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On April 28 2012 17:41 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 20:26 rotegirte wrote:On April 27 2012 19:42 Gamegene wrote:On April 27 2012 19:40 FunnyPicture wrote:
Americans shitting on a european player.. What else is new. U jelly yanks? lol people don't like nani not because he's swedish, it's because he acts like prick. "prick" or just not caring much about playing the we-are-a-happy-family-game. yes, that can be seen as anti-social given the standards of the majority of people. it is anti-social in the strict sense of him prioritizing his game over everything else. it's not like he doesn't need other human beings to interact with. He seems to get along with the ST team pretty well, and misses no opportunity to thank them for hosting and helping him. He considers SaSe as one of his best friends, and bonded with Khaldor. And not to forget Artosis. To put it blunt, he might be thinking "I'm here to win games, not make friends". In contrast to Stephano's "I want to have fun before I leave" and Sheth's "Let's all be happy". Since he obviously already has contacts that satisfy his social needs and/or are beneficial to his goals, any additional effort can be seen as distraction from the game. Sure it's a higher moral road to sustain a certain level of decency towards everybody. But from early childhood to adult work life, I reckon everybody has these acquaintances that they never really cared about. When I see somebody on the street I remotely know, I sometimes don't even bother to greet them. Should I? Or how happy I was to finally leave high school and its unnecessary drama and closeness of the inner circle to finally meet a bunch of people that were interesting to me in the open world. With things not being black and white, there are always varying levels of interaction one can deem worthy of investing. It is safe to assume that Naniwa is failing to gauge a productive balance. It also doesn't excuse his weak judgment of stepping on other's courtesy. I hope he grows in that department, but I certainly can understand him not wanting to participate in the giant circlejerk that is SC2. Especially given the mentality of "if you are not with us, you are against us" When said somebody comes up to gratulate you on an accomplishment of yours, you absolutely should. Otherwise, do as you please, it's not like anyone is criticizing Naniwa for not running around making friends with everyone.
A story retold by one party does lack the viewpoint of the accused. Plus, not only choice of words, but also their tone make the message, which is also lost.
I don't precisely know why you bolded the one part- but the intention was to outline the existence of varying levels of personal attachment. If I was to be classified as anti-social for not greeting the fellow who I might have met once in a uni class and spoken to two or three times in total, standards are certainly set high.
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On April 30 2012 09:21 FreudianTrip wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 09:20 Hnnngg wrote:On April 30 2012 09:14 windsupernova wrote:On April 29 2012 13:00 dronefarm wrote:On April 29 2012 11:31 tyrless wrote:
Idra calling Naniwa a sociopath is amusing if accurate. Undoubtedly the both of them would be diagnosed with some form of ASPD (as many of the basement dwellers in the esports community would). Although most of the time these kids just need to get laid to lighten up. He's making a lighthearted comment on a person he's had a lot of personal interaction with who is his peer in his career field. You are not a peer of either and probably don't have close personal interaction with either, so what you're doing is being a douchebag and making character jabs about people you've never met before and only ever get to see through a very narrow perspective. As to them lightening up and getting laid, Both of these "kids" undoubtedly make 100k+ a year while they're under 25, I'm pretty sure they do get laid quite a lot. I'm sure you think that it's funny saying a lot of people in the esports world have personality disorders, have no life, are virgins, etc, etc, but it's not. You're on an esports site where a lot of people are productive people following something they're passionate about. If you don't like it, you probably shouldn't be here. If not, stop acting condescending and running your mouth Source of their 100k+ Salary? On April 30 2012 07:24 stormchaser wrote:On April 30 2012 07:20 Hardigan wrote:On April 30 2012 07:18 IMNasty wrote:On April 29 2012 22:09 FreudianTrip wrote:On April 29 2012 13:00 dronefarm wrote:On April 29 2012 11:31 tyrless wrote:
Idra calling Naniwa a sociopath is amusing if accurate. Undoubtedly the both of them would be diagnosed with some form of ASPD (as many of the basement dwellers in the esports community would). Although most of the time these kids just need to get laid to lighten up. He's making a lighthearted comment on a person he's had a lot of personal interaction with who is his peer in his career field. You are not a peer of either and probably don't have close personal interaction with either, so what you're doing is being a douchebag and making character jabs about people you've never met before and only ever get to see through a very narrow perspective. As to them lightening up and getting laid, Both of these "kids" undoubtedly make 100k+ a year while they're under 25, I'm pretty sure they do get laid quite a lot. I'm sure you think that it's funny saying a lot of people in the esports world have personality disorders, have no life, are virgins, etc, etc, but it's not. You're on an esports site where a lot of people are productive people following something they're passionate about. If you don't like it, you probably shouldn't be here. If not, stop acting condescending and running your mouth 100k a year? You high bro? Do you think Idra owns that Bugatti from the Kingston Ads too? you must be new around here, its common knowledge that the more prominent EG guys (idra, huk) get six figure salaries. first, it's only a rumor and when someone spreads rumor, it doesn't get true over time. second, that rumor was only for Huk It's NOT A RUMOUR it has been confirmed at the sloan sports conference by the EG manager. Should I google it for you too? I watched that... He said the TEAM cost six figures to run. Not one player was on six figures. How the fuck would EG support a player on six figures? Arsenal Football Club make SEVERAL HUNDRED MILLION A YEAR. And don't have a single player on six figures.
