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iNcontroL
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this thread never disappoints Judgements coming from folk who actually have no fucking clue (looking at you quitodian/starstruck) and then white knights or fanboys either getting their panties in a bunch over defending / attacking people.
I am 10x the player that avilo is.. cherry picking 1 tourney where we both played different people was dumb so I issued a challenge publicly and he dodged. One show match wouldn't prove anything but it'd be nice to take some of his money and give him a reason to shut the fuck up for once.
If I could do that with some of you I would do the same but for now you can sit in this thread after each show and act like vultures.
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On June 20 2012 23:26 iNcontroL wrote:this thread never disappoints  Judgements coming from folk who actually have no fucking clue (looking at you quitodian/starstruck) .
not exactly impressed with you either
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Thanks for taking the time to talk about the up and coming players a bit on last nights SotG iNcontrol! I'm currently working on a project that will be dedicated to the up and coming scene (players/teams/leagues) but it is great to see a couple people take the time to spread the word and try and get more awareness!
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Tried to warn you. Leave serious terran balance discussion to people with a little wider perspective. In the meantime you can start "Eat the terrans association". 
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iNcontroL
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On June 20 2012 23:29 Quotidian wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 23:26 iNcontroL wrote:this thread never disappoints  Judgements coming from folk who actually have no fucking clue (looking at you quitodian/starstruck) . not exactly impressed with you either
Obviously lol, you have been posting about how much you aren't impressed by me all over this forum.. get over it.
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On June 20 2012 23:26 iNcontroL wrote:this thread never disappoints  Judgements coming from folk who actually have no fucking clue (looking at you quitodian/starstruck) and then white knights or fanboys either getting their panties in a bunch over defending / attacking people. I am 10x the player that avilo is.. cherry picking 1 tourney where we both played different people was dumb so I issued a challenge publicly and he dodged. One show match wouldn't prove anything but it'd be nice to take some of his money and give him a reason to shut the fuck up for once. If I could do that with some of you I would do the same but for now you can sit in this thread after each show and act like vultures.
I actually think a Bo5/Bo7 between you and Avilo would be pretty close. I don't feel confident to call it either way, but it would be a nice series to watch for sure.
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iNcontroL
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you should front him the money then?
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On June 20 2012 23:37 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 23:29 Quotidian wrote:On June 20 2012 23:26 iNcontroL wrote:this thread never disappoints  Judgements coming from folk who actually have no fucking clue (looking at you quitodian/starstruck) . not exactly impressed with you either Obviously lol, you have been posting about how much you aren't impressed by me all over this forum.. get over it.
how about you get over yourself? You're not as big of a deal as you think you are. The way you people are acting against certain players on the podcast is nothing but petty. None of you, not even Idra, is 10x the player of anyone in high masters, that much is blatantly obvious at this point.
Anyway, hope the podcast improves soon. Sad to see it go down the (archon) toilet like this
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First of all thanks for great show. I really enjoy listeing to it, even though I'm gold league player (for a year) atm.
I really like'd iNcontrol's commentary and contribution to Mr.Bitter's 12 weeks with pro's show, learned to play zerg that way myself and I'm pretty sure hell of a lot more people too. That's basicly the main reason I find time to listen to this show. Keep up the good work, all of you at SOTG. It's good to have people contributin like this to the scene and game we all love and hate so much.
JP could please make better build order for your cute little boxes around videoscreens, it's sort of annoying sometimes 
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Great show as always.
I see a lot of people are pissed of by the TvZ discussion, but that's how it's always been when it comes to Terran lol. It's imposible to have a debate without a pro Terran player and 9 times out of 10 it's "learn 2 play" or "give it time" but when it comes to Z or P it's complaining time haha.
It's not their job to be fair or analize anything, just give their opinios and make a fun show. If you want opinions on balance listen to the top players, watch the games and come to your own conclusions.
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All these Terran players need to get over themselves. I bet they all found it funny when Zerg was UP and Idra was whining like crazy on SotG while Day9 and others trolled him during it.
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On June 20 2012 15:16 Neelia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 11:42 Zdrastochye wrote:On June 20 2012 11:41 Dexington wrote:On June 20 2012 11:33 Shaddar wrote:On June 20 2012 11:24 avilo wrote: I post this in chat, but the SOTG mods have conviently timed me out/banned me each time.
Oh interesting that there's a Terran here in chat willing to discuss the actual state of the game with you, isn't that what this show is for? I'll discuss it in a more logical manner than your try hard attempts at being witty and batting the issue away. I'm willing to discuss the "STATE OF THE GAME" from a Terran perspective. No whine here, just offering logical discussion from a TErran perspective which you currently do not have on this show and keep shrugging off. You seem to be unwilling to have a terran perspective on this show, so yes, I'm calling you out. I'll add in the Terran two cents, otherwise be as condescending as you want, but this isn't a "State of the Game" without a Terran on it.
Get a Terran on, I'm willing, what's the problem? I don't see what qualifies you to be a Terran representative for talking balance Dude, he's on Team Legion. Any more explanation needed? Use stats. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1644_aviloLike his 30% winrate. Everything must look imbalanced to him. Funny that you bring up his winrate, because that makes him seem like an okay pick. IdraIncontrolTylerFunny how people throw around single, picked out percentages to make/'prove' their points 
LOL so much for the "top US" X) If I were a top terran, I would not want to start a balance discussion on the show with these "knowledgeable" guys. Selling ice to eskimos make more sense.
