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On May 29 2012 02:57 dragonborn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 02:43 Quotidian wrote:On May 29 2012 02:41 dragonborn wrote:On May 28 2012 22:58 Quotidian wrote:On May 28 2012 22:32 FuzzyJAM wrote:On May 28 2012 22:02 Quotidian wrote:On May 28 2012 17:23 farnham wrote:
day9 needs to apologize to the scene or leave the scene after this debacle with last shadow
he got in a player that has no (positive record) and let him into poolplay with players like parting or squirtle
last shadow lost every match he played and left the tournament in a bm manner because he didnt "feel well".
did mvp feel well with his injured wrist when he won gsl against squirtle last week? probably not.
day 9 got in a player that doesnt fit the criteria of "one of the best players in the world" and he needs to feel responsible for this . the last time an invite like this was done was probably lucifron in dreamhack valencia but that was to appeal to the local crowd. this time there is no real reason outside that lastshadow seems to be a friend of day 9 Day9 doesn't "need" to do anything. Acquire a grasp on reality, please. It's just a game and LS playing and failing isn't important enough to demand anybody's head on the block. Sheth, Ostojiy, Thorzain or Illusion didn't exactly have extremely impressive runs either (perfectly understandable results given the level of competition), but no one is getting upset about this - but that's because we've collectively decided to like Sheth or whatever. I had my fair share of schadenfreude when LS went 0-3 as well, because that's just human nature, but this LS/Day9 nepotism witchhunt that Incontrol is partially responsible for just shows how dumb and single minded this community is. Get over it. Being OK with Sheth, Ostojiy, Thorzain or Illusion might have more to do with the fact that they're actually known players who have at least had some success. It makes sense if you want to have foreigners (and assuming you don't get whoever you want) to go with them. LastShadow hasn't done anything impressive ever and hadn't even been seen for about a year. Vastly different.  OstojiyAchievements 2011 Date Event Result 2011-06-17 Toronto Quest for the Best Ostojiy 3 : 1 IefNaij 2011-06-12 US Go4SC2 Cup #64 Ostojiy 2 : 1 daisuki 2011-05-15 US Go4SC2 Cup #56 Ostojiy 3 : 0 LuckyFool 2011-04-30 US CraftCup #31 Ostojiy 1 : 3 SungpA LastShadowAchievements 2011 Date Event Result 2011-11-06 NESC2 League Season 2 LastShadow 2 : 3 Boyo 2011-07-02 NA ZOTAC Cup #8 LastShadow 3 : 0 HongUn 2011-05-21 NA ZOTAC Cup #2 LastShadow 3 : 2 rsvp 2011-04-17 NESC2 League Season 1 LastShadow 3 : 1 Ryan 2011-04-15 IG Cup #6 LastShadow 4 : 3 Warden 2010 Date Event Result 2010-08-28 MLG Raleigh LastShadow 0 : 2 Socke 2010-08-15 NVIDIA GosuCup US Qualifier #1 LastShadow 3 : 1 HayprO So how does Ostojiy get out of a 0-3 unremarked upon, while LS gets hounded, while idiots are demanding Day9's retirement because of LS' performance? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Winter/Championshiplook at results from Ostojiy, thank you. yes, and..? He still went unceremoniously 0-3 in his group. The issue isn't that Ostojiy doesn't have merit - he does. It's that people claim LS has none, when in terms of meaningful tournament placements, they're pretty much equal and? he have results in 2012.This guy qualified for pool play, which is quite hard. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Winter/Championship/Open_BracketHere is the results from MLG columbus 2011, ajtls is lastshadow. http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-columbus-starcraft2-open.html (lastshadow's last MLG) some notable results from Ostojiy in 2012: 2-1 vs Golden(MLG) 2-1 vs PuMa(MLG) 2-1 vs MorroW(MLG) 2-1 vs KiWiKaKi(MLG) 2-1 vs Naama(MLG) 2-0 vs HayprO (MLG) 2-1 vs Moon(EGMC) at least Ostojiy deserved this invite with his results in 2012. and results from lastshadow? your turn.
I agree with you.
Plus Ostojiy was extremely close to qualifying for MLG Spring Arena 2. He was one map away from qualifying and was narrowly defeated by Violet (who ended up winning the entire thing) and Ostojiy then ended up behind Huk on the standby list. Huk was called up to attend as first standby. Ostojiy was next in line.
Ostojiy has been putting up some quality results recently. He is a North American Ladder beast - currently 4th in NA GM. He is also a University Student and so can only play part-time.
LastShadow has not done anything at all in 2012. He said he was injured and sick and that's tough luck for him but you cannot compare his record with Ostojiy's for this year. Ostojiy has certainly been making a splash in 2012 - LastShadow has not.