dont think u know anything about Arsenal Football Club.. players on NBA benches make 100k by just sitting there and you think the most popular sport in the world who have starters dont make 100k a year? LOL
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On April 30 2012 09:48 naux wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 09:21 FreudianTrip wrote:On April 30 2012 09:20 Hnnngg wrote:On April 30 2012 09:14 windsupernova wrote:On April 29 2012 13:00 dronefarm wrote:On April 29 2012 11:31 tyrless wrote:
Idra calling Naniwa a sociopath is amusing if accurate. Undoubtedly the both of them would be diagnosed with some form of ASPD (as many of the basement dwellers in the esports community would). Although most of the time these kids just need to get laid to lighten up. He's making a lighthearted comment on a person he's had a lot of personal interaction with who is his peer in his career field. You are not a peer of either and probably don't have close personal interaction with either, so what you're doing is being a douchebag and making character jabs about people you've never met before and only ever get to see through a very narrow perspective. As to them lightening up and getting laid, Both of these "kids" undoubtedly make 100k+ a year while they're under 25, I'm pretty sure they do get laid quite a lot. I'm sure you think that it's funny saying a lot of people in the esports world have personality disorders, have no life, are virgins, etc, etc, but it's not. You're on an esports site where a lot of people are productive people following something they're passionate about. If you don't like it, you probably shouldn't be here. If not, stop acting condescending and running your mouth Source of their 100k+ Salary? On April 30 2012 07:24 stormchaser wrote:On April 30 2012 07:20 Hardigan wrote:On April 30 2012 07:18 IMNasty wrote:On April 29 2012 22:09 FreudianTrip wrote:On April 29 2012 13:00 dronefarm wrote:On April 29 2012 11:31 tyrless wrote:
Idra calling Naniwa a sociopath is amusing if accurate. Undoubtedly the both of them would be diagnosed with some form of ASPD (as many of the basement dwellers in the esports community would). Although most of the time these kids just need to get laid to lighten up. He's making a lighthearted comment on a person he's had a lot of personal interaction with who is his peer in his career field. You are not a peer of either and probably don't have close personal interaction with either, so what you're doing is being a douchebag and making character jabs about people you've never met before and only ever get to see through a very narrow perspective. As to them lightening up and getting laid, Both of these "kids" undoubtedly make 100k+ a year while they're under 25, I'm pretty sure they do get laid quite a lot. I'm sure you think that it's funny saying a lot of people in the esports world have personality disorders, have no life, are virgins, etc, etc, but it's not. You're on an esports site where a lot of people are productive people following something they're passionate about. If you don't like it, you probably shouldn't be here. If not, stop acting condescending and running your mouth 100k a year? You high bro? Do you think Idra owns that Bugatti from the Kingston Ads too? you must be new around here, its common knowledge that the more prominent EG guys (idra, huk) get six figure salaries. first, it's only a rumor and when someone spreads rumor, it doesn't get true over time. second, that rumor was only for Huk It's NOT A RUMOUR it has been confirmed at the sloan sports conference by the EG manager. Should I google it for you too? I watched that... He said the TEAM cost six figures to run. Not one player was on six figures. How the fuck would EG support a player on six figures? Arsenal Football Club make SEVERAL HUNDRED MILLION A YEAR. And don't have a single player on six figures. dont think u know anything about Arsenal Football Club.. players on NBA benches make 100k by just sitting there and you think the most popular sport in the world who have starters dont make 100k a year? LOL
Lol reading this back I'm fucking retarded. Not sure why I even said that. Obviously they earn more than that. I started putting my per week into per annum. 5 beers and 3am will do that you I guess. Apologies. First point still stands though.
