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Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
March 09 2012 17:46 GMT
#41761
On March 09 2012 23:42 Rannasha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 11:29 itmeJP wrote:
On March 09 2012 10:52 Krejven wrote:
On March 09 2012 06:08 itmeJP wrote:
On March 07 2012 23:01 FunnyPicture wrote:
Pretty funny how JP shits on other tournaments. He talked down the GSL finals, by many considered top 3 finals ever. Furthermore, he didn't even want to adress Assembly, and let the others do all the talking about it. Hoping for more unbiased material in the future..


Alright, I'm sorry but I'm going to respond to this, even if it is a troll, because I'm fucking tired of comments like these.

First off, "shits on" other tournaments? What? I was shitting on the matches themselves, not the tournament. You're the one attaching it to and blaming the GSL for the poor matches (for some reason), I'm not. Go back and listen to the episode. I even stated the finals at the Arena were anti-climatic (or agreed with people who said that). Was I shitting on MLG, the company who employs me, by doing this? No.

Secondly, I am an MLG employee (trying) running a show while attempting to not show MLG bias -- not ideal, but hey, I manage. Nick and Dan obviously hype the matches they cast up because that that is their job -- they are paid to make the games exciting and do a very good job. The rest of the cast and a majority of other pro players / community figures both said the same thing: the GSL finals weren't all that exciting.

The reason we spent so much time on the MLG Arena is because I WAS THERE and can formulate a lot of questions / themes / storylines based on my experiences and watching the matches (as well as CatZ). The reason we didn't spend time on Assembly is because:

A) I didn't watch it at all because I WAS AT MLG

B) iNcontroL and Tyler didn't seem to watch that many games (not their fault, not blaming them, they're busy as shit too)

C) before you say GET SOMEONE WHO WAS THERE it is very hard to do so due to scheduling

There isn't enough time in the day for me to be able to watch the entire tournament, talk with people from the event, and formulate some interesting topics to talk about. So, instead of boring people about generic 'finals recap' I decided to focus on the biggest storyline to come out of the event: Stephano getting second in another huge tournament and is he the best foreigner at the moment.

Also, the reason I let "others do all the talking about it" is because I DIDN'T WATCH IT OR WAS NOT THERE. Why or how is that so hard to understand? I could give my thoughts on it but it would be uneducated, super generalized, and overall not worth saying. I'm sorry if you have a sense of Swedish patriotism in regards to the tournament and want us to discuss more about it in the future, but to be honest the MLG Arena was one of the most important events of 2012 thus far (more important than Assembly) because it was a test of something that had never been done.

If you don't believe me, go look at how much drama the PPV announcement stirred up. Keep in mind that I'm not trying to shit on Assembly what so ever -- it was an awesome event, so don't even start that -- but if you don't believe the Arena was more important, as a test, then I question your ability to think critically.

Looking outside this episode specifically, the reason we talk about MLG primarily (and the NA scene) on the show is because its what myself and the rest of the hosts are working with on a day-to-day basis. Due to the time zone difference, it is very hard to have a European on the show. In fact, prior to the show I asked Thorzain and Grubby to come on to talk about Assembly results (as well as MLG, obviously), but both were unable to attend due to last minute request.

"Well then plan better."

Sure, I can definitely do that, but the schedule at the moment of everyone on the show is very erratic. Anyways...

We do our best to cover the entire global scene and I personally will be trying harder in the future. Sorry for this rant, but I got ticked off and felt like I needed to say something, even if it was a troll, because I get this a ton in PMs with much harsher wording.


Hey hey, Sweden got nothing to do with this.

On a sidenote Assembly is in Finland not Sweden.

Well. Fuck. I'm from the US of A.


So that's like a province in Canada right?