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On May 29 2012 04:04 revel8 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 02:57 dragonborn wrote:On May 29 2012 02:43 Quotidian wrote:On May 29 2012 02:41 dragonborn wrote:On May 28 2012 22:58 Quotidian wrote:On May 28 2012 22:32 FuzzyJAM wrote:On May 28 2012 22:02 Quotidian wrote:On May 28 2012 17:23 farnham wrote:
day9 needs to apologize to the scene or leave the scene after this debacle with last shadow
he got in a player that has no (positive record) and let him into poolplay with players like parting or squirtle
last shadow lost every match he played and left the tournament in a bm manner because he didnt "feel well".
did mvp feel well with his injured wrist when he won gsl against squirtle last week? probably not.
day 9 got in a player that doesnt fit the criteria of "one of the best players in the world" and he needs to feel responsible for this . the last time an invite like this was done was probably lucifron in dreamhack valencia but that was to appeal to the local crowd. this time there is no real reason outside that lastshadow seems to be a friend of day 9 Day9 doesn't "need" to do anything. Acquire a grasp on reality, please. It's just a game and LS playing and failing isn't important enough to demand anybody's head on the block. Sheth, Ostojiy, Thorzain or Illusion didn't exactly have extremely impressive runs either (perfectly understandable results given the level of competition), but no one is getting upset about this - but that's because we've collectively decided to like Sheth or whatever. I had my fair share of schadenfreude when LS went 0-3 as well, because that's just human nature, but this LS/Day9 nepotism witchhunt that Incontrol is partially responsible for just shows how dumb and single minded this community is. Get over it. Being OK with Sheth, Ostojiy, Thorzain or Illusion might have more to do with the fact that they're actually known players who have at least had some success. It makes sense if you want to have foreigners (and assuming you don't get whoever you want) to go with them. LastShadow hasn't done anything impressive ever and hadn't even been seen for about a year. Vastly different. OstojiyAchievements 2011 Date Event Result 2011-06-17 Toronto Quest for the Best Ostojiy 3 : 1 IefNaij 2011-06-12 US Go4SC2 Cup #64 Ostojiy 2 : 1 daisuki 2011-05-15 US Go4SC2 Cup #56 Ostojiy 3 : 0 LuckyFool 2011-04-30 US CraftCup #31 Ostojiy 1 : 3 SungpA LastShadowAchievements 2011 Date Event Result 2011-11-06 NESC2 League Season 2 LastShadow 2 : 3 Boyo 2011-07-02 NA ZOTAC Cup #8 LastShadow 3 : 0 HongUn 2011-05-21 NA ZOTAC Cup #2 LastShadow 3 : 2 rsvp 2011-04-17 NESC2 League Season 1 LastShadow 3 : 1 Ryan 2011-04-15 IG Cup #6 LastShadow 4 : 3 Warden 2010 Date Event Result 2010-08-28 MLG Raleigh LastShadow 0 : 2 Socke 2010-08-15 NVIDIA GosuCup US Qualifier #1 LastShadow 3 : 1 HayprO So how does Ostojiy get out of a 0-3 unremarked upon, while LS gets hounded, while idiots are demanding Day9's retirement because of LS' performance? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Winter/Championshiplook at results from Ostojiy, thank you. yes, and..? He still went unceremoniously 0-3 in his group. The issue isn't that Ostojiy doesn't have merit - he does. It's that people claim LS has none, when in terms of meaningful tournament placements, they're pretty much equal and? he have results in 2012.This guy qualified for pool play, which is quite hard. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Winter/Championship/Open_BracketHere is the results from MLG columbus 2011, ajtls is lastshadow. http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-columbus-starcraft2-open.html (lastshadow's last MLG) some notable results from Ostojiy in 2012: 2-1 vs Golden(MLG) 2-1 vs PuMa(MLG) 2-1 vs MorroW(MLG) 2-1 vs KiWiKaKi(MLG) 2-1 vs Naama(MLG) 2-0 vs HayprO (MLG) 2-1 vs Moon(EGMC) at least Ostojiy deserved this invite with his results in 2012. and results from lastshadow? your turn. I agree with you. Plus Ostojiy was extremely close to qualifying for MLG Spring Arena 2. He was one map away from qualifying and was narrowly defeated by Violet (who ended up winning the entire thing) and Ostojiy then ended up behind Huk on the standby list. Huk was called up to attend as first standby. Ostojiy was next in line. Ostojiy has been putting up some quality results recently. He is a North American Ladder beast - currently 4th in NA GM. He is also a University Student and so can only play part-time. LastShadow has not done anything at all in 2012. He said he was injured and sick and that's tough luck for him but you cannot compare his record with Ostojiy's for this year. Ostojiy has certainly been making a splash in 2012 - LastShadow has not.
Thanks! I was actually one round away from qualifying for Arena 6 times, so as we also saw in this tournament I have problems closing when it matters. Hopefully I will get more opportunities to improve myself like this, despite putting up poor results I plan on learning from my mistakes and become a stronger mental competitor as I feel that is my largest challenge right now.
