EPTOfficial State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 2075
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ArcLiTe
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windzor
Denmark1013 Posts
On March 04 2012 23:28 ArcLiTe wrote: JP&co. I hope you guys comment on how Genius was brave enough to use carriers on a GSL final. As artosis had put it after the game, he was quite happy at what Genius was trying to do - I dont know what he meant by that to be honest. I thought it was just ridiculous, to my limited knowledge carriers had never been able to win any GSL game. What Genius had done was to autolose. Genius has won several games with carriers in GSL. Think there even was one last season. | ||
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ArcLiTe
62 Posts
On March 04 2012 23:31 windzor wrote: Genius has won several games with carriers in GSL. Think there even was one last season. Did he really win the game because of the carriers? Or he was already clearly winning at that point when he made them? | ||
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2598 Posts
On March 04 2012 22:54 Chriscras wrote: Also request for djWHEAT as guest PLEEEEEEEEEASE. He'll be on again in December for the year in review episode. Hold your horses. | ||
TemujinGK
United States483 Posts
On March 04 2012 23:35 ArcLiTe wrote: Did he really win the game because of the carriers? Or he was already clearly winning at that point when he made them? Late game carrier transition is very viable v. Zerg. That being said I think HongUn.Prime is also pretty known for carrier play in the GSL. I only mention him because other than Genius HongUn might be the only player to have secured a win by starting with a carrier build. <3 genius for trying it though, it is bullshit that they are taking it out in HotS | ||
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Cereb
Denmark3388 Posts
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Aeceus
United Kingdom1278 Posts
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On March 04 2012 23:31 windzor wrote: Genius has won several games with carriers in GSL. Think there even was one last season. What? I must have missed them. I don't recall any wins with Carriers in GSL history. Care to give the specific match? Anyway, for that game, as far I could tell, Genius was just going "Hey, Phoenix deny scouting and it's easy to turtle on three bases here so I hope I can get enough Carriers to go kill him before he finds out what's going on!!" Turns out that didn't happen. DRG knew he was doing something weird (large investment into StarGate [likely saw +1 as well if he clicked on the units] without doing much) and having to rely on staying hidden in his base with cannons and Sentries - what's good against that? Oh, drops. Bam, dead. I mean, it's not a stupid cheese (and yes, despite being on three bases, it's cheese: it relies entirely on your opponent not scouting/guessing what you're doing and if they do you auto-lose thanks to easy hard counters) but it's not overly amazing either. | ||
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Champloo
Germany1850 Posts
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kochanfe
Micronesia1338 Posts
On March 05 2012 01:05 Champloo wrote: HasuObs uses carriers in pvz lategame quite often and it seems to work. Ummm... is HasuObs in GSL... ? Spoiler: No | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
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Champloo
Germany1850 Posts
Is the metagame in GSL and the foreign scene them same? Hint: Yes. | ||
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Vari
United States532 Posts
On March 05 2012 00:46 FuzzyJAM wrote: What? I must have missed them. I don't recall any wins with Carriers in GSL history. Care to give the specific match? there is a pvt where carriers were used to win, maybe open gsl season 3 or something there may be more recent games, more applicable games, but you said 'any in gsl history', and I know for a fact there is that one. | ||
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
On March 05 2012 01:19 Champloo wrote: Is the metagame in GSL and the foreign scene them same? Hint: Yes. Is the level of play in GSL and foreign scene the same? Hint: No This is fairly entertaining | ||
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2598 Posts
On March 05 2012 01:19 Champloo wrote: Is the metagame in GSL and the foreign scene them same? Hint: Yes. That's a pretty misleading hint. It might lead an uninformed reader to think that the set of all viable strategies at the top of the European ladder is identical to the set of all viable strategies in GSL Code S, which is such a ridiculous idea that I know it's surely not what you meant. | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On March 05 2012 01:20 Vari wrote: there is a pvt where carriers were used to win, maybe open gsl season 3 or something there may be more recent games, more applicable games, but you said 'any in gsl history', and I know for a fact there is that one. Hm. Don't recall that game, but then there have been thousands. I'd still like to know any recent and relevant ones so I could look into them. I really think Carriers are such an investment and so easily hard countered that they're a pointless unit as of now. Maybe with changes they could be good, but sadly Blizzard looks to remove them rather than improve them. | ||
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kju
6143 Posts
On March 05 2012 00:36 Aeceus wrote: Can't wait for SOTG but no day9 again I assume? :/ no artosis and no day9 : ( http://www.teamliquid.net/calendar/2012/03/#event_8931 | ||
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corpuscle
United States1967 Posts
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Talionis
Scotland4085 Posts
On March 05 2012 00:46 FuzzyJAM wrote: What? I must have missed them. I don't recall any wins with Carriers in GSL history. Care to give the specific match? Anyway, for that game, as far I could tell, Genius was just going "Hey, Phoenix deny scouting and it's easy to turtle on three bases here so I hope I can get enough Carriers to go kill him before he finds out what's going on!!" Turns out that didn't happen. DRG knew he was doing something weird (large investment into StarGate [likely saw +1 as well if he clicked on the units] without doing much) and having to rely on staying hidden in his base with cannons and Sentries - what's good against that? Oh, drops. Bam, dead. I mean, it's not a stupid cheese (and yes, despite being on three bases, it's cheese: it relies entirely on your opponent not scouting/guessing what you're doing and if they do you auto-lose thanks to easy hard counters) but it's not overly amazing either. Last season's code A, Genius vs Symbol on Calm Before the Storm http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors7/vod/66530 Very similar build to the one used against DRG. Bit of an odd game though. | ||
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
On March 05 2012 01:44 corpuscle wrote: If the event listing is subtly hinting that Nestea is gonna be on, I will actually cream my pants. Or demuslim since he's british and they drink tea | ||
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