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gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
February 22 2012 05:01 GMT
#41181
On February 22 2012 13:58 garbodor wrote:
I don't understand the comparison between MLG and UFC
like


does he understand that people will pay for UFC fights because there aren't dozens of other MMA events running simultaneously?

He used that as an example to lead into the ~10 % conversion rate of paying customers. He said they had look at others as well. Think what you will of MLG they aren't dumb.
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
February 22 2012 05:02 GMT
#41182
On February 22 2012 14:00 ELA wrote:
Heh.. MLG Adam dosn't know his own products... They do _not_ sell Gold online, you _cannot_ buy it


no he said they are selling it online for a limited time, so they can rework the products.
Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
February 22 2012 05:02 GMT
#41183
On February 22 2012 14:00 ELA wrote:
Heh.. MLG Adam dosn't know his own products... They do _not_ sell Gold online, you _cannot_ buy it

They didn't until maybe last week.

(Stream just went down here?)
Xkalibert
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1404 Posts
February 22 2012 05:02 GMT
#41184
did Jorge just kill SOTG?
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
February 22 2012 05:02 GMT
#41185
Did the stream die for anyone else?
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
February 22 2012 05:02 GMT
#41186
They aren't exactly business moguls either, let's be fair.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
February 22 2012 05:02 GMT
#41187
T_T Damnit Jorge!
Nausea
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden807 Posts
February 22 2012 05:03 GMT
#41188
yep. stream died
Set it ablaze!
Vehemus
Profile Joined November 2010
United States586 Posts
February 22 2012 05:03 GMT
#41189
On February 22 2012 14:00 ELA wrote:
Heh.. MLG Adam dosn't know his own products... They do _not_ sell Gold online, you _cannot_ buy it


http://store.majorleaguegaming.com/products/mlg-gold-12-Month-League-Membership-1111

That doesn't work?

Note I'm not actually going to try to purchase it because I already have it.
This space for rent.
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
February 22 2012 05:03 GMT
#41190
On February 22 2012 14:01 gruff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 13:58 garbodor wrote:
I don't understand the comparison between MLG and UFC
like


does he understand that people will pay for UFC fights because there aren't dozens of other MMA events running simultaneously?

He used that as an example to lead into the ~10 % conversion rate of paying customers. He said they had look at others as well. Think what you will of MLG they aren't dumb.


i dont like plans that intentionally plan on throwing away their customer base.
-

Can anyone explain two things to me?

1. Are the regular events in addition to the arenas only going to be filled with players winning the arenas?
2. where do the open brackets fit in?
Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
February 22 2012 05:03 GMT
#41191
On February 22 2012 14:02 Thrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 14:00 ELA wrote:
Heh.. MLG Adam dosn't know his own products... They do _not_ sell Gold online, you _cannot_ buy it

They didn't until maybe last week.

(Stream just went down here?)


yea they only just brought it back for a little bit

http://store.majorleaguegaming.com/products/mlg-gold-12-Month-League-Membership-1111

you can buy it right there
Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
February 22 2012 05:04 GMT
#41192
On February 22 2012 14:03 Angel_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 14:01 gruff wrote:
On February 22 2012 13:58 garbodor wrote:
I don't understand the comparison between MLG and UFC
like


does he understand that people will pay for UFC fights because there aren't dozens of other MMA events running simultaneously?

He used that as an example to lead into the ~10 % conversion rate of paying customers. He said they had look at others as well. Think what you will of MLG they aren't dumb.


i dont like plans that intentionally plan on throwing away their customer base.
-

Can anyone explain two things to me?

1. Are the regular events in addition to the arenas only going to be filled with players winning the arenas?
2. where do the open brackets fit in?


No, the top 8 i believe in the arena (or maybe 16) get seeded into the championship bracket + the next 8 get seeded into the open bracket winners (or something like that). Open bracket is still as it was before.

If anything I like this better than just basing it off of previous performance where we get really crappy players staying in forever.
ulan-bat
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
China403 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 05:05:54
February 22 2012 05:05 GMT
#41193
I feel like saying "we looked at other PPV services, they get 10% of their audience, so we expected the same" is a bit short-sighted. Doesn't the price come into the decision anywhere?
How many people said they'd buy it if it was cheaper?

The point is, you can't define what a PPV will get in terms of audience without looking at the pricing and the competition (as someone said above).
"Short games, shorts, summer weather, those things bring the heat!" - EG.iNcontroL
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
February 22 2012 05:05 GMT
#41194
Why do the mods turn off the chat in situations like this? The initial wave of spam already kicked in, and with slow mode it was already slowing down. >
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
February 22 2012 05:05 GMT
#41195
yay for the stream dying!
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
February 22 2012 05:05 GMT
#41196
stream dead for anyone else?
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
February 22 2012 05:05 GMT
#41197
On February 22 2012 14:04 Lunares wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 14:03 Angel_ wrote:
On February 22 2012 14:01 gruff wrote:
On February 22 2012 13:58 garbodor wrote:
I don't understand the comparison between MLG and UFC
like


does he understand that people will pay for UFC fights because there aren't dozens of other MMA events running simultaneously?

He used that as an example to lead into the ~10 % conversion rate of paying customers. He said they had look at others as well. Think what you will of MLG they aren't dumb.


i dont like plans that intentionally plan on throwing away their customer base.
-

Can anyone explain two things to me?

1. Are the regular events in addition to the arenas only going to be filled with players winning the arenas?
2. where do the open brackets fit in?


No, the top 8 i believe in the arena (or maybe 16) get seeded into the championship bracket + the next 8 get seeded into the open bracket winners (or something like that). Open bracket is still as it was before.

If anything I like this better than just basing it off of previous performance where we get really crappy players staying in forever.



I'm not talking about the championship at the end of the arenas.

I'm asking about the other MLG events during the year that arent the arenas.
integrity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1014 Posts
February 22 2012 05:06 GMT
#41198
i like how when geoff is about to make an interesting statement the show died
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
February 22 2012 05:07 GMT
#41199
Stream down!
strava.com/athletes/zhaodynasty
Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
February 22 2012 05:07 GMT
#41200
On February 22 2012 14:05 Angel_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 14:04 Lunares wrote:
On February 22 2012 14:03 Angel_ wrote:
On February 22 2012 14:01 gruff wrote:
On February 22 2012 13:58 garbodor wrote:
I don't understand the comparison between MLG and UFC
like


does he understand that people will pay for UFC fights because there aren't dozens of other MMA events running simultaneously?

He used that as an example to lead into the ~10 % conversion rate of paying customers. He said they had look at others as well. Think what you will of MLG they aren't dumb.


i dont like plans that intentionally plan on throwing away their customer base.
-

Can anyone explain two things to me?

1. Are the regular events in addition to the arenas only going to be filled with players winning the arenas?
2. where do the open brackets fit in?


No, the top 8 i believe in the arena (or maybe 16) get seeded into the championship bracket + the next 8 get seeded into the open bracket winners (or something like that). Open bracket is still as it was before.

If anything I like this better than just basing it off of previous performance where we get really crappy players staying in forever.



I'm not talking about the championship at the end of the arenas.

I'm asking about the other MLG events during the year that arent the arenas.


Currently there aren't any other MLG events that aren't championships, arenas, or online qualifiers. However there are now 4 championships a year instead of just 1. However they are probably going to be changing this up as it goes. The winter "championship" is the next championship event (or any event) after the arena. Spring is unknown.
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