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On May 29 2012 05:08 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 04:04 revel8 wrote:On May 29 2012 02:57 dragonborn wrote:On May 29 2012 02:43 Quotidian wrote:On May 29 2012 02:41 dragonborn wrote:On May 28 2012 22:58 Quotidian wrote:On May 28 2012 22:32 FuzzyJAM wrote:On May 28 2012 22:02 Quotidian wrote:On May 28 2012 17:23 farnham wrote:
day9 needs to apologize to the scene or leave the scene after this debacle with last shadow
he got in a player that has no (positive record) and let him into poolplay with players like parting or squirtle
last shadow lost every match he played and left the tournament in a bm manner because he didnt "feel well".
did mvp feel well with his injured wrist when he won gsl against squirtle last week? probably not.
day 9 got in a player that doesnt fit the criteria of "one of the best players in the world" and he needs to feel responsible for this . the last time an invite like this was done was probably lucifron in dreamhack valencia but that was to appeal to the local crowd. this time there is no real reason outside that lastshadow seems to be a friend of day 9 Day9 doesn't "need" to do anything. Acquire a grasp on reality, please. It's just a game and LS playing and failing isn't important enough to demand anybody's head on the block. Sheth, Ostojiy, Thorzain or Illusion didn't exactly have extremely impressive runs either (perfectly understandable results given the level of competition), but no one is getting upset about this - but that's because we've collectively decided to like Sheth or whatever. I had my fair share of schadenfreude when LS went 0-3 as well, because that's just human nature, but this LS/Day9 nepotism witchhunt that Incontrol is partially responsible for just shows how dumb and single minded this community is. Get over it. Being OK with Sheth, Ostojiy, Thorzain or Illusion might have more to do with the fact that they're actually known players who have at least had some success. It makes sense if you want to have foreigners (and assuming you don't get whoever you want) to go with them. LastShadow hasn't done anything impressive ever and hadn't even been seen for about a year. Vastly different. OstojiyAchievements 2011 Date Event Result 2011-06-17 Toronto Quest for the Best Ostojiy 3 : 1 IefNaij 2011-06-12 US Go4SC2 Cup #64 Ostojiy 2 : 1 daisuki 2011-05-15 US Go4SC2 Cup #56 Ostojiy 3 : 0 LuckyFool 2011-04-30 US CraftCup #31 Ostojiy 1 : 3 SungpA LastShadowAchievements 2011 Date Event Result 2011-11-06 NESC2 League Season 2 LastShadow 2 : 3 Boyo 2011-07-02 NA ZOTAC Cup #8 LastShadow 3 : 0 HongUn 2011-05-21 NA ZOTAC Cup #2 LastShadow 3 : 2 rsvp 2011-04-17 NESC2 League Season 1 LastShadow 3 : 1 Ryan 2011-04-15 IG Cup #6 LastShadow 4 : 3 Warden 2010 Date Event Result 2010-08-28 MLG Raleigh LastShadow 0 : 2 Socke 2010-08-15 NVIDIA GosuCup US Qualifier #1 LastShadow 3 : 1 HayprO So how does Ostojiy get out of a 0-3 unremarked upon, while LS gets hounded, while idiots are demanding Day9's retirement because of LS' performance? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Winter/Championshiplook at results from Ostojiy, thank you. yes, and..? He still went unceremoniously 0-3 in his group. The issue isn't that Ostojiy doesn't have merit - he does. It's that people claim LS has none, when in terms of meaningful tournament placements, they're pretty much equal and? he have results in 2012.This guy qualified for pool play, which is quite hard. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Winter/Championship/Open_BracketHere is the results from MLG columbus 2011, ajtls is lastshadow. http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-columbus-starcraft2-open.html (lastshadow's last MLG) some notable results from Ostojiy in 2012: 2-1 vs Golden(MLG) 2-1 vs PuMa(MLG) 2-1 vs MorroW(MLG) 2-1 vs KiWiKaKi(MLG) 2-1 vs Naama(MLG) 2-0 vs HayprO (MLG) 2-1 vs Moon(EGMC) at least Ostojiy deserved this invite with his results in 2012. and results from lastshadow? your turn. I agree with you. Plus Ostojiy was extremely close to qualifying for MLG Spring Arena 2. He was one map away from qualifying and was narrowly defeated by Violet (who ended up winning the entire thing) and Ostojiy then ended up behind Huk on the standby list. Huk was called up to attend as first standby. Ostojiy was next in line. Ostojiy has been putting up some quality results recently. He is a North American Ladder beast - currently 4th in NA GM. He is also a University Student and so can only play part-time. LastShadow has not done anything at all in 2012. He said he was injured and sick and that's tough luck for him but you cannot compare his record with Ostojiy's for this year. Ostojiy has certainly been making a splash in 2012 - LastShadow has not. Thanks! I was actually one round away from qualifying for Arena 6 times, so as we also saw in this tournament I have problems closing when it matters. Hopefully I will get more opportunities to improve myself like this, despite putting up poor results I plan on learning from my mistakes and become a stronger mental competitor as I feel that is my largest challenge right now.
