When show was audio only and regular cast was on it, that was the best time for SotG, was made purely from passion. Then sponsors came, all the shit with MLG and JP being MLG employe ect., then Day9 drop out. Imo its for the best...RIP SOTG


Pretty sure jp needs this show now more then ever cause he left MLG.... i only wonder why they cant just do SotG while were awaiting the resolution to its sponsorship deal
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
September 20 2012 13:45 GMT
#49733
On September 20 2012 22:31 Ostby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 22:18 hYrasD wrote:
World 1st Problem. U have a Show and the community love the show. But ur to lazy to focus on it(Yeah ur to busy with other stuff, streaming some stupid WoW Raids).Just another example of people wasting thier potential. SotG is(was) the Esports/SC Show with the highest viewer base, but that is probably not enough. for some people.


This!
I would like to know the real reason why there is no Sotg. Time is not an issue for JP anymore, same goes for the pillars.
Either JP is lazy or greedy. Cant see any other reason.


Or maybe you could read the thread and watch the video JP recently posted. I know I know, that would require you to make an intelligent and informed statement, when it's more fun to just insult someone and get a reaction from people .
Petrone
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden47 Posts
September 20 2012 14:01 GMT
#49734
On September 20 2012 22:31 Ostby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 22:18 hYrasD wrote:
World 1st Problem. U have a Show and the community love the show. But ur to lazy to focus on it(Yeah ur to busy with other stuff, streaming some stupid WoW Raids).Just another example of people wasting thier potential. SotG is(was) the Esports/SC Show with the highest viewer base, but that is probably not enough. for some people.


This!
I would like to know the real reason why there is no Sotg. Time is not an issue for JP anymore, same goes for the pillars.
Either JP is lazy or greedy. Cant see any other reason.


I like how people call out others when they have absolutely no idea what their talking about. Do you know JP personally? If not then you are not in a position to claim that he was the reason why the show was cancelled. Maybe it's not even about him? Calling people out for being lazy or greedy is just plain stupid if you don't have all the facts. This just spreads rumors that places people in a bad light for no reason.

This problem has came up very much recently and it sickens me. Thanks to baseless claims by few the rest of us looks stupid as well and we might miss out of good content from the talent we have because we discourage them.
Nu blir vi farliga!
Ostby
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway38 Posts
September 20 2012 14:59 GMT
#49735

I like how people call out others when they have absolutely no idea what their talking about. Do you know JP personally? If not then you are not in a position to claim that he was the reason why the show was cancelled. Maybe it's not even about him? Calling people out for being lazy or greedy is just plain stupid if you don't have all the facts. This just spreads rumors that places people in a bad light for no reason.

This problem has came up very much recently and it sickens me. Thanks to baseless claims by few the rest of us looks stupid as well and we might miss out of good content from the talent we have because we discourage them.


All I and alot of others want, is a reason why our favorite show is gone. And when there is no reason, ofc there will be speculation and rumors.

I know my statement came out a bit harsh, but it is the word on the street.
JP could easily explained the situation to people, but he doesnt. Instead he streams old wow achievements and makes a new dailyshow where he reads results from liquipedia.
Even in his recent video "about me", there is not one mention about SotG. But he states that there will be alot of wow streaming in the future.
You guys have to understand that this makes SotG fans frustrated.
Achaia
Profile Joined July 2010
United States643 Posts
September 20 2012 15:08 GMT
#49736
I kind of wish that a mod would just close this thread finally. It's clear that SotG is not coming back and it seems silly that people are still bitching about it after half a year. Just let it go guys, there's plenty of other content out there. Nothing quite as splendid as SotG was in it's hay day, but trying to brow beat JP into producing a show he's lost interest in isn't going to work lol.
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RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
September 20 2012 15:18 GMT
#49737
Nobody ever cared about JP, we only cared about the other people, all he did was produce and organise it. It's not hard to do. We just need someone else to do it properly.
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
September 20 2012 15:24 GMT
#49738
On September 20 2012 21:56 enCore- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 22:08 Felnarion wrote:
But the hosts are saying "We want to make awesome content, without a bunch of fluff, it takes time, time we currently don't have"

Tell me if I'm wrong


You're wrong. Idra and Incontrol have the time to be on OneMoreGame regularily. JP has the time to play and stream different roleplaying games. They should have the time, and I suspect it's just JP not wanting to focus on it right now.
I would love for the show to finally come back, but it's been a long time and I'm slowly losing interest.


The big difference I think is, they are getting paid for doing ITG. The exposure they got from SOTG wasnt really worth it for them. I dont have the viewer numbers (another big problem JP not catering to the eu viewers, I mean 4am or 5am in central europe wont bring huge viewercounts) but Idra or Incontrol prob get more viewers just streaming.
Panthae
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada205 Posts
September 20 2012 15:31 GMT
#49739
Anyone else feel cheated out of a drunk episode this season? Man did those make my month... Hahaha
For Aïur?
eltese
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden369 Posts
September 20 2012 15:32 GMT
#49740
Seriously how fucking stupid are you guys? He HAS stated the reason multiple fucking times. He even linked you to a youtube video in which he also explains the reasons. But it seems you are actually to lazy to be bothered to look like 2 pages back to find any kind of explanation.


State of the game was contacted a while back about getting a great deal ( I do not know what that deal pertains) and since then it has been in motion. As this is a big company their dealing with (which they will not name, but I think it is fair to suspect CBS which has Giantbomb) things do not move that fast when it has to be looked over by legal and there are a lot of different things to sort through.

In summary : They will be back. They will be funded.

CHILL THE FUCK OUT
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