On June 20 2012 20:20 iNcontroL wrote: avilo you rancid fuck lol. My terran is horrible.
And period.
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great show today 
idra makes a surprisingly good element in these shows, I think it suits him
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Hmm, it is state of the eg again, weak.
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On June 20 2012 23:41 iNcontroL wrote: you should front him the money then?
Interesting also that you dodged his reverse race challenge, and so many people were so quick to dismiss it.
Here's a guy who says Protoss is imbalanced against Terran, and he's willing to stand by it by offracing against a player "10x his skill" with money on the line.
Tell me, unless Terran really is weak, why would you avoid this challenge and avoid the free money? I think Avilo wanting to reverse the races was a pretty hilarious twist.
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On June 20 2012 23:42 Quotidian wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 23:37 iNcontroL wrote:On June 20 2012 23:29 Quotidian wrote:On June 20 2012 23:26 iNcontroL wrote:this thread never disappoints  Judgements coming from folk who actually have no fucking clue (looking at you quitodian/starstruck) . not exactly impressed with you either Obviously lol, you have been posting about how much you aren't impressed by me all over this forum.. get over it. how about you get over yourself? You're not as big of a deal as you think you are. The way you people are acting against certain players on the podcast is nothing but petty. None of you, not even Idra, is 10x the player of anyone in high masters, that much is blatantly obvious at this point. Anyway, hope the podcast improves soon. Sad to see it go down the (archon) toilet like this You sound so butthurt I'm fighting the urge to Fedex some Preparation H to Norway, this ass chapping is really taking us all for a ride.
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On June 20 2012 23:26 iNcontroL wrote:this thread never disappoints  Judgements coming from folk who actually have no fucking clue (looking at you quitodian/starstruck) and then white knights or fanboys either getting their panties in a bunch over defending / attacking people. I am 10x the player that avilo is.. cherry picking 1 tourney where we both played different people was dumb so I issued a challenge publicly and he dodged. One show match wouldn't prove anything but it'd be nice to take some of his money and give him a reason to shut the fuck up for once. If I could do that with some of you I would do the same but for now you can sit in this thread after each show and act like vultures.
How did you come out of the Brood War community and act like this? I understand that the SC2 community is a fucking joke and very hostile compared to the good old Brood War one, where you were respected but again, most people were. I wonder if you were the same during your long stay in prestigious ToT. Such a shame.
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TSL2 was a looooong time ago. His 12th place finish or whatever it was at WCS @Anaheim was basically the best result he has had in SC2 in about 2 years. Just watch his stream - he's basically struggling in mid-masters at this point. His opinion isn't any more valid than Avilo's. Incontrol? He's basically completely fallen off the radar as a pro at this point and I don't think he has even qualified for WCS - why is his opinion viewed as more important than Avilo's? It's because he's a co-host on SOTG and nothing else. If the qualification for being on the show was being "competent" Nony and Incontrol should've been rotated out in favor of people like Insur or RangeD. Obviously, competency isn't a qualification.
Why wouldn't you want Artosis and Day[9], who have accomplished less than me in BW and are worse than me at SC2, kicked off the show?
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On June 20 2012 23:53 Psychobabas wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 23:26 iNcontroL wrote:this thread never disappoints  Judgements coming from folk who actually have no fucking clue (looking at you quitodian/starstruck) and then white knights or fanboys either getting their panties in a bunch over defending / attacking people. I am 10x the player that avilo is.. cherry picking 1 tourney where we both played different people was dumb so I issued a challenge publicly and he dodged. One show match wouldn't prove anything but it'd be nice to take some of his money and give him a reason to shut the fuck up for once. If I could do that with some of you I would do the same but for now you can sit in this thread after each show and act like vultures. How did you come out of the Brood War community and act like this? I understand that the SC2 community is a fucking joke and very hostile compared to the good old Brood War one, where you were respected but again, most people were. I wonder if you were the same during your long stay in prestigious ToT. Such a shame. I will most likely be perm-banned for that. I know it's coming but it's fine, really.
To be honest, if you are banned, you'll probably be banned for martyring at the end of your post rather than its contents.
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On June 20 2012 23:55 zawk9 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 23:53 Psychobabas wrote:On June 20 2012 23:26 iNcontroL wrote:this thread never disappoints  Judgements coming from folk who actually have no fucking clue (looking at you quitodian/starstruck) and then white knights or fanboys either getting their panties in a bunch over defending / attacking people. I am 10x the player that avilo is.. cherry picking 1 tourney where we both played different people was dumb so I issued a challenge publicly and he dodged. One show match wouldn't prove anything but it'd be nice to take some of his money and give him a reason to shut the fuck up for once. If I could do that with some of you I would do the same but for now you can sit in this thread after each show and act like vultures. How did you come out of the Brood War community and act like this? I understand that the SC2 community is a fucking joke and very hostile compared to the good old Brood War one, where you were respected but again, most people were. I wonder if you were the same during your long stay in prestigious ToT. Such a shame. I will most likely be perm-banned for that. I know it's coming but it's fine, really. To be honest you'll probably be banned for martyring at the end of your post rather than its contents.
No martyr. I just know it will happen for daring to say something against one of the "pillars of the SC2 community". And I dont mean that in a sarcastic way.
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