Keep fighting the good fight 
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On May 29 2012 01:13 mcc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 01:07 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 29 2012 01:06 mcc wrote:On May 28 2012 18:29 Duravi wrote:On May 28 2012 17:55 yeint wrote:On May 28 2012 17:23 farnham wrote:
day9 needs to apologize to the scene or leave the scene after this debacle with last shadow This post is retarded even by the standards of this thread. I agree that saying day9 should leave the scene is stupid, but I am getting tired of all the white knighting for him. My opinions of how his casting and show have gone downhill over the past year are just that, opinions, but this Last Shadow debacle really tarnished day. On SotG (or was it Lo3) he didn't even acknowledge that LS had past issues (hell the guy even got kicked out of the GOM house), and basically dodged everything he was asked by diverting into some narcissistic monologue following every question. I hope someone can bring Day back down to earth, how he portrays himself has changed drastically in the past 1 to 1 1/2 years. And you continue with making the thread even more retarded by fabricating stories. On Lo3 Sean said he does not know anything about any BM issues, he did not deny that there are. And what questions did he dodge by narcissistic monologue ? You mean the non-sensical 2GD's remark they were discussing ? Btw. the GOM house controversy is as far as I know bunch of untrustworthy people claiming different things. oh come on. The guy was a known hacker/bm'er in BW. As if you can pretend Day9 had never heard of this. I am not a mind reader, unlike you. I am rather sure he knew about BW hacking, but he did not comment on past hacking, so no problem there. And why would he know about the BM issues. Some people could care less about all the drama on the forums. People who love the drama have really skewed idea about how much the rest knows about player's behaviour and out of game history in general. I knew he hacked in BW, but I knew nothing about him being BM before this whole nonsense started.
He hasn't said anything that would indicate he can read minds. He said Day9 has to know about the things LS did in BW, considering the big American BW pros knew about him.
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On May 29 2012 05:08 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 04:04 revel8 wrote:On May 29 2012 02:57 dragonborn wrote:On May 29 2012 02:43 Quotidian wrote:On May 29 2012 02:41 dragonborn wrote:On May 28 2012 22:58 Quotidian wrote:On May 28 2012 22:32 FuzzyJAM wrote:On May 28 2012 22:02 Quotidian wrote:On May 28 2012 17:23 farnham wrote:
day9 needs to apologize to the scene or leave the scene after this debacle with last shadow
he got in a player that has no (positive record) and let him into poolplay with players like parting or squirtle
last shadow lost every match he played and left the tournament in a bm manner because he didnt "feel well".
did mvp feel well with his injured wrist when he won gsl against squirtle last week? probably not.
day 9 got in a player that doesnt fit the criteria of "one of the best players in the world" and he needs to feel responsible for this . the last time an invite like this was done was probably lucifron in dreamhack valencia but that was to appeal to the local crowd. this time there is no real reason outside that lastshadow seems to be a friend of day 9 Day9 doesn't "need" to do anything. Acquire a grasp on reality, please. It's just a game and LS playing and failing isn't important enough to demand anybody's head on the block. Sheth, Ostojiy, Thorzain or Illusion didn't exactly have extremely impressive runs either (perfectly understandable results given the level of competition), but no one is getting upset about this - but that's because we've collectively decided to like Sheth or whatever. I had my fair share of schadenfreude when LS went 0-3 as well, because that's just human nature, but this LS/Day9 nepotism witchhunt that Incontrol is partially responsible for just shows how dumb and single minded this community is. Get over it. Being OK with Sheth, Ostojiy, Thorzain or Illusion might have more to do with the fact that they're actually known players who have at least had some success. It makes sense if you want to have foreigners (and assuming you don't get whoever you want) to go with them. LastShadow hasn't done anything impressive ever and hadn't even been seen for about a year. Vastly different. OstojiyAchievements 2011 Date Event Result 2011-06-17 Toronto Quest for the Best Ostojiy 3 : 1 IefNaij 2011-06-12 US Go4SC2 Cup #64 Ostojiy 2 : 1 daisuki 2011-05-15 US Go4SC2 Cup #56 Ostojiy 3 : 0 LuckyFool 2011-04-30 US CraftCup #31 Ostojiy 1 : 3 SungpA LastShadowAchievements 2011 Date Event Result 2011-11-06 NESC2 League Season 2 LastShadow 2 : 3 Boyo 2011-07-02 NA ZOTAC Cup #8 LastShadow 3 : 0 HongUn 2011-05-21 NA ZOTAC Cup #2 LastShadow 3 : 2 rsvp 2011-04-17 NESC2 League Season 1 LastShadow 3 : 1 Ryan 2011-04-15 IG Cup #6 LastShadow 4 : 3 Warden 2010 Date Event Result 2010-08-28 MLG Raleigh LastShadow 0 : 2 Socke 2010-08-15 NVIDIA GosuCup US Qualifier #1 LastShadow 3 : 1 HayprO So how does Ostojiy get out of a 0-3 unremarked upon, while LS gets hounded, while idiots are demanding Day9's retirement because of LS' performance? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Winter/Championshiplook at results from Ostojiy, thank you. yes, and..? He still went unceremoniously 0-3 in his group. The issue isn't that Ostojiy doesn't have merit - he does. It's that people claim LS has none, when in terms of meaningful tournament placements, they're pretty much equal and? he have results in 2012.This guy qualified for pool play, which is quite hard. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Winter/Championship/Open_BracketHere is the results from MLG columbus 2011, ajtls is lastshadow. http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-columbus-starcraft2-open.html (lastshadow's last MLG) some notable results from Ostojiy in 2012: 2-1 vs Golden(MLG) 2-1 vs PuMa(MLG) 2-1 vs MorroW(MLG) 2-1 vs KiWiKaKi(MLG) 2-1 vs Naama(MLG) 2-0 vs HayprO (MLG) 2-1 vs Moon(EGMC) at least Ostojiy deserved this invite with his results in 2012. and results from lastshadow? your turn. I agree with you. Plus Ostojiy was extremely close to qualifying for MLG Spring Arena 2. He was one map away from qualifying and was narrowly defeated by Violet (who ended up winning the entire thing) and Ostojiy then ended up behind Huk on the standby list. Huk was called up to attend as first standby. Ostojiy was next in line. Ostojiy has been putting up some quality results recently. He is a North American Ladder beast - currently 4th in NA GM. He is also a University Student and so can only play part-time. LastShadow has not done anything at all in 2012. He said he was injured and sick and that's tough luck for him but you cannot compare his record with Ostojiy's for this year. Ostojiy has certainly been making a splash in 2012 - LastShadow has not. Thanks! I was actually one round away from qualifying for Arena 6 times, so as we also saw in this tournament I have problems closing when it matters. Hopefully I will get more opportunities to improve myself like this, despite putting up poor results I plan on learning from my mistakes and become a stronger mental competitor as I feel that is my largest challenge right now.
Your performance was inspiring. Keep up the good work!!
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Are they still planning to do a Diablo episode?
Also doesn anyone remember the episode where there's some real awkwardness between JP and Incontrol near the start like InControl thinks JP is having a dig at him or NASL or something? I lost all my mp3s reformatting my computer and I can't find that episode.
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I also find it hard to believe that Day9 is unaware of the cheating and BM considering he was heavily invested in the BW foreign scene and everyone knows how big of a cheater and liar LastShadow was.
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On May 29 2012 06:52 zefreak wrote:
I also find it hard to believe that Day9 is unaware of the cheating and BM considering he was heavily invested in the BW foreign scene and everyone knows how big of a cheater and liar LastShadow was.
Funny how noone actually claimed that Day9 is unaware of LastShadow's BW history and yet people are already arguing like someone did. That is how urban myths are created and lately SC2 community is excellent at producing them.
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I think we've gotten extremely far afield of the original comment by iNcontroL.
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On May 29 2012 06:16 Ercster wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 01:13 mcc wrote:On May 29 2012 01:07 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 29 2012 01:06 mcc wrote:On May 28 2012 18:29 Duravi wrote:On May 28 2012 17:55 yeint wrote:On May 28 2012 17:23 farnham wrote:
day9 needs to apologize to the scene or leave the scene after this debacle with last shadow This post is retarded even by the standards of this thread. I agree that saying day9 should leave the scene is stupid, but I am getting tired of all the white knighting for him. My opinions of how his casting and show have gone downhill over the past year are just that, opinions, but this Last Shadow debacle really tarnished day. On SotG (or was it Lo3) he didn't even acknowledge that LS had past issues (hell the guy even got kicked out of the GOM house), and basically dodged everything he was asked by diverting into some narcissistic monologue following every question. I hope someone can bring Day back down to earth, how he portrays himself has changed drastically in the past 1 to 1 1/2 years. And you continue with making the thread even more retarded by fabricating stories. On Lo3 Sean said he does not know anything about any BM issues, he did not deny that there are. And what questions did he dodge by narcissistic monologue ? You mean the non-sensical 2GD's remark they were discussing ? Btw. the GOM house controversy is as far as I know bunch of untrustworthy people claiming different things. oh come on. The guy was a known hacker/bm'er in BW. As if you can pretend Day9 had never heard of this. I am not a mind reader, unlike you. I am rather sure he knew about BW hacking, but he did not comment on past hacking, so no problem there. And why would he know about the BM issues. Some people could care less about all the drama on the forums. People who love the drama have really skewed idea about how much the rest knows about player's behaviour and out of game history in general. I knew he hacked in BW, but I knew nothing about him being BM before this whole nonsense started. He hasn't said anything that would indicate he can read minds. He said Day9 has to know about the things LS did in BW, considering the big American BW pros knew about him.