Canada is in Asia, right?
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
BleaK_
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway593 Posts
March 09 2012 17:52 GMT
#41762
Love the show JP, don't let the troll bring you down! Keep being awsome!
Krejven
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden105 Posts
March 09 2012 17:53 GMT
#41763
On March 10 2012 02:46 Ercster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 23:42 Rannasha wrote:
On March 09 2012 11:29 itmeJP wrote:
On March 09 2012 10:52 Krejven wrote:
On March 09 2012 06:08 itmeJP wrote:
On March 07 2012 23:01 FunnyPicture wrote:
Pretty funny how JP shits on other tournaments. He talked down the GSL finals, by many considered top 3 finals ever. Furthermore, he didn't even want to adress Assembly, and let the others do all the talking about it. Hoping for more unbiased material in the future..


Alright, I'm sorry but I'm going to respond to this, even if it is a troll, because I'm fucking tired of comments like these.

First off, "shits on" other tournaments? What? I was shitting on the matches themselves, not the tournament. You're the one attaching it to and blaming the GSL for the poor matches (for some reason), I'm not. Go back and listen to the episode. I even stated the finals at the Arena were anti-climatic (or agreed with people who said that). Was I shitting on MLG, the company who employs me, by doing this? No.

Secondly, I am an MLG employee (trying) running a show while attempting to not show MLG bias -- not ideal, but hey, I manage. Nick and Dan obviously hype the matches they cast up because that that is their job -- they are paid to make the games exciting and do a very good job. The rest of the cast and a majority of other pro players / community figures both said the same thing: the GSL finals weren't all that exciting.

The reason we spent so much time on the MLG Arena is because I WAS THERE and can formulate a lot of questions / themes / storylines based on my experiences and watching the matches (as well as CatZ). The reason we didn't spend time on Assembly is because:

A) I didn't watch it at all because I WAS AT MLG

B) iNcontroL and Tyler didn't seem to watch that many games (not their fault, not blaming them, they're busy as shit too)

C) before you say GET SOMEONE WHO WAS THERE it is very hard to do so due to scheduling

There isn't enough time in the day for me to be able to watch the entire tournament, talk with people from the event, and formulate some interesting topics to talk about. So, instead of boring people about generic 'finals recap' I decided to focus on the biggest storyline to come out of the event: Stephano getting second in another huge tournament and is he the best foreigner at the moment.

Also, the reason I let "others do all the talking about it" is because I DIDN'T WATCH IT OR WAS NOT THERE. Why or how is that so hard to understand? I could give my thoughts on it but it would be uneducated, super generalized, and overall not worth saying. I'm sorry if you have a sense of Swedish patriotism in regards to the tournament and want us to discuss more about it in the future, but to be honest the MLG Arena was one of the most important events of 2012 thus far (more important than Assembly) because it was a test of something that had never been done.

If you don't believe me, go look at how much drama the PPV announcement stirred up. Keep in mind that I'm not trying to shit on Assembly what so ever -- it was an awesome event, so don't even start that -- but if you don't believe the Arena was more important, as a test, then I question your ability to think critically.

Looking outside this episode specifically, the reason we talk about MLG primarily (and the NA scene) on the show is because its what myself and the rest of the hosts are working with on a day-to-day basis. Due to the time zone difference, it is very hard to have a European on the show. In fact, prior to the show I asked Thorzain and Grubby to come on to talk about Assembly results (as well as MLG, obviously), but both were unable to attend due to last minute request.

"Well then plan better."

Sure, I can definitely do that, but the schedule at the moment of everyone on the show is very erratic. Anyways...

We do our best to cover the entire global scene and I personally will be trying harder in the future. Sorry for this rant, but I got ticked off and felt like I needed to say something, even if it was a troll, because I get this a ton in PMs with much harsher wording.


Hey hey, Sweden got nothing to do with this.

On a sidenote Assembly is in Finland not Sweden.

Well. Fuck. I'm from the US of A.


So that's like a province in Canada right?

Canada is in Asia, right?


