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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 07 2011 06:28 GMT
#36961
On December 07 2011 15:22 nvrs wrote:
So Artosis is now trying to convince us that tanks are good in TvP?
ROFL


ROFL what are you going to say when eventually a terran like artosis says actually gets a mech build and wins with it? Will you still be ROFL'ing over it?

I agree with artosis, it will be insanely hard to optimize it especially with how tvp is played with bio. It would result in a bunch of losses to players you normally beat easily. But in the long run you could be the one who popularizes mech. I can't wait for a terran player to do it from korea.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Moonling
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States987 Posts
December 07 2011 06:28 GMT
#36962
On December 07 2011 15:27 Sarang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 15:22 nvrs wrote:
So Artosis is now trying to convince us that tanks are good in TvP?
ROFL


reminds me of the whole mech in TvT thing. xD

(paraphrased) Artosis: "Mech is the future of TvT, you MUST go mech!"
Mvp: "You don't really have to go mech."


Artosis said the same thing as MvP; you don't have to go mech bc MMM is so much easier and you can win with it why develop a mech style when T has a great winrate vs P.
1% of koreans control 99% of starcraft winnings. #occupykorea.
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
December 07 2011 06:29 GMT
#36963
incontrol just pulled the idiot argument

"IF PROS DONT DO IT, IT SUCKS"

lol...
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
December 07 2011 06:30 GMT
#36964
Artosis looks about ready to punch Geoff in the face.
Skol
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 06:31:52
December 07 2011 06:30 GMT
#36965
I'm so glad Day9 brought up warpin. Because that's the reason mech doesn't work TvP. The way you counter those banshees is you lose your first army killing the tanks/thors/hellions. Then you take 5s to warp in 20 stalkers and kill all the air units.

And the thing is, you do trade effectively because you just trade zealots for tanks like all day. And eventually there aren't enough tanks.

Plus, maps are sooooo open these days and there just aren't enough ways for terran to control space. So zealots just crush shit.
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
December 07 2011 06:30 GMT
#36966
Artosis is saying Goody is an underappreciated genius who's way ahead of everyone else
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
December 07 2011 06:31 GMT
#36967
Im scared were gonna have a blow out real soon....
Skol
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
December 07 2011 06:32 GMT
#36968
Is Tyler gone or just chilling behind Mr. Freeze?
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
tangwhat
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand446 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 06:32:34
December 07 2011 06:32 GMT
#36969
its cool that incontrol is an overgrown baby with poor critical thinking skills
_Mittens
Profile Joined November 2010
United States168 Posts
December 07 2011 06:32 GMT
#36970
AAAAAND incontrol just pulled the "I'm a progamer and you (Artosis and Day9) aren't."


...the fuck?
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
December 07 2011 06:32 GMT
#36971
So what did that skype chat that popped on screen for a second say? Anyone get a chance to screenshot it
CEPEHDREI
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1521 Posts
December 07 2011 06:32 GMT
#36972
On December 07 2011 15:32 _Mittens wrote:
AAAAAND incontrol just pulled the "I'm a progamer and you (Artosis and Day9) aren't."


...the fuck?


yeah classic incontrol
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
December 07 2011 06:32 GMT
#36973
On December 07 2011 15:28 Moonling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 15:27 Sarang wrote:
On December 07 2011 15:22 nvrs wrote:
So Artosis is now trying to convince us that tanks are good in TvP?
ROFL


reminds me of the whole mech in TvT thing. xD

(paraphrased) Artosis: "Mech is the future of TvT, you MUST go mech!"
Mvp: "You don't really have to go mech."


Artosis said the same thing as MvP; you don't have to go mech bc MMM is so much easier and you can win with it why develop a mech style when T has a great winrate vs P.


i'm talking about TvT, not TvP

artosis says that mech is the best in TvT, but Mvp disagrees and says both bio and mech are fine because they both transition to sky terran.
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
spacek
Profile Joined June 2010
United States213 Posts
December 07 2011 06:33 GMT
#36974
not really a fan of incontrol getting pissy because he's getting disagreed with..
yaya
Galleon.frigate
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada721 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 06:47:07
December 07 2011 06:33 GMT
#36975
Ok what is happening right now .... THIS IS WHAT STAET OF THE GAME IS ABOUT !!!!



SO --------- ARTOSIS DAY9 AND INCONTROL aruging about mech is fucking what the show is about


fuck that recap of games, and nasl and whatever... JP YOU NEED TO HAVE A SEGMENT OF THAT KIND PER SHOW PLEASE!!!!
VanGarde
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden755 Posts
December 07 2011 06:33 GMT
#36976
I really love that we are having a strategy discussion on state of the game finally, I find this really interesting. Incontrol though seriously, shut the fuck up. He is basically trolling the discussion away from how mech could be done into a question of who wins the argument or not. Get the fuck over yourself, every discussion is not an argument you need to win...
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
December 07 2011 06:33 GMT
#36977
Geoff is getting a little too emotional, but I think he's right. Artosis' argument is completely hypothetical
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
December 07 2011 06:33 GMT
#36978
i mech in tvp at a decent level... what email does day9 want the reps sent to?
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
December 07 2011 06:33 GMT
#36979
they need goody, avilo or jinro to talk about mech tvp
dapierow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Serbia1316 Posts
December 07 2011 06:34 GMT
#36980
Thats pretty stupid what artosis is saying
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