Look also what he was responding to. We were talking about Day9 supposedly not acknowledging LS issues on Lo3. On Lo3 Slasher brings recent LastShadow's BM. Then this guy comes bringing cheating in BW and other old stuff. What does it has to do with what was being discussed on Lo3 ?
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On May 29 2012 07:05 mcc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 06:52 zefreak wrote:
I also find it hard to believe that Day9 is unaware of the cheating and BM considering he was heavily invested in the BW foreign scene and everyone knows how big of a cheater and liar LastShadow was. Funny how noone actually claimed that Day9 is unaware of LastShadow's BW history and yet people are already arguing like someone did. That is how urban myths are created and lately SC2 community is excellent at producing them.
What, that post doesnt even make sense. Is he not allowed to say that? Urban myths? Get off your high horse and make posts that make sense.
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On May 29 2012 07:27 Apollo_Shards wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 07:05 mcc wrote:On May 29 2012 06:52 zefreak wrote:
I also find it hard to believe that Day9 is unaware of the cheating and BM considering he was heavily invested in the BW foreign scene and everyone knows how big of a cheater and liar LastShadow was. Funny how noone actually claimed that Day9 is unaware of LastShadow's BW history and yet people are already arguing like someone did. That is how urban myths are created and lately SC2 community is excellent at producing them. What, that post doesnt even make sense. Is he not allowed to say that? Urban myths? Get off your high horse and make posts that make sense.
Of course he is allowed to say whatever he wants. But his post implies that someone argued that Day9 was unaware of LastShadows BW history (otherwise his post would make no sense). But noone actually argued that.
As for the urban myth. Look at what happened on just last three pages. People talking about recent LastShadows BM and Lo3 discussion. Then Aeroplaneoverthesea comes along and brings completely unrelated BW cheating and now people are already thinking that some people claim that Day9 is unaware of that, even though noone actually claimed that.
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On May 29 2012 07:40 mcc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 07:27 Apollo_Shards wrote:On May 29 2012 07:05 mcc wrote:On May 29 2012 06:52 zefreak wrote:
I also find it hard to believe that Day9 is unaware of the cheating and BM considering he was heavily invested in the BW foreign scene and everyone knows how big of a cheater and liar LastShadow was. Funny how noone actually claimed that Day9 is unaware of LastShadow's BW history and yet people are already arguing like someone did. That is how urban myths are created and lately SC2 community is excellent at producing them. What, that post doesnt even make sense. Is he not allowed to say that? Urban myths? Get off your high horse and make posts that make sense. Of course he is allowed to say whatever he wants. But his post implies that someone argued that Day9 was unaware of LastShadows BW history (otherwise his post would make no sense). But noone actually argued that. As for the urban myth. Look at what happened on just last three pages. People talking about recent LastShadows BM and Lo3 discussion. Then Aeroplaneoverthesea comes along and brings completely unrelated BW cheating and now people are already thinking that some people claim that Day9 is unaware of that, even though noone actually claimed that.
Nobody is claiming Day 9 is unaware, the claim was he knows and he doesn't care, which is far more likely.
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On May 29 2012 07:25 mcc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 06:16 Ercster wrote:On May 29 2012 01:13 mcc wrote:On May 29 2012 01:07 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 29 2012 01:06 mcc wrote:On May 28 2012 18:29 Duravi wrote:On May 28 2012 17:55 yeint wrote:On May 28 2012 17:23 farnham wrote:
day9 needs to apologize to the scene or leave the scene after this debacle with last shadow This post is retarded even by the standards of this thread. I agree that saying day9 should leave the scene is stupid, but I am getting tired of all the white knighting for him. My opinions of how his casting and show have gone downhill over the past year are just that, opinions, but this Last Shadow debacle really tarnished day. On SotG (or was it Lo3) he didn't even acknowledge that LS had past issues (hell the guy even got kicked out of the GOM house), and basically dodged everything he was asked by diverting into some narcissistic monologue following every question. I hope someone can bring Day back down to earth, how he portrays himself has changed drastically in the past 1 to 1 1/2 years. And you continue with making the thread even more retarded by fabricating stories. On Lo3 Sean said he does not know anything about any BM issues, he did not deny that there are. And what questions did he dodge by narcissistic monologue ? You mean the non-sensical 2GD's remark they were discussing ? Btw. the GOM house controversy is as far as I know bunch of untrustworthy people claiming different things. oh come on. The guy was a known hacker/bm'er in BW. As if you can pretend Day9 had never heard of this. I am not a mind reader, unlike you. I am rather sure he knew about BW hacking, but he did not comment on past hacking, so no problem there. And why would he know about the BM issues. Some people could care less about all the drama on the forums. People who love the drama have really skewed idea about how much the rest knows about player's behaviour and out of game history in general. I knew he hacked in BW, but I knew nothing about him being BM before this whole nonsense started. He hasn't said anything that would indicate he can read minds. He said Day9 has to know about the things LS did in BW, considering the big American BW pros knew about him. Look also what he was responding to. We were talking about Day9 supposedly not acknowledging LS issues on Lo3. On Lo3 Slasher brings recent LastShadow's BM. Then this guy comes bringing cheating in BW and other old stuff. What does it has to do with what was being discussed on Lo3 ?