Yepp just take right after you passed through Mexico and you are there.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
March 09 2012 18:02 GMT
#41764
I'm gonna echo the posters on the previous page

Show is epic, but it would be nice if it was a set/date time...I understand though that most people on SOTG are pretty high profile and don't have the ability to say "7pm EST on Saturday, time for State of the Game!" but that's my only complaint with the show...and it's not really a complaint so much as me whining that I miss half of the SOTGs haha.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Muffel
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany137 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 18:13:42
March 09 2012 18:12 GMT
#41765
Hey just finished to listen to the last episode of SOTG!
I think you realy should ignore all these haters/trolls who say you are not neutral enough. You tried as hard as possible to be neutral or even negative about MLG as possible and still they say you were shitting on other events. BULLSHIT. In my opinion you should say what you think and the things you cant say due to being an MLG employer you just leave out. Your opinion wont be neutral anymore but what? Incontrol isnt neutral about idra/EG issues. Tyler isnt neutral about TL things.
And Day9 never spoke negative about any event he casted at. Now some people might say you are the moderator and thats why you have to be as neutral as possible. Yes might be kinda true, but lets take an example of another great esportsshow: Live on Three. djwheat mostly stayed silent while the PPV discussion when sundance was there. there will never be a 100% neutral moderator. and thats absolutely okay! look at ITG the whole podcast is about beeing biased and still people listen to it :D

you just shouldnt think about it that much. and you dont have to say that you might be biased due to your job every time you begin a new topic ;D we know you work for them and its fine!

keep doing your awesome work (all together) ill keep watching it

@pipeline
i think its pretty much impossible to find someone important/interesting in esports who is not realy busy. day9 is one of the biggest person in esports/sc2 atm and should not be replaced imo. yes he is very busy and im realy sad everytime he isnt here but jp is doing a good job at finding replacements all the time.

interesting guests (from NA) would be:
kiwikaki!
axslav
ret (living in NA right now isnt he?)
gatored
trimaster (though now in KR mh?)
vibe

EU
as you already mentioned thorzain/grubby
feast
rotterdam
bling (!!!!)

KR
tod
sase

i think koreans arent optimal because with the translating issue its going very long and i thin ka written version of such interviews is always better. (just my thought)


whats the problem about missing an sotg liveshow? its as good if you watch it a day later or my favorite: cooking/driving/working/shitting and listening to it on your ipod!
Cox:"I suppose I could riff a list of things that I care as little about as our last week together. Lemme see, uhh [...] Oh! And Hugh Jackman." J.D.: Hugh Jackman's Wolverine! How dare he.
Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
March 09 2012 18:34 GMT
#41766
I just started to watch the latest SOTG and they just reminded me of the old Tyler-Incontrol shirt thing so I'm wondering did Tyler acftually end up wearing the shirt in some live event? And if so, are there any pics of him in the awesome purpe shirt that Incontrol picked for him?
cybertopo
Profile Joined February 2010
Spain525 Posts
March 09 2012 18:41 GMT
#41767
On March 10 2012 03:34 Kilby wrote:
I just started to watch the latest SOTG and they just reminded me of the old Tyler-Incontrol shirt thing so I'm wondering did Tyler acftually end up wearing the shirt in some live event? And if so, are there any pics of him in the awesome purpe shirt that Incontrol picked for him?


Step 1: Google: tyler incontrol shirt
Step 2: profit
Hurr Durr
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
March 09 2012 18:54 GMT
#41768
On March 10 2012 03:34 Kilby wrote:
I just started to watch the latest SOTG and they just reminded me of the old Tyler-Incontrol shirt thing so I'm wondering did Tyler acftually end up wearing the shirt in some live event? And if so, are there any pics of him in the awesome purpe shirt that Incontrol picked for him?


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From the void I am born into wave and particle
Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
March 09 2012 18:57 GMT
#41769
On March 10 2012 03:41 cybertopo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 03:34 Kilby wrote:
I just started to watch the latest SOTG and they just reminded me of the old Tyler-Incontrol shirt thing so I'm wondering did Tyler acftually end up wearing the shirt in some live event? And if so, are there any pics of him in the awesome purpe shirt that Incontrol picked for him?