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On April 30 2012 09:22 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 09:14 windsupernova wrote:On April 29 2012 13:00 dronefarm wrote:On April 29 2012 11:31 tyrless wrote:
Idra calling Naniwa a sociopath is amusing if accurate. Undoubtedly the both of them would be diagnosed with some form of ASPD (as many of the basement dwellers in the esports community would). Although most of the time these kids just need to get laid to lighten up. He's making a lighthearted comment on a person he's had a lot of personal interaction with who is his peer in his career field. You are not a peer of either and probably don't have close personal interaction with either, so what you're doing is being a douchebag and making character jabs about people you've never met before and only ever get to see through a very narrow perspective. As to them lightening up and getting laid, Both of these "kids" undoubtedly make 100k+ a year while they're under 25, I'm pretty sure they do get laid quite a lot. I'm sure you think that it's funny saying a lot of people in the esports world have personality disorders, have no life, are virgins, etc, etc, but it's not. You're on an esports site where a lot of people are productive people following something they're passionate about. If you don't like it, you probably shouldn't be here. If not, stop acting condescending and running your mouth Source of their 100k+ Salary? EG pays them their salary...
Hahaha, I think its safe to say that Incontrol, Idra, HuK are all well compensated... I think that the secrecy of most the players and casters pay is actually not the best thing for esports, I think itd help it grow if at least general figures were available to the public (If they are already then I am ignorant to their existence) I think if people saw that you don't need to be Day9 or Artosis to make a comfortable living in esports then more people would be pursuing this as a career. (Yes I know that there are plenty of people making solid livings off of eSports but Ive always been curious how much a mid-tier caster such as Frodan makes, not necessarily specifics just ballpark figures)
Btw Tyler you were missed this week
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They make above average college grad salary
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I'm guessing that an Average Pro Gamer makes between 1000 - 1500 $ a month + their winnings + All expenses paid to events (Plane, Food, Transport etc...) But that's just a guess
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On April 30 2012 10:15 Liquid`NonY wrote:
They make above average college grad salary
Haha, thanks Tyler for that tidbit. Average college grad salary is above $50k so that makes sense fo the top players like IdrA and HuK.
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On April 30 2012 09:21 FreudianTrip wrote:
How the fuck would EG support a player on six figures? Arsenal Football Club make SEVERAL HUNDRED MILLION A YEAR. And don't have a single player on six figures.
Six figures yearly, not weekly. 
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On April 30 2012 10:16 Universum wrote:
I'm guessing that an Average Pro Gamer makes between 1000 - 1500 $ a month + their winnings + All expenses paid to events (Plane, Food, Transport etc...) But that's just a guess
If their rooming costs are covered, that is very good if they can keep their cost of living low(car, health care). They could bank some serious money with winnings and money from streaming.
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On April 30 2012 10:18 holy_war wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 10:15 Liquid`NonY wrote:
They make above average college grad salary Haha, thanks Tyler for that tidbit. Average college grad salary is above $50k so that makes sense fo the top players like IdrA and HuK.
Fresh out of college avg. salary is more in the range of 20-40k.
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On April 30 2012 12:01 Oreo7 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 10:18 holy_war wrote:On April 30 2012 10:15 Liquid`NonY wrote:
They make above average college grad salary Haha, thanks Tyler for that tidbit. Average college grad salary is above $50k so that makes sense fo the top players like IdrA and HuK. Fresh out of college avg. salary is more in the range of 20-40k.
if you include the graduates that don't get job offers, yeah
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On April 30 2012 12:07 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 12:01 Oreo7 wrote:On April 30 2012 10:18 holy_war wrote:On April 30 2012 10:15 Liquid`NonY wrote:
They make above average college grad salary Haha, thanks Tyler for that tidbit. Average college grad salary is above $50k so that makes sense fo the top players like IdrA and HuK. Fresh out of college avg. salary is more in the range of 20-40k. if you include the graduates that don't get job offers, yeah
What we're you planning on doing with your degree, out of curiousity?
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On April 30 2012 12:10 McFeser wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 12:07 Liquid`NonY wrote:On April 30 2012 12:01 Oreo7 wrote:On April 30 2012 10:18 holy_war wrote:On April 30 2012 10:15 Liquid`NonY wrote:
They make above average college grad salary Haha, thanks Tyler for that tidbit. Average college grad salary is above $50k so that makes sense fo the top players like IdrA and HuK. Fresh out of college avg. salary is more in the range of 20-40k. if you include the graduates that don't get job offers, yeah What we're you planning on doing with your degree, out of curiousity?
law school
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EG support a player on six figures?