His behavior prior to the battleground invite has to be taken into account, you can't just ignore it. The fact that it happened in BW doesn't make it less relevant.
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On May 29 2012 07:51 Ercster wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 07:25 mcc wrote:On May 29 2012 06:16 Ercster wrote:On May 29 2012 01:13 mcc wrote:On May 29 2012 01:07 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 29 2012 01:06 mcc wrote:On May 28 2012 18:29 Duravi wrote:On May 28 2012 17:55 yeint wrote:On May 28 2012 17:23 farnham wrote:
day9 needs to apologize to the scene or leave the scene after this debacle with last shadow This post is retarded even by the standards of this thread. I agree that saying day9 should leave the scene is stupid, but I am getting tired of all the white knighting for him. My opinions of how his casting and show have gone downhill over the past year are just that, opinions, but this Last Shadow debacle really tarnished day. On SotG (or was it Lo3) he didn't even acknowledge that LS had past issues (hell the guy even got kicked out of the GOM house), and basically dodged everything he was asked by diverting into some narcissistic monologue following every question. I hope someone can bring Day back down to earth, how he portrays himself has changed drastically in the past 1 to 1 1/2 years. And you continue with making the thread even more retarded by fabricating stories. On Lo3 Sean said he does not know anything about any BM issues, he did not deny that there are. And what questions did he dodge by narcissistic monologue ? You mean the non-sensical 2GD's remark they were discussing ? Btw. the GOM house controversy is as far as I know bunch of untrustworthy people claiming different things. oh come on. The guy was a known hacker/bm'er in BW. As if you can pretend Day9 had never heard of this. I am not a mind reader, unlike you. I am rather sure he knew about BW hacking, but he did not comment on past hacking, so no problem there. And why would he know about the BM issues. Some people could care less about all the drama on the forums. People who love the drama have really skewed idea about how much the rest knows about player's behaviour and out of game history in general. I knew he hacked in BW, but I knew nothing about him being BM before this whole nonsense started. He hasn't said anything that would indicate he can read minds. He said Day9 has to know about the things LS did in BW, considering the big American BW pros knew about him. Look also what he was responding to. We were talking about Day9 supposedly not acknowledging LS issues on Lo3. On Lo3 Slasher brings recent LastShadow's BM. Then this guy comes bringing cheating in BW and other old stuff. What does it has to do with what was being discussed on Lo3 ? His behavior prior to the battleground invite has to be taken into account, you can't just ignore it. The fact that it happened in BW doesn't make it less relevant.
But that has nothing to do with what Duravi was claiming and I objected to.
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Sorry to bring up the show itself, instead of contributing to the LS discussion,
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but has JP said anything about when the next show is airing? Thank you and carry on.
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On May 29 2012 07:58 mcc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 07:51 Ercster wrote:On May 29 2012 07:25 mcc wrote:On May 29 2012 06:16 Ercster wrote:On May 29 2012 01:13 mcc wrote:On May 29 2012 01:07 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 29 2012 01:06 mcc wrote:On May 28 2012 18:29 Duravi wrote:On May 28 2012 17:55 yeint wrote:On May 28 2012 17:23 farnham wrote:
day9 needs to apologize to the scene or leave the scene after this debacle with last shadow This post is retarded even by the standards of this thread. I agree that saying day9 should leave the scene is stupid, but I am getting tired of all the white knighting for him. My opinions of how his casting and show have gone downhill over the past year are just that, opinions, but this Last Shadow debacle really tarnished day. On SotG (or was it Lo3) he didn't even acknowledge that LS had past issues (hell the guy even got kicked out of the GOM house), and basically dodged everything he was asked by diverting into some narcissistic monologue following every question. I hope someone can bring Day back down to earth, how he portrays himself has changed drastically in the past 1 to 1 1/2 years. And you continue with making the thread even more retarded by fabricating stories. On Lo3 Sean said he does not know anything about any BM issues, he did not deny that there are. And what questions did he dodge by narcissistic monologue ? You mean the non-sensical 2GD's remark they were discussing ? Btw. the GOM house controversy is as far as I know bunch of untrustworthy people claiming different things. oh come on. The guy was a known hacker/bm'er in BW. As if you can pretend Day9 had never heard of this. I am not a mind reader, unlike you. I am rather sure he knew about BW hacking, but he did not comment on past hacking, so no problem there. And why would he know about the BM issues. Some people could care less about all the drama on the forums. People who love the drama have really skewed idea about how much the rest knows about player's behaviour and out of game history in general. I knew he hacked in BW, but I knew nothing about him being BM before this whole nonsense started. He hasn't said anything that would indicate he can read minds. He said Day9 has to know about the things LS did in BW, considering the big American BW pros knew about him. Look also what he was responding to. We were talking about Day9 supposedly not acknowledging LS issues on Lo3. On Lo3 Slasher brings recent LastShadow's BM. Then this guy comes bringing cheating in BW and other old stuff. What does it has to do with what was being discussed on Lo3 ? His behavior prior to the battleground invite has to be taken into account, you can't just ignore it. The fact that it happened in BW doesn't make it less relevant. But that has nothing to do with what Duravi was claiming and I objected to.