Step 1: Google: tyler incontrol shirt
Step 2: profit


Didn't know it would be that easy. Lol that's pretty awesome. Poor Tyler.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
March 09 2012 19:09 GMT
#41770
I'm keeping it safe too because I know in my heart that there will be a time in my life when it will be appropriate to don it again.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 09 2012 19:09 GMT
#41771
HEY GUYS I'D LIKE TO SAY I WANT ALL THESE GUESTS:
GOD
MARTIN LUTHER LING AND MOTHER T

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME ZONE THEY ARE IN OR WHATEVER BUT AT LEAST THEY'D BE UNBIASED
battyone
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States180 Posts
March 09 2012 19:10 GMT
#41772
On March 10 2012 04:09 Liquid`NonY wrote:
I'm keeping it safe too because I know in my heart that there will be a time in my life when it will be appropriate to don it again.


0.o That shirt doesn't need a time or place, it's always appropriate!
Let's Go Mets!
Lavit2099
Profile Joined November 2011
United States390 Posts
March 09 2012 19:13 GMT
#41773
On March 10 2012 04:09 iNcontroL wrote:
HEY GUYS I'D LIKE TO SAY I WANT ALL THESE GUESTS:
GOD
MARTIN LUTHER LING AND MOTHER T

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME ZONE THEY ARE IN OR WHATEVER BUT AT LEAST THEY'D BE UNBIASED


I lol'd
Venomsflame
Profile Joined February 2011
United States613 Posts
March 09 2012 19:16 GMT
#41774
On March 10 2012 04:09 iNcontroL wrote:
HEY GUYS I'D LIKE TO SAY I WANT ALL THESE GUESTS:
GOD
MARTIN LUTHER LING AND MOTHER T

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME ZONE THEY ARE IN OR WHATEVER BUT AT LEAST THEY'D BE UNBIASED


That would be awesome but Mother T doesn't like war games
befek
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland413 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 19:27:18
March 09 2012 19:22 GMT
#41775
Hey I have request: May SOTG do not mention orb drama at all? It has been said many times - we need to stop creating drama out of every little shit that happens. It does not help us and average fan does not give a fuck about it.
Dan "Artosis" Stark: Roaches are coming, Game of Drones begins!
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
March 09 2012 19:25 GMT
#41776
On March 10 2012 04:22 befek wrote:
Hey I have request: May SOTG do not mention orb drama at all? It has been said many times - we need to stop creating drama out of every little shit that happens. It does not help us and average fan does not give fuck about it.


I actually agree. I think it's best if they touch upon it for like, 5 mins and then move on or something..this whole thing has been beaten to death many times already.
Lavit2099
Profile Joined November 2011
United States390 Posts
March 09 2012 19:27 GMT
#41777
Or be along the lines of "it happened, go read about it if you care. Now moving on..."
MarcH
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom362 Posts
March 09 2012 19:47 GMT
#41778
On March 10 2012 04:25 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 04:22 befek wrote:
Hey I have request: May SOTG do not mention orb drama at all? It has been said many times - we need to stop creating drama out of every little shit that happens. It does not help us and average fan does not give fuck about it.


I actually agree. I think it's best if they touch upon it for like, 5 mins and then move on or something..this whole thing has been beaten to death many times already.



I think mentioning it briefly is best but not dwelling on the issue as it could very easily become overblown. However I think completely ignoring it is not a good Idea as a lot of people have had a poor response to the issue in a couple of TL threads etc and ignoring it will only worsen things in that regard.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
March 09 2012 19:49 GMT
#41779
On March 10 2012 04:09 iNcontroL wrote:
HEY GUYS I'D LIKE TO SAY I WANT ALL THESE GUESTS:
GOD
MARTIN LUTHER LING AND MOTHER T

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME ZONE THEY ARE IN OR WHATEVER BUT AT LEAST THEY'D BE UNBIASED


Please tell me you actually meant to write "Ling" and not "King" that would make it even more epic.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
March 09 2012 20:05 GMT
#41780
I loved the episodes with destiny, bring him back sometime :D
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
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