Salary is only part of it. Some of these players get thousands of viewers daily when they stream and they run a good number of ads. It all adds up. Plus all the extra money from winnings and other things like that.
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On April 30 2012 12:11 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 12:10 McFeser wrote:On April 30 2012 12:07 Liquid`NonY wrote:On April 30 2012 12:01 Oreo7 wrote:On April 30 2012 10:18 holy_war wrote:On April 30 2012 10:15 Liquid`NonY wrote:
They make above average college grad salary Haha, thanks Tyler for that tidbit. Average college grad salary is above $50k so that makes sense fo the top players like IdrA and HuK. Fresh out of college avg. salary is more in the range of 20-40k. if you include the graduates that don't get job offers, yeah What we're you planning on doing with your degree, out of curiousity? law school
You're going to law school? That's pretty intense; good for you!
Any idea where you want to go for law school?
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On April 30 2012 12:35 Holytornados wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 12:11 Liquid`NonY wrote:On April 30 2012 12:10 McFeser wrote:On April 30 2012 12:07 Liquid`NonY wrote:On April 30 2012 12:01 Oreo7 wrote:On April 30 2012 10:18 holy_war wrote:On April 30 2012 10:15 Liquid`NonY wrote:
They make above average college grad salary Haha, thanks Tyler for that tidbit. Average college grad salary is above $50k so that makes sense fo the top players like IdrA and HuK. Fresh out of college avg. salary is more in the range of 20-40k. if you include the graduates that don't get job offers, yeah What we're you planning on doing with your degree, out of curiousity? law school You're going to law school? That's pretty intense; good for you! Any idea where you want to go for law school?
no i dont need to now that im making a living without
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On April 30 2012 12:40 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 12:35 Holytornados wrote:On April 30 2012 12:11 Liquid`NonY wrote:On April 30 2012 12:10 McFeser wrote:On April 30 2012 12:07 Liquid`NonY wrote:On April 30 2012 12:01 Oreo7 wrote:On April 30 2012 10:18 holy_war wrote:On April 30 2012 10:15 Liquid`NonY wrote:
They make above average college grad salary Haha, thanks Tyler for that tidbit. Average college grad salary is above $50k so that makes sense fo the top players like IdrA and HuK. Fresh out of college avg. salary is more in the range of 20-40k. if you include the graduates that don't get job offers, yeah What we're you planning on doing with your degree, out of curiousity? law school You're going to law school? That's pretty intense; good for you! Any idea where you want to go for law school? no i dont need to now that im making a living without
Ah I see. I missed the "were" you going to do.
I'd choose your way of making a living given the opportunity too=P
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On April 30 2012 12:40 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 12:35 Holytornados wrote:On April 30 2012 12:11 Liquid`NonY wrote:On April 30 2012 12:10 McFeser wrote:On April 30 2012 12:07 Liquid`NonY wrote:On April 30 2012 12:01 Oreo7 wrote:On April 30 2012 10:18 holy_war wrote:On April 30 2012 10:15 Liquid`NonY wrote:
They make above average college grad salary Haha, thanks Tyler for that tidbit. Average college grad salary is above $50k so that makes sense fo the top players like IdrA and HuK. Fresh out of college avg. salary is more in the range of 20-40k. if you include the graduates that don't get job offers, yeah What we're you planning on doing with your degree, out of curiousity? law school You're going to law school? That's pretty intense; good for you! Any idea where you want to go for law school? no i dont need to now that im making a living without
thats good future for you nony. I know lawyers need to be... chill.
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On April 30 2012 12:43 Holytornados wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 12:40 Liquid`NonY wrote:On April 30 2012 12:35 Holytornados wrote:On April 30 2012 12:11 Liquid`NonY wrote:On April 30 2012 12:10 McFeser wrote:On April 30 2012 12:07 Liquid`NonY wrote:On April 30 2012 12:01 Oreo7 wrote:On April 30 2012 10:18 holy_war wrote:On April 30 2012 10:15 Liquid`NonY wrote:
They make above average college grad salary Haha, thanks Tyler for that tidbit. Average college grad salary is above $50k so that makes sense fo the top players like IdrA and HuK. Fresh out of college avg. salary is more in the range of 20-40k. if you include the graduates that don't get job offers, yeah What we're you planning on doing with your degree, out of curiousity? law school You're going to law school? That's pretty intense; good for you! Any idea where you want to go for law school? no i dont need to now that im making a living without Ah I see. I missed the "were" you going to do.
that would've cost you a point on your LSAT!
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