Because my comment wasn't directed towards that response, but to the your response to Aeroplaneoverthesea.
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On May 29 2012 08:05 Ercster wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 07:58 mcc wrote:On May 29 2012 07:51 Ercster wrote:On May 29 2012 07:25 mcc wrote:On May 29 2012 06:16 Ercster wrote:On May 29 2012 01:13 mcc wrote:On May 29 2012 01:07 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 29 2012 01:06 mcc wrote:On May 28 2012 18:29 Duravi wrote:On May 28 2012 17:55 yeint wrote:
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This post is retarded even by the standards of this thread. I agree that saying day9 should leave the scene is stupid, but I am getting tired of all the white knighting for him. My opinions of how his casting and show have gone downhill over the past year are just that, opinions, but this Last Shadow debacle really tarnished day. On SotG (or was it Lo3) he didn't even acknowledge that LS had past issues (hell the guy even got kicked out of the GOM house), and basically dodged everything he was asked by diverting into some narcissistic monologue following every question. I hope someone can bring Day back down to earth, how he portrays himself has changed drastically in the past 1 to 1 1/2 years. And you continue with making the thread even more retarded by fabricating stories. On Lo3 Sean said he does not know anything about any BM issues, he did not deny that there are. And what questions did he dodge by narcissistic monologue ? You mean the non-sensical 2GD's remark they were discussing ? Btw. the GOM house controversy is as far as I know bunch of untrustworthy people claiming different things. oh come on. The guy was a known hacker/bm'er in BW. As if you can pretend Day9 had never heard of this. I am not a mind reader, unlike you. I am rather sure he knew about BW hacking, but he did not comment on past hacking, so no problem there. And why would he know about the BM issues. Some people could care less about all the drama on the forums. People who love the drama have really skewed idea about how much the rest knows about player's behaviour and out of game history in general. I knew he hacked in BW, but I knew nothing about him being BM before this whole nonsense started. He hasn't said anything that would indicate he can read minds. He said Day9 has to know about the things LS did in BW, considering the big American BW pros knew about him. Look also what he was responding to. We were talking about Day9 supposedly not acknowledging LS issues on Lo3. On Lo3 Slasher brings recent LastShadow's BM. Then this guy comes bringing cheating in BW and other old stuff. What does it has to do with what was being discussed on Lo3 ? His behavior prior to the battleground invite has to be taken into account, you can't just ignore it. The fact that it happened in BW doesn't make it less relevant. But that has nothing to do with what Duravi was claiming and I objected to. Because my comment wasn't directed towards that response, but to the your response to Aeroplaneoverthesea.
Do you even know what context means ? His response was towards the discussion between me and Duravi. I agreed that Day9 probably knew about the BW issues. But it had nothing to do with what was being discussed and I pointed that out and reiterated to him what I said to Duravi.
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On May 29 2012 07:49 Duravi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 07:40 mcc wrote:On May 29 2012 07:27 Apollo_Shards wrote:On May 29 2012 07:05 mcc wrote:On May 29 2012 06:52 zefreak wrote:
I also find it hard to believe that Day9 is unaware of the cheating and BM considering he was heavily invested in the BW foreign scene and everyone knows how big of a cheater and liar LastShadow was. Funny how noone actually claimed that Day9 is unaware of LastShadow's BW history and yet people are already arguing like someone did. That is how urban myths are created and lately SC2 community is excellent at producing them. What, that post doesnt even make sense. Is he not allowed to say that? Urban myths? Get off your high horse and make posts that make sense. Of course he is allowed to say whatever he wants. But his post implies that someone argued that Day9 was unaware of LastShadows BW history (otherwise his post would make no sense). But noone actually argued that. As for the urban myth. Look at what happened on just last three pages. People talking about recent LastShadows BM and Lo3 discussion. Then Aeroplaneoverthesea comes along and brings completely unrelated BW cheating and now people are already thinking that some people claim that Day9 is unaware of that, even though noone actually claimed that. Nobody is claiming Day 9 is unaware, the claim was he knows and he doesn't care, which is far more likely.
On Lo3 he said he does not know about his recent BM and issues, but if he knew he would not care unless he was completely impossible to be put on the screen. You claim that he knew beforehand, anything to support that ?
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